It’s no secret that a lot of PC gamers wished for a PC version of Red Dead Redemption. And while Rockstar never really commented on this, Red Dead Redemption’s Lead Multiplayer Designer, Kris Roberts, admitted that there was never an intention to have a Read Dead Redemption PC version.
As Kris Roberts claimed (26:19 in the following video):
“I don’t think there was ever an intention to have a PC version of Red Dead Redemption. I was actually really shocked that they did a PC version of Grand Theft Auto V. Obviously in development, we were all PC based and had it running for win32 clients for the entire development. But as far as the licensing for the consoles and stuff, it was pretty much always going to be an X360 and PS3 title… we never really seriously talked about optimizing it for PC.”
And that is that. Whether a remaster of Red Dead Redemption will hit current-gen consoles and PC remains to be seen. However, it’s pretty much crystal clear that Rockstar never even thought of bringing Red Dead Redemption to the PC!
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Better late than never. Rockstar make Red Dead Redemption Remastered happen, you will earn a lot of respect among the PC Gamers with your goodwill gesture. Release it for Xbox One and PS4 as well if you have to justify making it.
So much for teh mustard race lel
dat bait lel
Mustard Race is about playing games in 60fps and above, 1080p and above. Enjoy your GTA V and all other AAA games in 1080p/30fps while we play in 1080p/60fps and above, at worst a few months late but mostly at the same time as the console versions.
Yeah the recent example is MGS5TPP, even the expertise of veteran Kojima and highly optimized FOX engine doesn’t manage to execute those advanced effects on peasant hardware. They are called conslows for a reason.
cantsoles
To be honest, on both GTX760 and 770 i play with 30-40 FPS and 1080p. GTA5 is just like that.. most other games run at 60 at ultra/high, but not this one. The only 2 games that i got a problem with so far are GTA5 and The Witcher 3. I sure wont upgrade my amazing gfx cards until i see the next gen of Nvidia cards.
So far we are all waiting for them, and from what i keep hearin they will come out in 2016? It’s been 3 years now from my last upgrade and i guess ill have to wait 1 more, but the upgrade will be sick. Next gen Gfx cards/Intel CPU’s aswell. 2016 is the year to upgrade!
This seems pretty good. Playing games on max gfx, 60 fps (760 even still max out most games at 60 lol. 770 is way above 60) and 1080P for as long as a console generation. Why would anyone even bother with the LOLOMG30FPS@lowgfx consoles..
I saw a console TV show the other day.. where people were talking about how its impossible to be a PC gamer and to play on a couch >_> How a controller is a must have and the PC doesn’t have that option???
BLoody console ret**ds. You can plug ur a*s on the couch, plug the god damn controller in the USB hole and boom. My mind was blown for hours after hearing that.
I CAN EVEN PLUG MY XBOX CRAP CONTROLLER ON MY PHONE AND TABLET. Fools. GRR, this just makes me so mad. Why are people on the TV so dumb -_-
60FPS sucks, i prefer well over that on my 144hz monitor. :p
I don’t envy the peasants. I had a 360 and PS3 last gen. They collected dust before I sold them for next to nothing.
Once you go PC you can’t go back.
Of course. Its a big eye opener. Live poorly for 30 years and then win the lottery.. you will see what you have been missing out all of your life. 😛
This is the same kind of thing.. i only feel sorry for them.. mostly for the ones that can afford a good PC but think the consoles are better lol.
I even made sure to buy nothing but exclusives on the 360/PS3 and I wasn’t impressed at all. They’re good for kids, but if you’re employed and have any gaming standards at all you don’t get your gaming hardware at Walmart or Gamestop.
Just like someone who considers themselves a culinary enthusiast doesn’t eat fast food.
dont be, their intelligence doesnt see past 30 fps.
Ha, nice one.
yep
not sure why u dirty peasants linger on a PC only website
Oh you mean the most profitable platform with the most exclusives and the most releases per year?
F*ck off will you.
