CD Projekt RED has just announced that it will be ditching its very own REDengine over Epic’s Unreal Engine 5 for its future projects. And yes, the first game that will be using Unreal Engine 5 will be a new The Witcher game.
According to CD Projekt RED, its partnership with Epic covers licensing as well as technical support. CDPR will be also collaborating with Epic Games’ developers to help tailor the engine for open-world experiences.
Unfortunately, the team did not reveal any additional details about this new The Witcher game. Thus, we don’t have any ETA on when it will come out or the platforms for which it will release. Still, we can safely assume that it will be current-gen only game.
To be honest, this announcement does not really surprise us. After all, Cyberpunk 2077 had major performance and technical issues on pretty much all platforms. Thus, ditching this engine in favor of Unreal Engine 5 sounds like a clever move. And, even at this early point, UE5 already feels more next-gen-ish than REDengine.
Lastly, CDPR confirmed that it won’t be making this UE5-powered game exclusive to one store. In other words, this new The Witcher game won’t be exclusive on Epic Games Store.
Stay tuned for more!
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april 1 joke?
Kinda of soon
Ohh god these days companies dont look for talent but gotta keep those 50-50 male and female numbers, god forbid there is a single one more male in the office
yes, unironicly, without any exaggeration.
Yea. The original team split off and now work for Rebel Wolfs I think it’s called. So tired of watching good art being destroyed by these activist morons.
Yep all the real talent already left the studio, its just another empty shell company
Well for halo I think its not too bad besides making cortana look like from ps2 game and have 0 actual female traits.
Also Starward Industries
starward? Sci fi stuff?
yep .. veteran ex-CDPR and techland devs
“everything woke turns into sht”
Donald J Trump, a god emperor denied of his throne.
Not only have many of the original staff moved on but you have to also keep in mind that during the development of Cyberpunk CDProjekt went from 300 or so devs to over 500. So yeah i wouldnt be surprised if none of the original guys are still around.
Reikon did good, really enjoyed Ruiner and Final Form looks intriguing, really nailed the Ghost in a Shell Japanese Cyberpunk vibes with it’s teaser trailer.
no activists, those are the thugs and fake agitators and propaganda drones, behind is the big publishers business scared by the million sales at day one with cp77
i could make a comparison with an old in time case regarding totally another business area, but which i know better and it would be interesting to listen to
more in general americans do this even against each other…check the movie the aviator by scorsese
Rebel Wolves is pretty new, aint it?
Like 2021 new?
Guess it’s too much to hope it wont have woke trash in it
It’s 2022 mate, everything is woke now.
Damn … they’re discontinuing REDEngine?
Cyberpunk looked better than most UE4 game of its time.
The next version of REDEngine would’ve been jaw dropping if they invested more in further R&D.
Looks like the CP2077 crash hurt CDPR big time. Hence they’re reducing their technical R&D budget and going for off the shelf Unreal Engine.
UE5 might looks good now since its new but once most starts using it … it’ll get boring soon.
Damn … is this this the march towards the slow death of proprietary engines?
Is its going to be UE everywhere in future?
(I like variety in tech landscape and prefer the unique aspects, approach and look proprietary engines bring to the table)
They are not, for now.
They will still use REDEngine for CP2077 patches, content and EXPANSION.
yea … but no new games.
f*** its sad news.
Hope Remedy and others continue to use their proprietary engines.
that engine had tremendous optimisation issues and bugs
not a very efficient one to develop AAA games with
As if we’ve never seen UE games that’s bugged to sh*ts. C’mon man, say what you want all CP2077, no games look as pretty as that.
based on UE4 reputation it can be said with near certainty that UE5 will not be less if not more optimised but yes let’s reserve our judgement until games like Stalker2 or HellBlade2 come out
also in my opinion RDR2 looks a lot more impressive and is far less demanding
i mean shadow warrior 3 did it too for their engine, epic must pay them money.
Yea was kinda dissapointed too when I heard wild hog engine was getting axed
“The next version of REDEngine would’ve been jaw dropping if they invested more in further R&D.”
Alphabet People and Soy People cannot code a basic JS for a web page,and you expect a new and improved RED Engine?
Yep, no one to work on the engine anymore. So it’s dead now. Say what you want anymore CP2077, name a game on the market that looks better than that right now. It was a true next gen looking game.
I read that everyone had a hard time learning and using the REDengine.
I believe it after Cyberpunk’d
The march towards…?
It started like a decade ago!!
unfortunately yeah
The problem with proprietary game engines for the studios developing them is, as you have pointed out already, the enormously rising costs to technically keep up with juggernauts like Epic’s UE5.
However, there is a new free, no-cost alternative emerging on the horizon which has mostly been flying under the radar for now:
Open 3D Engine [O3DE]
(Terrible name, I know…)
The interesting part is the engine’s ancestry:
Crytek’s very own CryEngine!
Yes, thanks to Amazon gifting their Lumberyard fork of CryEngine to the Linux Foundation, any game studio can pick it up and use it to develop commercial games on any platform, no strings attached!
