After almost a month, our EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti XC has finally arrived. As such, we’ve decided to test the ten most demanding PC games that are currently available and see how this new GPU performs. Now I’m pretty sure that most of you have heard that this GPU targets a 4K/60fps experience, however the following results will undoubtedly surprise you.
For these benchmarks we used an Intel i7 4930K (overclocked at 4.2Ghz) with 16GB of DDR3-2400, Windows 10 64-bit and the latest version of the GeForce drivers (416.34). The games we’ve tested are: Crysis 3, Final Fantasy XV, Project CARS 2, Quantum Break, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Assassin’s Creed Unity, Ghost Recon Wildlands, Monster Hunter World, Kingdom Come Deliverance and Shadow of the Tomb Raider. For all these games we used their Ultra presets, we’ve lowered anti-aliasing to reasonable options and removed all NVIDIA Gameworks effects from games that supported them. We’ve also tested the games at 1440p, 1871p (that’s DSR 3X as we had trouble setting a custom 3200×1800 resolution. Also, DSR 3X could not work at all in Monster Hunter World) and 2160p.
Do note that the following are stress tests, showing the worst case scenario, especially for games that do not have a built-in benchmark tool. For Assassin’s Creed Unity, for example, we benchmarked an open-world area with a huge crowd. In Crysis 3 we tested the first level which is actually more demanding (GPU-wise). In Project CARS 2 we’ve used our usual stress test in which we had 25 vehicles racing in the night during a Thunderstorm). In Kingdom Come Deliverance we used the area when Henry is about to do “something spoiler-ish.” At the end of the article we’ve included some screenshots showcasing the environments/scenes we’ve tested.
Let’s start by sharing our 1440p benchmarks. As you can see in the following graph, some games came really close to dropping at 60fps. So no; the RTX2080Ti is not only for those gaming with 120Hz or 144Hz at that particular resolution, especially for those that want a constant 60fps experience on Max settings. In Monster Hunter World we used the Hub area which puts a lot of stress to the GPU (it’s even more demanding than the forest area).
Now I know some might say that we are bottlenecked by our CPU. However, that’s not the case here (well apart from Final Fantasy XV and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey). In every other game, our RTX 2080Ti was used to its fullest, even at 1440p. We told you that these results would surprise you but then again, we also said that these are the most demanding PC games to date. Below you can find some 1440p screenshots from Crysis 3, Monster Hunter World, Ghost Recon Wildlands and Kingdom Come Deliverance. As you will immediately notice by our GPU usage, we are not limited by our CPU at all.
Oh, and in case you forgot how GPU demanding Quantum Break is, here is a… 1080p screenshot. Yeap, 95% GPU usage in that game at 1080p, though this should not really surprise us as there were very few PC configurations that could run Quantum Break without its reconstruction tech when it was initially released. And man… it still looks gorgeous thanks mainly to its advanced lighting system.
Surprisingly enough, Final Fantasy XV came really close to a 60fps experience in 4K (and we’ve tested one of its biggest cities so the game can run even better in other scenes). To be honest, I was expecting far less results but our RTX2080Ti was able to run the game on Ultra settings (without Gameworks) with a minimum of 53fps and an average of 62fps. Crysis 3 and Project CARS 2 also came close to a 4K/60fps experience.
However, things went downhill from there. Most of the other games averaged around 46-52fps with drops to low 40s. As such, the overall experience in them wasn’t ideal and those seeking smooth framerates will either have to use a Gsync monitor, lower their settings or lower their resolution.
From the aforementioned ten games, Quantum Break and Kingdom Come Deliverance were the most demanding ones. In both of these games our framerate dropped below 30fps in 4K on Very High settings. It’s pretty obvious that these two titles cannot run smoothly in 4K even on the most powerful GPU that is currently available on the market.
All in all, it’s pretty obvious from these tests that the NVIDIA GeForce RTX2080Ti is not an overkill for those gaming at 1440p. In fact, I’d say it’s the perfect GPU for that resolution and no; we are not talking about gaming exclusively at 144hz. In all fairness, and while RTX2080Ti cannot offer 4K/60fps for the most demanding PC games, it can come close to it at 3325×1871, Not only that, but I’m pretty sure that DLSS will give a significant boost for those targeting 4K resolutions. Seriously, DLSS may be more important to some gamers than the upcoming real-time ray tracing effects. However, there aren’t any games right now that use this technique which is a real shame.
So yeah, in conclusion the RTX2080Ti is a beast however it certainly does not justify its ridiculously high price… at least in our opinion. It also cannot run the most demanding games at 4K/60fps on the Highest settings though to be honest, some games – like Monster Hunter World – are seriously unoptimized. Some settings are also ridiculously demanding – like Assassin’s Creed Odyssey’s Volumetric Clouds – so we strongly suggest tweaking some settings in order to improve overall performance!
John is the founder and Editor in Chief at DSOGaming. He is a PC gaming fan and highly supports the modding and indie communities. Before creating DSOGaming, John worked on numerous gaming websites. While he is a die-hard PC gamer, his gaming roots can be found on consoles. John loved – and still does – the 16-bit consoles, and considers SNES to be one of the best consoles. Still, the PC platform won him over consoles. That was mainly due to 3DFX and its iconic dedicated 3D accelerator graphics card, Voodoo 2. John has also written a higher degree thesis on the “The Evolution of PC graphics cards.”
