During its latest earnings briefing, Electronic Arts revealed that Respawn is currently focusing on porting Star Wars: Jedi Survivor to old-gen consoles instead of improving its performance and optimization on current-gen platforms. Yeap, instead of fixing and improving the current-gen version, Respawn has decided to milk the cow as much as possible.
This basically confirms what we all originally thought. Star Wars: Jedi Survivor was always a cross-gen game, and not a title that could take advantage of current-gen platforms.
At this point, the gaming media should also start criticizing developers and executives that blatantly lie. Prior to the game’s release, director Stig Asmussen claimed that the game was only possible on current-gen platforms. As Asmussen stated in February 2023.
“Bottom line, we learned quickly that we could take advantage of the faster processors, larger/faster memory, better loading times, etc, to create much larger maps, with more detail, greater density, broader enemy/NPC variety, and overall fidelity.
We didn’t want to break what we did in the first game because it was well received, but we wanted to evolve/enhance the experience. This new generation allowed us to do exactly that, and I believe it translates to a true new-gen experience in the Star Wars universe.”
And yet, despite those claims, here we are with Respawn focusing on porting the game to old-gen consoles. I guess now that the game has completed its “current-gen sales” cycle, it’s possible to port it to old-gen. But hey, do you really expect the media to hold accountable all those execs that lie in front of their faces and during interviews? Of course and they won’t.
Ironically, Star Wars: Jedi Survivor is still a mess on PS5, Xbox Series X and PC. And while PC gamers can brute force their way, PS5 and Xbox Series X owners are still stuck with major framerate drops and really low resolutions.
Want to read something even funnier? The game STILL crashes on Jedha when using Ray Tracing on PC. And although a modder was able to fix it in June 2023, a triple-A studio has not been able to provide an official fix after almost two months.
The last performance patch that Respawn released for Star Wars: Jedi Survivor was in May 2023. After that, the company has been simply fixing bugs and glitches, without providing any additional optimization tweaks. And yes, the game still has stuttering issues, and it still doesn’t officially support DLSS 2.
In short, I don’t expect Respawn to ever address the performance issues of Star Wars: Jedi Survivor on current-gen platforms. My guess is that the team will offer an option to disable the Ray Tracing effects on PS5/Xbox Series X as a means of “optimization“. And that may be the end of Respawn’s attempts to further improve the game’s performance.
And that is that. Gamers should be voting with their wallets, plain and simple. And, since the game sold well, I guess PC and console gamers deserve the way they were treated!
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“Gamers should be voting with their wallets, plain and simple. And, since the game sold well, I guess PC and console gamers deserve the way they were treated!”
That is the only way that Publishers will ever learn. They only understand money. Don’t buy a game on release. Wait until the Developer actually patches and polishes the game before buying it and playing it. If the majority did that then Publishers would quickly learn the lesson that treating their customers paying full price on release as if they were beta testers is a bad idea and a lot of this foolishness would go away.
Being able to return a game these days doesn’t change anything. I will give a major example of this. Cyberpunk 2077 had over 8 million pre-orders. On release the game had issues on PC and was a disaster on consoles. It was so bad on PS that Sony pulled the game from their store until it was at least partially fixed. Months later CDPR put in their Financial Statement that only 30,000 of the 8 million pre-orders were returned for a refund.
maybe, but shifting the blame to the user who trusted you is not the solution. How to say that if someone scams you it’s your fault that you weren’t careful…
OK that with EA it was more predictable than usual, but not everyone has to play the historian, and anyway, if you really have to shift the blame, the second suspect is the reviewer who minimizes the defects, indeed transforms them into merits, even giving them a good mark. Give it 5-6, then see how many users are looking for problems…
I see the example of CP-2070… What grades did it get?
Do you do slabs in every sector where you don’t have to be expert?
Or do you immediately blame the source from there, and who is fattened by it? Rhetoric…
There is plenty of blame to go around for the mostly pitiful state of AAA gaming today.
The Publishers rushing games out the door when they aren’t ready for release and making gamers paying full price become beta testers.
Developers sometimes doing lazy things and squandering hardware resources with lazy coding and failing to optimize where they can and worst of all their hiring priorities. Hiring for diversity has become more important than hiring for talent and experience.
Major game site reviewers that mislead gamers with poor reviewing and dishonesty.
Gamers that buy games on release before a game gets patched and polished and then pop up with comments about how bad the game runs and putting all of the blame on the Publisher/Developer and turn right around and buy the next big AAA game on release. How many times do gamers need to be scr*wed by the likes of EA before they learn to wait? They don’t need to be historians. They just need to have some patience and self control in buying. The ancient Romans said it best: “Caveat Emptor”…..let the buyer beware.