The problem nowadays is finding enough talented people who are capable enough to understand & properly make use of such a beast of a game-engine in the first place.
Only the future will tell…
After checking the Unity Enemies demo, I wish for some new AAA Unity projects as well.
Isn’t Escape from Tarkov on Unity? Also Pathologic 2.
Yup! Tarkov is the poster child of Unity
Do you play it? And if you do, does it worth it? I’m out of things to play and wanna try things out. Cheers!
Try it. Its worth it.
But I’ll say … it’ll take time to get used to … very tactical approach focused.
One of the best looking Unity powered games.
Nice! Since there’s nothing worth coming soon, I’ll definitely try this.
Thank you, sir.
I pirated the offline version, it’s good but after a while gets repetitive, but you will have at least 50 hours of fun managing of iventory.
50 hours of fun managing inventory – that line had me in stitches 🙂
Spend 1 hour managing your loadout, iventory and hideout, go to a raid and gets killed in 4 minutes.
Thanks! I’ll give it a shot.
“next gen witcher”
why?
MONEY!!!
That being said considering the woke shtshow gtavpunk 2077 was, no thanks. You are dead to me.
SleepingDogs 2077 was indeed a shltshow.
Good thing I didn’t pay a dime to play that cr4p.
can you imagine how woke a new witcher would be? I bet it wont even be about Geralt, like the netflix tv show that he takes a backseat to “Stronk female characters”
Exactly. Looks like the end of the road for CDPR.
Excellent, Unreal Engine 5 is the most powerful next-gen engine as we have seen. ?
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Lmao, holy hell man. ??? You win
Probably woke Witcher
The Woker.
The Woker: Hunt For Red Woketober. We are fuqin doomed.
Featuring Brie Larson as the new protagonist. Her romantic love interest being Leslie Jones.
??? make it stop man. You did this ?
Can already imagine what Witcher 4 looks like. It will be mediocre woke fest but it still sell millions because sheep loves it.
When I played witcher 3 it was amazing, I was actually a fan of witcher 2 the mos, I thought finally a good a*s company, now YEAH its over, no way in hell are they not gonna fail witcher 4. Honest to god I just hope witcher 4 does not happen or atleast its not connected to witcher 1/2/3 in any way
Wait, now they are going to ruin Witcher too? CDP is dead.
yeah its over LOL, its dead, and its not even a debate, the actual devs/writers/directors LEFT THE STUDIO
They hired all the diversity mutts who can’t code for shid that’s why they had to switch engines – no one left at the company that understood the old engine and with Unreal Pozz 5 they can hire all the tr00nz they want.
Disgusting.
The story of this one is not gonna come even close to some mediocre quests in TW Trilogy let alone the whole game,as to how “technically” advanced will it be, lets wait and see and as to what to expect? A lot and i mean A LOT of “Rainbow” colors and so much SOY infected characters and narratives it will border on disbelief.
I wonder if the rytards who like your comments know that you’re an unfckable looking racist incel who’s on the verge of mass murder or suicide.
Bye bye Cyberpunk, that was an expensive experiment.
On the bright side UE5 means proper modding support unlike the previous games, but they will be in service of a potential pozzed game since they are pretty much starting their own thing now.
“CDPR confirmed that it won’t be making this UE5-powered game exclusive to one store.”
So they haven’t denied that it may be a timed exclusive on GOG and EGS (and possibly also Ubisoft Connect given that Tencent own a stake in Ubisoft).
Their reputation is on the floor already, so that would be a bad move…especially when they have their own store, but we are talking about CDPR after all.
When I last looked up CDP’s financial statements a couple of years ago it showed that GOG was barely in profit. Something pitiful in the region of $20K for the financial year, if I recall correctly.
Factor in the high cost of C77’s many delays, the number of refunds, it having been removed from the PlayStation Store and the generally negative press it attracted and it seems reasonable to presume it hasn’t been making the level of profits CDP had hoped for.
Maybe the impending online iteration of C77 could be a success but it’s far from assured and has already been delayed while CDPR attempts to fix the regular game.
That seemingly all adds up to a company being in, or soon about to be in, a challenging financial situation. The need to survive may push them into accepting money from Timmy Tencent. Although the reputational damage of the C77 debacle may result in them commanding far less money for a joint timed exclusivity deal (on GOG and EGS) than it would have done back when TW3 was riding high.
Making GOG exclusive would be really dumb on their part, would they pay themselves for exclusivity? EGS more likely, and they would forfeit their own store.
I stated “timed exclusive on GOG and EGS”.
I don’t think Timmy would allow GOG.
Well we all know that we won’t see whatever game for another 8-12 years.
I wouldn’t be so sure. Witcher 3 came out on May 19th of 2015 and CP2077 on December 10th of 2020. So it’s a 5 and a half gap between games and I think investors will want to narrow it down to 4-5 years.
UE is a good engine for consoles
True words.
The CDPR that was couple years back is no more in vision, in culture, and now in technology as well! They was kinda dead for many after Cyberpunk fiasco, but now pretty much RIP!
