It is no secret that a lot of developers and gamers got upset with the recent news about Facebook’s acquisition of Oculus VR. Naturally, a lot of people wanted to see what John Carmack had to say about this whole thing and at last, Carmack shared his first thoughts about it.
Carmack started by saying that the FB deal is going to be positive, though he understands why there is a lot of backlash regarding it.
“Everyone has had some time to digest the FB deal now. I think it is going to be positive, but clearly many disagree.” said Carmack and continued:
“Much of the ranting has been emotional or tribal, but I am interested in reading coherent viewpoints about objective outcomes.”
Carmack added later on that Facebook would not interfere or control Oculus VR, unless the latter is facing major issues, in which case this would make sense.
“I would expect Facebook to not exert any overt control over Oculus unless Oculus fumbles badly a few times, at which point they SHOULD.”
“I think they can give us a lot of positive guidance. I want enumeration of the vague evils to beware of.”
So there you have it. Carmack has spoken. Do you agree or disagree with him?
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disagree with Carmack? Madness.
If I were Carmack, I’d remember how happy he was about the Bethesda purchase of id software. He said much the same thing as he’s saying here. You’d think he’d realize some of us actually remember how he reacted then and how he’s reacting now.
He’s making the same argument now as he did then. It’ll end the same way, too. Except instead of a decent publisher taking over for a middling developer, it’ll be a horrible parent company meddling with a tinkering ideal.
I’m not saying I don’t want an Oculus Rift because I would love to try it out for the experience, I was just a little shocked to see it being bought my Facebook. I’ve never signed up to any social media websites, hell this is as close as I want to get typing this out here. I hope it goes all well in the long run, and to remember that Oculus aren’t the only company that will be venturing out into VR.
ill stick with morpheus
Sony hasn’t even demoed it yet, nor have they said it will be for PC.
They demoed Morpheus the day after they announced it at GDC. You can see videos of people using it on YouTube showing you what they see as they move around. Pretty cool stuff and undoubtedly no different than what you’d end up getting on Oculus with the dev kit 2.
As for it going to PC, I doubt Sony will support it anytime soon after it’s release, but it doesn’t stop people from developing drivers for it like they did the DS3(motioninjoy)…unless it uses a proprietary connection instead of Bluetooth/USB, as in the PS Eye port.
Morpheus is irrelevant in the PC world
Sorry to break it to you but you’re not the one who will determine relevancy. That will be done by those who decide to work on it and if enough people find it to be useful or not.
I think what you mean is, you would hate for it to succeed in the PC world. If that’s the case, you become irrelevant to the conversation. Both Oculus and Morpheus are VR gear. If they both have PC connectivity, then they are both relevant. You don’t have to hate something because it’s related to consoles but that’s your call and your loss.
Broaden your horizons and you’ll enjoy life a little more.
Well it is, it’s not even a PC device, this is a PC centric site, it’s that simple and that’s why it’s irrelevant.
PC stands for Personal Computer. It’s not relevant to you. Don’t speak for me or others. Thank you and come again.
What on earth are you talking about with your random drivel?
Are just dense or retarded?
Ahh so it is random drivel from some lower life form.
I understand why it’s irrelevant to you, but like I said, broaden those horizons of yours and you’ll see that it is relevant to PC as long as it is feasible, regardless of the website it’s being discussed on. I’m not saying it is or isn’t feasible but you can’t dismiss it just yet.
You can say all you like about PC and consoles. Peripherals have always been adapted from one to the next and I highly doubt it’ll stop here! Have a good one.
Sony already said that they are considering bringing Morpheus to other platforms. Bringing it to PC would actually make the most sense. Developers are going to want to make multiplatform VR games, but Oculus and Morpheus work very differently. If Sony could bring Morpheus to PC it would probably end up as the most successful VR solution, especially when you consider that Morpheus does all the extra processing on its own with built in hardware, so you won’t get a huge performance drop like you do with the Oculus Rift. That would be extremely appealing to PC gamers.
“especially when you consider that Morpheus does all the extra processing on its own with built in hardware”
Interpolation is bad, m’kay?
huh?
