Well, you gotta love Rockstar. While GTA V will be released in two days, some interesting new information arose. What’s also amazing is that the earlier rumors surrounding Rockstar’s open world title were legit all along. Not only that, but it’s made clear that Rockstar did not need PC gamers to show interest for GTA V as it had plans for a PC version from the get-go, something that basically contradicts the company’s earlier statements/stance.
In an interview with PCGamer, Rockstar claimed that it was always going to bring GTA 5 to PC.
“We planned from day 1 for a PC build and we made technical decisions based off the fact that we would be doing a PC version of the game. While we started development of the PC version quite early, we decided to focus the bulk of our attention on the PS3 and XB360 versions first in order to push that as far as we possibly could.”
Now this is really interesting, because it clearly shows that Rockstar played PC gamers for fools. Back in October 2012, Rockstar claimed that it had no plans for a PC version of GTA V.
“For those asking about the PC platform, we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
Not only that, but in November 2012, Rockstar’s Vice President, Dan Houser, told IGN that the PC and WiiU versions of GTA V are up for consideration.
Up for consideration? Really now? When the team was already working on the PC version? And when the team was planning to bring the game to the PC from day1?
These events clearly show that Rockstar was doing its best to promote the old-gen versions of GTA V, which is precisely why they hid the fact that the PC version of the game was planned from the get-go.
Furthermore, it appears that the leaked log file was 100% accurate. Back in September 2013, we reported that GTA V would support both DX11 and 64-bit operating systems. It was pretty much clear that Rockstar was experimenting with the PC version, something that was confirmed by Rockstar itself in its interview with PCGamer.
“The process of bringing GTA 5 to PC was most similar to our last PC title, Max Payne 3. Our process of bringing titles to PC has evolved over the years. We knew that we would eventually create a PC version so early development was done in parallel with the console versions. In fact, some of the early preparations we made for PC, like 64 bit & DX11 support, paid off very handsomely when the PS4 and Xbox One architectures were announced.”
It’s also confirmed that the team behind GTA V PC was also responsible for Max Payne 3. Back in December 2014, we reported that the team behind Max Payne 3 was handling GTA V. Not only that, but back then Rockstar’s dev claimed that the PC version was already running with 60fps, something that hinted at a very polished product. And given Rockstar’s latest statements about the game’s performance, we can safely saw that those statements were legit after all.
All in all, it’s good looking back at all those GTA V PC rumors, especially when most of them are proved to be true. It also shows that we were right all along when we were saying that Rockstar would release the game on the PC. It also shows Rockstar’s attempts to hide the PC version in order to promote the console versions, something we all – pretty much – knew was happening.
GTA V releases on the PC on April 14th!
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hey guys, Deus Ex its on steam!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/337000/
It was on Steam immediately when they released the trailer 3-4 days ago. I put it on my steam wishlist right after watching the trailer.
why wouldnt it?
its okay, PC gamers also don’t need Rockstars game to survive. I am never buying their product again. why should I think about someone who doesn’t think about us? we also got plenty of open world games on PC. Skyrim was legendary. Witcher 3 is coming in 1 month. right now I am playing Pillars of eternity. Star-Citizen will never be on console because of its limitations.
It is bad decision. I want to see good sells of GTA V on PC. Seems optimization will be good and PC version will get graphics upgrade along with movie editor. It is not just a lazy port from consoles.
I agree but they could’ve reduced the price too.
“I am never buying their product again”
Why ? because the PC version of GTA5 is the best possible version we could have asked for ? because Max Payne 3 was a fantastic PC port ?
Oh, right, it’s because we got the game late.
It’s pointless to be angry about that. I don’t understand why people even care. As a PC gamer I just put it off and wait, knowing that I get the best version.
We get the game late. Who cares ? Everyone knew it was coming to PC and it would be much better on PC.
“its okay, PC gamers also don’t need Rockstars game to survive”
No, but we sure as hell would like to have them. They’re some of most well made games in the industry. Rockstar certainly know how to make games.
And we do get them anyway, in a much better version for PC.
jeuxactu com article (french site) writes about gta5 on PC, it looks like reference port, game runs great, and it’s much better compared even to ps4 version.
Best possible versions release everyday on PC and are not delayed as well. Shocking, I know.
Well you would think rockstar would expand and get more studios to make open world games like ubisoft but they dont. Thats all i am gonna say to this one.
The point is that yes, pc gaming doesnt need rockstar, but more games never hurt pc gaming.
It’s all about the money. If they hinted PC version, X360 and PS360 is obviously not going to sell 30M copies. It’s a bribery scheme paid by both Microsoft and Sony. That’s why people should not support these 2 culprits which was known to witheld games on their platform.
Wow. That’s not tin-foil hat levels of insane. Seriously, if anyone was going to buy it on those systems they’d buy it on those systems. And if they weren’t they wouldn’t. There’s no significant demographic overlap from what I can tell that would make it worthwhile to encourage double-dipping. If anything Rockstar has all the power and sway in that relationship, not Sony or MS. The very idea that Rockstar needs them more than they need Rockstar is laughable.
As if Sony and Microsoft have any say in what Rockstar does. This is Rockstar we are talking about. Sony and Microsoft would bend over backwards if it means they get GTA5 or any Rockstar game for that matter.
While you’re technically overall correct, this isn’t a Microsoft-Sony Conspiracy, rather, just a plain old Rockstar Conspiracy, committed time & time again, case in point – GTA IV, & it’ll be the same thing with GTA VI as well. They always had plans to bring it to PC, since they knew no matter what they said, not everyone would buy it on the PS3/X360, or even on the PS1/XBONE.
It’s all about maximizing the profits, & they play every fool out there dumb enough to buy it on the PS3/X360 because they fell for that bullsh*t, just like they played every dimwit too lazy to wait for the PURPOSEFULLY DELAYED PS4/XBONE Ports.
Microsoft & Sony withhold their own IPs because they believe it to be more profitable, which in Sony’s case, is actually true. Metal Gear, God of War, Resistance, Killzone, & now Bloodborne & The Order 1866 (not that Order doesn’t totally suck) have helped boost PS3 & PS4 adoption rates throughout the years, just like there are (unfortunately) many people who buy an Xbox just to keep up with Halo (which is seriously not worth it anymore, but some people are just suckers, so yeah), or Gears of War (/facepalm).
P.S. – “In fact, some of the early preparations we made for PC, like 64 bit & DX11 support, paid off very handsomely when the PS4 and Xbox One architectures were announced.”
Am I the only one who sees this as “We were totally not expecting the Next-Generation of Consoles to have 64-Bit, or hell, even DX11/12 Support, so…. we kinda dodged a massive Tank Shell there when we coded that shtick into GTA V PC”? Which just makes them seem even more ridiculous, since anyone with an IQ in the double-digits could tell you that those things would be on the (at the time) upcoming New Generation of Consoles…..
I think piracy has to be considered as well. Games that get released on console and pc simultaneously tend to have less console sales due to people saving money and playing the pirated pc version instead. This plays into the whole maximise profits theory.
That 30 million sales on console says otherwise. Used game market is nowhere near as bad as piracy. I was referring to the launch of a game which means you cant count steam sales.
Wow, no need to get personal about it. All I’m saying is that what Rockstar is doing works for a reason.
Didn’t mean it in that way at all. Not pitting pc gamers against console gamers in the slightest. The Order is a rubbish game. That’s why people wanted to get rid of it. That’s why it wont sell a lot. I would use a better example.
Lets compare the two. In both cases the devs don’t see money. In both cases the consumer plays the game. Only difference is the consumer either pays or plays for free. So morally and legally, used games is overall better than piracy.
