A couple of days ago, Tripwire Interactive revealed that Killing Floor 2 would be also coming to Sony’s current-gen console. Naturally, a lot of PC gamers felt betrayed by Tripwire’s decision, which is why the company issued an official Q&A, addressing most of PC gamers’ concerns.
As Tripwire claimed, the lead platform for Killing Floor 2 is still the PC. Moreover, the game will be coming to the PC first (and there will also be a Steam Early Access program prior to its full release).
Furthermore, Tripwire claimed that the gameplay won’t be affected by the PS4 version, and that the PC version won’t be dumbed down.
“Short answer – heck no! Longer answer, the PS4 version has no impact on the gameplay of the PC version. PC is the lead platform, and the game will be separately tuned to play well on both the PC and the PS4. PS4 gamers are likely in for a harder game than they are used to. With that said, we feel many developers underestimate gamers on the consoles, and we feel that console gamers are ready for a challenge. Hell on Earth on PS4 will be HARD. With that said, the game will scale on easier difficulties for more casual gamers.”
Not only that, but the game’s PC visuals won’t be downgraded after the team’s decision to bring its title to Sony’s console (in short, don’t expect any ‘parity’ between them).
“Short answer – heck no! Longer answer, the PS4 is a powerful machine, much more powerful than the PC min spec. We’re not dealing with last gen consoles here. Honestly, last gen consoles created an annoying phenomenon. In the “old days” when a PC game came out and you cranked up all the graphics options and the game ran bad, you went out and upgraded your computer. In the past 5 years however so many games were developed with last gen consoles as the lead platform that they didn’t push modern computer hardware. So gamers got used to cranking the graphics options all the way up and getting 60FPS on their 4 year old PC (even though the games looked just like the console counterpart, or only marginally better). If a game came out that they couldn’t crank the graphics options up all the way on their 4 year old PC, they complained that the game was “poorly optimized”. Well I’m here to tell you KF2 will have some high end graphics options specifically for high end PCs (not all will necessarily be in when early access ships). Yes we are using UE3 (actually UE3.5), but it’s been heavily modified and modernized with some high end rendering features. The game will run well and look nice on reasonable PC hardware, but if you want to crank those graphics sliders up all the way make sure you have some high end PC hardware in your machine when the game ships.”
Regarding servers, there will be dedicated servers for the PC version, as well as a server browser.
Tripwire concluded that those not trusting them can wait for the PC reviews, and asked PC gamers to give them feedback instead of moan about what Killing Floor 2 could possibly turn into.
“If you are skeptical, don’t trust us. Wait for reviews, wait for a free weekend. Inform yourself before purchasing, it’s something you should do for any game purchase. What you shouldn’t do however is gripe and moan endlessly on what we “might” do or what your “worried we’ll do”. Give us feedback on what you’d like to see, give us feedback on what we’ve shown, and when you get your hands on the game give us feedback on what you like and what you don’t. But people speculating with their crystal ball (which more often than not has some storm clouds in it for some reason) doesn’t really contribute to the conversation.”
You can read the full Q&A here.
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I remember once a different dev said pc was lead platform and it didn’t turn out that was the case so I’ll believe it when I see it.
The b**ching was to be expected really, so many great PC franchises have been ba***rdised for console gamers over the years. I like Tripwires attitude on this and have every faith in them.
And you think PC gamers aren’t right to fear this? Sony will do anything possible to make sure PC version is inferior to what it can be. Even if they have to distract the developers every single day, to prevent them from delivering a good PC experience.
I’m not saying they won’t deliver a good PC game, just that this was a really shoddy move and they should have waited the PS4 announcement until they had the PC early access going.
Bad move is bad.
Good in the meantime digital foundry confirmed that uncharted 4 was downgraded and the visuals arent what we expected them to be, but i am sure dualshockers will call that site a “trash site” that “doesnt have a clue about graphics” as well.
To be honest custscene was not downgraded too much.
Teaser on e3 2014 was a cutscene that was rendered on ps4 in realtime.
http://cs624320.vk.me/v624320883/d087/bqOKXy_GXkc.jpg
Character faces were not downgraded much you mean.
I mean Naughty Dog sad, that E3 teaser was rendered on PS4 in realtime. They did not sad “this is what gameplay will looks like”.
Anyway, cutscenes always looks better than gameplay.
Not to that extent though, maybe in a select of game that you can tell they are pre rendered, so much for sony fanboys thiking the game will look like that.
Ryse has pre-rendered cutscenes and they look awersome. like good Cgi.
I am not sure about that.
not like very expensive cgi) Like something from middle range)
On consoles, yes.
and that it’s in pre alpha
It’s good that you understand it, because most of the people out there don’t. They think if it was rendered in real time in a cutscene, then they will see these visuals in gameplay too.
