A couple of days ago, CD Projekt RED revealed that it has sold 4 million copies of The Witcher 3: Wild on all platforms. Naturally, we were really interested in the PC sales and today we can safely say that PC gamers embraced CDPR as it appears that almost one third of the overall sales were from the PC.
As CD Projekt RED noted today, almost 700 thousand gamers worldwide have gone with GOG Galaxy. According to the company, 693,000 gamers worldwide are owners of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on GOG Galaxy, whereas 613,000 PC gamers have chosen a different PC platform. This basically means that the game has sold 1.3 million copies on the PC.
In order to put things into perspective, this means that one third of the overall sales were from the PC (that’s of course if PS4 and Xbox One had equals sales).
Now that’s definitely good news for everyone, especially those who were claiming that the PC version of The Witcher 3 sold poorly (based solely on Steamspy’s numbers).
Enjoy!
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A cool 1/3 of sales? I’m not even remotely surprised 🙂
I guessed 1.5 Million in the previous article about The Witcher 3 sales which is not that bad a guess actually maybe I should become a gaming sales analyst like everyone’s favorite Michael Pachter.
Don’t forget PC sales will remain steady for years to come while the console sales will greatly decline as more and more used copies come into circulation.
this means the PC sales alone were enough to suport the entire production cost and marketing of the entire game. And then some nice profit. Well, how about that, peasant people that believe consoles are the alpha and omega of gaming and pc would be dead without them ?
Even if you assume 1.4 million copies at $59.99 (USD) that is only $83 million. If it cost $35 million to market and $32 million to make the game with only $16 million profit that is a game that will not probably be made again based on gross profits alone. It doesn’t even take into consideration taxes and so on. They developers have even said the game would not have been made without the console versions.
they wouldn’t need to market it half as much if it was for PC exclusive or PC first 😛
Not to mention that this game will sell tons more on PC, esp after we start getting more sophisticated modding tools and methods working.
@Amith Thomas:disqus
The developer and publisher would be STUPID to leave money on the table. PC is a great platform to play games on, it’s not the only platform. Consoles are great platforms to and give you a great bang for your buck. Developers and publishers have a duty to maximize their revenues that gives them freedom to invest in future projects. How can you not understand such basic economic principles unless you are some kind of PC Elitist Marxist?
Because the future project will also be compromised in quality by a hindered product (as to not overshadow the consoles) and false advertisement/downgrades.
Completely the opposite that got them to where they got. You don’t need to screw clients over to get the buck. They are proof of that.
@disqus_YpMmZPncik:disqus
For one the compromises that were made seem minimal at best. You PC Elitist should be glad the PS4 and XBONE exist it means better games for the PC since the basement specs have risen significantly.
The fact is developers and publishers don’t have endless budgets to create games for players that have $2500+ gaming rigs. It would severely limit their ability to get a return on their investment if they catered to such a niche crowd.
minimal my a@@, face it the newconsoles are GARBAGE.
” should be glad the PS4 and XBONE exist it means better games for the PC since the basement specs have risen significantly.”
Bullcrap
1.They are both weak pieces of trash and already hit limitations.
Consoles limit games not make their development easier or better, thats why you kept seeing corridor shooters last gen.
2.Consoles have simplier control schemes and less innovation and complexity.
3.The specs have not risen, a 400$ pc can run games just as well as ps4, if anything it proves how behind consoles are.
The fact you say 2500$ pc proves how clueless you are and you even claimed in the past that you are some computer enigneer or some other stupid lie that you usually say.
The fact that publishers dont have endless budget is why they should have gone with pc, pc development is cheaper, everyone knows this.
What exactly is a “niche” crowd?
Millions are “niche” now?
” a 400$ pc can run games just as well as ps4 ”
lololololololololol
Love to read this butthurt comments. <3
2 things:
First, to upvote your own comment is just too desperate.
Second: HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha……here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGf4SVWEw2g
Watch and cry knowing that this is common knowledge.
Edit: If you don’t know what is that PC build, it is Digital Foundry’s budget PC, it cost between $300 to $400.
where is the operating system in this build?? Pls try again.
install steamOS for free, or you can buy a one time install win8.1 for near 10$
Check steam, most games can now run Steam OS (absolutely free). But if you’re really into Windows OS (with very good reason too), I’ll tell you what, you can buy that software with the money you save in the price of the games…. unless you can get Batman Arkham Knight for less than $40 on POS4 (you can read the article of it in this site…..and cry….).
Imagine that, better, cheaper and interactive….Has to be bad, right? Peasants trying to undermine. I’ll tell you what, let’s even concede $100 bucks for it all. Let’s say $500 for it all and see you squirm with “Who cares about graphics”…. and then bashing XBONE for being inferior. Pathetic at its best, SONY highly appreciates your devoted stupidity and subservience.
Edit: And in 2 years, the same money will give new PC gamers a better experience and you will still have a semblance of PC, hoping against hope that POS5 comes out to save you… only to see that the gap distance just keeps increasing. But hey, they’re “adding value” to your POS experience.
PS4 users crying over downgrade, now this is a historical event. Why don’t they tell Pony to stop forcing devs to run their games on 1080p when their next gen crap simply can’t handle it.
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/46674-Patch-ps4-1-04-downgrade
keep upvoting your self peasant. and yes you can assemble a 400$ PC which is much better and stonger than those crapboxes.
really?
Steam average users:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
It hurts, doesn’t it? That more than 50% of the pcs are a whole lot weaker than the ps4 and xbox one? 🙁 And no, you can not assamble a pc for 400 $. You forgot the mouse/keyboard/speakers/windows? Monitor? And dont tell me you need a TV for the console because EVERY household already has one
A TV is a monitor and speakers…. or didn’t you know something so basic? And keyboard/mouse is already in the Digital Foudry’s build.
“Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous.” You have no idea how many users can or cannot play the game and PC gamers don’t want it any other way. We have a word in what our machine does, unlike peasants.
How pathetic.
To always resort to these stupid arguments after hearing the same thing over and over. Peasant indeed.
PLease tell me what games do you play? WoW? LoL? WHere are the high budget exclusives for the PC? You want to say star citizen? HAHHAAHAH, if you want an AAA you need to fund it yourself? SO sad. It just proves how low you fall
HAHAHAHA, AAA games. Like what? The same FIFA? The same COD? The same Assassin’s Creed? Maybe Destiny (basically an MMO that doesn’t have the courage to just tell you)?
If it weren’t for PC getting actual creators of content, you would never get a Witcher 3. But your peasant mind will let you forget this and in a few days, you’ll be saying the same thing hoping you might find a PC gamer that will concede….. good luck with that futile endeavour of trying to get people into the filthy sty that is POS4 with you. Is it getting lonely? It will get more.
Did you just line up MULTIPLATFORM games? Nice logic. Which games? Bloodborne, you know, one of the GOTY pretenders this year. The uncharted series, you know, the games who won dozens of GOTY’s, The last of us. You know the best game ever according to more than 200 hundred goty awards. God Of War, Infamous, Red Dead redemption ( yeah you still havent played that rockstar hit have you? :(( ), MGS, LBP… I could go on for days… Witcher 3 wouldn’t exist without PC? That’s why the DEVELOPERS said if Witcher 3 was an exclusive for PC they would release it? HAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAH You will always be the last garbage taking care of
You poor deluded fool, believing that a few exclusives matter. At least one person likes the stupidity coming out of your mouth (Too bad it is you). I know, I know. The POS is great, it is light… with such wonderful exclusives that no one cares about 2 months later. Even speedrunners stick to DarkSouls. And all those exclusives will run in a PS3 emulator, because PC saves games. I can play games from my beloved PS2 in my PC better than my PS2 ever could. And, in time, I will be able to play PS3 games in 4k resolution. You? You’ll get a “remastered” for full price. Good luck with that POS, peasant.