A rented game or second hand game is a lost sale for the developers/publishers. The people that rent the game get the full experience and have no need to buy the game afterward. A pirate was likely never going to buy the game in the first place but is still a potential buyer weather it was for the multi-player or just to add to their Steam collection.
There is no way to prove a pirate will buy the game so thats a shaky concept. Bottom line is if your game is good, it will sell well and everyone is happy. The proof is there.
Theres no way to prove they wont either. I just think the piracy excuse is overused and inaccurate regarding its damage to the industry. There is no evidence to suggest that a pirated game is a lost sale yet a buyer of a used game has no moral obligation and no need to go buy the game a second time just to pay the developers.
I agree with your other point though, that if a game is worth buying people will buy it. Its how they buy it that matters and buying used is a lost sale for the devs.
That’s why the game needs to be good enough or appealing enough to persuade consumers to buy it at launch or close to it. That’s when they make the most money.
Yeah, its why established franchises sell well too, as people know what they are getting. The rest is hype and pre-order incentive.
I think if a dev has a used game problem close to launch then something went horribly wrong.
Why the f’ would someone buy a game they are already playing for free? That is the dumbest premise. Now, if there is a multiplayer or expansion that requires a legit version,maybe . That then goes with the point that good DRM is actually good for the industry.
Statistically, pirates spend 300% more on media and games than those that don’t. I own 500 games on steam and I may or may not be a huge pirate.
Just don’t believe that applies globally though.
Statisticly also pirates who pirate more buy more. Google it.
I know hundreds of people that will pirate a game to see if it works as demos have gone way of the dodo. And the way PC ports have been recently, I don’t blame them, but at the same time I don’t condone it.
And a high % of these people upon trying the game do tend to then go buy it.
I personally think piracy for games shouldn’t be seen as a punishable action, but rather devs thinking a different way and try to get the pirates to purchase there product rather than tarnish them.
Hell even Alan Wake on PC was pirated a sh*t tonne and they even added a pirate patch to Alan so you knew if that player was on a copied version, and yet it still sold exceptionally well on PC after all.
Wait you honestly think piracy is morally superior to used games?
Well then whose fault is it that the games cost so much to develop? We are not obligated to save a dev just because they decided to make an expensive game. I like how you are turning this into a console vs pc thing.
I personally bought my hardware for higher frame rates. I can see your point but is it really worth bankrupting your studio just for “cinematic” graphics? I feel they are digging their own graves on that one.
As much as I enjoy debates, we are probably never going to agree with each other fully. I’m sure we both agree that it’s great steam exists then.
I obviously can’t speak for others but I have been gaming since the mid 90’s and graphics does not bother me unless the game runs horribly. There are many reasons to hate the gaming industry nowadays. Like I said, at least we have steam so that when the games industry eventually crashes, they will still be there.
Consoles have royality fees. Soooooo there you go, consoles are essentially a ms/sony mafia.
He is an idiot
Lol I try not to indulge in such accusations when in an argument.
Sometimes a duck is a duck.
Nope, you just dont get the argument.
The point is it doesnt change anything the money dont go to the devs, so while it is legal and you seem moral, you actually are immoral but the law cant get to you.
If I had to sell two recent games, the money does not evaporate into thin air. I sold the two games to buy a new one at launch. Why is most of you ignoring this idea?
Because all you are doing is re-arranging your resources. You dont really contribute much in the industry by buying used games or from the bargain bin, it saves YOU money, it doesnt give devs money. You bought a game, you sold it, someone bought it instead of buying a brand new copy and then sold it back, you creating a problem by not keeping it, the money you get out of it are nothing compared to the price of a new gmae so you propably gonna spend it to buy a used copy.
I traded fifa 15 and shadows of mordor in to buy gta v for ps4, and my 360 copy of gta v got traded in towards destiny. I wouldn’t have bought either if I didn’t get any trade in credi, as I couldn’t justify paying full price, and seeing as you save a few quid for the pre owned at game, i see no reason to buy second hand… meanwhile piracy funds nothing, other than the quest for further piracy. Also used games have to have been bought at some point, pirated games get leaked before you can even buy it… remember when MS said they were removing the pre owned market? That backfired royally, and any attempt to do it again will be met with skepticism.
It doesnt they will get less sales now than they would if they released it on time.
“Getting money back to spend on other games is way worse that someone just stealing the game and never paying for it”
See how stupid you sound?
They’re greedy
Nope not at all.
Used sales do more damage. Since someone who actually buys gamesgoes to buy a game and the same copy that has been sold multiple times
over does not incease the games sales to push for a sequel. However the pirate stays as a pirate and nothing changes.
Pirates usually steal multiple games where someone who sells back games almost always buys a new game with the money. Used market is good for industry, stealing is not.
The used car market isn’t really killing off new car sales now is it?
You really are a moron. Piracy is more prevalent on console than it is on PC. So you have people illegally downloading console games as well as buying them 2nd hand. Look at it from a single developer’s point of view – we made this awesome game but people sell it afterwards and someone else buys it. This made us lose the price of a full game.
Yes, someone can make 2/3 of their money back and get another game, but then the company is still taking a loss. If they sold 30 million copies and 20 million were sold then bought 2nd hand in shops, they have lost a lot of money.
Why did MS try and stop the 2nd hand market? It wasn’t for their health! Hell, they even tried to stop you lending a game!
If people weren’t able to sell their games and had to wait until a while after the release day, then it would just create a knock-on effect and prices would lower. Then more games would be affordable from the release date if they had to be kept. You would basically get PC prices. I’m getting GTA V for £25. A lot better to me than £50.
You literally just said piracy is more prevalent in console than PC.
Seriously. You’re the biggest dumbass I’ve ever seen. The rest of your incredibly poorly written sludge isn’t even worth reading.
You really need to do some research, or just work on not being such a dipshit.
That’s because it is! We all hear of those guys that run a “business” selling pirate games to people. I even seen a few on the likes of Fake Britain with people being arrested and 10,000s of blank discs being found. Think of how much they’re trying to drum up by selling to anyone they can.
Look around online on any iso site and see just how many people there are on it giving links for Xbox/PS games. There’s 1,000s uploading loads of games. I heard that when some big games like GTA/CoD is released, the site crashes due to all the traffic.
There’s hardly any on them for PC. Even if you’re working off a percentage for this, just think that it’s the same for both platforms. If it’s 10% of all people pirating, then 10% of gamers on Xbox is more than 10% of gamers on PC since there’s so many! And you got that for both consoles as well.
It really isnt. The money still go nowhere, as i explained above, the money you get by selling a game are quite few, so you have to do it multiple times over to buy a brand new copy. Which means you are selling multiple games for mere pennies, then gamestop sells them instead of selling a new game to the customer. So the result of that is that you re-sell the same copy and the only one who makes money out of this is gamestop which then proceeds into blackmailing devs for preoder exlusive dlc or they wont put their games upfront. Also there is a ressearch saying those who pirate more, buy more.
The used car analogy is wrong since when you buy a car you buy a vehicle for constant use, that needs repairs, the company can make money by selling you those replacements. A game is a license to play, devs dont get anything by you buying it used, it all goes to gamestop which is a horrible company. This is how gamestop makes money not so much by new copies but by used sales.
You have been brainwashed. The used game market has been around for decades since the beginning…yet the game market is still here. Insinuating that selling your possesions kills market of said used item is just ignorant. All items in all markets have a used market.
So has pc piracy and still pc gaming makes more money than all systems combined.
Also no used sales do more damage. Since someone who actually buys games goes to buy a game and the same copy that has been sold multiple times over does not incease the games sales to push for a sequel.
