According to some leaked internal marketing slides from INTEL coming via _rogame on twitter, it has come to our attention that Intel has made some very bold claims with regards to the gaming performance of their notebooks equipped with the Core i7-H and similar mobile processors.
Intel has also compared two different laptop GPU SKUs which seems to be an unfair comparison, because both the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (Max-Q mobile) and the RTX 2060 Max-P GPUs are not similar in performance.
The simplest way to think about Max-P is that it’s not Max-Q. Think of it as just the full power version. The P stands for “Performance”, so Max-Performance graphics means the GPU is capable of running at its maximum power limit and can provide, well, maximum performance. Max-P is less of an officially used term; at least it doesn’t have its own dedicated information page on the Nvidia website like Max-Q does! Max-Q on the other hand is a cut down version of the mobile GPU with a lower power limit. It won’t perform as good as a Max-P variant, which runs at the top end of the power limit range. This generally allows Max-Q graphics to exist in thinner and lighter machines.
As evident from the ‘Intel partner connect’ leaked slides, the company claims that Intel’s own 10th Gen Core processor system is almost “18-23 percent” faster at gaming than AMD’s Ryzen 4000 Renoir system. Intel has compared two different notebooks, one with a 45-Watt Core i7-10750H processor, and the other with a 35-Watt AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS processor.
According to Intel’s internal testing, the notebook equipped with the Core i7-10750H CPU offers an overall better gaming performance than AMD’s Ryzen 9 4900HS laptop. The AMD Ryzen 4900HS is a 35W processor being exclusively used only by ASUS. The ASUS G14 ROG Zephyrus has been considered by AMD as the flagship model and it was used for marketing the product during the “Renoir” mobile launch. But both the CPU and GPU power is limited, and it also uses the “Max-Q” 65W variant of the GeForce RTX 2060 GPU. Unlike the full 90W variant GPU, this “max-q” model has the boost clock limited to 1185 MHz.
On the other hand, we have the Core i7-10750H notebook (the MSI GL65), which is a 15-inch laptop featuring a 45W CPU and a 90W “Max-P” variant of the RTX 2060 GPU. This card runs at 1560 MHz in boost mode, which is much higher than the ASUS G14’s max-q graphics processor. Intel claims the MSI laptop/system is much better in some of the AAA games tested than the ASUS notebook, and according to their testing done on Ultra settings, MSI system is faster in games by almost 18-20% margin! The MSI GL65 also seems to be 150 USD cheaper than the G14 laptop. This obviously is not a fair comparison, and INTEL could have easily used the full 95 Watts RTX 2060 variant, but they didn’t.
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Once again Intel is doing this !
As pointed by someone else earlier last week, intel sure has the gaming crown with it’s existing cpus but the overall best cpu doesn’t belong to them anymore. Especially when factoring price in the equation.
Yes, Intel is overpriced. I’m a big Intel fan but like you, lately i’ve been looking at AMD’s cpus and i might go red next time. The problem is that i really like EVGA motheboards and they don’t make AMD mobos ;(
They don’t need to “claim” when it’s the truth and always has been.
Already bought your overpriced, underperforming “10th gen” furnace?
If it’s true, then why the shady portrayal of their performance? If it’s true, why not go toe-to-toe with Ryzen, and show just how awesome their 14-nm dinosaur is?
Any answers? I’ll patiently wait over there.
My thoughts? The AMD Ryzen 4900HS is a processor being exclusively used only by ASUS because nobody else was interested.
No. AMD as always, has a root for OEM custom chip. As with Sony and Microsoft, 4900HS was requested by ASUS. While Microsoft also has another chip specifically designed for their surface line
What? Intel using smoke and mirrors to mislead people? I can’t believe it.
I would get the g14 but then I remember it’s the first laptop with the chip so I’ll wait
Well that sure was worth making an article about it.
Fuel for manufactured outrage I suppose.
Companies mislead all the time there is nothing interesting here.
well you are not forced to read or open any article on any website. so quit whining and shouting about this.
you clicked on this article knowing this news beforehand, so that’s what matters now.
Because they do it all the time nobody should bring attention to it? what a good corporate boot licker you are!
You are an imbecile ?
well you are not forced to read or open any article on any website. so quit whining and shouting about this.
you clicked on this article knowing this news beforehand, so that’s what matters now.
“Companies mislead all the time there is nothing interesting here.”
It’s apathy like this, that makes the world a s**tier place, not better. Pathetic.
A downvote from you, would be a badge honor. I hope to see one soon.
“The simplest way to think about Max-P is that it’s not Max-Q”
Genius!
haha,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PufFA8kDWFk
Hey Intel forget laptops or notebooks how about comparing desktop CPU performance. Oh boy, Houston we may have a problem hehe
Lol.. my take? I am surprised that you still be surprised by these shady moves. It is Intel’s signature to shintel.
Nyah, I wasn’t surprised by this leak though, as I’m pretty much aware of the tactics deployed by Intel in the past as well. This was just a hot topic to bring up, hence this article, lol ! 😀
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