PS3 emulator??? Hmmm.. WHere is it? You wait a dozen years and still no emulator in sight? Nice. SO you expect a ps4 emulator in maybe a dozen years too?? Ok, enjoy you’re waiting while i play The Last Guardian and Horizon, you know the GOTY’s you’ll never play. 😉
Don’t worry, I will wait playing the games better than you ever will. I will wait for PS3 emulator to play those games as games should be played, with great graphics at decent frame rates. In the meantime, you will never get a console that will ever even come close to PC. The time as passed and the difference is only getting bigger. Your POS experience might get 4k in 20 years…. when the PC standard will be 12k, with mods and all the freedom we deserve. Unlike peasants who eat what is handed down to them.
funny how you upvote your own comments :))
“more than 50% of the pcs are a whole lot weaker than the ps4 and xbox”
which mean 50% of the PCs are a whole lot stonger than those potatos, also 50% of 130million = 65million. not to mention those 50% have something you can’t even imagin, it’s called OPTIONS.
“you can not assamble a pc for 400 $”
lol you can. digital foundry did it and it’s more powerfull.
“forgot the mouse/keyboard/speakers/windows? Monitor?”
you forgot about TV for your consoles which is more expensive than thing you mentioned (combined) .
“because EVERY household already has one”
nope, it belong to the house, that means anybody wants to use it so it and with this so called new gen consoles you need a better 1080p tv if you had an old HDTV.
You failed math in high school didn’t you? 50% of the pcs are MUCH weaker, not just ”weaker” than the consoles, meaning (using comon logic) that at LEAST 70% pcs are at or below the level of a console, furthermore as consoles are locked down and coded to the case a PC with the same power with the console gets worse perfomance. So yes, even if there werent any consoles games would be coded the same because no one will give away the potential 70% of the customers just because there are some mustard race triple titan x guys who want to have an excuse why they spend so much on power but can’t use it. Even in eastern europe almost every household has a hdtv, it’s 2015. Considering that, I doubt there is less than 90% in USA that have the same. ANd more expensive? Not really, you can buy a full hd 1080p tv for 250 dollars today. 😉
Learn your facts before you speak.
wow stupid, here is a thing:
“a PC with the same power with the console gets worse perfomance”
not at all, some games lords of the fallen for example, have pc friendly engines and that closed box or optimization on consoles are just s**t and proven wrong before.
“that at LEAST 70% pcs are at or below the level of a console”
nope, don’t made things out of your a** and as i said before on PC you have somthing called option. but logic don’t apply to s**theads like you.
“no one will give away the potential 70% of the customers just because there are some mustard race triple titan x”
again crysis and soon starcitizen and metro games etc… you don’t have to give away the potential customers, in PC there is a thing called graphic options. crysis 1, no one could run it with steady fps more than 30fps but it was the most successful game in it’s franchise even more successful than the rest of the series which were released on consoles too. see ? open your eyes peasant.
“Even in eastern europe almost every household has a hdtv, it’s 2015”
they are more poor people in the world than mid class or rich, so not even half of the houses in the world have such a luxury, also you can connect your PC to your TV, if it’s your logic then monitors are free on PC, problem solved.
“I doubt there is less than 90% in USA that have the same”
2.5 million children were homeless in usa in 2013. they are more and it’s getting worst. count adult homeless too and you get your number. so no, not even close to numbers you pulled from your a**.
“you can buy a full hd 1080p tv for 250 dollars today”
you can buy a 1440p monitor for 300$ or 1080p monitors with less than 200$
“Learn your facts before you speak”
if you don’t know s**t then GTFO
@disqus_qtwWY6WbZi:disqus
Can we temper this vitriol. There is a reasonable discussion in here if you guys can drop the nonsense.
Furthermore, there are more than 250 million users on steam, and only 1.3 bought witcher? IMPRESSIVE INDEED!
You can buy the Witcher 3 on Steam, GOG, Green Man Gaming or other retailers. Unlike your POS4, PC gamers can choose who they do business with and steam doesn’t cover it all (although it is getting about 10 million new users every year, equating a 15% growth per year).
they are 130 million users are on steam, don’t forget about bayonetta, more than 180m console users and less than a million copies in more than a year. lol
Comparing bayonetta to witcher? Nice.
f**k off you stupid little s**t
I see you are unable to provide arguments like a normal adult. Probably because you are a small retarded child hiding in your mom’s basement. Sad. 🙁
F off s**thead, arguments ? you are just a F’ing troll. your mom gave you birth with her a*us instead of v**na, stupid f**k
Someone is angry.
i don’t get angry kid, this is how i speak to d**kheads
do ressearch it has been proven it can run just as well as a ps4. That is how weak your consoles are.
@daka54:disqus
You continue to flatter me. I feel like I have a little shadow. Sure you can’t hardly complete a sentence and your words make you sound like you are in the fourth grade. It’s good to know I have some fans out there! If you give me your address I will send you a signed photo!
Your 3 points amount to nothing but a subjective opinion.
My point is a fact. Fact PS3/X360 had 512MB of RAM, fact PS4/XB1 have 8GB of RAM — this is a larger canvas for developers to paint with. So today ports to a PC will start with code that was more robust than the last generation.
Please tell me how using $2500 as an example price point weakens my arguments in any way? Sure I understand that a $1000 PC can do a damned good job with gaming, but it certainly won’t hold a candle to the system that cost $2500.
Do you keep notes on me man? Have you ever considered that maybe your fascination with me is a mental health issue?
Yes I work with computers, yes I help design systems. Yes I understand hardware. Yes I understand software. I won’t give you any proof of this because I don’t want someone from the internet who seems very mentally unstable to attempt to find me in real life. I know you are my #1 fan so my apologies for this prudence but you have to understand I do have a life to lead outside of gaming. 🙂
Furthermore I don’t have to prove anything to you because you generally respond with ad hominem attacks. When you do try to make a point it’s often riddled with so many spelling, punctuation and proper sentence formation errors you don’t even convey intelligence.
Who is everyone? LOL
I don’t see how PC is any cheaper to develop for than any other platform. The fact is PC has little to no barriers against piracy and any one of your PC software buyers can become an unauthorized Distribution Point via piracy.
So even if your claims of “PC development is cheaper” is 100% true the ability to recoup your cost on development is marred by the abilities of your customers to copy and distribute their game.
In this sense Niche means…
– a specialized but profitable corner of the market.
Yes millions can be Niche.
EXAMPLE: Millions still use BlackBerry, but it is a niche market compared to iPhone and Android.
TLDR: You think i got time for your nonsense peasant?
Dont bother me in E3, Till then go lick sonys D some more and as always you know nothing about tech or game development so cut the crap.
The new consoles are garbage as this E3 pointed out the graphics have not increased much, DEAL with it and as far as sales go, this e3 proves that new ips are almost dead in order to make more money.
“PC Elitist”
F**k off peasant
@disqus_gqfuA0S0Wi:disqus
When you are mad that a game is released on Consoles and PC that makes you a PC Elitist in every sense of the term. I am not even saying it as a cut down, just an observation.
Peasants can’t afford consoles, I could buy a PC if I wanted to, I choose not to. Peasants have no choice but to be a peasant.
The term console peasant is just an oxymoron that doesn’t hold up to basic intellectual scrutiny.
“When you are mad that a game is released on Consoles”
i’m not mad, actually i support multiplat games.
“The term console peasant is just an oxymoron”
no, people who play games on consoles are not peasants, people who play games on consoles and call it better than PC are called peasants.
They get far more money than they spend, that is why AAA games go off the handle in spending and there is no effort to restrain. Again, CDProjektRED did a far better game with far less spending than most AAA games out there.
You’re looking at gaming as a business, one that has the bottom dollar as the goal, not client satisfaction. In the end, that is corrosive to the gaming industry. You want to make the consoles as a progressive promoter that helps the gaming industry grow, but all console centered developers only want derivative iterations of games being sold every year the same sh**e with a different “skin”. COD, Assassin’s Creed, sports and so much more are all made to come out every year giving nothing to the client but a desire to see their effort bring fruition in the next iteration. Consoles bring nothing good to the gaming industry. And now, thanks to a generation that actually know how to use a PC, consoles are seeing their “world” coming down on them. To such a point that they try to be a PC experience in the living room…. Glad to see them going away. Too bad it is not faster.
Going away? Thats why EVERY game is sold much more on consoles than on PC ( just look at last generation ). You tend to pirate a lot, Calling console users peasants when you are the reale peasants with no money to actually buy a game, or to cheap to buy it full price. Consoles going away??? Um… This generation is the fastest selling console generation, ever. Stupid too much?