The money from selling that used game almost always goes toward buying new games. The used market actually helps the industry.
Those other two people bought new games from new developers with the money the received and the third person playing the used game gets to enjoy a game they otherwise wouldn’t have played at all, likely making them a fan and encouraging them to buy the next game from the said franchise or dev
How can you possibly make the assumption that someone who buys a used game doesn’t buy any new ones? That’s a complete logical fallacy, and demonstrates extreme levels of both ignorance and naviete on your part.
Well said.
Also it’s very ignorant of you to believe used game sales help buy more games. I mean how many people do you think buy nothing but second hand games?. Also selling three or four games to buy one new game doesn’t really help developers when they could have sold three or four games instead of one new game. Developers hate second hand which is why they sell DLC up to 8 months after the game first went on sale and are trying to force multiplayer into everything. It’s also why Microsoft tried to tie games to one console and why Sony would have did the exact same if there wasn’t as big a backlash against it.
Also I can make the assumption that some people buy nothing but second hand games because I have seen it for myself. Why do you think places like Game dedicate over 50% shelf space to second hand?. Also not everyone who sells their games second hand buys new games as I only ever sold my games when I needed money for other things. That’s why there is second hand consoles as well in case you haven’t noticed?. In fact there is lots of second hand shops like Cash Converters that sell nothing but second hand games….
But it was okay for the last decade when Gamestop, EB Games, Blockbuster, Rogers, Jumbo Video etc were selling used games? What about renting? How much of that money went to devs/publishers?
Nice argument but if the same copy is resold multiple times over the game sells less so no sequel, so no it doesnt help the industry.
Yes it does help the industry. They still got the money for the first copy, and the sequel then has potential to sell tons more
How they got the money from the first copy when it was bought used? Also no, in order for a game to get as sequel it has to sell alot of copies in the first months at high price. So no.
The only reason you are saying this is because it’s Sony’s party line. Had they gone DRM as well you would be screaming from the same hymnsheet Guiseppe does along with the rest of the dualshillers.
But then I laugh seeing the amount of pre-owned copies of the odor and drivedud near collapsing the shelves of used games sections. Maybe they should be like Nintendo and not release garbage.
But then most companies are reporting profits on PC games. Especially ones that release at great pricepoints and have plenty of content like Cities:Skylines. So maybe the secret of killing the used market is not to rip off consumers with 16FPS rushjobs and derrivative 5 hour TPS clones and charge for $60 them. Food for thought :^)
Driveclub sold a crap ton of copies for a new console IP, and sold it at a full $60 each copy, and even with the launch issues they had.
They made more profit than cities skylines by far, and, fun fact, I can’t find any used copies and they aren’t avaialble on GameStop.com at all because its been bought out.
Do a little research next time before shooting off such a well written but misinformed rant 🙂
My god that is hilariously pathetic levels of “research”. DriveDud only sold 84K the first three months it was released according to leaked NPD reports. So no one was buying it at $60, loser.
NPD only tracks sales in North America. Try harder next time.
lol the strawman argument of piracy. really man? 2015 and you are still using that retarded a*s argument? Maybe developers realize pc bring in money. you know, like bandai namco. they enver in their lifes thought pc would bring money, dark souls 1 came out and their whole panorama change and now they bring everything to pc.
there are plenty of stories like that too, specially on the japanese side of things. strawman argument of piracy is something we used back in 2005, its not even a goo argument anymore, so how about you go read about the market in 2015, educate yourself a little bit and THEN, just THEN, come and comment.
U think PC version is only pirated these days? I have came across several studies…..in the survey from internet wat i found that Console games are being pirated immersively than before. Asia is the most popular region in terms for pirating games on their moded consoles.
However For PC The market may have piracy but they still profit from digital download and biggest market above all Steam/Valve helps a lot.
This is common knowledge among gamers. However in my experience more people casually copy pc games from friends externals than mod their consoles. At least that’s how it is where I live. BTW I never said PC is the only platform with piracy. Just pointing out that Rockstar pulls their tricks because pc piracy is more common.
lol copy games simply means the person who is giving the copy to his friend probably pirated it in the 1st place or how is the Original Copy one even working? i think torrent most likely is the cause to all this….but Rockstar put their cheap trick more so is not piracy i think its more because of the franchise demand i think…..cause GTA internationally is more successful over pc than any other platform.
Yes I meant torrent games. You might wanna check your numbers though. GTA has always sold better on console but the PC version usually has a longer sales tail.
As rumors goes Rockstar Games made $1.2 billion on Consoles……..and lets see wat happens for PC……..it will be out soon this week…….I know PC MASTER RACE gonna win this war.
Do you have the statistics?
Of what? PC piracy? Do you really need them in this case?
That argument is so outdated, yeah people pirate but plenty of people buy through digital distributors aka Steam (125 million active users), GoG, Gamersgate, CDKeys, Origin ect. The closest thing to somewhat accurate sales numbers is through Steam Spy which just came out (VGcharts doesn’t count digital sales so they were never accurate regarding PC) GTA4 which came out later sold 3.36 million despite being a poor port: http://steamspy.com/app/12210
Yes this is exactly why cod sells like crap on pc and destiny was not released on pc..
NO WAIT!!!!!
What are you even talking about? No one said cod sold badly on pc.
Compared to the consoles versions it does, it sells pretty bad especailly advanced warfare. So i woudlnt say HUR DUR PIRACY!!!
This “piracy” bullsh*t needs to stop.
It seems people get defensive when I’m literally just pointing out what Rockstar is doing.
Yes/no.
Lords of the Fallen released PC/PS4/XONE, & didn’t get cracked within a matter of hours thanks to that DRM they chose to use. It didn’t boost sales like they’ve been saying for nigh on decades now though, it didn’t do much of anything really, since it didn’t help improve the Quality of the Game itself, ergo the root of the problem.
In the case of GTA V, instead of the Denuvo DRM though, we get the Anti-PC DRM, which is about as functional as the Anti-Eastern-European Release DRM (delay Russian version by 6 months, was a ridiculously stupid fad for a while). Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together though would be able to see the PS4/XONE version coming, even if they didn’t have a PC to play GTA V on, so there’s no reason to say that they wouldn’t just Pirate the PS3/X360 version instead of the PC one, & just wait to buy the PS4/XONE version later.
Onto the shitck below which I only briefly skimmed:
Propaganda spewed out by whiney Publishers backed up by lies. The excuse for Online Games is one of the best ones ever – but, but… more Server Space is being used up! Yeah, because these days Licenses aren’t attached to accounts, with measurements ensuring they can’t be logged into at the same time from two different locations, etc. Like Offline Games don’t come with 5-Copy DRMs which are so ridiculous, they track something stupid, like a GPU switch-out, which makes everyone, not just the people planning to resell it furious.
People will ALWAYS pay what they feel is worth paying for a Game, no more, no less. They’ll pay that amount on eBay, on CD Key Websites, on Steam, on the PS/Xbox Store. If someone feels Order 1866 isn’t worth 60$, there is a near-0%-f*cking-percent-chance that they will ever pay 60$ for it, PERIOD.
Not to mention some people just literally, actually CAN’T pay that much, & unlike what delusional dreamers like Bobby Kotick & the idiots running Ubisoft think, most people actually wouldn’t care to pay 60/70/200$ for a Standard Edition with less than 50% of the content we were getting just a few years ago, which is another reason Used Sales are on the rise, Steam Sales are so popular, etc. etc. etc.
Look, I agree that piracy shouldn’t be considered as a lost sale. All I was ever trying to say was that Rockstar wants to minimise it by delaying the pc version. Thats always been the case with them. Ubisoft tried this as well.