When the truth is, cutscenes are always looks better, because you usually see only one or two characters in it. Everything that’s not in the view of the camera is sliced off, and freed performance is used to make these characters detailed as much as possible through lod and streaming.
which btw appear in cutscenes with superior 3ds models than in gameplay like most games.
they remove the Fly!! downgraded confirm!!! no buy!! 😛
Pls slap yourself and go play in traphic.
so digital foundry posted a analysis that the game is downgraded, but i should go play in “traphic”
Yeah makes perfect sense.
For anyone who doesnt get it, this guy is a dualshockers shill. I checked his history.
So yeah your friendly sony slave called guissepe nelva who banned me for posting the link, called all the sties that made those comparisons “Trash” and said they got no idea what they talking about nor understand graphics. Is that clown now gonna say that digital foudnry is a trash site that doesnt understand graphics?
The game was downgraded admit it and move on, next time dont believe that sony is god and that wouldnt happen.
You sony fanboys need to stop damage controling for sony and get out of your little cult called dualshockers and face reallity for a change.
Dualshockers – the cesspit of internet gaming sites. My god, i’ve seen crappy sites before, but that one, the management, the users, the owner, my god the owner is so out there. Amusing site to read, nonetheless
Never forget this clown does PUBLIC RELATIONS for the site by arguing in the site, n4g, neogaf and trashing people in twitter, there is gamersgate and sjws, and then they are fanboy shilling clowns that think they can just post nonsense and proclaim themselfs journalists.
After the seeing reaction of banning people for posting links to sites do graphical analysis so his little cult doesnt get exposed to truth and then proceeding on trashing those sites until digital foundry puts a similar article which resulted into damage controling with “uncharted 4 looked diffirent a week before ps experiance” I will never take that site seriously again, even neogaf banned it for spreading lies and clickbait rumors.
I have more trust in Tripwire than any other developer out there. I KNOW they’ll give us PC gamers the sequel we’ve been looking forward to with Killing Floor 2. I also own a PS4 and will gladly buy it on there as well. I want to reward companies that treat their customers fairly, unlike the EA’s and Ubisofts of the world.
The amount of post launch content Tripwire gives its customers for free is more akin to the old golden days of PC gaming, before the dark days of paid DLC. I know even Tripwire has gone this route, BUT not with content like maps or gameplay. I think Tripwire has also learned their lesson about rushing releases(ie Red Orchestra 2). The testing period for Rising Storm was extensive. Once Rising Storm was fully released, it was very stable because of all that testing.
pc gamers felt betrayed? really?
When Doom 1 was ported to consoles. I’m sure they had to reassure the PC Crowd that the game wouldn’t get any enhanced features to make the ‘Original PC gamers’ feel out of place and feel betrayed. Reassuring them that they’re special is important for cross-platform and multiplatform development when PC is involve 😛
Heh heh heh.
YOu talk a lot of sh!t, because Im pretty sure that exclusive DLCs for Sony consoles on multiplatform games makes Sony drones like you to feel very special, ;). Go back to IGN or Polygon…
Allow me to point you up to my First post above:
“inb4 I’m told I’m not a PC Gamer for rustling a joke towards PC ‘Gamers’ and that I must be a console peasant.”
Learn to read you salty little scrub. I never even mentioned which console I own, or which I like or dislike, but you jump to a silly conclusion that I’m a ‘Sony Drone’ because I hurt your feelings, Mufffinnnn~!
LOL, I remember pretty well when Tomb Raider was announced for Xbone, then Sony drones felt “betrayed”, do you remember that?
Doesn’t make any of them less insecure
It’s not about feeling being betrayed. Its about the fear getting a dumbeddown, restricted console port.
Given it’s tripwire i didn’t have much fear about getting the short stick.
It’s funny how each time there’s a PC game that suddenly goes on a console during development. You ALWAYS, ALWAYS have to see the developer have to constantly reassure and cushion the PC Fanbase who’re clearly worried sick enough to have the developers tell them what they seem to ‘NEED’ to hear. Does anyone else not find this funny? I’m sure saying something like this would upset a good handful of overly-sensitive kiddies but hey, it’s funny.
“Don’t worry, we won’t dumb down the PC version. Shhhhhh, no need to fret, cry or get filled with scepticism caused by your mistrust in everyone.” – Just accept their words that you’re number one in their hearts and won’t betray you cause you’re special for being a PC gamer <3
Also, inb4 I'm told I'm not a PC Gamer for rustling a joke towards PC 'Gamers' and that I must be a console peasant.
It’s not funny, it’s sad.
Sure some people/fans go out of their way to make their voices heard that they obviously care very much about their version of the game for their preferred platform.
Why?
In many cases,escpecially from ”AAA” developers that cut corners and lied to all their customers about the lead platform etc. Released a shoehorned consoled port with non avalaible PC specific features and options, that are standard since the 90’s.