And isn’t it sad when the difference went from over 9x over on PS3 alone vs PC, to barely above in the first couple of weeks (games continue to sell on PC for a long time). It is going away, faster and faster. In 3 years, PC will be 4k standard and getting only bigger. You POS, will be the same sty for peasants.
Nevermind. Dont play wise, capitalist boy.
Apparently you missed the part where the developers said if they didn’t make the game for the consoles they wouldn’t have been able to afford to make the game at all. Therefore, this PC only game idea is fantasy. Regardless of any game being PC only you still essentially buy games from the same channels and therefore marketing wouldn’t change all that much in how you promote the game.
no AAA game would be made this day without mass appeal and sales. But witcher 3 on pc did pretty good.
Well that’s the thing, modern games development has become so expensive that it doesn’t make good business sense to restrict your game to only one platform. Remember the 90’s where developers were lining up to make their games exclusive to one platform or another as they enjoyed building a relationship up with the platform holder, well that’s all gone now. Even the console exclusives which are funded by some of the money Sony or Microsoft has made from taxing third party developers via license fees are now few and far between and they only exist to advertise and sell the console so that gamers will buy the console and then continue to buy third party games on it so that Sony or Microsoft can collect their royalties via license fees they charge these third party developers.
Even when we get good PC exclusives that sell well and make profit there is a chance they will end up on console as there is no one locking them down as PC exclusive and even more money is better than lots of money. Even the 12 million selling Diablo3 was ported to consoles.
I think Valve should be using some of the money it makes from cuts of sales on Steam to fund some PC exclusives in an effort to attract more new gamers to PC as this would have them buying more games on Steam which Valve takes a cut from.
That or Intel and NVIDIA should get together and fund some PC exclusives to advertise and sell their hardware.
As such PC is very healthy regardless and everyone wants to jump on and make as much money as possible from least amount of effort.
The reason games were exlusive back then was because multiplatform development didnt exist, that is why depending the version of the game, you got a radically diffirent game which was remade from scratch.
@qqq31:disqus
We only have a small amount of data about the over all sales and if PC was the best selling platform that still doesn’t mean that the Developer wants to leave profits on the table because PC Elitist like you think that PC is the ONLY platform to play on.
Don’t be so obtuse and uninformed. Developers and publishers want to make money. As long as they have profits and competition to motivate them we should have good games to play. Your 1 size fits all world is a fantasy.
” you think that PC is the ONLY platform to play on.”
Said the sony corporate slave gimp.
“Don’t be so obtuse and uninformed.”
Said the “ps4 has some sony secret sauce in it”
Despite the fact that perfoms more or less like a similar pc and your “optimization” isnt coming.
Even the order devs said they can achieve those graphics on pc, xbone and a “anounounced console”
“Developers and publishers want to make money.”
“As long as they have profits and competition to motivate them we should have good games to play”
Those 2 arguments are in direct opposition, look at cod and destiny, good games? Nah, just hype, look at what assasin creed has turned into.
“Your 1 size fits all world is a fantasy.”
Said the sony fanboy who cant accept xbone is worth a crap.
@daka54:disqus
This is simply a 100% ad hominem attack. Technically you have forfieted your “intelligent” argument right here. Need I remind you I don’t work for Sony? Furthermore I don’t wear leather, so your imbecilic and sophomoric comments don’t win you any points to anyone who favors reasonable discussion. Your PC Peanut gallery will enjoy your comedy but they are already your allies. 🙂
All systems created outside of open architectures generally have some unique things about them that the manufacturers put there that is what secret sauce is (it’s a nod to the Big Mac). That doesn’t mean it remains secret forever or even that long (everyone knows the Big Mac sauce is basically Thousand Island Dressing).
I have to say I am pretty flattered that this comment has been cemented into your mind. It definitely plays to my ego that you remember that for so long. I am proud that I have left a mark on you. 🙂
Your spelling and punctuation is atrocious. Even beyond that you don’t seem to always have the ability to convey a complete thought. Feel free to expand on this gibberish as it stands it doesn’t make any sense.
Again your poor spelling and lack of articulation has made your remarks a mystery to me.
There is really no excuse for poor spelling these days it amounts to just flat out laziness (not a cut down, just an observation).
As long as developing games is a profitable venture and there is competition out there to make good games we the players will have many choices of good games to play.
Not all games will be good in all gamers eyes, all of that is subjective to the gamer. The fact that COD, Destiny and Assassins’ Creed games do sell well suggests that there are millions that approve of the games and pay for them because they like them. No one is holding a gun to your head when you buy a video game.
I don’t like COD because I don’t think it’s a good game, I can catalog a huge list on why it’s subpar. However that doesn’t mean that the rest of the game buying public agrees with me. Having that level of understanding takes some maturity and empathy that I am not convinced that you are capable of.
If games were not that profitable there would be less developers out there. Less competition would insure fewer games, fewer games would mean fewer options so it would be harder for the average gamer to find “good games” because of the smaller amount of games to choose from.
I have always maintained that PlayStation consoles provides the best bang for your buck. It’s not tons of kids games like Nintendo and it’s not overloaded with FPS games (I will grant that PS4 has a heavier load of shooters).
This generation there is ample evidence that can’t really be refuted about which platform is more powerful PS4 or XBONE. That debate is over.
What I find to be quite amazing is you have to shoe-horn your Pro-XBOX fanboyism into a discussion about the Witcher 3 PC sales and yet you turn around and call me the Sony Corporate Gimp.
You are a textbook hypocrite my friend.
TLDR: Peasnt keep suckings sony D, you will always be a stupid little fanboy with no life.
@daka54:disqus
Declares the assclown that never actually forms a valid argument. You wouldn’t know what an intelligent argument was if it came up and took a dump on your head.
If it wasn’t for your over entitled ego likely brought on by parents who convinced you that you were a special little butterfly you would likely have nothing to say at all.
Go ahead and respond to this comment and prove to everyone you have no intellectual capabilities and that you are a complete assclown. 🙂
TLDR you never had an argument kid.
The only one who has no intelectual capabilities is you, i still laugh at “hur dur ps4 has some secret sony sauce in it”
BAHAHAHA no, sony cant fix weak hardware, uncharted 4 was downgarded and the E3 demo was filled with bugs.
You even lost no mans sky, coming out on pc at the same day as cosnoles.
Admit it the new consoles are utter jokes.
I’m a PC gamer, but you’re a f’ing loser.
>outside of open architectures generally have some unique things about them that the manufacturers put there that is what secret sauce is (it’s a nod to the Big Mac).
the only thing that is special outside of open software and hardware is restricting the user from the very thing that he or she purchased.Its fine if you want a big mac but dont tell me that having no right to add your own sauce or condiments to your big mac is a good thing.
>There is really no excuse for poor spelling
Its apparent you evading the argument at hand just to criticize his grammar, all you are doing is telling everyone that you are pretending to have a counter argument.
>If games were not that profitable there would be less developers out there. Less competition would insure fewer games, fewer games would mean fewer options so it would be harder for the average gamer to find “good games” because of the smaller amount of games to choose from.
Wrong, so explain what competition there is for low budget indie games? tell me how minecraft was competing with another game in its infancy or tell me how any game is competing because from what i understand developers dont give a shit if their game is doing better than x.
Game development isnt a competition between other developer/publishers or game franchises, tell me what credibility do you have to support this?
>I have always maintained that PlayStation consoles provides the best bang for your buck.
dont make me laugh
>It’s not tons of kids games like Nintendo
when was nintendo for kids? do you have any idea how many adults play the wiiu? i mean you shoul d look at the core demographic for wiiu is from ages 18-34.Only someone underaged would say something as uneducated as that.
>I will grant that PS4 has a heavier load of shooters
Sorry man but anyone claiming to have a “heavier load of shooters” but uses a controller to play an fps game… i mean that is an indication for nobody to take anything you say seriously.
>What I find to be quite amazing is you have to shoe-horn your Pro-XBOX fanboyism into a discussion about the Witcher 3 PC sales
Where did he make any fanboyism of xbox?
I suppose this is what happens when parents fail to supervise their kid’s internet time.