“I was actually really shocked that they did a PC version of Grand Theft Auto V”
yea sure. nobody seen that coming. /sarcasm
Somebody tell this stupid guy that GTA or any other game lives much longer on PC thanks to wonderful modding community and loyal PC fan base, somebody ask him that why isn’t he shocked on the fact that GTA 4 is nowhere to be found on consoles while it’s still thriving on PC, don’t know how these retards manage to get into industry.
Oh, they know that their game will live longer on the PC but they also know they are not getting any money out of that longevity. At times I think we were only able to get GTAV simply because Rockstar found a way to monetize the game’s longevity through the multiplayer DLCs. Max Payne 3 DLCs were just multiplayer maps and skins and currently it’s the same for GTAV. Add to that their cold and harsh treatment towards GTAV mods.
A well made game always sell fine on PC, Witcher 3 sold 30% on PC as revealed recently and it will continue to sell thanks to mods while console versions will get flat over time, Dark Souls series sold 40% on PC even after the fact that it wasn’t too good on PC with it’s below average port. A lot of small devs made a fortune from PC because as new devs they put enough effort into their game and it pays off, Divinity Original Sin is an example.
The fact is developers are getting more and more greedy over time, they know that there is money in PC but at the same time they want that money without extra effort on PC version, that is why we see a lot of devs jumping to PC with terrible ports slapped on our faces and they expect them to sell well and when they doesn’t then they start to complain, they never see their own fault. Batman could have been sold a whole lot more had they made it properly and so goes for several games.
You know, I know, everybody here knows, but it seems developers doesnt know that.
You know i think you people are idiots because new ports come to pc every other day, but hey you know better than them what makes money.
That’s actually a very good reasoning… for any non GTA game. You’re talking about Grand Theft Auto V, the game that easily sold over 10 million units on the first 24 hours. Yes, the game on PC may have more longivity, but how long will it take for it to sell about as much as it did on PS3 or Xbox 360? Granted the justification they gave for not releasing RDR on PC is retarded, and as much as it saddens me to say it, Rockstar wouldn’t lose a lot of money for not releasing it on PC.
It’s not like CDPR or Bethesda, where PC sales are actually very good and relevant to them. To Rockstar, sales made on PC are just change for the bus compared to what they make selling them on consoles.
“Rockstar wouldn’t lose a lot of money for not releasing it on PC”
Ohhh boy…aint your country in captalism yet? cause its just a peasant BS
For an investor…even 10bucks lost are enough to complain…
you seems to not know how greedy people gets after knowing how easy is to get rich!
How exactly they gonna lose money now with denuvo?
It doesnt matter how long it will take to reach console sales, since its just a f’ing folder with files on some Steam Server and not a plastic box with a DVD inside rooting on some console store shelf. I mean that plastic box cost them money, and at this moment everybody on consoles are buying used copies, while on digital the game keep selling and Rockstar is receiving their money. So yeah, PC is much better investment that consoles on long term. Even GTA IV is still selling new digital copies.
” but how long will it take for it to sell about as much as it did on PS3 or Xbox 360?”
No way knowing if they release it years later.
Rockstar make a lot of money on PC not to mention that money mostly comes from digital sales where there are less royalties so it makes bigger portion of the profit. Their games will sell even better if they decide to support PC more openly like Bethesda or CDPR, those companies openly support modding communities while Rockstar make it difficult for communities to mod their game, Bethesda even announced the creation kit for Fallout 4 even before the release of the game so of course that will increase the sales but even after it’s it’s draconian nature Rockstar games sell great on PC.
Don’t delude yourself, Bethesda was only on-board for Fallout 4 Mods because of the Monetized Steam Workshop Plans. You can see it on how the Doom 4 Modding Tools are sh*t, & the Fallout 4 ones are now being delayed to Post-Launch;
They’re no longer a priority now that Bethesda can’t monetize the sh*t out of them, & they’ll be phasing them out over the years as they move on to new Engines…..
Assuming they ever stop modifying that disgraceful piece of sh*t that the Morrowind Engine is at this point & calling it “something new.”
What.
Dude, stop and think for a second. They don’t care about longevity of their games. They don’t make a dime from GTA 4 ‘still thriving on PC’.