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so, it is BS
no his cpu holding back crazy.
Did you read anything from this test
i don’t need to, that cpu existing in a benchmark like this is wrong.
I’m skipping this gen.
the cpu is bottlenecking the fck out of gpu even on 1440p. but feel free to skip, not missing anything.
Not in 4K thou, in 4K even amd trash gets the same fps as Intel, in 1440p and 1080p amd’s top dog 27800x just dies, belly up, slower then antique 8700k.
for me its 2080Ti+9900K, using my old Gigabyte Gamer7 mobo [which is funny, since it has better VRM then most 390 boards, leagues better]
The answer is quite simple. We’ve tested an open-world area with a huge crowd whereas this video is from a mission with limited NPCs on screen. Sure you can get 200fps if you look up in the sky for example. Our tests are under the worst case scenario. Same applies to Crysis 3. While Digital Foundry uses the cut-scene in the second level, the first level is actually more demanding (GPU-wise). And again the same applies to Project CARS 2 (testing 25 vehicles in the night during a Thunderstorm. A real stress test and you’ll get better results if you test 5 or 10 cars in a sunny day).
Ok, but can you test one game just to be sure? Shadow of the tomb raider in 4K, max settings and high settings using build in benchmark. With maxed out settings you should have around 60fps, and with high around 80fps.
We’ve tested the benchmark and nope, on Highest settings you can’t get around 60fps. IGN for example got around 56fps. We’ve used SMAA while IGN did not, so add to our results a 2fps and you are close to the margin of error (54fps vs 56fps). Guru3D also got 54fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5CrHwlCItg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d2zOtN-dJo
Ok, it looks like your results are fine after all. Your benchmark locations must be indeed extremely demanding. For example in AC Unity “bang4buck gamer” shows extended gameplay with around 150fps in 1440p and he is not looking up in the sky, so people should keep in mind these games run different probably most of time.
But I have to say John, I like that idea of testing games in the most demanding locations. Most sites dont benchmark in the most demanding locactions and later on people buy GPU expecting great results, only to find out reality looks different. For example GTA 5 scores around the net suggest around 70-80fps in 4K maxed out on my GPU, but in the demanding areas performance can dip as low as 35-40fps.
LOL…
this Lucky8 kid needs some therapy lessons.
what a lunatic !!
Kingdom0, I know it’s your 2’nd account because no other people here use the same immature language as you :), and on top of that you are using new account. I almost feel sorry for you :P.
Guru3D got 58fps with these settings:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83479861c25871d78c8b048e3cc8903fb74cf290b15d877015cdbd86bd66b5b5.jpg
Actually they got 54fps according to their own video (they had TAA which has almost a similar performance impact as SMAA in Shadow of the Tomb Raider). Don’t know if they made a mistake with the graph.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d2zOtN-dJo
Video was recorded with the reference model (with OC). Hence the 5 fps difference since GBT version has factory OC aswell. John is running it stock as he mentioned already.
that cpu will bottleneck the fck out of 2080ti even overclocked. 8600k bottlenecks 1080ti.
personal experience.
Just shut up, man.
That being said it looks like you are indeed being bottlenecked at 1440p.
Actually, we’re bottlenecked by our RAM frequency. In the past, we were using DDR3-1600 and when we upgraded to DDR3-2400 we saw a 10fps jump in CPU-bound games. The CPU is not really being stressed in all these games thanks to its 16 threads. Unfortunately, we can’t go beyond 2400Mhz on our current motherboard. Also, that bottleneck only happens in Final Fantasy XV and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey (the RTX2080Ti was used at 92% so it’s not a big bottleneck really). This explains the small difference in these particular games. In all other 8 titles we were GPU-limited even at 1440p. Here is for example Kingdom Come Deliverance at 1440p (notice the 99% GPU usage).
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/947338126980013365/1DD5F55CAA01ACAA91CBBFB4583A915F3DBB5565/
Here is also Ghost Recon Wildlands at 1440p
https://i.imgur.com/LZKzwuO.jpg
Ok I had to test this myself and I must admit the results are not what I expected.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/288f0a75ce76fd3736c4f9a675f838644ae9ab2fcd2447cce67f24c7c1daa9a4.jpg
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d12e370d1d6b1af25baced542c8b7230dd9de84925b188055220cc2900901730.jpg
I don’t play in low resolutions for years and back then games scaled linearly with resolution so I expected a 2.25x factor between 1440p and 4k. I know from my personal experience that games like Crysis 3 and Metro Last Light scaled that way, and some seem to still do like Quantum Break from what I see on your charts. So I’m really curious about what changed for the others.
Now, if you take a look at my benchmarks (~10% OC), I’m still too close to yours in my opinion.