If the buyer is to recall the last bad experience, some history is implied. There are users who complain but still play, I really don’t think CP-2077 has had millions of claims, otherwise it would have become a much bigger case than it already was.
The first speech remains valid, the fact that it is better to protect the back is a secondary matter. The fan of the masses will continue to play the same, maybe he won’t even notice that much of the problems, especially if he sees reviews that don’t underline them.
C*m grano salis is valid in all cases, but this does not make it more correct to try to deceive users, whether they are direct buyers or followers of a portal. I wanted to say this.
On the rest, it is unlikely to expect rationally wise reasoning from the masses, they will continue to be guided by those who lead the masses, as happens in the rest of the fields.
I don’t know many fields like I know this (and computer science in general), but that doesn’t mean I have to get a degree in everything to avoid any scams, which is impossible.
In ancient Rome there were no laws in favor of consumers, that saying is relative to the historical period, it remains good in general, but the context has changed a lot.
As in all cultures, there are sayings that annihilate each other (I’m Italian, I know Roman sayings pretty well).
On those who insist despite bad experiences (who still play without asking for a refund, and this does not mean that the host cannot complain), I would recall this:
Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret
On looking too much for the defects and voluptuousness of the mass that buys instinctively, I would remind you of this:
Aliena vitia in oculis habemus, a verso nostra sunt
Greetings
perhaps the reason they are porting it on last gen consoles is because they found a way to make it run better. But year good game, messed up perfomance.
It will run like sh*t. It will be a strip down version of the current game in lower resolution.
It’s an EA studio. What did you expect?
Once they fail, they’ll shut down the studio.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/b0L0WqA8cUpQ4/giphy-downsized-small.mp4
EA in nutshell
Who pays what for what? I for sure don’t lol.
Gaming companies focusing on making more money instead of improving the performance of their games
we vote with our wallets yes… but there is no power against a multi million marketing campaign and payed influencers
Not true, both Battlefield 5 and BF2042 failed to meet sales expectations. The former was turbo woke and they finger wagged at critics of said wokeness, the latter was turbo unfinished + broken.
https://archive.li/yrxwU
https://web.archive.org/web/20220202144854/https://gamerant.com/ea-didnt-report-battlefield-2042-sales-numbers-investor-meeting/
Hahaha! Stonks wars
Based on the title and some of the article’s wording, it seems to me that you’re placing a lot of the blame on Respawn and not EA, which is a tad unfair IMO. You have to remember that the developers are essentially at the mercy of the publishers, i.e. EA’s the one providing funding to Respawn. The out-of-touch (((suits))) that sit as the board of directors just dictate whatever that they think is a good idea to the CEO of the publishing house, who then pass down the orders that eventually make its way to the developers who then have no choice but to follow. All these directors see are numbers, so in a case like this their thought process was likely something like this: “There are over 100 million consoles for which this game isn’t released on, so make the devs port it to those for additional profits!” These clueless buttheads couldn’t care less about how difficult the tasks are, or it looks and runs, they just want money. They’re a serious blight in the gaming industry and have got to go.
Sorry but all it takes is one single look at Respawn’s Twitter account to see they have zero respect for the Star Wars fanbase. All they do is post about Apex Legends and the only community they give feedback and updates to is Apex Legends. They literally retweeted EA’s post about Jedi Survivor when it launched. They haven’t made a single post about it themselves nor have they replied to a single fan criticism. Respawn is trash and deserves a huge amount of the blame.
titanfall is optimized because its made on source engine, this makes me think respawn dont know to code anything right
Got this for free with my processor but it’s in my backlog probably ’til year’s end. Enjoyed the first one despite how it hitched like crazy. I just don’t think Respawn has the talent to get it running well. The game is still supposedly good, it just will never be great. Looking forward to seeing how much of a mess it will be on last gen when that version lands.
LOOOOLLLLL
https://www.respawn.com/careers/quality-designer-4
Looks like decent salary and benefits, however if it’s 100 hours per week then umm nope.
And this….”We put creativity and inclusivity at the core of our work ”
Useless buzzwords but yet a red flag.
If you’re still buying video games these days, without giving them time to be properly finished and fixed? Well, that’s your problem.
You’re also the reason the industry sucks as hard as it does these days. Mindless, impatient, impulsive. Modern industry loves people like you.
Wouldn’t the optimization required to run it on last gen, help its performance on current gen?