I’ll try not to make another wall…. 😛
I’m not sure if their intention was just to maximize the PS3/X360 sales before releasing it on any other Platform, & if so/or just how much of a role PC Piracy, or really just Piracy in general, across all Platforms, played into it. With Cross-Generation Releases the entire thing just becomes a little more confusing, since like I said, you could just pirate the PS3/X360 version & wait to buy the PS4/XONE version later, which many people no doubt did, just like many others Pirated/bought the PS3/X360 release knowing it would be quite a while before the PC release, thus doing exactly what Rockstar wanted them to do – double-dip.
IF Rockstar seriously thinks like that though, which somehow wouldn’t surprise me, it would be disappointing to see that they learned absolutely nothing from Ubisoft’s continuous failures to make a single dent in Piracy.
Then again, nobody really has, have they >.<
The goal of MS DRM was to allow steam like pricing for games, as they were ble to ensure the developer would recover.their costs.
What?
That’s got to be the dumbest comment I’ve read. Nobody is going to buy an expensive computer just to pirate games and not be able to play it with their friends. There are a lot of people like me who switched from Xbox to PC. Chances are that after switching you have your old console around. When a game you like comes out and its only for Xbox and you have it laying around, your going to play it on Xbox. If they have a PC version and you prefer PC, you won’t get it for your Xbox, you’ll get it for PC. You act as if all people on PC are playing the “pirated version”. No sh*t console sales are going to go down when a game is released for PC, its not going to make sales go up. Also, I see bitching about selling used games in the comments. If you buy a car then need money and have to sell it, you shouldn’t be allowed to do that either right. How dare people want to sell their own property. They should be put in jail.
That is complete and utter nonsense , you realise that the PC version of GTA5 has been the top of Steam Sales charts regularly for a very long time now as well as independent PC sales charts.
If piracy was that bad on PC that not only were PC sales poor but it also ate into console sales as well then developers simply wouldn’t support PC and it would be ignored like WiiU. The PC gets the most developer support, most games as well as developers spending money , time and resources making PC versions look/run better than console versions and that wouldn’t happen if developers weren’t making money.
Nearly every single game is released on PC at the same time as consoles, in fact there are more games released on PC first and then consoles later than the other way around.
The PC version was delayed so they could milk console gamers stupid by telling them that they had no plans for a next-gen version of GTA5 so you may as well buy the barely working version on 360 and PS3. Had the PC version launched the same time as the last gen versions all it would have did was highlight how poor the last gen versions of GTA5 really are and how much the struggle running it so some console gamers would have held off for the inevitable PS4 or XB1 version. It had nothing to do with piracy as every other developer is able to get their game out the same time as PC. It was about milking console gamers and making them think the 360 and PS3 versions of the game were as good as it was going to get because I held off for the PC version opting not to pick it up for last gen or my XB1 so I am sure lots of console gamers would have held off for a sexy next-gen GTA5 if they thought there was a chance it was coming. It was all about getting day one sales at full price
Your view on piracy is rose tinted. Just because the game is at the top of the steam sales doesn’t kill my point and it doesn’t mean the game will sell badly either. What i suggested does happen and what you say does happen as well. Rockstars solution solves both.
Just because the game is at the top of Steam Sales charts doesn’t kill your point?. That would be “disprove” your point and in any case you didn’t have a point, you had a shit theory to make consoles centre of the gaming universe, the main attraction which the games industry revolves around and they are not , that’s why you came up with that theory and it’s nonsense. Every other developer releases their game at the same time as console and the fact that the game is at the top of the fcking sales charts for weeks before it’s even launched disproves your theory.
If piracy was as bad as you theorised then developers would have no reason to produce PC versions and simply treat it like WiiU. They are not obliged to make a PC version. This game was delayed because had it launched on PC all it would have done is let everyone know there would be a PS4 and XB1 version and that would impair sales of the last gen versions. After all you are talking to someone who didn’t buy the game for either my last gen consoles or my XB1 because I wanted to play the best possible version without having to buy it more than once. It’s currently pre installing from Steam right now so I can play it on Tuesday without having to download. You are a fool to think it was anything other than Rockstar wanting to milk people as they constantly said “No plans for a PS4 or XB1 version”. You honestly think they decided at the 11th hour to make a PS4 and XB1 version and have it ready that quickly?.
The PC gets the most developer support, the most games as well as developers spending money, time and resources making the PC versions look and run so much better than console versions and none of that would happen if they weren’t making a profit. You act like it’s common for the PC versions to launch long after the console versions or something?. In fact there are more games that launch on PC first and then ported to consoles at a later date than the other way around.
Not where games are concerned. You only buy a license to use it, that licence can be revoked If you breach the ToS. That plastic disc you buy is still licensed but for console players it’s hard to ban the license of a physical disc because there’s no key attached to it, but they can ban your psn account to stop you playing online. But still you don’t own the game, never have never will
The same could be said about ANY used product! What about them?!
The gaming industry shouldn’t be entitled to be the exception.
is say 70%of pc game sales are from mobas and f2p cash shop mmo’s.thats why everything is online these days and becoming cash shops.most played pc games.league,dota 2,smite,cs go,hearthstone mindcraft. he is a link.
http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/16/league-of-legends-continues-its-dominance-as-most-played-pc-game/
only reason i have a pc is for mmorpg.i dont like mobas.
You mean, people buy things that they enjoy with their own earned money? You’re right, they’re so dumb.
Lolwut?
I said specifically that people will pay as much as they think is worth it, not more, not less. When someone compares Games designed today to ones designed 5-6 years ago & finds a a substantial lack of content compared to the older ones with a price tag that’s about 20-25% higher than the one from back then, people see little reason to pay the extra for less.
But yes, to use your words – people buy things they feel are worth their hard-earned money, & Pirate what they feel simply isn’t.
Like Casodi said right above you – “That’s why the game needs to be good enough or appealing enough to persuade consumers to buy it at launch or close to it. That’s when they make the most money.”
I’m replying specifically to “It’s all about maximizing the profits, & they play every fool out there dumb enough to buy it on the PS3/X360 because they fell for that bullsh*t, just like they played every dimwit too lazy to wait for the PURPOSEFULLY DELAYED PS4/XBONE Ports.”
Sony doesn’t have that kind of money remember, at least that’s what the xbox fanboys say, so I guess you’re wrong, you may not know you’re wrong, but you’re wrong.
Sony defence force is here. Looking like retards again too.
But then they deny Sony paid Ubi to downgrade Watch_Dogs after the PC version was going to annihilate the “Lead” PS4 version. But then Sony is known for wasting money by releasing flops like Driveclub and The Odor Metacritic 66 too :^)
Well they seem to be having timed exlusive indies and ubisoft exlusive…sorry i meant sony /pc exlusive dlc. It stands to reason that sony pays money to keep the ubisoft dlcs off xbox.
Considering everyone on pc knew they were releasing a pc of version on the same time line as previous versions. I wouldn’t say it was a conspiracy. I bought it on ps3 knowing this as well. The amount of work they put into the pc version more than justifies the price. I can’t wait to play the amazing pc version. Eveyone including you and this author are just being dramatic. Why admit there is a pc version if it isn’t done yet. We can see what happens when they admit something, plan on release, and find out they need more time. This is standard practice. Companies everywhere make games and refuse to admit anything until the game is further along in development.
your posts are completly missinformed and dont make any sense. If you want to see bribary, check ubisoft sony exlusive dlc…. its also on pc. Other than that this looks like a techinical issue than bribes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57HVCxAiHIQ
That literally has to be the dumbest thing I’ve read all week…LAMO so now in your tiny little mind there is a conspiracy with MS(A PC company) and Sony to screw PC gamers LMAO oh my god thats just so dumb I cant stop laughing, so when they do this do they put aside their conspiracies to screw each other ah god I needed a laugh…It certainly wouldn’t be that console versions sell more so publishers might prioritize them….But wait, Street Fighter 5 is going to be on PS4 and PC with cross platform play damn it conspiracy debunked….