They make money by selling games, and apparently they don’t think investing in a RDR PC port would make them a good return of investment.
“Dude, stop and think for a second”
“They don’t make a dime from GTA 4 ‘still thriving on PC’.”
“They make money by selling games”
“they don’t think investing in a RDR PC port would make them a good return of investment.”
I was looking for something to call you out on your bs and this is good as any.
Have you stopped and thinked for a second? Why Do so many devs put their games on pc even as late ports years later? Gt iv isnt given free on steam it is sold and it is making money.
When day after day you hear about new ports coming to pc, it is clear that RDR will be a good investment, after all HD remasters is all this gen is doing.
Back then it didnt seem like a good idea but ofcourse back then rockstar san diego had never made a pc game and they had to get rockstar torronto to do put it on pc.
Just read my post again, I never said RDR wouldn’t make a good ROI for Rockstar.
They make money by selling games, and apparently they don’t think
investing in a RDR PC port would make them a good return of investment.
You can claim “they think” as a way out, but you state nothing to the contrary.
Well, isn’t it plain obvious they don’t port it because they don’t consider it to be good business? Or do you really think they don’t do it because they have a personal vendetta against PC users?
Well they are fools if they don’t know about it, whenever Skyrim drops on promotion it still out rank all the latest titles on Steam so why are people still buying that old game ? because of mods and how much fun you can have with it, that’s one of the reason why Bethesda tried to commercialize mods.
As for RDR, I think it will still do great though not as great as they expect because it’s several years old now, had they made it on the right time then it would have sold a lot.
Uh, that’s not a good comparison, Bethesda games sell because A) triple A marketing, and B) it has a huge, established modding scene.
GTA games were never about modding, they’re not built for that.
Dude you must be living in another world, I can show you a heavily modded GTA 4 that you won’t even recognize, even GTA 5 is getting amazing mods despite the fact that it’s not officially supported and the game is still new. There is a vibrant and established modding scene for GTA as well, it can go to new heights if they support it officially but that’s another discussion.
You’re just no getting the point, it’s not about there being mods for GTA or not, you make it sound like the modding community for GTA is the same as for Bethesda games and that’s just plain wrong.
You’re also not getting the point, if you’re trying to give an impression that GTA modding isn’t big enough then you’re completely wrong, it’s big though not very visible due to the fact that devs don’t acknowledge it. You’re just pretending that they don’t make a dime because of the modding scene but the fact is they just don’t want look at it.
Dude, what? I’m not pretending anything and obviously Rockstar doesn’t give a toss about modding and PC.
And GTA modding scene is nowhere near Bethesda modding scene, are you really contesting that? And I don’t even like Bethesda games (except maybe Morrowind)
Agreed, it’s amazing how many idiots find themselves in High-Ranking Positions.
Then we still wonder how the hell they manage to screw up their Projects so badly….
I’ve read somewhere that the RAGE version that they used in RDR was basically assembled using “digital duct tape” and that would exclude a PS4/X1 remaster too, since they would have to redo basically everything.
Shame seeing this game being tied to these old machines because “reasons”. :/
WTF is Digital Duct Tape?
Something like “this coding is a mess but F if we know how to fix it.”
You mean like Batman Arkham Knight. :p
Just ask UbiSoft, I think they invented Digital Duct Tape, lol
Bethesda’s engine in a nutshell.
I’ve heard this rumor as well especially since the PS3 was running at a lower resolution, frame rate, and AA than the already poor 360 res, frame rate and AA in GTA IV so it wouldn’t surprise me if they were still trying to fix the engine by the time RDR came out
yes it was not designed for pc as shown by gta iv, Max payne 3 shipped with the latest version of the rage engine beating gta v. So the pc version and ps4/xbone version of gta v run on the latest version of the engine optimized for x86.
I played a few hours of RDR on PS3 and then returned my copy to Gamestop. It was a good game but playing it on a console with a controller got tiring. All I could think of was that it’d be better on PC. Couldn’t sustain my attention.