We haven’t overclocked our RTX2080Ti as it already hits 78-80 degrees Celsius. We’ve checked the Wildlands results and are similar to the RTX2080Ti results from Trustedreviews and Hothardware (Hothardware also used a Titan X Pascal with similar results to yours btw). The Shadow of the Tomb Raider results are similar to those from Guru3D. So it’s a given that the GPU works fine
Great,I can run cidney and aranea butt in 4k…
Those 1440p results are disappointing, I had to triple check the title to verify it wasn’t a 4K test. Smells like CPU bottleneck.
Who games on 4930? That CPU is old.
I still game on a 3770k and many people are still on a sandy bridge
Doesn’t mean its a good CPU.
Its good enough for most gaming situations.
I agree.
But more importantly ,it’s a real-case scenario and in the end ,it’s all that matters. There are plenty of tests with top notch builds but not as many as John’s. Kinda represent more people that those with 8800k’s, so that’s good enough for me.
I completely disagree 🙂
How many people that buy 1200$ video card also keep their old CPU?
People at the high end, that get new x80Ti or Titan GPU every gen, also do the same with their CPU.
Very few people will buy new x80Ti/Titan card and keep their old system.
These results aside, this gen is absolute f-ing crap. Its only purpose is to fill the coffers for a quarter or two and filling the market gap until 7nm rolls in to town…which IMO wont be too long from now.
Nothing is wrong with results. You get your ‘brain’ checked for sure. And, stop spreading your own nonsense ideas again. no one is bothered reading.
You are the one who attack people for no reason, and you troll my comments with absurd complains like : no one need play in 4K, or play with high framerate. Play on your console if you have no standards, but if someone has higher standards it should be not your business.
John benchmark results give wrong impression because some of these games run much better literally 99% of time (I have linked extended AC unity gameplay with around 150fps on average) and not to mention with few tweaks performance is solid. For example ghost reacon wildlands, with very high settings instead of ultra game run much better, around 65-70 fps in 4K. In fact 2080ti can sometimes runs demanding games in 4K better than his previous 980ti in 1080p resolution so 2080ti is sure impresssive GPU.
You are one of the biggest pathetic TROLL here on dsog. Please, stop your BS, because it makes you sound like an idiot each time you make a reply/comment.
And you sound like very bright and mature person :). As I can see many people here on DSOG like to post hateful comments but I dong give a damn about you, because it’s obvious who you do it 😉
And BTW you sound exactly like kingdom0, I’m guessing you are the same person :).
Says the biggest DSOG troll, KKW himself….LMFAO. Stop hiding behind this sockpuppet account.
Same goes for John Vega 64 -> barely wins with 980Ti lol
So im not surprise that he gets same results w/2080Ti as I do with My Vega XTX LiQuiD OC in those games at 1440p 😉
1732GPU/1180HBM2 +1% POW 1.094mV
PS. Quantum Break at 1440p working Great on my Setup…
These results aren’t accurate. Period.
Yep, maybe because of their system, very old ancient CPU, motherboard [maybe not even PCIe3 but 2] and so on.
Thats exactly it. Old mobo and chipset. Old,slow, ddram 3 – at least he upgraded this a bit. And a 5 year old cpu.
He’s affected by all of these, heavily. John thinks cpu or gpu usage he sees in screenshots indicate if his cpu doesnt have enough power or not, lol. The cpu simply isnt fast enough for either that card or the games from 3 years ago until now.
An 8 series intel cpu would vastly improve the minimum framerates, smoothness and frametimes of every game he plays. Fast, modern ram as well.
overpriced people out of market with insane prices
He is the only one to post results with the 2080 ti in this scene for this game. Maybe he should test in a scenario where draw calls are really heavy and see if he still gets 150 fps. Digital Foundry does the same thing they test the same area with everything. For example in The Witcher 3 the end of the game is more demanding the most scenes in the beginning..
Hi John. Thanks for tests. Could you also test games with Gameworks features on? I think that would be interesting too for comparison.
Does seem to be a failed node jump that had to be redone. Only the ignorant are buying these cards.
Agree, normal benchmark from typical gaming scenario will show much better framerate and IMO John should also include 980ti scores just for comparison (people will see 2080ti how much faster is compared to 980ti). Benchmark from the most demandong locations in entire game is a good idea but then normal benchmark from typical gaming scenario should be also added, because right now his benchmarks gives wrong impression. I have seen crysis 3 gameplay in 4K maxed out, and game run very good, 60fps for 99% of time (around 70-75 fps in 2’nd level with extremely demanding big field of moving grass).
AC unity 150fps, that’s average performance in extended gameplay video from my link, and it shows how true average performance looks like, while John benchmark score is 80fps :P, so the difference is huge between his extremely demanding location and typical gaming scenario. Also you are right about settings, because with few tweaks some games like GR wildlands (very high settings instead od ultra) run around 65-70 fps on this GPU, so 2080ti is extremely fast (980ti would run the same settings with around 30fps).
I honestly don’t do ultra settings any more. You eventually run into these kinds of games and its disappointing. But yeah should he have turned settings down he would have good performance.
PC gaming is truly pricing itself out of relevancy. You’ve got the 2080TI that’s running about $1300-1400+ that can’t even run 4k/60 or an Xbox One X which can do checkerboard 4k/1800p/30fps in most games for $500.
