According to the Chinese news outlet IThome, Huawei is launching its own brand’s new desktop PC for the domestic market, internally codenamed as ‘Pangu’. Huawei is trying hard to position itself despite the technology bans levied against it by the United States government.
The company’s own 24-core ARM-based Kunpeng 920 Desktop CPUs are apparently almost ready for launch. Huawei could come up with an ARM-based desktop CPU before Apple does. The company is readying a new desktop PC for China’s 3-5-2 plan to replace foreign hardware by 2022. The IThome report claims that the Kunpeng 920 3211K’s multi-core performance is slightly better than the Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake CPU, thus marking an important milestone of China’s technological self-sufficiency.
The Kunpeng 920 CPU family extends up to 64 cores and is built on 7nm process tech. It uses the ‘TaiShan v110’ microarchitecture, which appears to be a custom ARM core according to WikiChip. The Kunpeng 920 is based on Arm’s Neoverse N1 (codenamed as Ares) microarchitecture, and core configurations span from 24 up to 64 cores, all running between 2.4 GHz and 3 GHz clock speeds.
TSMC used to produce Kunpeng 920 for Huawei on its 7nm process node. But due to new U.S. regulations, the company had to cut off all ties with the Chinese tech giant. The Kunpeng 920 3211K SKU in particular sports a total of 24 cores that max out at 2.6 GHz speed. Huawei has paired this processor with 8GB of SO-DIMM memory, a 512GB Samsung SSD and AMD’s Radeon 520 mobile graphics card.
As per the specs, the CPU has a 128KB L1 cache split into 64KB blocks for instructions and data. Each CPU core has 512KB of private L2 cache, and the entire CPU family supports up to 64MB of cache on a 64-core configuration. This Huawei desktop is exclusively for government and enterprise customers. It runs on a Chinese domestic UOS/Unity Operating system and cannot install and support Windows OS. In case you didn’t know, the Unified Operating System (UOS) is a Linux distribution based on Deepin and developed by Tongxin Software as a replacement for Windows in China.
When it comes to expansion options, this desktop does not support other types of graphics cards, and the CPU board also cannot be removed. The Kunpeng 920 3211K CPU is actually soldered to the motherboard and doesn’t support other graphics cards. The UOS is also cemented into the PC so we don’t get any option to install Windows on it either. Users should be able to upgrade the memory or SSD though.
The Kunpeng 920 3211K is a 60 mm x 75 mm BGA package soldered onto the motherboard. There’s support for up to 64 GB of DDR4 RAM running at 3200 MHz, and you get three PCIe 3.0 slots for expansion (one x16 port, one x4, and one x1 port). For storage, there are two M.2 slots and six SATA 3.0 ports.
Coming to the performance, the Kunpeng 920 can surpass Intel’s Core i9-9900K in terms of multi-core performance, but there’s no mention of single-core performance. We can only assume for now that the Single core performance won’t be at par with Intel’s offering. Nevertheless, as an example, the eight-core Kunpeng 920 2249K processor is able to finish the Blender BMW test in 11 minutes and 47 seconds, whereas the Core i9-9900K takes 16 minutes and 45 seconds, but the range of software that can run on UOS is very limited though, and there’s also no emulation layer for most of the popular x86 software/apps.
Huawei ‘s 24-core CPU clocked at a static 2.6 GHz brings about 62.4 GHz of processing power to the table. A Core i9-9900K on the other hand gives around 42 GHz of effective processing power assuming a 4.5 GHz turbo clock speed. Overall, the Kunpeng 920 is much better than Zhaoxin’s x86 chips. China plans to replace all hardware and software by 2022, and Huawei’s chips seem like a better option. It could also tap into a local foundry like SMIC, for the production of the 7nm process later this year.
Lastly, there appears to be some contradictory info on the CPU cores though. Some reports claim that the CPU core is derived from the ARM Neoverse N1, which is a 4-way decode, 8-way issue core. But WikiChip on the other hand reports that the Huawei CPU cores are only 4-issue and that they are a custom architecture derived from the Cortex-A72. But the Neoverse N1 is derived from the Cortex-A76. We need more clarification and technical evidence on this aspect though.
Nonetheless, images of the Pangu desktop PC show three USB Type-A ports, one USB Type-C port and a single 3.5mm headphone jack in the front of the case, and there is also room for an optical drive. The rear of the case comes with four USB Type-A ports, one Ethernet port, three 3.5mm audio jacks and a D-Sub port. According to IThome’s report the Pangu PC packs a 23.8-inch monitor with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 with 70% NTSC color gamut.