I read “PC Elitist” and am wondering why are you here at the home of PC games.
@noblealfred:disqus
The premise of the article is yet another testament to PC Elitism. I am free to comment here and offer my point of view and I think the author hasn’t exactly been objective and this article is more evangelism than journalism in my opinion. For reasons I have explained in other comments.
Because a lot of us use multiple platforms to play the games we love so we don’t miss out and hate the garbage that spews forth from the different factions…
Aren’t you the one saying they should make ports of games that should be exclusive to PC and feature remotely worthwhile kb/m control schemes instead of just controller support?
Because if you’re the one saying that, then I think YOU’RE the one living in the “1 size fits all world” fantasy.
@HisDivineOrder:disqus
Feel free to point out where I said this. I think you are mistaken me for someone else.
I have no bones with PC exclusives and I don’t care what kind of control scheme you use. That kind of stuff is up to the developer. If you are using standard retail / digital business model it would benefit revenues to release your games on as many platforms as possible. Without revenues you don’t get more games. So to me revenues are a good thing.
I am of the opinion that many in the PC Community that get upset about games that are multiplatform are reasoning that the consoles downgraded the game. If and when games get “downgraded” it stands to benefit lower end PCs as well. If developers shoot to high on the recommended specifications they limit their ability to recoup their investment.
This whole concept of games being downgraded is very subjective. The fact is game development prior to the release date is a fluid enterprise that is full of changes and without the changes the game would suck. If you are making games and features, levels, characters, etc. are not being cut you are likely going to release a very bad game. Good games often have tons of content that didn’t make it for release.
>If developers shoot to high on the recommended specifications they limit their ability to recoup their investment.
No because all the developers would have to do is set a side the time to optimize the game for lower end hardware or even create a separate build.
>This whole concept of games being downgraded is very subjective
explain your way out of this one pal.Its like you are trying to convince someone that a smaller scoop of ice cream is a better sized portion than bigger scoop of ice cream.
>release date is a fluid enterprise that is full of changes and without the changes the game would suck
You know the word change can be broken down into different terms such as progression and regression.
>If you are making games and features, levels, characters, etc. are not being cut you are likely going to release a very bad game.
There seems to be a disconnect with your comprehension between scaling a game concerning design and removing features for no rational explanation (features that are merely aesthetic) especially when these features are being marketed for an event like e3 when the game is already past development.No matter how you look at it, it’s still false advertisement.
What bothered some PCers is more that it came over to them like RED&community thinks gamers are only on console or pirates in a nutshell and they would not make any profit at all from PC sales. they didnt >really< say that but some people percieved it as such and felt personally insulted at the notion of their community being cheapo piraters. Has less to do with actual elitism…
People just want to have a rivality/fight for discussions sake.
but it’s now better, they sold more. multiplatform is great for any games specially if parity won’t happen to it
Multiplatform is great, but this piece of information only serves to show how much faith CDPR did NOT have on their original fanbase. They said that it would be too expensive for the game to be PC only, and that’s why they made it multiplatform.
And now it’s been pretty much confirmed that the game would quickly become profitable either way, PC only or not. Which makes it worse for them in the eyes of some of the fans, making such a bold claim like it was the unquestionable truth, only for it to be debunked three weeks later.
Purdy much.
I’m a PC player and a fan of the whole series and but honestly who cares. Who could blame a company for wanting to triple their sales? Developers aren’t charities. While there’s the whole “downgrade” complaint, the game runs great and looks great. I’m glad more people got to be exposed to such a great series. If you wanna talk about betraying a fan base I did fall for a $25 pre-order of Arkham Knight…
they need to make money, why would any developer stick to a single platform when they can make more money by developing on more than a single platform?
being a little too entitled there.
I’m not being entitled to a platform, what I don’t like, is when a company openly neglect their fanbase, and don’t show faith on the people who supported them since their humble start. I don’t give a sh*t about the game going multiplatform, my problem was CDPR lying and not delivering what they promissed to its entirety because they didn’t f’ing believe our money could pay for the game’s development cost.
Which has being proved otherwise right here in this piece of news.
They didn’t lie, they fully believed they couldn’t support their game on the pc only. Are you trying to tell them they didn’t believe that? Are you trying to tell them that their past numbers didn’t project these returns. This was an unseen anomoly and its great that they sold so many, but fuck off if you think any of this could be anticipated.
They hedged their bets because they were uncertain of being able to make true profite, and doing so they betrayed no one, they delivered an outstanding PC game and branched to other consoles, god forbid.
Furthermore while they may have sold gangbusters on the PC, they sold the other 2/3 of the bulk market on other consoles. Which means that they essentially trippled their market sales. You’re a retard.
i was actually let down by the pc release, more of that fact that the requirements are a bit unreasonable and considering that the graphics arent great (yeah i would say witcher 3 graphics arent as impressive as people are saying, i would say witcher 3 graphics is decent but cinsidering heavy performance issues, it leaves me dissapointed) and while i do agree that the culprit behind this is due to console releases of this game but you still cant blame cdpr for trying to be more commercial with their game and trying to have a wider audience, that is a lot of money and if i was a developer i would have a hard time passing off that many sales.
If you have workers to pay you cant take a sentimental gamble. Don’t be silly they don’t wish to insult their fanbase but they dont want to completely depend on them and also broaden their fanbase. Now they got the money they deserved even more for future games and they are probably happy people can still also afford to get the PC goodness. (After all Witcher 3 was quite demanding and not everybody can buy a gaming Pc).
And it will continue to sell for years to come. Also keep that in mind… Console sales are front loaded.
Wouldn’t surprise me if a load of consoles users have already traded it LOL
My area has a lot of PS4 guys selling brand new copies of TW3. It’s almost like they played the tutorial and were left unimpressed.
Resale doesn’t matter, all that really matters is the initial sale of the game. CDprojekt red does not profit from the resale market. Any resold game is profits going straight to gamestop. Almost all resale markets work like this, If i buy a car, a certain amount of the money goes to the manufacturer, say mercedes. If i then sell that car, I collect all the money (minus taxes depending on the region).
I’m sure PC gamers would do that too if it was possible and they weren’t just renting digital copies off Steam.
That also means 2.7 Million copies were sold on consoles. Keep that in mind.
This “peasants” thing is a joke, and not a funny one. PC AND consoles made gaming. There isn’t one that could be called the “savior” of gaming.
Consoles help a LOT because almost everyone who plays video games has at least one. On the other hand, not everyone has a gaming PC. There’s still a lot, for sure, me included, but let’s face it, if one market was to disappear, gaming would probably die. No matter which one/
idiot f**k
Hey, you again. How are you doing ? Still worked up for no reason ?
shut up troll and leave
peasant joke isn’t suppose to be funny, it is suppose to piss you off, and it works obviously cause you had to mention it.
consoles, were good once upon time, until Microsoft and Sony decided to consolize all genres in order to attract all sorts of customers. only Nintendo didn’t do that. that’s why Wii U and 3DS are the only real consoles these days.
how did consoles help the gaming industry in the past decade? by almost destroying RTS genre? almost destroying click and point adventures? almost destroying CRPG genre? simplifying shooters and RPGs? holding back technology advances?
Destroying RTS genre ? Total War, Starcraft 2, World In Conflict, Company Of Heroes 1/2… ? They did pretty great.
Click and Point adventures ? Book Of Unwritten Tales rings a bell ? Also, sadly, it just seems studios aren’t interested in old school PNC, just like they aren’t interested in platformers, apart from a few kickstarter campaigns, anymore, except for Telltale, but I wouldn’t call their games PNCs personally.
CDRPG almost destroyed ? Pillars of Eternity, Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, Legend of Grimrock 1 & 2…? Did pretty great as well.
Simplifying shooters ? What even ? How old school shooters were more complicated on PC ?
As for the RPGs, I don’t really see how the game I talked about earlier are so simple.
About holding back technology, why aren’t PC exclusives so amazingly advanced then ? I mean, consoles don’t hold them back, if I’m not mistaken. The only one which seems to be actually impressive would be Star Citizen. Apart from that, not much.