So, yeah. Full, true 4k/30fps for a $2500+ system or checkerboard 4k/30fps for $500. Prices are going to have to come down here for me to upgrade. I may be done with PC gaming if next gen is worse than this. RIP Steam library. (Playing MHGU on Switch right now anyways… $2600 PC collecting dust so I can play on a $299 console, lol… first world problems)
Xbox x is not using maxedout settings. For example wildlands run around 30fps in 1800p, medium/high settings mix on xbox x, while 2080ti run the same game around 70fps in 4K native, very high settings (and around 45-50fps with ultra settings).
People think if they will only buy he most expensive GPU out there they will no longer need to adjust settings, but that’s not true. Sonce 1999 I’m gaming on high end GPU’s and I dont remeber any single GPU that would max out every game and in extreme resolutions. So basically if you are buying high end GPU you will get buch better performance compared to slower cards (do you can game with less compromises), and that’s it.
The performance/price is the worst compared to consoles then it has ever been in history is my point.
And it will be worse, because Nv and AMD cant shrink process node forever, and it’s more expensive to develop better GPU’s.
While this is true about process nodes, I think with this gen, the main reason for the insane price spike is two fold.
1st. and most importantly, this is the first generation in a LONG time that AMD has not had anything at all to compete with Nvidia.With the 780ti there was the 7970, with the 980TI there was Fury X, with 1080TI, there was Vega 64. With absolutely no competition for the 2080 or 2080TI, Nvidia knew they were poised to price these cards at any price point they wanted and people were forced to pay if they want the best. No competition = screw the customers!
2nd. Nvidia is sitting on a ton of unsold 10 series cards. Pricing the 20 series any lower would mean they would never sell the 10 series cards.. luckily because AMD is a terrible competitor, they don’t have to keep prices competitive anymore and can raise the price of the high end 20 series so high that only the insane enthusiasts will buy them… so the make a small amount of 20 series cards that sell out quickly for the people with tons of cash and sell off the rest of their 10 series cards to the rest of us who are mad that prices have gone way too high.
Sure the cards cost more to make. They do every generation, but they don’t nearly DOUBLE the price of cards every generation. This is MUCH less to do with card production cost and WAY more to do with “We don’t have any competition, so su ck it consumers! We do as we wish!”
Nv is saying their engineers worked 10 years in order to make turing GPU. I’m quessing they have invested insane amount of money just into research and right now they will want to return their investment. 1080ti chip is HUGE, and with much lower yelds compared to pascal chips new price is not that much surprising.
Yeah. Every company is going to spout off that they are barely making a profit because they have been “working so hard”. Let me ask you a question. Do you invest? I do. Heavily. Do you have any idea what Nvidia’s EPS was last quarter? Nvidia had a NET profit margin of almost 36% last quarter and had a 4.2 billion dollar net income (after ALL taxes and fees are paid) for the trailing twelve months. Nvidia is making a KILLING in pure profit.
Of course they are going to say they spent so much on architecture. How else are they going to convince the general public to buy a card that is double the price of last gen for a 20-25% performance increase.
See through the jargon, bro. Look at NVDA’s Finviz page. This company is destroying earnings and bringing home a ton of money… they just have no competition this time, so they will bring home a LOT more now 🙂
Like I said. 95% no competition. 5% architecture cost
Diminishing returns. As the graphics rendering gets more and more advanced, it becomes increasingly more demanding on the hardware. We’re reaching the saturation point, slowly but surely.
Good thing I’m more than content with 1440p max settings and just over 100fps with my games, over say 4k medium settings and 60fps, which seems like the most meager of results.
PC gaming is still going strong for me over mid to low end console hw, that has to pull smoke and mirrors.
Because you don’t buy a 2080Ti to compromise. You want all the bells and all the whistles, otherwise – what’s the point? There are much cheaper options for compromises.
Quantuum break isnt gpu demanding! Its just crappiest piece of crap with crapy optimisation!
I honestly still believe that DOOM 16 is a far better port than most of these AAA games.
I hear ya. I once used to say the same thing. but you should try to have good settings management, But then again these are demanding/unoptimized games. (Ultra settings anyway).
And people call me crazy for having an RTX 2080ti for a 1080p monitor. If you want to enable all the settings (and I mean all the settings) including full AA, unoptimized and high demand options for un-optimized games than even an RTX 2080ti is not enough for 1080p (Deus Ex with full AA gives me 30 FPS at 1080p ).
his results are accurate, i have a 2080 ti also
These benchmarks are ridiculous John… Either you have a seriously unoptomized PC or you are doing something VERY wrong. I run a Titan X Pascal and get numbers as good if not better then those… 58FPS at 4K in Project Cars 2????!!! WHAT! On a GTX 2080ti? Give me a break! I do better then that with my Titan X (and with SMMA Ultra btw…) all day long and the GTX2080ti eats my card for breakfast! Were you benchmarking with vsync on or something??? Anyways there are like 20 other sites to go to for videocard benchmarks that actually know what they are doing… Obviously DSO Gaming is NOT one of them… Guru3d is one of the best and their benchmark results DO NOT mesh with what you have posted here…
Relax kid.