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Even faster is the speed which it sends your data to the Chinese dictatorship.
Uuuf 100
Laughs in NSA backdoor.
Better them than the chinese.
Concerning worries of political prosecution, depends on where you live, but considering the USA and it’s vassal states long decline of quality of life standards, even then you lose. Assange wasn’t even in the US and he is in jail because of them. China don’t have that kind of overreach.
– Message paid for by your USA overlords
According to the Chinese news outlet……
So china say : China number one
Reminds me of someone else… oh yes MURICA!
Murica is too sh!tty and ghey to even try this sort of propaganda.
fix your typo- ridden post first
Nah, you can clearly interpret what i meant.
I don’t think it’s intended for the Western market.
And nobody really knows how the PC market will look 10 years from now.
Make no mistake…Chinese chip manufacturing/development should be essentially be considered a military weapon. It’s meant to give the Chicoms a leg up in information warfare.
I welcome the competition, why would an USA monopoly be ok with you?
it’s not about USA monopoly. it’s about who’m is trying to enter in this competition. with china there will be no competition but some power hungry people who will try to steal everything from you.
Who are you talking about, jews?
you will face the real threat when it is too late. jews doing things like dominating the world is a myth while these fascist communist party is devouring the world is happening right now. don’t look too far, just look what they did to the world with letting covid19 becomes pandemic.
I’m actually looking forward to it.
Are you saying that other countries such as the US have handled covid-19 better?
So… Power hungry people are all from China? Facebook and others selling your information to everyone is OK?
all from China
That’s an absurd false dichotomy.
just like if usa is not doing that already , invading any country in the wordld with natural resources and steal it
and like if european countries are not doing it already
That sounds exactly like the USA
I welcome worldwide competition in the hardware space. TSMC giving Intel a run for their money is a good thing for example. But China is not a legitimate player on the global market. They’ve gotten to where they are through IP theft and slave labor/sweat shops. Everything they do is designed to prop up the government’s power, at the expense if it’s own citizens and the rest of the world. And state owned companies like Huawei, Tencent, and Tik Tok are tools to help them do so.
“But China is not a legitimate player on the global market.”
And who are you to claim who is and isn’t a legitimate player?
” They’ve gotten to where they are through IP theft and slave labor/sweat shops.”
US based tech companies already got busted stealing privacy from users and they are still around, try harder with the Human Rights bs.
” Everything they do is designed to prop up the government’s power, at the expense if it’s own citizens and the rest of the world. And state owned companies like Huawei, Tencent, and Tik Tok are tools to help them do so.”
Ok, so letting all the flowery humans right BS aside, you are seeing that state owned chinese companies are tools to help their own government? What a novel concept lmao, s/
“Everything they do is designed to prop up the government’s power, at the expense if it’s own citizens and the rest of the world”
Reminds me of the USA.
“Why should anyone welcome competition from Chinese when they support Pakistani terrorist”
Let me stop you right here, if you only want to support companies that are 100% noble and just, then give up and go be a hermit. And frankly, US based tech companies offers much worse precedent.
“This is not a simple tech topic, it’s politics.”
And what topic isn’t really politics? US wanting to ban non jewish owned tech companies just tells me everything i need to know, the US wants to buy tiktok so that the jews at home can jerk off to the teenagers with their Data.
“Good, go and welcome more of this “Chinese competition”, perhaps buying from EGS would help break the “Steam Monopoly””
I only get their free games, i don’t care about EGS since i’m a pirate, but i always find amusing when the Steam fanboys want to resort to piracy just because they can’t buy a single game lmao.
“And America doesn’t shun their people out and grab by their balls and demand to obey the CCP trash and force feed their propaganda.”
America is dildo doctrine and constant humiliation, so you are right on that front, they are much worse.
“And you get free games from EGS, Supporting the same BLM z0g leftist trash that Fartnite was peddling, doesn’t matter if it’s free or not you have account with them and that trash sits in your computer end of story there.”
What was that you said on previous comment? “EGS is an american company”, yes indeed. and while i don’ t have their client installed, i do have windows and Intel CPU, so how about those trash with backdoors to American intelligence?
You are funny
You are ghey.
Hetero, sorry if it offends you
With that kiddie anime avatar, you draw some suspicion at least.
You are full of hate aren’t you? When did I “disrespect” you?
So I am f*g if I use hot chick as profile picture? Makes no sense.
“So I am f*g if I use hot chick as profile picture? Makes no sense.”
That’s exactly the kind of suspicion you draw, you and your hot (kid) chick profile.
at least if there is a outbrake in USA they wont lock you up into your house to DIE
America will just feed you poison so you get obese and your immunity system is too crappy to fight back against the virus and you DIE, a much more humane option don’t you agree?