A lot of amazing games, just like on every platform, but nothing that advanced on a technical pov.
only Starcraft 2 among those games did well among critics and it didn’t sell well enough because many people were already turned to consoles. now compare that to the golden age of RTS genre. also Total war is turned based with real time mixed so it doesn’t really count as an RTS.
Book of Unwritten tales really? compare that to Syberia. studios aren’t interested cause they want quick money on consoles.
all those CRPGs you mentioned are thanks to Kickstarter. basically Kickstarter saved the industry. also Armikrog, spiritual successor of Neverhood, a click and point adventure game is getting released thanks to Kickstarter. the true savior of the industry.
as for shooters, auto aiming is self explanatory.
as for RPGs, Compare Dragon Age Origins, a tactical RPG to Dragon Age 2, an action RPG that got the tactical part removed to please console fans.
PC exclusives aren’t advanced because mainstream is locked on consoles. not many are willing to put money forward now. plus we even have downgrades thanks to consoles.
based on your points and comments i see no reason to continue wasting my time with you. have fun trolling or w/e it is you are doing.
Or the fact you don’t know what’s advanced and what’s not, Crysis only made it on to the Xbox because it had to use the new CE3 and even that was cut down from the PC version.
the koreans on the console version have worse textures than the lowest pc settings.
“Simplifying shooters ? What even ? How old school shooters were more complicated on PC ?”
FACEPALM
GET OUT JUST GET OUT.
“why aren’t PC exclusives so amazingly advanced then ?”
you blind ? starcitizen or crysis ?
I don’t see what you see.
it also means justin bieber and cod sell more.
The fools will easilly throw their moeny at hype.
“Consoles help a LOT because almost everyone who plays video games has at least one”
Stupid logic, the old consoles have far lager instal base.
The correct argument here is that the next gen consoles got NOTHING so they grab any good game that comes out.
Think about it, what do consoles have? remasters and crappy rushed releases.
Meanwhile the consoles sold double that amount of copies, giving them enough profit to produce more games, such as Cyberpunk 😉
Not to mention that most of those PC copies were bought at half price from crappy CD Key sites or included in GPU bundles. They would have very likey lost money on a PC only release.
“Not to mention that most of those PC copies were bought at half price from crappy CD Key sites or included in GPU bundles. They would have very likey lost money on a PC only release.”
LOL, plz educate yourself before posting such an ignorant comment. Do a little research first.
Please bring an argument to the table instead of your hurt a*s before bothering to respond to me 😉
“bought at half price”
ther are more and more second hand account games on consoles and they are cheap and even on release dates they are cheap.
“GPU bundles”
ever heard of console bundles ? every year a new cod bundle or forza bundle or unsharted bundle etc…
“lost money on a PC”
actually they made more, no hard copies/no licensing fee etc…
They made more money by getting 70% of $5 in a steam sale? Lol okay. That’s why all games are made console first and PC gets secondary ports. Companies know their game needs to be on console to make money, which is why PC has no games
no tripple A games goes 70% off on steam or any other platforms unless it’s older than few years, open your eyes again peasant and don’t make facts out of your a**. games goes on sale even on consoles but more on PC because it’s digital and they can boost the sales again by droping a few $.
“That’s why all games are made console first and PC gets secondary ports”
lol wrong, dead wrong. fact: they made their games on PC and then they show PC version on trailers then they give you peasant a s**tiest version of the game to play, but you blind slaves can’t tell the difference cuz, well, you are blind. even those s***ty PC versions of multiplat games are better than it’s console versions, they look better and they play better on PC you idiot f**k.
“Companies know their game needs to be on console to make money”
bayonetta 2 says hi.
“which is why PC has no games”
lol, at leas be original, slave. that’s the PS4 who has no games.
now back to your hole, located in your mom’s b*tt, the hole that gave birth to you on toilet
omg hahahha
😀
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RockStar doesn’t release GTA on PC first because they want to make their investment back. I don’t need anyone at RockStar to tell me this.
Why?
PC is more powerful overall than consoles. I would have been a shorter development cycle to release GTA V on PC and then water it down for PS3 / X360 later. Why did they take the extra time to optimize for the lower end platforms first? MONEY.
Now feel free to reply, but keep in mind I have been respectful in my comments to you.
“MONEY”
not the sales money but MS or Sony’s
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I am in partial agreement with you, but making comments like “PC has no games” is like blood in the water for these PC guys.
I get why some are upset. They spend $2500+ on a system and they want someone to really dig into that hardware. Sure they get higher resolution, they get more frames, but they aren’t exactly getting a different game that TRULY exploits their “investment”.
The fact is the economics don’t support making games like that.
Star Citizen will likely be that kind of game but it doesn’t follow the standard sales model. What I hear people are paying for ships in that game amazes me. If the high end PC crowd is happy to spend their money in that fashion — more power to them. BUT — Don’t expect other developers to give the level of attention to their needs if they aren’t funding them directly.
You do realize that 1.3 million copies is $78 million (roughly, 1.3 mil x 60)? Witcher 3’s budget? $32 million. It WAY more than made profit JUST off the PC version.
Those copies aren’t from $60 game sales. Hardly anyone who got the game on PC paid that. Most got it for around $30 from sites like CD Keys, or from the Nvidia GTX GPU bundle. AT BEST they made around $10 million profit from the PC release, which is enough to keep the studio afloat for a little while. Meanwhile the console releases that actually did sell for $60 each with around 4 million in sales made them a profit of over a quarter of a billion dollars. We are talking a whole different level of profit thanks to the console editions.
Unsharted ROFLMAO…
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PC as a platform literally has no obstacles for piracy. While I can understand the points that Spencer is making CD Projekt RED knows for a fact that every Xbox One and PlayStation 4 Witcher 3 player on launch day PAID FOR THE GAME.
You can’t say that for PC with any degree of sincerity.
yet still they sold the same
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For this game. GTA5 did a billion in revenues in just 3 days on PS3/X360. I don’t think PC has ever had that level of success in any game.
yet you don’t saw a game marketed for PC with that hype or any
So you’re comparing 2 platforms against one to make yourself feel good?
I bought the game for £50 from GoG. CD Projekt own GoG so they keep 100% of the profits. I bet you can’t say the same about your console port as MS/Sony demand a percentage of the profits to allow it on their platforms.
Now please go away troll or Geralt might hunt you down.
Always the same with console fanboys coming in at the last hurdle claiming the glory when it was PC gamers that supported CDPR with The Witcher series not consoles.
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I believe the Sony / MS license is a fee not percentage. I am going to check with some of my developer friends and find out for certain.
And bunch of you PC faggots bought the game for 30-40 euro on pc key sites. Your point is?
his point is that they are not losing a single penny you dumb a*s fanboy, they are not stupid. PC is a cheaper platform …. even to release new games.
Only the peasants think that way, though. What do they matter? The Mustard Rays knows better.
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When there is an investment of tens of millions into a franchise it is only prudent to maximize the revenues by releasing on as many platforms that can handle the game. It would be stupid to do otherwise you are leaving money on the table.
I find it funny that PC guys are grabbing on to this as proof positive that developers do not need consoles to be successful. You completely ignore the fact that the entire Witcher Trilogy didn’t appear on consoles (Witcher 2 only saw release on one console the X360). The Witcher series has an install base that has been predominantly PC Players.
I am sure CD Projekt is happy with the revenues they have received from all platforms. I am sure their next game will be released on the same platforms.
Oh look, an elitist.
Wtf are you talking about? Do you even math bro?
1.3 million is one third of all the sales they made.
If they had made this game for consoles only they would have still made more money than if they did PC only.
Face the truth. Most PC players torrent their games and the real sales money have always come from consoles.
Of 10 f’faces in my class only 3 bought The Witcher 3. One was me, for the PS4, the other one was my cousin for the PS4 and the other one got it free with his graphics card.
All the others? Downloaded straight from torrents. Played the game for free and didn’t even buy it in the end to show support…
So probally: 2.0 m from PS4
Xbox1 : 700 k PC 1.3 m
How many GTA V PC has sold 10-15 mil on PC until now?
PS: GTA V its on TOP charts 1# on steam since release!
2.5M. PC sales cannot fight consoles. That is truth. Sales on consoles 52M.
steanspy shows 2.5 Mil but its way more than that !!!!!!