Totally agree.
You’ve just made something out of nothing. They never said it wasn’t coming to PC, they said they had no details to share at that time. They chose their words carefully and accurately. Stop trying to twist that for a headline. I expect that from larger money grabbing outlets, but seeing you do it makes me lose a lot of respect for DSOG. You should be ashamed.
I agree… They never denied a PC version, and it’s all about not hurting the sales of the last gen versions.. It’s big business, like it or not.. Now can’t wait for the PC version to arrive, been waiting since the very first GTA V announcement..
having no details is the same thing. it is obviously business. doesn’t mean DSO can’t disagree with it. also you CAN’T expect a twist like this from larger money grabbing outlets. they won’t dare say anything against R*. they want their advertisements/free review copies and interviews from R* and Take two.
“They chose their words carefully and accurately. Stop trying to twist that for a headline”
“makes me lose a lot of respect for DSOG. You should be ashamed.”
you are such a sheep… f*** R*.
i love how fan boys talk about lose respect to some guys running a small but dedicated web page, but loves to sucks big (and peasentry) corporations ballsss.
you should be ashamed (and all little sheeps upvoting you)
I’m not agreeing with Rockstar’s business strategy because I don’t, but that doesn’t give DSOG carte blanche to write whatever they want and misrepresent the facts with blatant click bait.
R* denied there was a PC version right up to late development, so in fact people would assume there is no PC version.
Show me a link to them saying there would be no pc version.
They never announced it was going to be on the PC, show me a link were they said it ‘would’ be on PC? You seem to make the assumption there was going to be a PC version based on nothing but history of releases, some of us did but doesn’t change the fact that there was never a PC official statement until recently where they announced the other 2 consoles as well.
If they never announced it coming to PC then how is it coming out on PC?
Read the article: “we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
That doesn’t say there won’t be a PC version, it says they don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time. It’s an embargo thing like every other developer on the planet goes by. It isn’t news and it isn’t a lie. Here’s a hypothetical. Black Ops 3 just got announced. If we were to ask Activision if Zombie Mode was coming back or how many maps will be in the multiplayer, what would there response be? Probably something like; “We aren’t announcing any details about that at this time.” Sound about right cupcake?
Good. Now go to sleep.
I’m sorry but the guy is right. I personally don’t give a flying f**k about Rockstar, but the statement is pretty clear, they did say they didn’t have any details, not that a PC version wouldn’t be released, ever.
I never bought a Rockstar product and never will.
You and others like you are the reason this company treats us with no respect, instead of having a simultaneous release with consoles we get it so much later.
Good job, keep supporting this company,can’t wait to play gta 6 in 2022, 2-3 years later than consoles.
There’s no single company in the world, that have your best interest in mind, it always was about our money.
Well, I have my best interest in mind, not rockstar’s money, so yeah, not going to buy it 😉
IMO gta5 is superb game, and I seriously doubt you will not want to play it. So of course you will pirate it. Well, in these days very few people buy legit copies on PC, and thats rockstar treat console users as 1’st priority.
I buy lots of games, but I won’t support a company that doesn’t release the game on all platforms simultaneously.
Totally wrong strategy. RockStar does only care about money, if you want simultaneous releases than buy it.
Do you remember that the previous GTA didn’t sell at PC.
Well now GTA V pre orders at STEAM for sure will marvel RockStar funders to a synced PC dayONE of RockStar next games.
I bet that.
No, you are sending the wrong message, they’ll see people buy it anyways, even after all this time and delays and they’ll think, well, if it’s worked for gta v, let’s do the exact same thing fot gta VI
Could be! Let’s hope not
R* denied that there was a PC version end of story yet then said there was always going to be a PC version, late into it’s development.
Basically R* doesn’t say anything about a PC version there is none.
“it’s made clear that Rockstar did not need PC gamers to show interest for GTA V as it had plans for a PC version from the get-go, something that basically contradicts the company’s earlier statements/stance.”
Sure, but many people called it from the “get-go” as well. Not every one was fooled.
The way I see it the only fools would be the ones who thought it’d always be a console exclusive or best on consoles. 😛
Duh
Cannot wait to to go through all this BS again for GTA 6 PC.
What do you expect? People have short memory, that’s why it’s working for R*, top seller on steam, people shouldn’t have bought the game, send R* a message, release at the same time as consoles, or take the game and shove it in your a*s.
Its fine. Who cares, honestly ?
Let them sell console versions and what not. At the end of the day, it means they can focus on PC after.
I’m a PC gamer, and I love this. The end result is that all versions of GTA 5 are the absolute best for the platform.
The PC version has so many extra features, has a good number of grahpical improvements, and is really well optimized.
What more could I ask for ? What’s the big deal anyway ? We wait a year or so, but we get the better game.
Fact of the matter is – if they released PC version in parallel, it wouldn’t be as good right now. It would be more of a port. it would be mediocre.
As for the article.
Well, everyone knew a PC version was coming. Honestly, it’d be stupid to think that it wasn’t.
good goy
well ubisoft rushes to hit day 1 release and their pc versions are garbage.
Plus, because it worked so well this time. They won’t be in any rush to get a PC version out of GTA6 at all. They have made more money off this game in less amount of time than any other game. They make these games on PC.. why on earth would it take longer than a port to console?
I do really doubt about that. GTA being already a blast selling in STEAM, next Red Dead will be released in STEAM at most weeks later.
Games selling at STEAM by the time of the next will be probably near or equaling consoles sells. Well PC is already selling better in some big budget games than in consoles as skyrim, metro and metal gear.
Well the console versions will always sell more, now if rockstar did what every other dev does and released their games sooner, that would be great.
but but but Rockstar is taking time. You want bad port? Didn’t you hear? Only one guy is working on 2 years old port, so that’s why they are slow because coding for PC is sooooooo hard. It’s not like other companies release games on every platform simultaneously. Rockstar is our savior. ROCKSTAR IS GOOD. YOU ARE BAD.
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Yeah, but they’ve already played the game for 18 months, or 6 for current gen, they’ve already moved on to different games, while we still haven’t played it.
We all played those “diffirent games” they played the crappy version, we are getting the remastered one with mods.
Great article, I’m glad you have the courage to write the truth.
Some clarification is needed (that is more appropriate as a comment rather than to be included in the article itself):
1) GTA V was announced as a console exclusive, there was no word for a PC version in the first official press releases we got. If Rockstar was planning all along to release it on the PC, it could say something like “Also coming to the PC at a later date”. It didn’t, and we all know why.
2) While Rockstar never denied the existence of a PC SKU, it never also confirmed it. As we said ourselves, it chose careful its words when talking about GTA V PC. However, the company acted like that SKU was never considered (when in fact it was planned from day1) and asked for more interest from its fan base in order to be considered, which is something that contradicts its original plans.
3) If you were not tricked by Rockstar’s stance, then more power to you. Still, this does not mean that Rockstar was honest with PC gamers.
4) What’s also ironic is that if we were talking about the same stance from a different company (like say Ubisoft) most would be cursing it instead of supporting it.
5) Rockstar’s stance will obviously not affect our PC Performance Analysis. If the PC version is rock solid and amazing, we will be more than happy to say it.
