And the moment of truth has come. I mean, we’ve had so many articles for the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition and we’ve been criticized for publishing articles about a non-gaming GPU. A lot of users claimed that the AMD Radeon RX Vega would be significantly faster than the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition as the latter was not a graphics card meant to run games. However, it appears that there was a reason behind all those articles.
From the looks of it, AMD’s latest gaming GPU performs almost similarly to its workstation card. In other words, the AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 is almost similar to the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition when it comes to games performance. Or at least this is what Duderandom84’s latest findings suggest.
Duderandom84 has tested the AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 and the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. Duderandom84 ran the game in 4K with all settings maxed out (apart from the Hairworks effects), and the RX Vega 64 was faster by only 1-3fps. Or if you like percentages, the RX Vega 64 was 2-3% faster than the Vega Frontier Edition.
Now before posting it, do note that PCPer‘s results appear to be a bit misleading. According to reports, PCPer did not use the latest drivers for the Frontier Edition, and did not re-benched the game. As such, we are looking at outdated numbers for the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition (which are the same with those from when the AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition was launched back in June).
Needless to say that we’d love to see more comparisons/benchmarks between these two GPUs in order to have a bigger image. However, it’s obvious that AMD overhyped the gaming variant of Vega. Whether the red team will keep optimizing both graphics cards or focus on optimizing only the RX Vega 64 for the latest and upcoming games – via newer drivers – remains to be seen.
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We need new AMD fanboy denial of how mediocre Vega is now.
I’m going with “fine wine” drivers and it’s Nvidia’s fault due to gameworks.
It’s also Nvidia’s fault that AMD wasn’t honest about retailer pricing that is going up because the rebate offer they have with AMD expired
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 is not a gaming card…… :trollface:
Yeah, AMD fanboys sure loves their delusion…lol.
gaming driver is coming with 64% performance uplift power supply is not working
lol..
……And the 1080 Ti performed almost the same as the much more expensive Pascal Titan X (not XP) did.
I think AMD just wanted to take a page from Nvidia’s playbook and see if they could get some of that big early adopter money from gamers. Unfortunately the Frontier wasn’t in the same league as the Titan X so…….fail.
AMD lies so far:
“The Ryzen 1800X will surpass the i7 6900K in gaming”
“Wait for the RX Vega to judge it’s gaming performance, cos it’ll be way better than the FE”
…and r- etards still buy their products or think that AMD is some sort of white knight. Just incredible.
When did AMD say that the 1800x would beat the 6900k in gaming?
You linked to a DSOGaming article showing footage from a ‘Jarred Walton’. I’d hope to see a link to some official AMD statement.
An AMD official statement would be official.
You really have a lot of free time kid. Where does she officially states that the 1800X is better at gaming than the 6900k?
And she might very well be right. In most multithreaded workloads for sure. Now, nobody but you figured out the part where AMD officially states that the 1800X is better at gaming than the 6900k…
Where does it say anywhere that the 1800x will be faster?
You have a unique notion of ‘official statements’.
Again, unique notion of official statements really. A computer running a game makes them. Interesting.
Here’s Lisa Su standing with a bunch of people. She’s indeed officially stating that AMD stands for polygamy. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d532e38b81e7927bce7f680af7caf2a201edcabd014ce9828dfd24307212f26d.jpg
amd put the 1800x next to a 6900k because its comparable in price. To my knowledge they havnt stated anywhere that it is faster all the time and they will bench on more favourable work loads like every company does.
Take your precious intel they made childish slides about threadripper and that AMD has no ecosystem server side which AMD decimated by showing companies that are optimising there software for it and they even talked about it.
Yes. Yes, you’re right. You are right kid. Even DSOGaming put the wrong title. I mean, instead of saying ‘AMD Ryzen 7 1800X versus Intel i7-6800K & i7-6900K – First Gaming Benchmarks’ the title should’ve been ‘AMD Officially States The Ryzen 1800X will surpass the i7 6900K in gaming’.
Hey, coming to think about it… everyone but you is wrong! I googled ‘AMD Officially States The Ryzen 1800X will surpass the i7 6900K in gaming’ and… nope, nothing like that appears. All the press is wrong!! But you’re right.