On another view.
Look at what happens when so called potato exclusive release on PC like Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Tomb Raider; GTA V comes to PC and all the final fantasy games plus Metal Gear Solid.
People go batshit crazy and make petitions to not release PC versions. Both sides have their idiots which make the loudest noise.
I find your post to be pretty one-sided and i could see why some people would accuse you of being a peasant in disguise.
Happy gaming. Non the less.
I understand what you mean, but it’s still funny to me. Like, it’s fine enough if a fan tried to ask and hope for the best, and that maybe their favourite developer, studio or video game series are taken seriously – but being consoled or sympathized or reassured doesn’t change the developers stance on whether or not those responsible will f*ck the game up or their plan was always from the beginning to make a legitimate game. Whining doesn’t make a studio think “Gee, these guys are really passionate for our game and they’re complaining with the hope and message that they want us not to f*ck it up or begin rotting one version because we’re making it on another platform now!” – It’s not like staff are going to consciously or unconsciously ‘forget to make the PC version good, better, or equal’ to other versions or to halfa*s it xD. That’s just illogical and paranoid. Mistrust the ones that have already betrayed your trust….not EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPER EVER, even without them having a history at all of betrayal or indecency in game development. Logic over emotions.
Not like Tripwire are ‘AAA’ devs anyways, they’re borderline Indie-devs.
Course, each ‘camp’ has its extremists, my post merely is prodding fun at One of them – as this article is relating only to one of them. If an article were relating to how I could make fun of others camps, then I join along with it if I feel it’s necessary. This isn’t like one of the situations where you think it’s justifiable to ‘call me out as one-sided’ simply because of it being situational, look at my post history even. I was talking to someone else regarding Uncharted 4 and about how I see that it was downgraded without any stuttering.
It’s only ‘One-sided’ to those who have insecurities and immerse themselves too much in these petty little online disputes where a post like mine could actually legitimately ‘offend them’, which was my point in laughter because it’s simply a visible scenario. I’d ask you if you have any idea how many times people love to, amongst the ‘PC camp’ attack ANYONE and everyone who simply makes jokes against PC gaming/games even when insults or indirect and very light – PC camp goes balistic and then jumps the gun on every insult possible about accusing that you must be a console peasant, make it a social experiment, I dare you. Go to a PC-related/heavy article on DSOG, make a ‘semi-insulting post’ to rattle the PC camp – I bet you any money you’ll be attacked by people who’ll INSIST you’re a console peasant even if you know 100% that you aren’t XD
Hey John, have you read this http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/08/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-release-date-delayed-again
I loved Killing Floor 1 can’t wait for this one!
I will take their own advice and wait for the reviews…
as long they don’t dumb down the pc for stupid hardware then fine.
Been checking up on tripwire and the Dev team is still a buncha PC gamer’s so I expect no “downgrade” or console port for KF2
They did a good job at addressing people’s concerns about dumbing down and downgrading. It’s good decision to release it as PC Exclusive and focus on PS4 after that. I also understand people’s concerns because so many PC titles were ruined when devs went multiplatform and TBH, I am worried about Witcher 3 and my expectations are low.
I heard this somewhere before.. So I will use this advice.
Funny thing is, if not the PS4 port it would be an insta-buy for me, even in Early Access.
You mean Battlefield 3?
Wat?
Battlefield 3 was touted as being a “PC primary game” early in development. Then the developers at DICE realized, “Oh $#&%, this game has to run on consoles too.” So it became one of those games that are picked apart and everything rolled back to support a multiplatform release. Map sizes were condensed, textures went to -blam!-, the amount of vehicles was lessened, destruction was removed, environments became static, particle effects were dumbed down, and gameplay stagnated into a close quarters run and gun brawl on small, over crowded, round maps.
Dark Souls II would suffer the same fate when its developers severely cut back on the final version in order to support the Xbox 360 and PS3.
Not sure what to say. I never was into BF games, as well as CoD. I guess I’m just too old for all this shooter PvP stuff. So, I never really cared about what happened with this game. Killing Floor is a different beast though, it’s a cooperative PvE game.
I actually meant Dark Souls 2. They said from the beginning that “PC is the main platform”, and I have a different story in mind about what happened. I doubt you will be interested, so I’ll just say that it wasn’t their first console game, and they were perfectly aware of what X360 and PS3 can or cannot do.
PvP and PvE are the same, one uses real players another bots. Big whoop.
Also, there is no doubt in the alterations of the original gameplay demo from Dark Souls II and the final product.
Lastly, the devs will not know what the hardware is capable of until they get a working build on their DK systems and attempt optimizations. So they can build this great game only to scale it back later on in development.
tripwire !!! best devs i have seen in the last 6/8 years