+ steamspy also shows that Witcher 3 has sold 500 k LOL
Steamspy is pretty accurate.
not really, specially for new released games or games that don’t have data avaliable or are hidden in people’s library
2.5 million is only for steam version, i bought the retail version that does not play trough steam.
and both of consoles combined revenue is not even close to pc gaming’s revenue and that is also the truth……..
Begone.
yes 2 YEARS AGO.
Implyying 2.5 million sale sares in less than 2 months is “bad”
To me it’s kind of disappointing on the sales. Witcher was originally from the PC platform and the sales only proven that casuals are dominant. Are they any good? It’s bad for PC gaming. Then there’s mobile. If mobile sales are more dominant than consoles, i don’t think console gamers like that their games turn to mobile garbage. But that is the industry we are talking about where $ speaks louder than anything.
the f**k are you taking about ? the other day you said it won’t sell on PC that much now your saying it’s bad for PC gaming ? wtf ? .by the way on PC game sales slow but steady and on consoles they relay on pre-orders and day1 sales, and don’t forget this and most games marketed to consoles no PCs, some people don’t even know some games coming on PCs too. also mobile sales are already higher than consoles and it’s revenue is higher than 3consoles combined.
He has to be trolling i was like “wut” when i read his comment.
A lot of people didn’t buy the game after controversy. TBH, these sales are better than I expected and PC sales will surpass Consoles… Console sales are always front loaded.
wut?
Nothing will beat GTA V(10 mil at least PC) until Fallout 4 and Half Life 3!
Not to mention that it will keep selling on PC.
572.000 steam sales http://steamspy.com/app/292030 + 693.000 GOG sales= about 1,2 million sales,+ 100.000 retail.
Looks like we now know who the 1 million pre orders comprised of..that’s not bad at all. I’m sure this game will continue selling throughout the year. Wouldn’t be surprised if PC version ended up amounting to a count of 5 million out of the total sales by this time next year.
pc version will sell the best in long term.
PC version was the Witcher’s true fan base first and foremost…though we don’t know individually what PS4 and X1 have sold. It will take time seeing PC hasn’t sold as much as the other two but yes it will definitely get a lot of sales. I’m sure the devs themselves will even go buy it themselves on PC just to pat themselves on the back.
Probably, considering how well TW and TW2 sold on PC.
Games usually do better in long term on PC, as usual.
aside from what geralt below sell it would have sold better if it was optimized.
The more solid a game is the more people will buy it yes, but given all they did with their relatively small studio compared to most AAA devs, I say they did a good job, even if stuff like X1 save errors should have never happened. Hope Arkham Knight has none of these issues..even the slightest misstep will kill the hype that game has already amassed.
seems to me the bugs are heret to stay due to how complex games are nowdays.
Unfortunately so. Only like 10% of games now ship without bugs, with 5 blocks of 2% each going to PC games, indie games, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo games. If you ask me, most of the games on Wii U so far haven’t had any major bugs except in Smash Bros. but other than that on PS4 and X1 it’s hard to find a game that didn’t launch with bugs or doesn’t have them still. Just saying. Maybe as devs get used to working on hardware, they will get more efficient.
When i heard that ps4 has blue error screens and shadow of mordor had a “mission not fully downloaded”
i was like, “yup thats it, consoles have become pcs”
suppose that goes without saying since PS4 and X1 now use the same architecture as a PC haha. next thing you know PC will be the only platform in existence since people keep saying consoles can’t keep going as they are.
in a few years the current consoles will be using cloud streaming, thats what i think will happen.
It would weird never having a physical disc again. Also consoles would have to always be connected to the Internet and have a subscription to play games, don’t think console players will exactly be ready for that. Unless they have a feature where you can download the game somehow and not need Internet or something it just won’t work before people start complaining.
Whats the point?I got wolfenstein new order retail i had to download 10 gb.
MCC collection has like what? 20 gb updates?
Titanfall is always online, division is always online, the new NFS is always online.
Finally all those games requires patches upon patches to work properly even for sp.
So yeah, SADLY we are getting there.
Some of the world doesn’t have Internet that meets the requirements of download or streaming. I’m talking about other games like single player, MP is gonna have online no matter what. I hope the whole patches thing goes away. Unfortunately that all happened. Hopefully there’s option to only download some of the total so it’s like I already played this much, so I only need to download this particular size to keep playing sort of thing. Sony is developing a new disc technology with Panasonic so most likely the next cycle will continue using discs through and through.
“Some of the world doesn’t have Internet that meets the requirements of download or streaming.”
Since when that stopped them?
In middle east from what i heard from another user on this site, even downloading drivers is ip banned.
It is all about the first world countries and this comes from a poor european.
I dont think there will be another cycle of consoles, as someone from nvidia said it makes sense to not have a dedicated device because some things have to be streamed once for everyone.
Ofcourse we are talking about 8 plus years here, but you get the idea, the “next gen” wont have dedicated hardware. Just streaming device.
You’re right they just keep going forward regardless, but I think they’ll reach a point where they won’t wanna abandon a lot of players that are fans of the games that are played which means employing features that suit someone’s lifestyle no matter where they are. I’m sure people will start making more online only games or services no matter what, but I hope they realize how many potential customers they will miss out on, since that sorta thing is on the marketing team’s mind and all.
I think there will still be consoles for at least one more cycle, but not the same way we know them now maybe, who knows. Could be a hybrid console that supports streaming and disc games. What would be cool if that particular streaming device was your TV. You can sign up for whatever service straight through your TV when 5-10 years from now there are advanced Internet capabilities in TV’s and you can access Internet like you do on PC. That would be a good compromise since we both know Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo will never develop solely for PC.
diablo 3.
Long story short most of the world doesnt care because they are idiotic simplistic consumers that dont pay attention to the details.
It is definetly a hybrid.
Well Diablo 3 they eventually got rid of the always online, so it shows some companies listen but yeah most people will just move forward regardless and not worry about the consequences. Wonder how that’d go since they know more than half of gamers still play disc but there are plenty that are also ready for digital.
as far as i know only on consoles.
As far nitendo goes, it all depends on 2 things
1. how well zelda sells.
2. Wherever the new final fantasy is sucessfull in japan…because as far as capcom and konami go…they are gone. Japan seems to be going towards mobile gaming.
Hmm..that’s odd. Yeah unfortunately mobile is prominent in Asia. I’m sure they’ll have a market crash or something then they will wish they never went mobile.
horizon looks pretty good, uncharted 4 is downgraded (lets be honst the sony fanboys cant STFU about hype “buzzwords” that sony feeds them) but it looks and plays like uncharted. Finally FF7 gets a remake FINALLY.
Aside from the fact that most games shown in E3 are coming out in 2016, things look good.
i am curious if the 2 final fantasy games and the new zelda will revitilize the market in japan. Because that transformers games from platinum did put a new shinny nail in the coffin.
I honestly didn’t notice any downgrades or decreases in quality, maybe it was just the time of day or place LOL but seriously that didn’t cross my mind at all. Yeah it was about time the remake get made official. Yeah at least we know 2016 won’t be barren. I’d hope so man, even if Zelda is not as popular as it is in other countries, it still sells a good amount there. Especially with how ambitious the new one is, unless they change it drastically, they’re good to go. Final Fantasy will always keep selling in Japan, the market there would die if FF ceased to exist on console let’s be honest. And yeah, I didn’t expect that from Platinum, it could be good but I never play movie related games so I won’t bother either way.
well the game is obviously not done, that ak47 missed a magazine at some point.
But come one the next gen consoles cant ouput the graphics from the E3 teaser trailer id take large maps over photorealism.
I wonder how much FF7 remaster will cost. It will be insanely expensive. Platinum’s transformers game is cellshaded, after legend of korra, they hit rock bottom.
There is that ms exlusive but still they dont have the budget to make big games.
Again I didn’t notice the little details so I couldn’t tell, I was just excited by the driving sequence. I’ve always preferred story and game play over graphics, so I know what you mean. It will probably be $50 at most, they better not charge $60. That MS exclusive is called Scalebound, and they will show more of it at Gamescom. That is one of the games to be excited for, wonder how it will play out or what its setting is.