Same for me but I played the Xbox 360 version and all I could think of was that this game would be absolutely stunning on PC. However it was still much better than the PS3 version.
It might’ve been the 360 version. I don’t remember. I had both consoles, though. The only games I finished were Bayonetta and Dante’s Inferno. They were playable and Bayonetta was great but all I could think of was how much better it would’ve been on PC.
The other games I got were RDR, God of War 3 and some other game that I forgot. Lost interest in GOW after a few hours. Same with RDR. I guess they’re good by console standards but GOW was typical console fare and RDR was hampered by the control scheme and substandard presentation. Just took me out of the experience.
I watch these consoles come and go and don’t regret watching them pass me by. I’m not going to lessen my gaming experience by locking myself in Sony/Microsoft’s walled gardens.
It’s not like there’s even some great barrier to entry to getting a console. Consolers think that PC gamers just don’t know how to go to Walmart and pay $300 to buy a stupid box. WE DON’T WANT IT.
The handful of exclusives they offer do nothing for me because they’re always the same old FPSs or hack and slashers or some cut-scene laden QTE fest. No thanks.
I can’t play Assassin’s Creed games with a pad. Okay, analog sticks give you more than only 8 directions that you are limited to with a keyboard.
So it theoretically should be better for that game than mouse + keyboard combination.
However, looking around with a stick is a too big chore for me compared to smooth and unhindered mouse movement.
I really couldn’t be a console gamer 🙂
i never played Redemption (7th generation) or Revolver (6th generation) so can’t comment on them but many of previous gen games felt forced. back in PS2 era it was more tamed and most games felt like a better fit for the console like Shadow of Colossus. only the likes of Snake Eater pissed me off cause i hated playing that kind of games with a controller.
I found it pretty borring. Would be good with mods though.
Oh, with mods it would’ve been awesome. It’s the limit of consoles. You play games the way the console makers want you to. I don’t want to be limited by anyone on my platform of choice.
even if it doesn’t come to PC, it really doesn’t matter. the xbox 360/ ps3 emulators are making pretty good progress, so it’s only a matter of time before RDR is playable on PC
ahahhah lol no, not even ps2 emulator works well.
ps2 emulator works fine. wtf are you talking about. i litterally played dbz budokai 3 the other day at 60 fps
My core I7 still can’t play ZoE 2 :^(
? i7. you gonna need a video card, no on board intel hd xxxx is gonna run it. i had no problem start to end and this upscaled resolution makes it look real nice, they even fixed the problem with SnowBlind games, finally get to play BG DA2 and not in software mode.
I have a video card GT 640 2gb ram. Some games ran smooth, others don’t
Nice to know they never had any intention of having a PC version of this game, because now I have no intention of giving them any of my money,
I hoped for this game to come to pc until i tried it on x360. What a boring game. I made it to the other side of river and then quit playing it. Very overated game in my opinion.
it takes hours to get to the godamn point.
True. I had nothing else to play at that time. But the mission where you are geting to the other side was the last straw.
Does it means that RDR aint getting a port for PC?
No.
If R* ceo and investor says: “shut up and just do it”….
then boy…im modding it dayONE at STEAM.
#RDRremasterFtW
Duh,,, it’s Rockstar.
Then F’ them and their game.
…and I have no intention of purchasing RDR 2 on PC.
everybody knew that!
F’ them 🙂
Who cares !
What year is this? Rockstar addressed this way back in 2011
poor pc last race..
It’s never coming to PC, they’re probably already working on a sequel so start wishing for that instead. Also why is he shocked they did a PC version of GTA V? Every other GTA game came to PC, and Rockstar claimed the PC version was planned from the beginning.
That is pretty much confirmed at that point but i wouldnt rule out a remaster.
I mean guys, dragon dogma gets a next gen hd remaster with a pc version.
“I mean that plastic box cost them money”
And what about the royality fees for consoles?
on steam those things dont exist, so essentially they make more money.