It’s been years since they co-developed this for the PC platform, and most likely they weren’t working on it all this time. With the new consoles taking priority and now GTA6 most likely in development, I wonder how many times they shelved the fully-functioning PC version, leaving it to collect dust. It doesn’t take years of man-hours to port a game to PC.
Speaking for myself.. Stating that many PC gamers where not fooled is not “supporting it”. It’s just telling it as it is. It’s also not even implying that they where being honest. Just that many people knew or realized a PC version was a foregone conclusion even if it’s a certain amount of time later after the console versions.
Don’t you know? It’s sin to talk against Rockstar.
Excuse me, Mr. President, any comment on the as-of-yet-unannounced plans to which we all know definitely exist, but nobody talks about?
Uh, well, uh…. I can neither confirm-nor-deny the existence of , nor do I have anything further to say on the matter at this time. If people are interested in , they’re welcome to express their interest in it, however. – “hint hint.”
Sound familiar folks? Defend them all you like, but at the end of the day, that’s exactly what Rockstar said & did.
P.S. You might want to stick a “Featured Comment” tag on that, it’s stuck all the way down here at the moment, where few people will see it 🙁
and thats why i wont buy it till its at least 20$. i dont mind a delay but saying nothing just aint cool
thats why they dont care about pc gamers. it will be pirited or they just wait for steam sales.what money is in it for them if it comes on pc. they made a killing on consoles. thats why it was pushed back for so long.
Oh no shame for shame, you mean Rockstar actually lied to consumers, Microsoft better look out, looks like Rockstar is trying one up them in the dishonesty department.
Are you so mad about the superior 60FPS version of GTA that you are blaming Microsoft?
You are a hilarious and sad Sony shill as usual
He actually talks about lying, when sony are the biggest liars ever.
HAHAHAHAHAHA says the sony fanboy. A sony fanboy talks about a company LYING to consumers.
Oh god the irony here is so high.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjxajKajcxw
Oh man, I hope I can run it good! Thanks for the link man.
From jeuxactu com article (french site) :
-People expected the PC version to be
graphically superior to the PS4/Xbox One version, but nobody expected to
be so blown away with such a staggering difference. Also other sites metion, that game looks noticeable better compared to ps4 version.
-It’s not a Ubisoft-style quick port of the console version, it’s
been reworked thoroughly to offer an unmatched experience on PC. More animals, reworked location, and game runs “perfectly” on older hardware (Core 2 Duo + 9800GT). No mention of which settings or resolution though.
-They felt like it was designed with bourgeois (very high-end)
computers in mind, but there are a lot of graphics options to make sure
it runs on just about any hardware.
-Rockstar dev claims recommended specs are for high details 1080p 60fps
I don’t know about all that. I mean buy the game, play the game. That’s fine. Should we voice our opinions though? Damn right. We paid for the game. It SEEMS that because of the consoles that the PC version has to wait almost 2 years? That seems a bit excessive. I don’t care how much more they give us. Almost 2 years is a very long time for a port. Especially when they make the game on PC to begin with.
They knew what they were doing from the start, and they get my respect for that, as it’s just business. But the vitriol it seems to bring up, seems to be the same old rhetoric again and again. Anyway, it’s all good from Tuesday, game on!
I mean I have a huge library of games that held me over but I am pretty sure they didn’t have to wait. They got some money for waiting from both Sony and ms. At least it seems so. Especially when they say “no details on a PC port”. Don’t get me wrong I am excited. Just wish they would consider where they got their start from a bit more. At the very least include everyone from the start.
WTF are you on about? they said they wouldn’t go into it, that’s all!
I don’t care about RockStar foolishness. AS long they keep doing great port to PC, that’s all I do care about. STEAM dayONE 4k 60FPS FTW
Played for fools? since every game is indeed developed in a PC, everyone knows that ANY game can run on a PC, and it’s a choice made by the developers if it doesn’t happen, most of the time having to do with money. They never said that GTA V PC would never happen, but obviously they wanted to focus on making more money on the consoles first, and they did, as we can all see, we’re only getting GTA V on PC almost 2 years later. I don’t see where they played anyone with half a brain, for a fool. There’s still no Red Dead Redemption on PC, and it was a business deal, but ofc it would have always been possible. It’s more or less the same thing as exclusives.
RDR was made by san diego who made the rage engine, they dont have nany pc experiance. So no pc version.
“For those asking about the PC platform, we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
That is not a denial of the PC versions existence at all!
That is them stating they have no information regarding the PC version.
This article is ClickBait Garbage…..
Tbh I really like your website and all (except your title logo design) but now this article is a huge clickbait and as from now on I will have to start double checking news coming from here which is unfortunate…
It is not clickbaiting you lack the necessary information. DSO reported the leaked info and was branded as a lie, it turns out to be true, DSO was right all along.
No. This is click bait BS at its finest. Nothing more.
Meh, it doesn’t matter. There’s nothing we can do about it, anyway. We could simply not buy it, I guess, but that does nothing to help bring Rockstar games to PC faster.
Nor do you need it. Clients dictate “fashions”. The PC is the biggest market and growing at a faster pace than any other console. With that in mind, if they don’t deliver, others will. In fact, it is how they made it with the first GTA.
I don’t think it matters that the PC platform is growing. It’s about money – there just isn’t that much money in AAA games on PC. Heck, I remember buying GTA4 for PC and thinking my purchase would help the next Rockstar game come to PC faster. Quite the opposite happened – GTAV took longer.
That’s a fallacy. One promoted out a of a necessity (on their part) to push the games to consoles. The reason as to why are varied and all simple, it comes down to economy (from saving on development time to limiting mods severely and others).
That is not to say that there aren’t people buying AAA games on PC. If it comes out at the same time, PC gets increased sales. They just want PC to sell much less.
You see PC is a very bad system for them. When you buy something on steam, you get an idea of the game’s value. You can easily go to sites reviewing it and see gamers comments immediately. It is far less in their control. PC gamers are also far more demanding.
There is also the point that if they released first on PC, you would never buy it for consoles later (no benefit), but many who have the console version will buy it for PC (the ultimate experience).
There is a plethora of reasons to push PC for later, but it will ultimately cause them more problems. In the end, people will be pushed of games for a while and they’ll sell less. It happened before, it may happen yet again.
R* already calculated that people would buy the game at least twice. Once on last gen or current and then on PC.
I don’t really see conspiracy here and I’m usually the first to jump in.
What is more likely is that they were in heavy production for a few years, Max Payne 3 and LA Noire didn’t do as well as they hoped and they new the “Next Generation” consoles were going to arrive soon after. They couldn’t afford a year without a product on the market but the “Next Gen” GTA V they envisioned wouldn’t be ready till 2014. So they pushed out the 360/PS3 versions they had, to quickly make a profit and held the new generation version back to the next year so they could make a profit. They always had a next gen console and PC version in mind but a year without a product would have looked bad for them.
As for the PC version, they were probably scared shitless by all the backlash against broken games and didn’t want the PC version to get caught in that crossfire.
My pre-load is downloading right now by the way.
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Lol. So?
You guys are just going to double or triple dip for GTA5 again anyways. What’s the point of this article again?
“Back in October 2012, Rockstar claimed that it had no plans for a PC version of GTA V.”
Can you not read? They clearly said “we have no details to share about a PC version at this time. We are focusing on the 360/PS3 editions.”
That’s 100% truthful. That’s exactly what happened.
what i find themost hilarious is that we had retarded fanboys saying it would never come to pc. something that anyone smart enough would disagree with day 1. gta will always be on pc, weather is1, 2 or 3 years late, it will always come to PC. it was obvious from day 1.
Ok, in all your conspiracy theorizing did any notice this article is wrong?
From above: “Back in October 2012, Rockstar claimed that it had no plans for a PC version of GTA V.”