Yeah i would take gameplay over graphcis and great level design, i wished the fanboys stop wetting their pants and hyping graphisc to high heaven.
Have you heard about the new hitman game? Digital release 60 bucks they gonna add more stuff as time passes.
So you pay 60 bucks for a early access.
Yup. They’re gonna show the full game play reveal during Square Enix’s conference in fact. I rather have the whole game in my possession when I pay the first time. Don’t wanna have to keep paying or wait for content to come, makes it feel incomplete.
consolefags yesterday: all of pc gamers are pirates and no one buy games on PC.
consolefags today: consoles sells better, see ? it sold 10k more copies than PC.
“10k more copies”.
There is a difference between 10k and 1.4M buddy.
Having a gaming PC is cool and all, but going to school to learn how to count would be nice as well.
having a brain is cool and all but not using it would be s**t. you combined both of them idiot, we are talking about 3 separate platforms here, can you count ? doubt it
Sorry, you didn’t say “Sony peasants” or “MS peasants”, you used the term “peasants” as a whole, that includes all platforms. Having trouble expressing your thoughts, dear ?
“you used the term “peasants” as a whole”
there is no such thing as peasants as a whole, they are against each other. and no that doesn’t mean that s**thead
So because a noisy majority of idiots yell at each other that their console is the best means we can’t add both platforms sales to know the console figures ? Oh my.
It’s like saying the “HURRRR PC MASTER RACE” shouldn’t count when counting PC sales just because the normal PC gamer is annoyed by their poor behaviour regarding console gaming.
So what does it mean ? Please, enlighten me with your vastly superior PC MASTER RACE intellect, for I too am half a peasant, since I play on PC and consoles. Please, have mercy on my pitiful life.
Losing your nerve ? All these insults aren’t exactly kind y’know, you’re hurting my feelings 🙁
you didn’t get what i was posted then you made s**t up out of your a** and now your just changing the subject. GTFO s**thead, you are one of those idiots.
“poor behaviour regarding console gaming”
lol at you f**ing idiot, poor behaviour ? you consoletards made PCMR as a joke, you are the ones who started this s**t now it’s poor behaviour against consoletards ? Foff and never come back
I mostly play on PC y’know, but nice try though.
CDPR has stated the game sold 4M, including 1.3M on PC. That makes it 2.7M on consoles. What’s the point of splitting them between the PS4 sales and XBO sales ? Just so you can go ahead and say it sold a few 10k more on consoles ? Doesn’t work that way.
PC elitists made themselves look like sh*t for looking down on console gaming because of their inferior specs, of course some idiots made jokes about it. Look at you talking about “peasants”. That’s poor behaviour for you.
Geez, look at you. Can’t even keep it civil. And I’m the “s**thead”, the “a**”. You’re the one losing it because you can’t seem to get a joke (y’know, the thing my 1st comment is), not me.
I just find it funny how console gamers are called “peasants”. How’s Red Dead Redemption, The Last Of Us, Uncharted, Kingdom Hearts, Demon’s Souls, Bloodborne, Bayonetta, Banjo & Kazooie (just to name a few) for you ?
The “consoletards”, as you call them, also have a PC most of the time. So they can play all the great games from all platforms. Not so retarded, hey ?
PC gaming is awesome, console gaming is awesome, both combined is effing marvelous.
But hey, “peasants”, right ?
actually he has called your troll bait and threw it back at you.
You are all peasants bow down to the glory of the pc MASTER race.
ahahahhaah what an idiot, try again moron.
I can’t take a sh*t unless I take my shirt off.
I don’t see the point of bragging which platform sold more than the other. More sales is good regardless.
FYI: re the article quote “In order to put things into perspective, this means that one third of the overall sales where from the PC (that’s of course if PS4 and Xbox One had equals sales).”
1/3 of sales is 1/3 of sales regardless of the breakout of PS4 and BB1 sales
that’s great but i was hoping for a little more on PC, since it is a PC first game and all. in the long run PC will sell the highest amount though. i never relied on steamspy numbers as something definitive, they are only good for knowing the bare minimum numbers that are sold, they are close in this case though, since it sold 600k on Steam and based on steamspy it’s close to 570k.
numbers are from CDPR not steamspy. i guess it’s doing well specially when they marketed witcher 3 for Xbone
i know i was comparing CDPR numbers to steamspy, just to show they were close. i didn’t expect that.
yea the Xbone marketing is really ironic, it probably sold less on Xbox, and it is the weakest version.
yeah, most of the games they marketed on xbone sold better on other platforms :)) tombraider/witcher/ACU etc…
would sell faster if it was optimized. The sales will keep increasing on pc over time keep decreasing on consoles
I think that it could have been much higher too if they hadn’t given our graphics hardware the middle finger. As soon as I saw the massive downgrade, I refunded my copy to GOG
so happy for them, it will sell at least 6 by the end of the year and it will continue to sell at least like hitman or tomb rider
I tried to get my copy through GMG but the website was being a little b*tch.
Just give one month and you see facebook console groups full of post offering to resell the game. PC will be selling new fresh copies to a cheaper prices for years!!! But console drones will be telling you in years that this game sold 10k more copies in the first month on X console.
They started this stupid platform wars, now because they are losing, they call us elitists.
So consoles sold over double the amount of PC copies, once again proving that consoles sell far more games than PC, even for a PC centric series. Remarkable.
Oops, I forgot this is a PC fanboy site, better leave before I get the bleeding vaginas all over me.
Well the consoles didn’t really sell over double as XB1 and PS4 is two totally different platforms and as such that means CD Projekt had to pay license fees to give two different platform holders a cut from the sales. Meanwhile on PC there is no license fees.
I think you should leave as I have read a few of your comments and you are a right d*ck.
Except console are not one platform publisher do not count ps4 and xb1 one in the same.
PC counts console gamers as the same and discounts both consoles the same way so consoles as a whole should be compared against PC, and they handily kick it’s a*s
gtfo peasant and go lick sony’s b*ls in dualshockers, stupid troll, you combined both consoles ? lol funny how you stupid f**ks eat your words and change them regularly
PS4, a new console, outsold the mighty ubiquitous PC all by itself.
Enjoy those denial flakes 😉
PS4 a new console without any games, of course it will sell whatever that come out, also who says PS4 outsold PC ? let’s review the numbers again next year and we will see, just like tomb raider, more than 180million consoles out there but the game sold on PC (3m out ot 8m) more than any othre platforms. also PC games has more revenue and they won’t market the game on PC like they do it for your potatoboxes
enjoy your toaster s**thead
Hahaha you think 3m is greater than 5m. You’re warped. Consoles nearly doubled the PC sales as admitted by you, and at that most of the PC copies were cheap steam sale fodder. Enjoy having less games and no exclusives 😉
wow your a re*ard and a funny one too.
PC – 3m
POS4 – whatever
POS3 – whatever
Xbone – whatever
X360 – whatever
see ? pc is on top, it’s not PC vs all platforms you F’ing idiot. and yes 3m is more than what each platform sold.
“most of the PC copies were cheap steam sale fodder”
my friend bought bloodborne for 10$, you can buy cheap games everywhere, even if was cheap it was digital, so no hard copy is sitting on the gamestop shells collecting dust you F’tard.
“Enjoy having less games”
PC has more games, every month it has more games than a year on consoles.
“no exclusives”
lol stupid f**k, you are a re*ard peasant, aren’t you ? PC has more exclusives you motherf**ker, lol. enjoy your crapstatoin and potatobox with no games, maybe 3 to 4 a year, loool.
don’t worry i will find you soon, keep talking.
Blah blah blah all I read are excuses for why PC got dominated in the sales charts even with it selling its games at $5. Consoles actually
Made the developer profit, so you’re welcome for allowing games to keep getting made 😉
lol, you and your f**ktard friends don’t even know the simplest thing about the market but sure know how to be an idiot, of course you are, after all you are a sony slave, baby.
“PC got dominated”
lol by whom ?
“games at $5”
they are new games with less than that on pos4, bloodbrone.
“you’re welcome for allowing games to keep getting made”
only cod and ac and bulls**ts like that are a thing on consoles, lol, more than 180m consoles and most sells are below a million even your dear crappy exclusives.
enjoy your 50$ yearly online fee and sub 30fps somethimes sub 20fps games kid.