He supposedly used the most demanding location he could find, and that could explain results like this but IMO he should also include benchmarks from typical gaming scenarions because otherwise these results give a totally wrong impression. I have linked many extended gameplays from 2080ti with much better performance, 150fps in AC during entire extended gameplay yet John benchmark suggest game runs at 80fps, so the difference between YT gameplay and his results is HUGE.
His conclusion is 2080ti cant run many games in 4K 60fps, for example his benchmark score from wildlands suggest 40-50 fps, but he dont mention that’s only with ultra high settings, while the same game runs around 65-70fps in very high settings (I have linked gameplay from this game few comments below.). IMO 2080ti is 4K 60fps card, it can run around 99% games with maxed out details, and the remaining 1% require just a little tweaks
That old CPU is holding back the 2080Ti at 1440p and perhaps even at 4k. You need to upgrade your system to a 9900k and don’t even think about an Amd 2700X, it’s to slow for sub 4k testing.
Your link show only their profits, but doesnt talk about turing developement cost in detail! You dont know how much they invested and you can only speculate how true 2080ti cost looks like.
I also game on 1080ti currently, but 2080ti is clearly much faster card, and it will be even faster in new games. Right now I want to buy asus 4K HDR PG27UQ monitor but I also consider buying 2080ti next because 1200 euro is not even half of my salary so I can afford it.
Ok. This will be my last post here. I’m done arguing in circles. I won’t convince you that you are wrong and you damn sure won’t convince me that I am wrong… as I know that I am not! lol.
1) Nvidia has said that they have been working on Turing for 10 years, right? Ok. Nvidia has posted record, INSANE profits for almost every single quarter in every one of those 10 years. Cost to produce can’t be that bad when you are pulling in over a BILLION dollars in PURE PROFIT a quarter. My link tells you ALL of this information, but, it’s clear that you are not an investor and don’t understand how to extrapolate that information from the link I provided, which is fine, but don’t tell me I’m wrong, when I know that I’m 100% right without a fault. I wont argue this or any other point further. On Nvidia profits vs cost, I’m right and you are wrong. End of story.
2) Let me give you some performance numbers from UserBenchmark (that you can also look up yourself)
The 1080TI was on average 57% more powerful than the 980TI on release. The 1080TI launched at $699 and the 980TI launched at $649. A $50 increase in price (which is about normal, some gens it’s $100..) for a 57% gain in performance.
The 2080TI is, on average, all games considered, 27% more powerful than a 1080TI (which is very close to the number I originally gave you, so I am right there as well!). The 2080TI launched at $1199 and the 1080TI at $699. A $500 increase in price for a 27% gain in performance. That is sickeningly terrible.
No matter how you try to sh ill, no matter how to try to skew perception, you cannot deny the fact that lack of competition led to an insane increase in price for a VERY unimpressive increase in performance.
I’m done here. Believe as you wish. I’ve proven my point in spades. There’s no more to add. Nvidia has no competition so they are sc rewing customers HARD. That is the end of the story. Cheers.
You are actually correct. Don’t argue with this guy, as he’s a complete idiot and is just being delusional here on DSOG.
His recent comments further prove this, as he has the habit of arguing with others, and forcing his own ideas because he always thinks he’s 100% correct.
Lately he has been abusive towards others as well.
Man seriously, don’t waste your precious time/knowledge on this guy. ! Peace.
The fact that anyone could try to justify a 70% price increase for a 27% average performance gain, is just mind boggling. I guess that’s what company hype words and advertisements does to people. I can’t complain. I love when the companies I invest in get to people like LuckyNumber above and convince them to pay crazy prices for stuff. I make out like a king. It’s ALL about making that money! Cash is king….
Like I have said, you post just speculations, and until you will filnd me some detailed “turing” developement cost analysis I dont want to discuss this particular issue with you.
I’m looking at hardware canucks 2080ti review right now, and average improvement compared to 1080ti performance from all of their games is 42%. Of course there are games that shows unimpressive difference like 25%, but that’s minimal difference, not average, and some games shows much higher improvement.
Hellblade 42 fps vs 69 fps, that’s 20% difference to you? There are more games like that, and current games still dont use turing features. Star wars is using turing features and you can see x6 better performance in this particular tech demo, that’s insane difference, and soon you will see games with similar performance differences. If you dont want 2080ti, just dont buy it, simple as that but some people (myself included) are planning to buy 2080ti anyway :).
I’ve already proved you wrong. Everyone here knows it. You’ve been called out by others here for arguing for arguing’s sake even when you’ve been proven wrong. I will no longer argue anything with you as you clearly have no grasp on reality. As you can see, others here in this very thread agree with that conclusion.
You know what they say! When everyone around you thinks you are wrong and you are the only one who thinks you are right, you MUST be right then! lol.
Have fun man. This discussion is over and you clearly lost.
“”you clearly have no grasp on reality. As you can see, others here in this very thread agree with that conclusion.””
“Others”? You mean kunalsaha? He is using multiple accounts, and he created that one in particular few days ago just to troll me :). I have never even argued with him even once (he never wrote even one argument), because he attacked me right from the start when I asked John if he is planning to test 2080ti in current games. He obviously didnt liked some people like me are considering buying 2080ti, and that’s why he attacked me. He is basically jelous because unlike him I can afford things he can only dream about. Since then he started trolling my all comments with the same hateful comments, so I have blocked him (right now I cant even see what he wrote anyway :P).
