As per one recent report posted by the Chinese tech firm FCPOWERUP, Nvidia’s upcoming Ampere gaming GPUs are ‘rumored’ to have a different design and a power delivery requirement.
Nvidia is going to utilize a brand new power interface for its next-gen of Ampere gaming cards. This could be a reference design update for the ‘Founders Edition’ GPUs, when compared to the previous generation of Turing cards, which had different power delivery requirements.
We have already seen power consumption figures exceeding 300 Watts on some of the Ampere cards before. The cooler and the heatsink also appear to be a huge update over the traditional reference design that NVIDIA has offered over the years.
According to the above source, Nvidia will be using a new power interface that comes in a 12 Pin design for its reference GeForce RTX 30 series gaming graphics cards, which is pure 12V. The source also mentions that the new power delivery interface would be utilized by Ampere Gaming graphics cards having the ‘PG142’ board number. We can assume that these might be the high-end flagship GA102/GA104 GPU-powered gaming cards such as the RTX 3080 Ti / RTX 3090, RTX 3080, RTX 3070 Ti / RTX 3070 etc.
This new power interface closely resembles the Molex’s Micro-Fit series interface, which is 19mm wide and has a 3mm pitch (12-Pin, 2×6 rows).
The new 12V 12-pin connector looks like the traditional 2x 6-pin connectors hooked up together. The connector looks similar to the Molex Micro-Fit series of power connectors which are 19mm wide and have a 3mm pitch. This is the same width as two 6-pin power connectors that current PSUs offer but has a current capacity of 8.5A, as compared to 6A capacity of the mini-Fit 5556 connectors.
You would assume that the mini-fit would deliver 600 Watts of power but that’s not always the case since the actual power delivered to the GPU is around 400W at 6 Amps. The 20AWG specifications for the pins appear to be a primary bottleneck with traditional connectors. This new design change may be specific to the NVIDIA’s reference ‘Founders Edition’ Ampere SKUs, while AIBs can still ship their custom designs with traditional mini-fit power connectors. If you are currently rocking a high quality Tier PSU, then there should no problem using two 6-PIN PCI/PEG connectors. Most of the high-end reputed PSUs come with multiple 6 and 8-PIN PCI-e connectors.
A new PSU would not be required for this change in design though, hopefully. The source also mentions that there’s a secondary 4-pin interface next to the main 12-pin connector, but its exact purpose is not known at this moment. To sum this up and to reiterate (if you please allow me), not much information is available for this new interface, except that a single connector can supply 600 Watts. It also requires power supply makers to only use 20AWG wiring for these connectors to meet the power specifications. But for now, please treat this leak with a huge grain of salt.
As can be seen from the power interface image (see below), the new 12-pin looks like two 6-pins joined together. Most importantly, though, it appears at this stage that these new cards will still be able to be powered by two 6-pin connectors joined together, meaning that any PC gamer who doesn’t have one of these new 12-pin power connections, won’t have to immediately buy a brand new power supply when upgrading to a Nvidia GeForce RTX 30 series GPU.
The new 12-pin connector looks like 2 x 6-pin PCIe power connectors mashed together, which offer 8.5A versus 6A. It is likely to be using a 12-pin interface that’s already manufactured and in use in some of the applications. Molex makes interface for anything, and not just limited to power supplies. It is just that this interface might be used in some power supplies for the first time, though we don’t know for sure. Molex does have a similar connector with the same width as the 6+2 pin but with more pins. It’s called ‘Micro-Fit 3.0 Receptacle Housing, Dual Row with 12 Circuits’. More details can be found here.
It will be interesting to see how power supply manufacturers respond to this. Maybe they’ll sell ’12-pin modular’ cables for selected power supplies as an add-on? As of now, there’s nothing from either Nvidia or power supply makers. If this leak is indeed true, we’ll just have to see how PSU makers plan to execute this. I’ve reached out to some of the power supply makers like BE QUIET, SEASONIC to confirm this. Intel already published the 12VXO power supply specification standard on May 2020 and I think one manufacturer showcased one 12v unit at the CES2020 event.
“Speaking of PSUs, I just wanted to highlight these points as well, though you might be already aware of this, so you can safely ignore this last part of my article”.
Anyways, as you know PSU is the most important component of any rig/PC. First off, Wattage number is not always the deciding factor. The quality and the make/brand of the unit matters the most. The main concern is the “quality” of the power, the quality of the components used/CAPS, as well as the total AMP drawn on the +12V RAIL (output), the efficiency under load, ripple suppression, OEM, among other factors.
The total wattage number of any PSU is not always really the most important deciding factor, primary concern is the quality of power it produces, and the total capacity of the 12V source etc. Also, if suppose you have a 500W PSU installed on any RIG, then that does not mean that it will always draw the full wattage/500 W. Nope. The amount of power drawn is determined by the number of components on that rig/computer, and how much they actually require.