Ye i know USA also did (dooing) shady sh*t but ffs if you rather live in china in USA then there is something wrong with you
fix your typo- ridden post first so i can see later if there is something wrong with me.
In school i had 3 languages… Non of them ware English. So you can take my typo ridden post and shove it up in your a*s cuz this is the best i got.
Yeah they’d just not give a crap about whether you live or die at all which is why USA holds the 1st place among the COVID cases and deaths induced by it.
Gotta love the spin doctors mental gymnastics, hard to believe they are legit…
Or because Chinese and Russians hide and falsify the data? I do agree that USA went wrong with it
Because U.S isn’t genociding hundreds of thousands of Uighurs for ethnic cleansing??? seems like a good start.
It’s a hoax and you all fall for it.
Satellite images say otherwise, Easy to see internment camps with a simple search.
There is over 500 camps and spies there who can back it up!
Most people here parroting anti China talking points didn’t even know what an Uigher is, most are also anti muslim, it’s really amazing how you guys fall for propaganda.
You blame them for falling propaganda while you have fallen to CCP and Pakistani terrorism propaganda 🙂
Hypocrite
You can’t debunk propaganda with more propaganda kid. People here hate muslims, and yet cry about China treatment of muslims, if that doesn’t tell you the power of propaganda, then i’m afraid you are also indocrinated as well.
Do you not know the difference between internment camps and genocide? You’re just a lapdog for Pompeo.
Dumba$$, the US is the first and foremost when it comes to genociding other nation’s people: first it was Native Americans, then Japanese where almost 200 thousand people perished in the nuclear fire (USA was the only country that used nuclear weapons on other country, on the civilians by the way). Then they induced the Korean Civil war which divided the country and took multiple hundred thousand on victims. Then it was Vietnam where the US dropped more bombs than all countries combined used during World War II. The list goes on and on. The dissolution/disintegration of USSR alone lead to Russia’s population decreasing by 15-20 million people.
You got to be asinine and retarded to view US as some sort of real life Valinor. They created al-Qaeda and ISIS for heavens sakes.
US can even genocide their own population, coronavirus, health care bankrupcy, fecundity rates at all time low, and one of the worst first world country where you can have a family.
The Native Americans is debatable, as the settlers who genocided all those native Americans had been dead for a long while by 1776.
JAPAN???? MF DO YOU EVEN ABOUT THE Nanjing ATROCITIES THAT JAPAN DID???? WTF?????
Korean Civil war, had they not done it, today the entire Korean peninsula would be like North Korea, not like South Korea.
Vietnam they lost , communism won, now vietnam is a 99999th world country.
You really are going to make communism apologism here???? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND??? BLAMING U.S FOR THE SOVIETS DEATH TOLL???? what i’d do to you if i crossed you on the streets you absolute scumbag…
You’re a real poster child for the Western propaganda. Good luck living a lie.
Western Propaganda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communist Propaganda, you don’t belong in the west nor in the free world, you’re a genocide apologist.
Begone coward.
We only torture people in black sites all over the world for being brown. Sure thing.
An attack on your nation is warfare, not “competition.”
Cry more fagg0t, if you want to use these terms, then America is the world first agressor.
cry more f[…]t […] world first agressor
You must be confused; Captain America is the world’s first Avenger.
Your prurient interests aside, stating facts is not “crying” except to tyrants and slaves.
Human history goes back thousands of years. America is not even a quarter of a millennium old.
Someone doesn’t know his history.
I’m talking about the here and now, not some ancient civilization.
I’m talking about
You said “first.” It’s not my fault that historical fact and counting to one are hard for you.
Right, and the USA is worried their constant warfare has some competition to it, so that’s why you see so much anti-China propaganda everywhere. Not to say China’s bad, but you’re just a sucker (or a bot), bending over so the US can keep themselves inserted in your backside.
inserted in your backside
Someone’s projecting.
“China didn’t do anything”
Pompeo? Is that you? Why are you here regurgitating obvious lies and propaganda?
Have they tested the 9900K processor in blender on Linux as well? Because Blender renders faster on Linux compared to Windows.