“”you clearly lost.””
I show you proof (results, links), while you can only post your opinions. According to Hardware canucks 2080ti is 42% faster compared on average in their tests, and star wars tech demo results is beyond impressive (6x better performance on 2080ti! that’s insane difference). So I show you facts while you only ignore them, and on top of that start attacking me? (if you havent noticed, although I dont agree with your opinions so far I have not disrespected you, so please behave like emotionally mature person, and not like emotionaly unstable kid (like “kunalsaha” who basically attack everyone on this site for absurd reasons).
“”The price of the 2080TI is absolute insanity””
Let me ask you something, If you think 1200 euro is expensive, than how you want to buy your own house? In order to buy a house you have to pay around 260x 2080ti equivalent and you say single 2080ti is expensive :P. Personally I have already my own house, car, so from time to time I can buy high end GPU without even carrying about the price, and unlike my friends I’m not paying 1000 euro for some simple things like rare comics or for singe bottle of good wine (my friend drink expensive wines as a hobby) but for state of the art GPU, that will basically last me one or two years (depending when Nv will release 3080ti).
“”This discussion is over and you clearly lost.””
You can think that if it will make your day better :).
LOL….You really make us all laugh ! Stop embarrassing yourself. You sound ridiculous/funny/immature. No offense though.
lol. 😀
Don’t take this personally.
But you are funny and Harsh/unfriendly, both at the same time, You are no different than other Trolls, because you also resort to name calling and abuse, no matter who started the discussion.
A friendly advice. This is the INTERNET. Stop calling out remarks on others, because it won’t take you anymore.
Get a LIFE outside this comment section.
You are taking things too seriously here on DSOG, and on the INTERNET. Just ignore those whom you don’t like, instead of Blocking them. Because if you say them that you are BLOCKING, then it means they have really gotten under your skin, and you really got butt-hurt.
They way you force your opinions on others, and also call them makes you NO different from other trolls. I’m sorry to say this, but that’s the cold hard truth.
You keep on arguing and responding with your own biased ideas, and when someone counters and disagrees with you, then you get hyper and resort to name calling, and you show anger.
Seriously, grow up. We have been reading all your comments here on DSOG, and they have all been an absolute disaster. You spoil the whole comment section.
You have been spewing out your own opinions/ideas, and you expect everyone to FULLY agree with you, which is totally unacceptable.
Others also have the full rights to raise their opinions. Please, enough of all this. STOP for Christ’s sake. Show some decency.
If people will post offensive comments towards me first (and especially for absurd reasons, like being jealous for example), then I will always defend myself. But if someone can speak like normal people should, then I will never attack and post disrespectful comments towards other people. Maybe you have seen my rude comments towards other people, but I’m not the one who started all of that as you suggest, but obviously you havent read their previous comments so you dont even know that.
The vast majority of comments here on DSOG looks like this:
Someone post his opinion in normal way, while other people attack that person later on just because they dont agree. Just look on other articles and you will see literally the same thing, the same people attack other for really absurd reasons, so these haters attack basically everyone and not just me.
Personally even when I know for a fact someone else is wrong, I will never call him retarded or stupid, instead I will always try to explain my point of view and present facts. But of course when I will see someone is extremely rude towards me, then I will do the same. Dont blame me for that.
When it comes to “kunalsaha”, he never presented any arguments, so we never argued about anything, he just attacked me with really hateful comments right from the start (simply because I asked John if he is planning to benchmark his 2080ti), and later on he even delated his first comments because he realized how absurd things he wrote (and maybe because other people started defending me). Right after that he created new account just to troll me. Listen, do you follow other guys on this site (follow their every comment) and post disrespectful towards them every time they will post something new. I dont need to deal with guys like that, so I have blocked him and at least I dont need to read his hateful comments since then.
In this particular article many people critcize new Nv GPU, but most of the time people complain about 2080ti price and dont want to look at facts in regards it’s performance. One guy above suggested there’s not that much difference between 500$ xbox x and 1200$ 2080ti, and although I can agree with him xbox x price/performance ratio is unmatched then obviously xbox x is running the same game at MUCH lower setting, much lower resolution, and and much lower framerate. I can see that difference and for me it’s not a small difference, that’s the only reason why I have responded to his comment (and BTW. as you can see I have not attacked him in my first post, so please dont suggest I’m doing things like that, because by saying something like that you are basically lying)
John benchmark results from extremely demanding scenarios are correct, but at the same time they dont represent typical gaming scenarios and can unfortunately mislead people. His AC unity benchmark result suggest 80fps, while extended gameplay from my link show 150fps gameplay on average (even during fights) with the same settings used so anyone can make their own conclusion based on facts (actual gameplays from my links). 2080ti is more expensive compared to 1080ti (that’s a fact) but poeple here should not post hateful comments toward everyone who plan to buy this particular card just because they themselves cant afford it. Maybe if someone will consider all games in totall the average difference will be closer to 30%, but if someone like me already game on 1080ti then he should obviously want better performance in the most demanding games, and 45fps on 1080ti in 4K even with medium settings is not ideal. In games like these 2080ti already show it’s power, and performance gap between pascal and turing will only widen when games will start using turing features.