The amount of power drawn will only be equal to what is required, and not more. Suppose, if all the components of a rig require 400 W to run, then the ‘load’ on the PSU will be 400 W, and hence the power draw of that particular PC will always be 400 W (depending on the efficiency obviously), regardless of whether a 500 Watt or a 1000 Watt PSU is installed.
PSU efficiency is a totally different matter though, as how well the PSU converts the AC power it receives from the outlet, to DC. Any electricity which is not converted from AC to DC is given off as heat. PLATINUM certified PSU might help you save a little on your electricity bill, over a year, though this depends on many other factors as well. Because any high quality Tier 1 platinum certified PSU is rated for at least 90% efficiency at 20% load, 92% at 50% load, and 89% at 100% load (just a rough estimate).
Some good high-quality units I always recommend to buy, but this list is not exhaustive by any means. There are many more Models.
- SEASONIC PRIME, and Prime Ultra, or FOCUS Plus GOLD, Focus Plus Platinum.
- CORSAIR AXi, RMi, RMx 550/650W, SF, HX 2017, HXi.
- FSP – Hydro PTM 550/650W.
- Cooler Master – MasterWatt Maker MiJ, V series 550/650W.
- Antec – High Current Pro, High Current Platinum, Earthwatts Pro Gold, HCG Gold.
- Super Flower – Leadex Gold II.
- be Quiet! – Dark Power Pro 11, Straight Power 11, Dark Power Pro P10.
- EVGA -Supernova G1+, GQ, P2, T2, G2, B2, BQ =>750.
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Interesting new stuff. Thanks MM.
Anddddd i’m pissed god damnit i have custom cables 🙁
i am sure 2x 8 pin ( or 3 x 8pin ) cables could be just fine but u guees nvidia is the new apple
Even three 8 Pin connectors couldn’t supply 600 watts and be within spec. Each 8 Pin connector is good for 150 watts and the PCIe slot provides 75 watts so altogether that’s 525 watts. The article is talking about a 12 pin connector that can supply up to 600 watts.
so whats gona happen ? to they send some cabels so ppl can put togeder 4x 8pin into that 12 pin ?
I don’t know. This is the first that I have ever heard of this 12 pin connector.
And recalling the R9 295X2 dual GPU had two 8 Pin connectors but used 500 watts average in gaming. That was way out of spec too but it worked anyway.
because AMD most likely assume those that buying cards like R9 295×2 will also going to have very high quality PSU. my seasonic PSU have one cable that splits to two 8 pin. meaning that one cable alone can provide up to 300w of power. in AMD case they most likely forcing the 8 pin to draw a bit more than 150w of power. while this thing can be done i’m not sure if they are good thing for long term use. there are cases some custom R9 390X end up burning the 8 pin cable because it draws to much power from there (i think the PSU is Corsair AX 1200)
I don’t know how meaningful the PCIe specs really are anyway. Most reviews said the R9 295X2 drew around 500 watts in gaming. On a TPU review running Furmark the card drew 646 watts.
To be within PCIe specs each 8 pin connector was rated for 150 watts and the PCIe slot provided 75 watts for a total of 375 watts.
It was 271 watts over specs.
I don’t know how meaningful the PCIe specs really are anyway. Most reviews said the R9 295X2 drew around 500 watts in gaming. On a TPU review running Furmark the card drew 646 watts.
To be within PCIe specs each 8 pin connector was rated for 150 watts and the PCIe slot provided 75 watts for a total of 375 watts.
Of course this happened just as I upgraded my PSU of 12 years…
Do you actually want a GPU that draws over 300 Watts?? there’s not a cooling solution in the world that will keep these monsters quiet.
In my case I would buy a second 800W PSU if the GPU needs it. Don’t care just need power/fps.
My current GPU draws 250W when pushed to the limit and it’s perfectly manageable
Sorry, Forgot to include these images. Will update the article after some time ! 😀
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thanks for the information.seem like merging two 6pin connectors.
No problem. It’s Okay…..Btw, I just removed my comment before you replied, had to edit it that’s why.
i got a feeling this gen of incoming nvidia gpus are going to be a big step up
>Nvidia’s upcoming Ampere gaming GPUs are ‘rumored’
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Sorry, Forgot to include these images. Will update the article after some time ! 😀
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Are those pins glued together ?
That appears to be the case if that’s a single 12pin cable. IDK though.
It can’t be. Look at Metal Messiah’s pic.
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Each of the top pins match the bottom pin but the 3rd top pin doesn’t. This is done so that you can’t hook them up the wrong way but look at the top 6th pin. It is the same as the bottom 6th pin and so this isn’t just two 6 Pins glued together. This is something entirely new.
soooo isnt that the same as 2 x 6pin connectors next to eatch other ?
It can’t be. The PCIe spec for a single 6 pin connector is 75 watts. For two 6 pin connectors that would only provide 150 watts to be within spec. The article is talking about providing up to 600 watts from the 12 pin connector.