Then they display this quote from RS: “For those asking about the PC platform, we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
“…don’t have any details to share…” does not in any way equal “…no plans for a PC version…”, a fact they pointed out in the very article link on this very page!
Quote from an article on this site linked from this page regarding the exact same Rockstar quote mentioned above:
DSOG: “The most important thing here is that the company did not debunk the PC version.”
This is poor reporting, maybe you folks should read and process the article before flaming RS, whether RS is good or bad, you clearly can’t give any credence to this article.
Kz
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“don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.” *does not* mean “no plans”. Can’t you read?
Quote from you:
“Now this is really interesting, because it clearly shows that Rockstar played PC gamers for fools. Back in October 2012, Rockstar claimed that it had no plans for a PC version of GTA V.”
The quote from rockstar:
“For those asking about the PC platform, we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
Where does it say rockstar had no plans for the PC version? They said they don’t want to share any details on the PC version..
L2read
i said it the whole time they keeped holding it back because its was making a killing on consoles.they knew it would be pirated once it was released on pc.their is way more money on console then pc for devs.and i have not herd anything about pirating on these next gen consoles at all maybe back on ps3 and 360 days but not these next gen consoles
Where exactly you get the piracy argument? Pc gaming makes more money than all consones combined if anything they would make more money if it was released on pc from the get go. ps3/x360 versions were pirated before release.
thats because of mobas and cash shop games is why pc makes more money look at the most played games and you will see its not that hard..as i said they games is NOT pirated on xbox one/ps4.
The majority of those sales comes from mmos and mobas, yes but so is the majority of consoles asles coming from cod and gta. That doesnt mean the the rest of the market doesnt exist. Pc has more exlusives nd game releases than all consoles combined.
Piracy is tiny compared to the past. Your argument falls apart when you look at cod, which doesnt sell as well on pc and you cant pirate it for mp, or destiny that isnt on pc but it cant be pirated since it is awlays online.
PWND!!!
I will buy it retail when the price drops, gta iv sucked and i wont download 60 gb.
I was going to buy the disc, until I found out that it might possibly not work with Steam. Wait for the reviews, it might be worth buying for the heists alone, join me on Steam.
Yeah i dont know about that either, if they gonna use rockstar drm.
Logically speaking you can just activate the code in steam and use the discs to install it.
7 discs though, ouch!
Well wolfenstein was 4 discs and it wasnt the whole thing you had to download 10 more gbs.
I don’t understand what’s the point of boxed product when you still have to download a huge part of games from their servers. I hate this sh*t.
I dont get it either, if you gonna go retail have the whole game in there…i am looking at you master chief collection.
“we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time” means exactly what it says in my eyes. We’re focusing on ps3 and xbox and don’t want to talk about the PC version right now. “don’t have any details to share” doesn’t equal “not making a PC version” – – article click bait and twisting words.
Nope, it’s contradicting, R* didn’t say anything about a PC version ,in fact we didn’t even know if we’d get it because there was no official say. The fact that PC users like me knew it was coming to the PC was a forgone conclusion only made us more annoyed at R* inability to even confirm a PC version was in existence.
I for one knew there would be a PC version, just look at the past releases and you’ll see a pattern, only this time it took longer because it’s on more platforms. Ultimately, R* want to get the most sales out of the console version because they’re greedy, pure greed but in the end as always, the PC version will be the superior one and they know it.
We know their marketing use PC shots to show how good their game looks, 4k shots that give the wrong impression to console users.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57HVCxAiHIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3yHhiqQaEU
GTA V !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F** u C**star ,u think releasing a game a year&half later at $60 will make me buy your product ?!?!
Think again.
Pirating this day one.
Yeah! You show them who’s boss by stealing because they released a game later than you wanted at a price higher than you like! Seems completely reasonable. It’s not like we have to deal with DRM because of immature basement dwellers like you. Nope.
whats the point of this thread/blog ? Big business lies? WOW SHOCKER . at least we are getting a PC version and it looks like they spent a lot more time than on the consoles.
Companies lie fact of modern life they know there is nothing you can do and that they will sell millions anyways.
Well, people like you accept the lying like it’s just another day, no wonder they can get away with it.
“people like me” we only just met O_o
Well stop them getting away with it then, what are you going to do?
I agree its not the best way to get customers on side but I guarantee it will and has sold like hotcakes on both console and now PC so some might say it was a cleaver sales technique (that’s if your stupid/desperate enough to fall for it)
“people like me” lol we only just met and if you want to categorise me then fine call me a realist.
So what will you do about it then?
(most you can do is not buy the game which I’m sure will hit rockstar hard O_o)
(I already commented but somehow it’s been deleted lol)
Rockstar have made millions from console and will do the same on PC only idiots bough console to play GTA either that or they had more money than sense, anyway if you ask me it was a cleaver way to make money and it has worked and there is nothing anyone can do about it, so gain at the risk of sounding like a stuck record what is the point of this blog? and what are you going to do about it?
Personally I will wait for a sale but I recon I will buy it.
seems you have no answers, so again I repeat whats the point of this?
Either way, 98% on this site are just going to cry at Rockstar, no matter what they do. I say just leave it in the past and see what happens on Tuesday. Can’t wait.
The article isn’t click bait. R* was hoping people buy the game on the XBox 360/PS3, then again on the PS4/XB1, then again on the PC because they announced each platform in waves with the PC version being last.
It’s simple, is there going to be a PC version, yes or no? No definitive answer and yet said years later:
“We knew that we would eventually create a PC version so early development was done in parallel with the console versions”
Contradiction
Well would they really announce a pc version so early people would riot it’s been 1.5 years since the old gen launch
The only quote worth giving any attention to is the 2nd one. They didn’t play anybody. They set their goals and went about completing them. It’s really that simple. And if you really got “played”, and to those who feel as such, I’m assuming none of you are playing GTA V. And you’re certainly not considering a pirated copy. Right? Right?
That’s why they tried to fool american console gamers, knowing that american gamers, as fools as they are, – sorry my language – cannot distinct in a luxury product and a modest affordable one ! They knew something – stupid, on my opinion – that expensive is high quality ! My a*s, stupid americans, PC doesn’t need expensive luxury products, and modest IS high quality ! As it was before, and shall be forever !
They never said they had “no plans,” they said they didn’t have “details to share.” And “up for consideration” was IGN’s words, not Rockstar’s.
I don’t see where anyone was played for fools. Whether they were working on it or not doesn’t mean the decision would have been made at that time to release the game if the quality wasn’t there; especially if they couldn’t bring it to whatever number of PC gamers at whatever level they thought was acceptable without having massively powerful rigs to play the game. The mere fact that there were rumors was something you could believe or not and there has been ZERO inconsistency in what Rockstar has stated officially. You can be grateful or butt hurt, but either way you have no reason to complain about Rockstar bringing it to the PC, which is precisely what this article does. How stupid is that?
Who cares about them having us as FOOLS, it is selling millions, because nowadays morals and ethics doesnt matter.
Right or wrong who cares, Grand Theft Auto has always been on PC.
Anyway 22 hours more hours until it unlocks on Steam!
Just pre-ordered it. It’s the only game that is worth for it’s online experience. When GTA 4 came out I was logging in 6h online daily. Don’t know if this will have the same impact though.
Is the author stupid? How do you read “For those asking about the PC platform, we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.” and concludes that they had no plans for a PC version? They clearly state that they are focusing on consoles first and that they aren’t ready to discuss PC. Seeing that they had to delay PC version 3 times even after announcement it a year later, they sure as hell weren’t ready the discuss it back then (even if they were working on it).
Hes just twisting words trying to write a controversial article for more views.