Do you idiots even understand how this works?
morpheus=hype and no proof of concept.
Oculus=working right now.
morpheus=ps4
oculus=pc
There is no comparison here oculus is a existing open technology. Morpheus so far is hype and exlusive to ps4, its not like you can use it on pc or vice versa.
Lol man, so what if the guy wants a morpheus instead of an Oculus rift? Why do you even give a shit? If the guy wants a VR for his PS4, there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s nothing to lose sleep over.
Because him and all the people who upvoted his comment are well known sony dck likcers.
Morpheus= ps4 only games no proof of concept.
oculus is working right now on pc for everything and games.
He is comparing apples with space nuts.
NO ,VALVe VR.
As far as I know they cancelled their VR (too expensive for an ordinary user), and now they simply want to make their own version of Oculus Rift.
The second main tech guy from Valve just deserted to Facebooculus as well.
There’s no more hope for a Valve VR set anymore.
Sony wont have a 4K version since there is no way a low spec console could ever cope.
Morpheus is going to be another over hyped thing from Sony . They will hype it up with their lies and in the end it will turn out that it is just for indie games because PS4 even can’t handle 1080p WITHOUT VR and VR not only requires extra power of machine but it is also targeted for 4k gaming . Considering how PS4 can’t handle decade old resolution , I won’t be surprised if even PS5 can’t do 1440p , let alone 4k .
Obviously Sony wants to get their fanbase hype so they buy more consoles.Theres nothing carved on stone now yet, so maybe We could be see Sony announcing that Morpheus is too expensive and not reliable for their customers.
Honestly, the only reason I am interested in Oculus now is because of Carmack! If he leaves the company, I would never be interested in Oculus and what they are doing or planning…
Carmack no departure from Bethesda because everything was wonderful
Zenimax or Faceshit all set limitations and elaborate work in a certain direction
Irony , Carmack left Zenimax only to go to Facebook…
I see your point, obviously hes not going to talk bad about his new boss.
Why does anyone care what John Carmack thinks? Everyone has their own opinion. We don’t need anyone else to tell us what to think. It might have got them a lot of money but selling to Facebook will probably kill them.
why do you care enough to post then?
Why do i care what he says? Because he’s John Carmack. I wouldn’t care if you said it for example, or anyone else. But Carmack? Please.
Carmack is living legend . He is one of the most talented and respected people in game industry .
LOL. That does not mean that he is right about everything.
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Oculus Rift, a dream shared with many people that became a reality by the ones who believed in it is now owned by Facebook, one of the least trust worthy companies out there.
He’s right, how people can be so emotional about this?
Oculus should be fine. Facebook buying it only means that it has a much larger R&D budget. I’m personally not happy with the deal and that’s simply because I can’t stand Facebook and what it does to people, but as long as the same people continue with the development and stay on the same path, for the most part, we should have the same product, if not better, in the end. That’s when facebook with take it and incorporate it into itself. It’s an investment like every other and they’d be stupid to take it off course of PC development as that’s where it will make the most money.
Of course, Facebook will do what’s best for itself in the end.
I’m not sure what to think of the acquisition. It seems that OR as a company has been trying to get bought out by someone – at least they have a buyer now, I guess – that was kind of what they wanted all along. Facebook also has enough money to pull in very good employees.
Personally I think Facebook should change their company name so that FB and OR reside as subsidiaries (branches?) of a larger media corporation, if only for the sake of public perception. Maybe just Face? Under which would be Facebook and FaceRift 🙂
Someone please tell me the last time Carmack was relevant in gaming. Rage was a Muddy Textured mess that was over hyped and failed to deliver. Doom 3 was a corridor shooter and nothing ground breaking… I understand the guy used to be `The Man` but I think he`s shot ever since he started playing with rockets.
Tech behind Doom 3 left critics speechless, iD Tech 5/RAGE did something unique but unfortunately it had its limitations! He’s “The Man” because of his technical skills! He thinks differently and a step above most….that is the reason he is the guy responsible for creating the FPS genre, creating the word “Deathmatch”, whose code made COD and countless other games successful! He is the reason Oculus got so much attention….