I think you would need a new PSU that could supply that kind of wattage.
Damn man ! Don’t tell me buy a new PSU just for a GPU. I cannot afford another new model. But the article says, new PSU may not be required.
I hope at least that part is true. lol
oh deer I wonder if it’s time to get a new PSU? I have had this for over 5 years now. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8edb2eeae2daf481e72678a17a4b4797106fc43fbfdfe023468fa6df8ec3f3db.jpg
Which PSU model/brand is that exactly ?
Nah, not really…We don’t know for sure whether the above leak/rumor is 100% legit though.
It could also turn out to be true, Intel already published the 12VXO power supply specification standard on May 2020 and I think one manufacturer showcased one 12v unit at the CES2020 event.
Nah, not really…We don’t know for sure whether the above leak/rumor is 100% legit though.
It could also turn out to be true, since Intel has published the 12VXO power supply specification standard on May 2020 and I think one manufacturer showcased one 12v unit at the CES2020 event.
We need to wait for some other official confirmation.
Everything is possible, but I just can’t believe that Nvidia would cripple their sales this way. But then, who knows the future…
@Me@MetalMessiah0:disqus
Someone on Twitter is saying that this is fake:
https://twitter.com/Eegras/status/1283502323893964800
Yup, we are aware of that…This article is that’s why tagged as a rumor. Google and few other translators are saying this, “I edited the above content.”
So it’s not really similar to “I made it all up” Its 50/50 for now, lol.
It could also turn out to be true, since Intel has published the 12VXO power supply specification standard on May 2020 and I think one manufacturer showcased one 12v unit at the CES2020 event.
We need to wait for some other official confirmation.
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Keep this page bookmarked to learn what’s in store for Nvidia’s upcoming line of GPUs. The rumor mill was suggesting that we will see the next GeForce lineup make an appearance at GTC, or the GPU Technology Conference in March 2021.
For the 08G-P4-3080-KR EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Super Gaming 8GB 256-bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 RGB LED Logo Metal Backplate the best I can find is PP-5503EPS AMS 550 Watts 24-Pins ATX Power Supply
That’s a poor quality “generic” PSU. Do NOT use this on any high-end Gaming GPU. Don’t skimp on the PSU.
User buys 600 watt GPU. Installs. Boots game and starts playing and then this happens:
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This thing is REAL and LEGIT. Confirmed this from my various internal sources, and also Igor’s Lab and Tom’s HW, TPU did a breakdown.
The connector is real, and will be introduced with NVIDIA’s next-generation “Ampere” graphics cards. The connector appears to be NVIDIA’s brain-child, and not that of any other IP- or trading group, such as the PCI-SIG, Molex or Intel. The connector was designed in response to two market realities – that high-end graphics cards inevitably need two power connectors; and it would be neater for consumers to have a single cable than having to wrestle with two; and that lower-end (<225 W) graphics cards can make do with one 8-pin or 6-pin connector.
The new NVIDIA 12-pin connector has six 12 V and six ground pins. Its designers specify higher quality contacts both on the male and female ends, which can handle higher current than the pins on 8-pin/6-pin PCIe power connectors. Depending on the PSU vendor, the 12-pin connector can even split in the middle into two 6-pin, and could be marketed as "6+6 pin." The point of contact between the two 6-pin halves are kept leveled so they align seamlessly.
As for the power delivery, we have learned that the designers will also specify the cable gauge, and with the right combination of wire gauge and pins, the connector should be capable of delivering 600 Watts of power (so it's not 2*75 W = 150 W), and not a scaling of 6-pin. Igor's Lab published an investigative report yesterday with some numbers on cable gauge that helps explain how the connector could deliver a lot more power than a combination of two common 6-pin PCIe connectors.
Looking at the keying, we can see that it will not be possible to connect two classic six-pins to it. For example pin 1 is square on the PCIe 6-pin, but on NVIDIA's 12-pin is has one corner angled. It also won't be possible to use weird combinations like 8-pin + EPS 4 pin, or similar—NVIDIA made sure people won't be able to connect their cables the wrong way.
On topic of the connector's proliferation, in addition to PSU manufacturers launching new generations of products with 12-pin connectors, most prominent manufacturers are expected to release aftermarket modular cables that can plug in to their existing PSUs. Graphics card vendors will include ketchup-and-mustard adapters that convert 2x 8-pin to 1x 12-pin; while most case/power manufacturers will release fancy aftermarket adapters with better aesthetics.
Sources:
https://www.igorslab.de/en/what-is-dran-an-nvidias-new-12-pin-power-supply-no-panic-but-it-is-override-igorslab-investigative/
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ampere-graphics-cards-may-use-new-12-pin-pcie-power-connector
https://www.techpowerup.com/269957/the-curious-case-of-the-12-pin-power-connector-its-real-and-coming-with-nvidia-ampere-gpus
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Wait for Pascal.