The Order 1886 sold less than 1 million copies LOL.
bu-but exclusives, muh graphics, number one selling platform in the world, lol
LOL, did you know The Order 1886 didn’t even sell 1 million copies, now it seems Ready At Dawn is leaving Sony.
“consoles actualy made the developer profit”
implying pc doesnt…also implying the game wasnt marketed to h3ll and back on consoles
You do realise PC copies makes more per game than consoles? Also, no exclusives? How about Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, Path of Exile, XCOM 2, Act of Aggression, Dreadnought, Fortnite, ARK: Survival Evolved, Pillars of Eternity and a load of others, not to mention the OLD PC games coming to consoles that were PC only and funeded by PC users. Enjoy your inferior remakes.
700K more is hardly surprising since it was marketed on the consoles heavy because they don’t have the Witcher series. The Witcher 2 sold a million per year on PC over the time it been on PC. Sales of TW3 will drop off on consoles and get traded as usual where CDPR won’t make any money off those copies traded.
TW3 already has mods, it will continue to sell well on PC and last a lot longer. Also you do realise that between the consoles TW3 has sold 2.7million copies of the 4 million?
Why do we care what you think, you don’t have an ounce of credibility here. The game was marketed on the consoles heavy because PC users already know of the Witcher series, it was practically all demoed on console and also needs to sell more than the PC to even make a profit, since Microsoft and Sony take a big chunk of the game sales.
All it takes it a bit of thinking on your part dude instead of being an idiot and making yourself look bad time after time.
The only think you proved is that you console fanboys buy whatever there is on the new consoles because they got nothing.
The dfifirence is that the pc version will continue to sell forever and ever and good job comparing 2 systems to on.
If we assume each console sold the same amount, then that mean EACH console sold 1.4 million. So the same amount as PC.
When selling digital, like on Steam and GoG, the developers of the game get almost all the profits, which mean 1 PC copy sold is worth about 3 console copies sold. So that 1.3 million PC copies sold is about the same profit they would get from selling 3.9 million console copies.
I didn’t realise this site had so many peasants or are they incoming from n4g.
plus more revenue on PC cuz CDPR self published the game on steam and gog, but warner and namco are publishers of the retail version and consoles
“I mostly play on PC y’know, but nice try though”
not really, it’s a peasant tactic. but you have failed, lol.
“What’s the point of splitting them between the PS4 sales and XBO sales”
because they are two different platforms that have nothing to do with each other, in fact they are competing. see ? now GTFO.
“PC elitists”
F’ off you f**ktard.
“down on console gaming because of their inferior specs”
console gamers started graphic wars and resolution s**ts, then they saw PC games and how PCGamers playing games, in every debut they started to call pcgamers master race, pc gamers took it, simple as that. now don’t talk about things you don’t know s**t about.
“Geez, look at you. Can’t even keep it civil”
why should i ? you are the troll here no me.
“You’re the one losing it because you can’t seem to get a joke”
i’m always like that to trolls and people who are making things up out of their a**s. we don’t have joke here, but if you want to entertain us with your bulls**t & with your stupidity then go ahead, so far you did a good job.
“How’s Red Dead Redemption – The Last Of Us, Uncharted”
your true color. you just admited you were trolling to fight for your beloved consoles, to make your masters proud. also played them all, only good one in that s**ty list of yours is RDR.
“also have a PC most of the time”
so as pc gamers, what’s your point ? peasants are people who made fun of pc gaming and think their platform is superior, not console gamers in general, you stupid f**k.
no plz educate yourself before posting stupid comments.
Please educate yourself before refuting facts 🙂
Do i need to clean your a*s too every time you go to the bathroom ?. I already said, do some research.
GOD i already see why you were being straigh up ignored.
i don’t understand, so you mean 2.7 million were not sold on pc?
2.7million were sold between the two consoles.
dang!
Funny when console gamers argue among each other on who has the better game or system. Sorry never head of this rule and especially with the huge fanboy war going on the web.
“In order to put things into perspective, this means that one third of the overall sales where from the PC (that’s of course if PS4 and Xbox One had equals sales).”
No, it’s a third no matter what the split between the other two is.
In 2014 PC Games Revenue accounted for $31.5Bn while all consoles combined only made $24.5Bn. Please stop with the consoles make more money nonsense.
only reason why they made more on pc is you got idiots like star citizen players spending 100k usd on a f’ing ship
So what you are saying here is that 2 next gen consoels with no games sold more than one system.
Yup peasants.
here is an argument, gog version sold more than steam.
@disqus_ZPU19Bza1c:disqus
I can agree with some of what you say, but honestly it’s not like you have brought forth a ton of evidence to support your claims.
Cheaper? That’s why 90% of the multiplatform go to consoles first. How long did you wait for GTA ? Hhaa, how long do you wait for almost every AC? Next.
GTA and AC ? AC ? hahaha. I could give pc examples but its not worth it
idk why i wasted my time replying to you.
btw stop liking your own comments
for one you are making other europeans look bad and two, we got gta5 a few months late because the console players decided to beta test it for us, you guys are very kind.
Im like 30 hours into gta5 and i realised how you guys over exaggerated the hype of gta5….the sensational reaction behind gta5 was nothing but hype..its as if you kids never played a single gta game.
How did they “neglect” their fanbase? Aren’t people raving about the PC version? Isn’t it one of the best looking games you can buy?
This has proved nothing other than MAYBE the game was financially viable as just a PC release but I would love to know how their development costs matched up against the revenue from PC sales alone.
They are a business, they aren’t in this to break even, they are in it to maximise profit. They produced a fantastic product and all your whining is based on one old trailer, a factually incorrect forum post and a misguided feeling of somehow being slighted because of this.
still tiny numbers compared to many other games. skyrim for example has sold over 20 million copies as of today, and on release witcher 3 only got… 4mil? for a game like this i expected at least 10 mil
You sound like a peasant. You are a peasant. Simple stuff idiot.
You sound like a moron. You are a moron. Keep clinging to that scrap of delusional self-importance you can only get owning an electronic device. It’s quite sad actually, but you’re still an idiot.
“delusional self important you can only get owning a electronic device”
SAID THE SONY FANBOY WHO DEFENDS SONY AS IF HE OWNS STOCKS.
Seriously your idiocy backfired.
Im a PC gamer. I just don’t go on about “PC master race” like you. I’m not defending any console, I’m simply stating you are a sad moron that thinks his PC makes him relevant. A sad looser is what you are and all you will ever be.
CDPR said that it can cost a certain amount to make a game for pc, But then it will cost an extra 10% more to make that game playable on both PS4 and XBox One. 10% more is a pittance compared to the 67.5% more sales they made. It’s purely a business sense. It means they make more profit and make better games for all platforms. You can’t tell me they skimped out majorly on the PC version. It still looks bloody fantastic even if they did have to reduce a few graphical effects. All PC gamers need to do is try and ask CDPR to perhaps release a higher definition PC version that is optional for PC players to install.
I don’t know why game companies don’t do that to begin with. Some release higher texture packs. Other’s don’t. As a PC gamer myself, I would have loved to see the Witcher 3 have a higher definition e3 2013 model & graphical effects as an optional extra. I know it makes it harder to streamline patches to all platforms, but.. It would be nice.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/guy-spends-22-500-on-star-citizen-has-no-regrets/1100-6426321/ theres your smart pc gamers lmao
The 142 million active STEAM users might also help a bit…
If we assume each console sold the same amount, then that mean EACH console sold 1.4 million. So the same amount as PC.
When selling digital, like on Steam and GoG, the developers of the game get almost all the profits (on GoG CD Projekt Red get 100% profits), which mean 1 PC copy sold is worth about 3 console copies sold. So that 1.3 million PC copies sold is about the same profit they would get from selling 3.9 million console copies.
Also, let’s not forget that PC gamers continue to buy a game for years to come, while console gamers don’t buy games more than a year old. Hell, they stop making new copies of a game for the consoles in less than a year after release. Yes, us PC gamers will be buying to game for half price on Steam and GoG, but the profits still go to the developers, while when console gamers buy second-hand non of the profits go to the developer at all.