Hope some of the other multiplatform studios who’re still continuing to invest and keep modernizing their in-house engines.
1] Remedy’s Northlight (even though I thought these guys were the first to convert to UE becoz of their Epic partnership, they still haven’t and I hope they instead showcase via Alan Wake II, how impressive of a game they can make)
2] DiCE’s Frostbite (Not joking right now. EA needs to keep frostbite exclusive to BF and stop shoving it down other studio’s throats. Its a very impressive engine, BF1 and BFV are the proof. Just forget BF2042 for the time being.)
3] Rockstar’s RAGE (enough said, everybody knows RDR2)
4] Monolith’s Lithtech (An engine older than Unreal Engine itself, Shadow of War was damn impressive. But I worry about this one. With fellow WB studios now using Unreal, only time will tell if Monolith will give in)
5] 4A Games’ 4A Engine (Last year’s Exodus’ Enhanced Edition was proof how advanced 4A Games’ development pipeline is. And the devs are pretty invested in their engine’s future)
6] Ubisoft’s Anvil, Dunia and Snowdrop Engines (Ubisoft might get the flak for their open world design and live service integration but their engines are packed with tech and is a very scalable one)
7] Capcom’s RE engine (Fairly new overhauled engine, very optimized, capable of incredible rendering and is very scalable)
8] Eidos’ Dawn and Foundation engines (Impressive pair of engines, although I have doubts regarding these two engines’ future as well)
9] Sony 1st party Studios’ engines (All engines have been showcase of Sony’s 1st party quality and pretty sure most will continue to upgrade and enhance their variant of their engines)
10] Bethesda’s Creation (Bugs are features but its a very unique albeit archaic engine, the mod support alone will compel Bethesda to keep this engine alive)
Last but not the least …
11] Id’s and IW’s idtech and IW engine (Modern versions of unreal’s arch rival idtech engine, highly optimized and scalable ~ these shouldn’t die)
12] Crytek’s Cry Engine (Not as licensable anymore. The whole USP of the engine was bleeding edge tech showcase, can Cry Engine 6 make Crysis 4 relevant again and stand toe to toe with Unreal 5?)
Notable mentions : Luminous engine, Slipspace engine, ForzaTech etc (pretty sure, missing some modern ones)
now this explains a lot about propaganda against cyberpunk 2077, a game with less bugs than most ea or epic games at day one
you may think im crazy but i bought it at day one and except for performance in some areas there were no silly bugs, i would say otherwise, the game was flowing smoothly, it was probably too ambitious for many sistem setups, but now it is one of the most successful games in steam, no surprise
i cannot believe americans…geopolitcs, business, your wives….they want all is yours no matter how no matter how long it takes
technically im not able to say if unreal engine 5 is a better engine but i can see clearly where they come from and where they always end to
but im happy for polish people and their innate hatred towards east west north and south
they play the snobs now, 30 years ago they were employed only in construction area if men or prostitution if women here in italy when lots of them were migrating to here but all left after their country joined EU, unfortunately for EU
I bet they won’t get 8 million pre-orders with this game like Cyberpunk 2077 got. On the other hand the majority of gamers today will buy almost anything and have to have right away before it’s patched and polished.
They said The Witcher 3 would be their last Witcher game.
They said Cyberpunk would be ready.
They said EGS was the devil.
They lied on all 3. Don’t buy.
its not cdproject anymore so its not really them LOL all the OG guys left
Wonder what’s reaction’s gonna be if they announced that they’re switching to CryEngine 5 and will contribute to the engine’s further development for future versions.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the race swaps and shoehorned racial diversity from the Netflix series will be reflected in this new game. Witcher 3 was probably the last AAA game from the before wokeness completely consumed the AAA industry.
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Is this april fools? Why I’m earth would they go backwards? What’s next? Gonna be an epic exclusive too? WTF is going in the the gaming industry! Fuq Me… First Flying Wild Hogs and now cdpr?
F*CK epic store.
We all know that this is the decision of some suits to use an appellative name to sell stuff. The CDPR we fell in love with, died 5 years ago.
Btw, I’m not impressed. Like, at all!
An ex-CDPR dev has shared :
“The people that make this kind of decisions (switching to a different engine) are not making games and are convinced by technical demos and the illusion that they won’t need as many programmers to finish projects. It has happened to me twice in my career so far.
..
The worst part is that after a switch like this, the engine/rendering teams usually change companies, so you end up with a one way ticket. Once you switch to Unreal you can’t ever go back to developing your own engine.”
(I’ll link the tweet below) :-
https://twitter.com/Jonazan2/status/1505949108418367490
F*CK epic store.
will be woke s*it, guaranteed
Good on them! I really hope the next Witcher game strays from all that epic book nonsense with Ciri and just let’s gamers employ clever game mechanics in dispatching monsters in a rich, beautiful and carefully crafted open world with interesting quests and stories with meaningful choice&consequence system.
None of that samey copy-pasted question mark bull crap from TW3 please.
I know it’s a tall order for current day inept developers but a man can dream, right?