Steam have royalties (and GoG, and Origin…) Steam made money with every game sold on steam
PC Earnings Breakdown:
– Developer (if Independent)
– Publisher (if not Self-Publishing)
– Distributor (Brick & Mortar Store/Digital Retailer (Steam, Origin, uPlay, GoG, Rockstar Social Club)
-> This goes to the Publisher as well, if the Publisher owns the Distribution Network in question (ergo this is why EA only has their games on Origin now, this is why Ubisoft launched uPlay, this is why Rockstar launched RSSC, etc. – additional DRMs aside).
– Cost of packaging etc. (Physical-only)
Console Earnings Breakdown:
– Developer (if Independent)
– Publisher (if not Self-Publishing)
– Distributor (Brick & Mortar Store/Digital Console Store)
– Cost of packaging etc. (Physical-only)
– Cost of Patching (I believe this has been largely eliminated on the New-Gen Consoles, but it was a Console Industry Staple since the ’80s before, so yeah. Yes, this does mean what you think it means – Developers were paying Sony/Microsoft/Other to test their Patches, before they were allowed to Upload them. The Base Games too. Nintendo started this decades ago after a series of really broken Games came out in the Pre-Internet Patching Era)
– Cost of Console Royalties, usually waived on Platform-Exclusives, but not really anything else.
I won’t detail the % break down on each etc. because there really isn’t an accurate way to do so, it’s largely dependent on how well known the Studio is, how popular the Game is, etc. etc. etc. Publisher-owned Studios usually just get Salary Bonuses if the Game sells over X Copies. Assuming they’re willing to even let go of that much money from their Bank Accounts.
/care
This makes my bones rattle with disappointment. I would pay $100 for this game on PC, without hesitation.
Why do people who work in companies are idiots :I
Looking back on this in 2015 it seems incredible to think they never even considered a PC release. And stranger still that they haven’t recognised demand for it.
All games will end on pc no matter what they old with or with out the game devs help. I want to add there are game devs that use to work for big companies now jobless or have become indie game devs looking to get pc gamers to buy there games. Funny part is pc gamers made rockstar what they are today.
good exmple Cliff Bleszinski
Great
His nonsense statement is nonsense. Why would Rockstar not consider putting the game on a platform roughly one third of the gaming player base uses? They simply don’t want the sales? It is much more likely that those licensing agreements contain a console exclusivity clause combined with a non-disclosure agreement, and that is the real reason RDR isn’t on PC.
I don’t want to hear some apologist give me a “but its the code is not optimized LOLOLOL”. Rockstar managed to bring every other game to PC and there is no reason RDR is any different. It is the same engine as Max Payne 3, GTA IV, L.A. Noire, and GTA V. Coding is not the reason.
Just lower your settings.
I could and probably should.. but GTA5 looks so damn sexy. It’s really hard to do so. Its Crysis 1 all over again. I had a GTS 8800 and i had to lower some of the gfx in order to play the game smoothly, but guess what? I didnt. It looked way too good. 😛
God damn eye candy!
I can sacrifice 60 fps for eye candy, so long as it stays at 30 fps or so.
what a douche
Porting to PC is not worth the money …
Denuvo is future of PC game industry yet they dead too soon.
Stupid, but unsurprising. At the time it was made most developers and their close journalist and hardware manufacturer friends were subscribing to this very short-sighted view that consoles were “the future”, or something like that. Actually, they spent years and millions upon millions of dollars trying to throw pc-gaming-that-was under the rug and re-write reality. It’s not even close to being in great shape again, but the fact remains that PC gaming has survived the best efforts of giants like sony and MS to kill it for over a decade now. In the next ten years we’ll see which bastion of hardcore gaming holds out the longest against the oncoming mobile/F2P social game apocalypse. Rockstar can keep their dull fucking nature walk sims and go sulk on the losing side of history.
“I was actually really shocked that they did a PC version of Grand Theft Auto V. ”
The idiots that get hired in the AAA Video Game Industry & actually, somehow find themselves in High-Ranking Positions never cease to amaze me.
“I was actually really shocked that they did a PC version of Grand Theft Auto V”
F**k you, Kris Roberts.