42 fps vs 69 fps (hellblade), 55-62 vs 103 fps (wolfenstein 2 new orleans level), 42-54 fps vs 58-80 fps the witcher 3 (with hair works on!), 49 vs 83 fps (shadow of the tomb raider). Even the evil within 2 is finally playable at rock solid 60fps now in 4K, and some really demanding games like wildlands and odyssey run also much better now compared to 1080ti just with few tweaks, odyssey (reduced clouds and AA) 65-80fps, wildlands (very high settings instead of ultra) 65-75fps. 1080ti even with medium settings will not run these games so well, so 2080ti is clearly faster compared to 1080ti and anyone who doubts that is basiscally ignoring these results (facts).
“Get a LIFE outside this comment section”
You know what? You have a good point, because I’m wasting my time on this particular site, where negative and hateful people are considered normal, and where people who will share their opinion, post links and talk about facts are attacked. On every other site hateful people are immediately banned but not here, there are no rules here, a totall anarchy. I’m tired dealing with so negative people here who can only post hateful comments in order to feel happy.
It was my last post on this site.
Indeed. This Lucky8 guy is a LUNATIC !! I’ve never seen such an idiot on the Internet. lulz
I just want to come back here to point out that you literally compared buying a graphics card to buying a house. Not sure if you’ve realized it by now, but you can’t live inside of a graphics card. A Yacht also costs more than a GPU, so I guess they should be $50 million dollars a piece right, lmao…
Dude. You are literally the worst debater I have ever conversed with on the entire internet…. and I’ve been online since the mid-90s. You are hilariously bad at trying to be right…. and now, as you can see, you have at least 4-5 people in this thread siding against you. Give it up. You lost. Take it like a man and move on.
Normal people cant buy really expensive things like yacht, while most people buy normal things like houses, cars… and GPU’s of course ;). Listen in Germany even MCdonald cashier can afford 2080ti (1700 euro salary), not to mention average salary (2400 euro salary), or rich people salary (engineer can earn 6000 euro easily). If you consider 1200 euro something expensive than you should obviously find some better job or start working if you are unemployed, because high end GPU are not expensove for people with decent job.
It’s not about what you can afford! That’s not the argument! I could buy 10 of these things right now if I wanted to. My car AND my house are PAID OFF! I’m not some 20 year old punk you are arguing with. I use my extra money to INVEST! I could probably buy and sell you twice and then STILL buy more of these cards! The argument is the item we are actually talking about COSTS TOO MUCH FOR WHAT IT IS! Your argument is the epitome of a straw man (look that up because I know you don’t know what a straw man argument is)
My god, your stupidity is lowering MY IQ!
You can lie other people, and maybe even yourself, but If you would be indeed rich, you would not cry about spending 1200euro for your hobby. I’m not some rich guy, I only earn 2400 euro currently but in the near future when I will finish my 10 years investment (I already realized 95% of my goals) I will probably become a millionaire but even now 1200 euro is not something expensive for me (and if you would buy high end GPU each year, then you dont even have to pay the full price anymore, if you worry so much about the money). Man my friend is indeed very rich and he pay 1200 euro just for bottle of wine (drinking expensive wine is his hobby) and belive me, he would never cry like you if he only would want to spend 1200euro for his hobby.
Your definition of expensive is clearly different compared to what I call expensive. But I’m not like you and I dont need to post hateful comments towards you like you are doing towards me. I wish you the best, and I hope you will become really rich in the future, because then you will see, 1200 euro is like pocket money, and that’s why even people in MCdonalds earn more than 1200 euro.
That’s all from me side, that was my last response to you.
You don’t comprehend very well do you? Do you understand the English language?
I never said I was rich
I am just old enough to have things paid off
You don’t have to have an insanely good paying job to have extra income to spend when your total bills per month are $800, and that includes food and gas.
I probably make just a little more than you do a month, but I have no bills and invest a lot of my extra money.
I value my money and you should too, regardless of how much you are worth, which is why I never brought up the subject until you wanted to tell everyone how much you could afford.
I have high 5 digits (almost 6 now) in the bank/investments and am completely debt free, son. If I want to spend $1200 on a graphics card, I will do so… there is one problem…
THE 2080TI IS NOT WORTH $1200!!!!!!!!!
Again. You are barking up the wrong tree here. Your antics may work on others, but, I will counter you every time, and I will win every. single. time.
LOL..
LMFAO..
Kid, please stop it.
No one wants to read your pathetic rant and opinion over here…LMFAO. Stop accusing others of having multiple accounts as well.
Kid, please stop it.
No one wants to read your pathetic rant and opinion over here…LMFAO. Stop accusing others of having multiple accounts as well.
He created this account the same day just to attack me (it was his first post here). That wasnt just a coincidence. You know why he never responded to me when I have pointed out he is using multiple account? Because I was right from the start.
“”pathetic rant and opinion over here.””