Romero was the one who coined the term “Deathmatch” actually.
John Carmack is not a game designer lol. That’s not what he does. Just because you fail to understand why he’s relevant doesn’t mean that he is not.
Megatextures look beautiful and are a revolutionary technique, things just weren’t ready for it at the time.
For Carmack and the other guy who just left valve to work on this, theres only “good things” coming, more money to waste on testing and spare parts, and more money for them too. But they are not lawyers, Im not concerned about if FB would be interfering with OR development, because they only want the final product, Im concerned about what will happen then? Obviously OR will not be the open platform we all expected, it belong to facebook now, and now every dev outthere must talk with FB to reach an agreement.
Exactly.
Once it’s done they’ll do what they want with it. Palmer & co can promise whatever they want now, it’s all meaningless from here on out because they are not in control anymore.
A company that has never released actual product to the retail space is going to be a lot easier to alter and change than a company that had established itself already. Unfortunately for us all, Oculus refused to actually release product when they should have (DK1, DK2) and instead chose to keep calling them “developer kits.” As such, they are still a company in flux.
That makes it far easier for Facebook to make the case, “Hey, you guys are inexperienced. Marketing says if you do THIS, you’ll increase your marketshare 20%!”
And how will they argue against that? Because they have… NO experience whatsoever with releasing product? At least Facebook has experience, albeit bad experience. Failing at something has never kept people from suggesting people do what they did. In fact, failure is often attributed to things outside the power of the people who failed expressly because they refuse to accept their own role in said failure.
So will it be with Facebook and Oculus. Eventually, Facebook is going to think they know best. Worse, Facebook is going to get more and more desperate as time goes on and their financials start to reveal how badly out whack their stock and their value really is. As the financials begin to fail them, their ability to let companies “do their own thing” will wane and they will start looking for any way they can turn something not making money into something making tons of money.
And Oculus is going to start looking like a GREAT way to compete with Google and Google Glass. Especially when/if it takes off.
I`m not gonna get in an online debate with you. I have my opinion and I stick to it that everything this guy has had his name attached to in the last decade has bored the piss out of me. I respect him to no end for his past work… but have no clue why people care about every thought the man has. Its like he was given the midas touch and everything he touches turns to gold. Fun fact…. it doesn’t.
I tend to listen to the opinions of people who still sell games I enjoy… but whatever to each they’re own.
Just Like He is going to say bad things about facebook… Hypocrite.
Same here dude the more competition the merrier 😉
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Well, it’s a PC centric site, we don’t want your console drivel here and Morphous is not a PC device, it’s for PS4 games.
I’m just saying that it’s a bit hypocritical. Also my point is that if the guy wants a morpheus for his PS4, so what. It’s his/her choice.
Yes so what, take it to DualShockers then.
You guys let such trivial things upset you but whatever man.
I’m not upset, just don’t like console fanboys twisting the context on a PC centric site.
So just because this is a PC centic site, it’s “illegal” to comment about anything regarding consoles?
illegal is the wrong word, not sure why you quoted it as well.
I guess the quote was a bit unnecessary. But I still don’t get why you are making it seem as if it’s against the rules to speak about consoles on this site.
Because it’s just not relevant in this instance.
I honestly don’t see how it isn’t relevant in this case. The topic is about VR and the guy just said he’d rather take the Morpheus.
the name should be changed to sonydamagecontrol com
I lick what exactly? nvidia? valve? WHO???????
Case and point, i never said that any of those companies know what they are doing. I dont defend every move valve or nvidia or amd does like the sony f@gs do. Worst fanbase ever.
When one of those comapnies tries something, case and point steambox, pc users are cautious when sony does it WOOHOHO SONY IS AWESOME THIS WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING.
Well you are a PC fanboy just like those people arguing with you are console fanboys.
On a pc site. dafug they want here? FUD much? Dafuq you want here?
why dont you bother that xderp troll then?
He copy and pastes “mentally ill fanboy delusional and always wrong” on every reply he makes, to all sites he posts, me and 3 other users are spamming him so he will shut up, trolls like this deserve to be called “dck lickers”