It wasn’t mentioned whether they used Windows OS, or Linux. But as evident from this benchmark, the Intel processor takes 16 minutes and 45 seconds, in “quick” benchmark. Also, watch the video below.
https://www.cgdirector.com/blender-benchmark-results-updated-scores/
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-intel_core_i9_9900k-890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q99ccKqG3bA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgX2ZJ-md64
I hope they can sell their hardware overseas, but let’s be real, the US is not gonna let go easily hardware without a backdoor to acess by their NSA or Israeli intelligence. Land of the free my A$$.
let me put it simply, do NOT trust china and do NOT buy their products. they are untrustworthy cuz they lie about everything without any remorse . beside that, if you buy their products then you are supporting the biggest tyranny in the world who seek the world domination just like all other fascists in the past.
You are brainwashed
Tfw brainwashed by ghey imperialism…
nah. you just simply didn’t see things that I saw. you wanna see how it feels like living under china’s tyranny ? go and live a couple of years in either china or the third world countries that are their allies.
America propaganda is quite effective when you have people like the above talking about other countries doing “world domination” with a straight face.
talking like this behind a safe curtain sure is easy. instead of spreading nonsense go and live in china
China have pretty much first world standards right now, so why not?
No freedom that’s why!
They all want to come to my country,Not US by the way.
If you think you have freedom, get out in the open saying the n-word or that jews run the world and see how far that goes for you without consequences.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25159cb58d0ec863671e16517d4734c133e52a41742aa40759be3f5189ba0118.gif
Ahhh yess first world štandard
“Won’t somebody think of the poor criminals and terrorists?”
https://youtu.be/DwBaL-5o1oc
So kung pao chicken beat out a cup of coffee.
okay …
How is this relevant for anyone? This is not a server forum. Single-core perf still rules for gaming.
Also, f*k China and Winnie the Pooh 😉
“Also, f*k China and Winnie the Pooh ;)”
And then you ask why they would post about this story, you answer your own question: right wing nerd bait.
hey don’t mention Winnie the Pooh, he might get angry 😉
I can think of several things you can say in the west that might land you in prison, so i’ll settle for one: Try to burn a LGBT flag without concealing your identity and see what happens…
Blame the fascist left for that. But don’t start with whataboutism, this is just stupid. Justifying the non-ability to criticize one’s government by pointing to a different issue?
“Blame the fascist left for that.”
Why can’t i blame the impotent/complicit right?
“But don’t start with whataboutism, this is just stupid. Justifying the non-ability to criticize one’s government by pointing to a different issue?”
I’m comparing the same issue (freedom of dissent), but it is actually worse for us since we don’ t even have the privilege of being considered political prisoners if we dissent against their symbols.
In reality 9900k is around 2m 40s on the Blender BMW benchmark.
Two words: F**k Huawei
Also, I flat out don’t believe them. It’s China, ffs. Do they even know how to tell the truth? lol
You must be amerucan to be this stupid…
Damn, you sure told me. Well done.
And you must be a Chinese puppet. Enjoy having your strings pulled.
Nothing the CIA hasn’t done to you already, you mentally blind sheep.
You don’t get it DamZe, Huawei is pure evil, they make… *checks notes* cheap cellphones…
Do you also hate cellphone manufacturers?
Its better to be spied from someone miles and miles away from you (all the hassle with juridification in general) than from your state where you live….. think about it for a moment. And surprise, surpirse….. all of them are exactly that, doing the same things.
It’s quite well know that US tech companies spies on it’s citizens and it’s allies across the world, but all we got from China companies are allegations of spying, allegations made by the same people that we already know spies on us.
Im against spying in general (Russia, USA, China etc.) and for me all of them are the same….. but if I would be given the choice, I would be rather be spied by China as an European citizen.
It is the best option and “lesser evil” for people who don’t have a chip on their shoulders.
You have Pompeo’s thick meat up your rear cavity. You’re just too dumb to know your strings are also being pulled.
You have Pompeo’s shlong up your a*s.
This isn’t a sorority house for you to vent your feelings like some sort of hysterical woman.
Was this suppose to make sense? Oh well, last time I’ll hear from you anyways.
OMG did i tell you how much i hate Huawei cellphones? Lmao, no one cares about your feelings.
Because hating cellphone manufacturers for no apparent reason is the rational thing to do right? Why is China so Evil?
No reason? Why is it being banned from the UK’s 5G network?
Ok, so you guys work for UK’s government? Say hi to the muslim groomers for me.
Jeez did the US or the UK touch you in the nono place? Or you are getting paid to support the ccp?
It was you that mentioned the UK gov banning 5g as a valid reason to viscerally hate a cellsphone industry, and really, if you hate it that much, it must be personnal, i’m just asking questions.
I hate the ccp and everything what the ccp do and Huawei takes orders from the ccp.