And in later news frame generation will be used to make even sloppier products without any optimization whatsoever.
Kind of sad to see how many generations of hardware advances just getting squandered by devs/pubs who don’t bother do a proper work… Simply put, they want us to pay more than was what should be needed for the hardware… and while at it often pay more for the games with MT’s and what not. So, they want us to pay in both ends… for them to push more money to the bottom line.
While i dislike piracy – At the speed of products been going downhill due to corp greed I’m not surprised if it picks up pace, who want to pay more and more for less?
“And that is that. Gamers should be voting with their wallets, plain and simple.”
Oh they’re voting all right. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/badb09f59055c62bbb68d0b0b1efe67539c830e3fe6158a8c35ba679bc3fa82d.jpg
Such a sad state of the industry.
Sadly nothig new. It’s common practice and these gready f*ks gets away with it!
Totaly disguting. But hey as that Clown r**ard Jim Ryan from Sony – He lies everything he says..Oh man what a sh**ty buisness!
Is funny how naïve this article is, they cannot release the game on previous generation without optimization, so is part of the process.
So no, they not focused on making more money over optimization, if anything people been asking for a release on previous generation since day one.
“Gamers should be voting with their wallets”
That’s exactly what I’m doing John, I’m waiting for that EMPRESS troon to do his sh*t. And hopefully fast, because the troon will play Stardust and I assume he wont be cracking while playing that longa$$ game. EMPTROON. into you wagie cagie. now!
How about buying and playing great indie games instead of waiting for sh**ty AAA games getting pirated?
I’m playing indie games don’t worry. but this new Jedi series is my guilty pleasure. It’s really really good
I do not see a plain lie in the cited quote, them doing some porting to weaker hardware after the game released does not make it a lie.
I do see reading between the lines some kind of excuse stating, we are not incompetent we know how to use the new hardware.
This could be the lie since the game runs badly in the newest console hardware.
I still want to like Jedi Survivor and play it on my PC, but it was definitely released before it had time to finish baking in the oven, so to speak. Even my new computer struggles to run it when it plays cyberpunk 2077 just fine.
On a cautiously optimistic note, if they can optimize the game to run on weaker hardware, it should make the game more playable for everyone. I don’t understand why the project didn’t do that in the first place and perhaps I never will.
For what it’s worth, I’m confident the devs are just as frustrated as the rest of us. Imagine working on a new game for several years, only to ship it before it’s ready and then take flak for a decision that you advised against. I am neither an insider or a shill; I’m just a independent software developer.
I still haven’t purchased the game on pc as development is not complete. Simple.
Wait for the premiere of Starfield 🙂
That’s only part of his “cash-in-on-Star-Wars” mission. They are aiming at making more money off the shady side of the genre, namely the smugglers.
So what did we see in the last title? Embrace the darkness. Use a blaster it’s mo betta. Screw scruples and everything you’ve held dear for so long and lie, cheat, and steal with the rest of ’em. Good guys ain’t no fun, no.
They used this last ‘the Jedi Order falleth’ bit as a segue into the world of Han Solo, just watch.
Yay, another “edgy journalist”.
The writer of this article is slightly mistaken about the games performance on modern day systems. The issues Jedi Survivor has been having since it’s launch only affected systems with Nvidia graphics cards in them. My PC has an AMD 5800X CPU and a XFX 6900XT Zero WB GPU. So, it’s an AMD System and it runs the game at an average of 119 fps with freesync ultimate and in 4K (3840×2160) resolution with no performance issues. Search YouTube because there’s tons of videos from others with performance similar to my system. But, guys with Nvidia graphics cards are seeing frame times of 40 -50fps @1080P and even worse in 4K.
Did you really expect a stutter-free quality game? All you clowns gave the first game great reviews and they never even fixed the stuttering in that game.
The writer of this article is slightly mistaken about the games performance on modern day systems. The issues Jedi Survivor has been having since it’s launch only affected systems with Nvidia graphics cards in them. My PC has an AMD 5800X CPU and a XFX 6900XT Zero WB GPU. So, it’s an AMD System and it runs the game at an average of 119 fps with freesync ultimate and in 4K (3840×2160) resolution with no performance issues. Search YouTube because there’s tons of videos from others with performance similar to my system. But, guys with Nvidia graphics cards are seeing frame times of 40 -50fps @1080P and worse in 4K.
respawn decided?….I’m not certain they were given a choice in the matter. as we know they work for the overlords known as those who destroy companies…ea’s inept management would put a wh*re house in a major port outta business