That’s what comments section is all about. If you have nothing interesting to say and you can only attack people who provide links and share their opinions, then go away. I’m not planning to follow DSOG articles from now on, so dont worry, you dont hear from me, but I’m trolls like you will still attacking people here as always (I articles)
And BTW- because your account has very few comments as well and because you are using the SAME words as he was using. I never spoke with “overkillwfo” or “Justin Punoose” but I have every reason to think you are the same brainwashed fool, who simply use yet another account and if these guys will compare what you wrote before and compare to what you wrote here maybe then they will also realize you are indeed using multiple account. Because I have every reason to think you are another “kunalsaha” clone. For safety reasons I will also add you to my block list. Bye bye you fool.
Kid, please stop it.
No one wants to read your stupid rant and opinion over here…LMFAO. Stop accusing others of having multiple accounts as well.
What a MORON !! I’m still here, you fool….And, no this is my only account here.
Kid stop it.
No one wants to read your uneducated rant and opinion over here…LMFAO. Stop accusing others of having multiple accounts as well.
Just STFU man ! How old are you, lmao…
This guy wants so desperately to win this argument, but he is wrong and he knows it, so he calls actual profit reporting “speculation” and brings up single game benchmarks in a discussion about how a $500 increase is insanity. He lost and lost HARD in this argument and I know that hurts him, but we must move on in life! 🙂
“”so he calls actual profit reporting “speculation””
Your link only show their current sales gross and because they have invested a lot of money into “turing” developement many years ago (and they still have to finance their future projects as well) their real profit from “turing” is unknown. Movie studios or game developers earn hundreds of millions from tickets/game sales when their product is ready, but it doesnt mean it’s their final profit. Until you will show me detailed turing developent cost analysis (and it’s very unlikely Nv will realese something like that to the public) you opinion is just speculation.
Again. You do not know how to look into a companies financial statement and I’m not going to teach you how to do it in any more detail than this: If you go to Finviz and click on the companies link it will take you to a page called investor relations where you can look up profit/loss numbers in detail. It will tell you what NVDA has made in profit every single quarter for the last 10 years. If a company is making over a billion dollars in profit every quarter (which is cold, hard FACT, not speculation) then the cost of development is MUCH less than what they are taking in.
In fact, that kind of profit is unheard of unless you are talking about the biggest companies in the world. AAPL, GOOG ect. The only reason you want actual Turing numbers is because you know they aren’t public, so you are hiding behind that… but, all you have to do is look at the bigger picture, see that NVDA is making an absolute INSANE profit every single quarter and your argument is null and void… kind of like I’ve made all of your other arguments null and void. Just look at my upvotes. You have almost NONE and I have at least 3-5 on every comment. There are multiple people in this thread calling you an id iot. How does that feel to you? Yet you keep on arguing and keep on losing.
You keep trying (and failing miserably) to justify a $500, I repeat a $500! increase in price for a GPU that is not worth it, and you are wrong. That is the end of the story.
Dude. We can keep this going! I’ve decided I will only respond to you while I’m at work from now on as I love destroying you in arguments. It’s so easy. Also, I will get paid good money to do it!
Ok, now at least you started acting like an adult and stoped attacking me, that’s something. Listen I’m not suggesting these numbers you have linked to me are not correct but Nv also spend money developing multiple products so their real profit from their “turing” product alone is unknown. Yes I was sure you will not find me exact “turing” costs details because Nv will never release information like that to the public and by now even you probably realized that.
“”billion dollars in profit every quarter (which is cold, hard FACT, not speculation) then the cost of development is MUCH less””
That’s a fact and I agree with your opinion, and they sure make a big profit and developement cost should be much less compared with their sales profits, but please dont suggest you know precisely how much they exactly earned, because only Nv menagement know how much they have invested and how much they really earned at the end after costs deduction.
When it comes to my “fans” here like “kunalsaha”, he use multiple accounts (at least 4) with literally few comments and he wasnt even bright enough to post something different. He literally copied his previous comment from his another account and he always say the same thing, so I cant tell for sure he is the same guy (and on top of that he also delated his post soon after that to cover what he have done). I’m not the only one who pointed out to him he is using multiple accounts. Right now this guy is upvoting your post because like him you aboviously hate me, but I can assure you he has no sympathy towards anyone who can afford something he cant, and even 1080ti is still high end GPU he cant afford. Do you think I have attacked him first? No, I only asked John if he will post his 2080ti impressions soon because I’m planing to buy that card, and he attacked me just because of that (and he started to follow and troll my all post since then like some psycho on top of that). I’m not planning to post om DSOG anymore so you will not read my opinions anymore, but you will sure hear from him :P. Who knows sooner or later he may attack also you and then you will see for yourself what that guy is really capable of.
I have nothing more to add in this discussion, I’m not used to deal with angry and negative people like him, and on different sites there are rules that keep trolls like him away from discussion. There’s literaly anarchy here on DSOG because John set no rules and anyone can post hateful and extremely rude comments in the comments section. Maybe someday DSOG will become different site but right now I have no reason to stay here.
LOL ….LOL.. Hahaha…
Test post.
I only have one question dude
How do you managed to run Assassin’s Creed Unity on Windows 10?