Riiight…
And you’re a kid who has a lot of free time and likes to have the last word but can’t seem to get the difference between two computers running a game in an AMD event and an official statement from AMD.
No its not you dummy. It’s showing that its faster in that one particular game at that given time. You can’t just put words in their mouth because you don’t like them.
Like if I’m gonna bother on putting a link for a r- etarded delusional AMD fanboy negationist like you are. It’d be a waste of time.
Go search the first official Ryzen showcases.
Damn LOL. Nvidia gonna be price hiking again.
Well shoot. I guess that there was no magic driver after all.
Nvidia or Intel most have stolen the code cause AMD would never lie to sell products. Their the honest for profit corporation.
Remember the whole “the Frontier Edition is not a gaming card LOL retards wait for Vega”?
inb4 “RX Vega isn’t a gaming card”.
At what point can we sue AMD for false advertising?
AMD would never lie. Just keep repeating that to yourself like all the diehard AMD fanboys are doing.
Well, there no saints when profit is to be made I guess. I seem to remember Intel being fined a whooping 1.4 billion for anticompetitive behaviors. They were paying companies like Lenovo, Dell and HP to use Intel chips and to stop the launch of products using AMD’s.
Having in mind how sh- itty AMD trash is, they were making them a favor 😀
Yeah, well, you’re in your early teens mate, so I don’t blame you for your lack of knowledge, but in the past AMD had stronger CPUs than Intel (well, even now both Ryzen and Threadripper beat Intel’s comparable offerings in heavy multithreaded benchmarks).
Same goes in the GPU department, AMD had the performance crown multiple times in the past.
Do you think that I care a crap about the Athlon “glory days”?. Go live in the present, AMD fanboy loser.
Oh and you’re such a winner kid! Seriously! By being an nVidia fanboy, you’ve declared yourself an absolute winner. Congratulations are in order. You win at life.
And btw, I do suck as an AMD fanboy, my last 3 GPUs have been nVidia’s and I’m set on getting a 6-core coffee lake as soon as it’s available.
Just look at previous articles, There are already people saying “Wait for Navi”.
Can’t wait in pc land, Otherwise you can keep waiting for the next best thing.
Obviously not a gaming card, just wait for Navi…. 😀
But …WAIT FOR GAMING VEGA. THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL CARD YOU ARE JUDGi…
oh wait 0_0
under-performing at ridiculous price
AMD is a console APU chip making company
they can’t compete with actual hardware companies, and while they suck at their competition
it’s good there are suckers out there who buy their refuse, their sacrifice greatly preserves the competition
even if AMD sells bogus hardware
to certain extend i did think that the console are holding back AMD from making better GPU on PC.
What the author of this article and most reviewers seem to purposely ignoreis that the RX Vega High Bandwidth cache controller is not enabled yet as their are still problems with the driver. When the driver is fixed for the cache controller it will raise frame rates 10 to 15% . There are still other driver issues that lower frame rates. It will be 6 to 8 weeks before these issues are resolved, Then RX Vega 64 will be mid way between a 1080 and a 1080 Ti. It is foolish to compare a product with underdeveloped drivers and unutilized features to a product with mature drivers, yoiu just do NOT get a proper picture of what performance will be. I do believe AMD released RX Vega before it was ready for prime time. I also believe Hynix issyes with production of HBM2 adversely affected both price and performance for Vega. Hynixs’s low yields were only resolved by lowering sthe speed of the HBM2 product. In Late February 2018 Samsung will have ramped up their HBM2 production and their product will be faster and cheaper than Hynix. I expext to see a refresh of Vega at that time with better performance and lower power usage, as AMD was forced to overclock the core beyond what was realistic to compensate for ther poorer memory performance. That is why vega’s power profile is so high.
HBCC is being disabled by AMD by default. not because the drivers is not working for it yet. because according to AMD the feature should only be use when VRAM is not enough other wise enabling HBCC will cause performance impact instead. and using HBCC will not going to increase the frame rate. what HBCC did was lowering/eliminating the performance impact when the GPU cannot provide enough VRAM for the game.
power consumption wise i don’t think it has to do with HBM2. GCN is simply that old. AMD need new architecture if they want better efficiency.
I’m a consumer before being a fanboy and I will say the Vega 56 is the way to go, but of course if you have the cash can’t beat the TI.