How does “not having any details to share at this time” equal “We have no plans to release on PC? Stupid…
Sorry but this is just a case of twisting a statement to try and get your wanted outcome from it.
“For those asking about the PC platform, we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
That does NOT clearly show that they had no plans to release a PC version like the article claims, all it says is they no details to discuss about the PC version at that time. If anything it backs up the original claim that they always planned it but put more focus on the console versions.
Witcher 3 PIRATE 4K DAY ONE!!!!
“We don’t have any details to share” =/= “clearly… that it had no plans for PC”
Its writing like this that makes me wonder if you bloggers, I mean “journalists” ever stepped foot into a classroom.
I think he may have misspelled say.
As a game dev myself, i can say that just because a certain platform is beeing worked on, there is no guarantee that the game will ever be released there. In the developement process, it might become apparent that the game is not possible to implement, or indeed too expensive to implement for a specific platform.
Also, nothing to share does not equal, it’s not going to happen.
How anyone can be genuinely surprised at this is beyond me. R* were always going to bring GTA5 to PC, they just wanted to maximise sales so released one version at a time. They knew full well some people would buy the game two and even three times. Was it shady to treat their customers like that? Yes probably! Was it a sound business decision by them? Absolutely! They are out to make money first and foremost and boy did they succeed.
http://www.reddit.com/r/60fpsGamingGifs/comments/2v0u9g/gta5_using_the_slowmo_cheat_to_create_60fps_more/
60fps gifs from ps4 version (they used some cheat for that). IMO 60 fps makes HUGE difference
– We all knew there would be a PC version
– R* never said they weren’t developing a PC version
– They planned yes but that doesn’t mean the game underwent development straight away.
– Based on their latest interview, it seems that the development of the PC version went hand in hand with the current-gen versions.
-If you think about it logically, they probably started developing the actual PC version with the current-gen version in order for it to be solid and not some cheap port.
– PC version seems greatly optimized.
– Bad clickbait article.
Tbh you don’t know how optimized it is ,so I would advice the likes of you to stop talking prematurely. In fact I doubt its going it to be 60fps in all scenes. For an open world game(like GTA V) with high graphical demand you would need an API which transcends DX11 shortcomings.
You tell him not to talk prematurely, yet you go and do the same, according to your insight and predictions. I ran Watch Dogs modded and maxed out 1080p at 60 fps with whatever shortcomings DX11 has.
I’m making a statement about the optimization based on articles I’ve read. It’s looking great so far.
U guys talking too much and not getting to the point ,thing is GTA V was meant to come to PC sooner or later. But for a company like Rs the only meaningful and understandable thing is sales figures ,and the only way to maximize profit is to release it in different platforms at different times .Starting from 2013 they made billions in old consoles then new consoles came and another billions ,and in the end PC release will make them millions. Its a smart business decision.With that said we all know PC sales don’t make as much money as consoles do.
They said they “had no details to share” about the pc version, not that they weren’t going to make one. Read before you wate your time ranting
seems i cant reply to you most likely deleting the comments lol
so what are you going to do about it ?
https://youtu.be/8dAUYAg8mAQ
You idiots are aware that the online part of the game on PS4 and Xbox 360 And Xbox One STILL DON’T WORK! Have fun playing single player! Stupid sheep…..
GTA 5 Online works on PC, been playing it for hours yesterday.
So? They never really said ”No, there is no PC version and never will be”
, they just played their words well making you think what they wanted you to think. Of course there was always PC version, and of course it was going to be 64bit and DX11 compactible, it’s 2015, not 2005 any more. We all knew it, what we didn’t know was when. We all assumed it will be with PS4/XBONE version, but it didn’t happen, and that was probably again a decision to milk as many copies as possible, first on old gen, then current gen consoles, and then the ultimate PC version.
Nvidia 350.12 WHQL Game Ready drivers for GTA V are out!
It was a marketing technique. I’m not even mad. We would do the same for our own establishments, I know I would.
Looks like you can’t even have a discussion without calling me names because you’re getting defensive about the subject.
By your logic, you’re assuming there will be a PC version by them saying “we’re currently focused on the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game and don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.”
No details means there is no PC version. Official announcement of the platforms means there will be such versions, until then there is NONE. So please, tell me when exactly did R* announce the existence of a PC version because saying we don’t have details means there is no PC version.
It’s really simple, they never said there will be a PC version, that’s all we wanted to know, don’t give a f*ck about the details, just is there going to be a PC version? Answer, we didn’t know based on console exclusivity.
Perhaps I wouldn’t pirate GTA V if it had released earlier for PC.
There are multiple reasons, the main reason I would say is for multiplayer, other reasons could include the want to have it as part of their collection of games on Steam/Origin/GOG etc because they enjoyed it so much or maybe they pirated it to demo its performance or just to see if they would like it enough to warrant a purchase. These where the reasons we had a demo when …we used to have demos. Nowadays we seldom have demos so the only way to “try before buying” other than Steams’ free weekends is to pirate.
There have been some noteworthy developers such as Mojang (Minecraft), Raven Software (SOF2), Ustwo (Monument Valley), Rovo Entertainment (Angry Birds), Team Meat (Super Meat Boy/The Binding of Isac) that have confirmed this to be true and say that they are quite happy for their games to be pirated.
Here is a direct quote from Team Meat: “If the game gets pirated heavily, if it’s a good game that people really like, they’re going to either buy it eventually or they’re going to tell other people about it. Either way it’s just going to come back to a sale.”
Now what reasons are there for someone to buy the game brand new after they already bought a version of the game second hand?
Those are good reasons, however I notice most of the games you have listed are not games with 100 million dollar budgets. More to the point, most people who go through the trouble and bandwidth to download a pirated piece of software are not doing so to simply “demo” that software. There has to be an incentive to buy the full version of the software.
I can tell you an instance where a pirated copy converted into a sale. I pirated Reason 5. I got used to the software and version 6 had features that were lacking in 5. I’m not going to lie, my first instinct was to pirate the software. Unfortunately, the DRM was so strong that there were no viable full-versions available. At that point I decided it was worth it to pay the $400 for the software. However, if I was able to find a viable full version, that $400 would have stayed in my pocket, no doubt about it. Also worth mentioning, they did provide a limited functionality demo. You were just unable to load saved projects, which sucks after you spend hours on a project.
don’t have any details to share about a PC version at this time.
Is not “no plans.”
These writers…
If they wanted my money…they needed to make a PC version. They did, and so they did get my money after all. Pretty simple equation really. Nothing personal, it’s just business. If you don’t want mine, please by all means ignore the PC and stick with the consoles.
If you actually thought GTA V would never come to PC, you don’t know Rockstar Games. Of course it was going to come to PC; I’ve been waiting patiently and finally it’s here. Yay!
The only reason why Rockstar kept the PC version quiet and denied it outright earlier, is because it’d create a lot of media attention. Rockstar has used this tactic ever since their first accidental controversy, to draw more interest and thus revenue to their titles. Sometimes it’s ‘hot coffee’, sometimes it’s a racist remark by a character, sometimes it’s breaking the boundaries on socially acceptable content and now it was denying a large playerbase the game, for a while. In GTA 6 they’ll probably do something such as throwing in a shady terror organisation which instead could be named YSIS, they’ll parodize something like gamergate, they might throw in a callgirl mockingly named Annie Sarkeesiansky or they’ll ‘accidentally’ let a version of the beta leak into public hands to make a bigger hype. Rockstar is the Julias Caesar amongst game developers, they know how to shock and draw the attention of the people with drama, a tactic which usually sells. As the proverb goes: there’s no negative press, there’s just the press, or something.