But i didnt liked huawei and other phone companies from china even before cuz thos phones are absolute dogsh.t
“But i didnt liked huawei and other phone companies from china even before”
Even before what? your sinophobic values? But credit where is due, first time in this comment section that i see someone criticizing Huawei for it’s supposed bad quality instead of yet another useless rant about CCP, Corona or Winnie.
No not for sinophobic values you dumb sh.t. I just dony like cheap and not well made things. This CCP and 5g thing is just one more reason i wont tutch chinise tech.
Whatever, it’s not like your devices have anything worth spying over, even your western tech would agree.
Oh boy yes it is.. All them winnithe flue memes or Xijinplague memes 😀 man F china
It’s kind of amusing that you think they would care, unless you are on their borders doing some ghey op.
Making cheap cellphones is worse than r@pe.
I’m sure you got your opinion from living there and not from totally non biased western media s/.
“but also murder/arrest anyone that goes against them.”
Literally any government does that, don’t be ret@rded problematazing the innocuous.
Ah yes, the racist attitude is also a propaganda angle, no one bats an eye, even in supposedly “anti-racist” west(or until it blows back on your faces, since uighers will emigrate to the west soon). You probably hate muslims as well, but got gaslighted into thinking muslim uighers are victims of the CCP. All of you are sheep.
From racist liberal to conspiracy theorist suggesting i’m gaming Disqus, how low will you go next?
That the new strategy of US propaganda? Go straight to racist attacks? You fit right in with Trump’s administration for sure.
“Not to mention China is a literally a hellhole outside of the big major cities”
Found the idiot who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. How much does Pompeo pay you to shill comment sections?
If it is true,it is good news.more competition is better.
This is about china’s self sufficiency regarding its technology. You guys are a bunch of morons. Nowhere it states that they intend to sell this PC/CPU outside of China.
Its for the local market. Also, “”Huawei is trying hard to position itself despite the technology bans levied against it by the United States government”. So stop b***ching for China.
B!tching for China or B!tching against China? More of the latter, and the impotent rage from the people here is kind of amusing.
Yeah Obviously, “against” ! 😀
built-in spying device
Now enough about Intel chips, what do you think about the article?
“plans to replace foreign hardware”
“uses ARM chip”
Ok
Yes, obviously. I was implying the same. This tie-up is for the local Chinese/Asian Market.
And as IThome report also claims, the Kunpeng 920 3211K’s multi-core performance is slightly better than the Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake CPU, thus marking an important milestone of China’s “”technological self-sufficiency””.
Xi is waiting for your 24 cores of data! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/27480d3be8be8d316b00c664d6eeb53e2c44898ecd0b6abb0db00a40342f9ebf.jpg
yeah because amuricnt Sam doesn’t steal anything)))) right?
They even steal our collective sanity with these stupid propaganda, all the SJW bs people hate come from them.
Found Pompeo’s disqus account.
“This won’t be shipped to any countries and no country will buy even if it teleports to moon.”
No Thanks to US sanctions off course, but you don’t mention that tiny detail .
can it run crysis?
‘To get rid of foreign hardware…”
This is the kind of things that makes me puke…
When it’s about invading all the planet with their products, and destroying dozens of thousands of companies in each country, because the Chinese companies can sell their stuff for half the price..or 1/5 of the price, thus depriving governments from taxes from local companies, along millions of people who will lose their jobs..or will shut down their businesses… which affects the entire country, and highly impoverishes it…
.. THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM! and China will feel super offended, if someone says something about that.
Another thing, the chinese country reserves the right to copy, pirate, reproduce and sell EVERYTHING they can put their hands and eyes on.
Any company willing to sell whatever product, in China, must provide a full, complete document, with all the schematics, etc etc, to make sure ‘it doesn’t mess with Chinese laws, frequencies, etc etc”… which is the perfect occasion to fully dissect the product/device, so they can pirate, copy it, and make perfect 1:1 replicas…which, often, they will sell back to the country they copied it from… but much cheaper !
BUT…
when it’s the opposite, when a foreign company wants to sell a product in China, most of the time, if a more or less similar product is already being sold or made by china, the authorities and the trading staff won’t deliver an authorization, and the foreign company can go…fuk themselves.
Because, HEY, China don’t want any kind of competition! That’s perfectly normal, right ? China are ok with invading the entire planet with their sh*t, but they want 0 foreign competition on their soil. It looks fair, right ?
And if by miracle the foreign company is authorized to sell in China, not only they will have to follow millions of strict rules, but the time they start selling, or manufacturing something, their products were already fully pirated, analyzed, reproduced, probably are already being sold worldwide, and the company, well, they can close the doors, and return to their country.
China: we can, but you, you can’t.