Last month, Deep Silver announced that Metro Exodus will be a timed-exclusive title on Epic’s digital store for the PC. Obviously, this frustrated a number of PC gamers – with some review bombing both Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light on Steam – and on Gameru’s forum, a 4A Games developer has expressed his feelings toward this whole situation.
This 4A Games developer with the nickname “scynet” admitted that it was a sudden decision to announce the timed-exclusive deal with Epic Games only one month prior to the game’s release and that it could cause some inconvenience to players. Scynet also claimed that those that decide to pirate the game would have done so, regardless of this timed-exclusive deal, and those are not the players that the developers target.
However, the developer went one step further and stated that if all PC gamers boycott Metro Exodus then the next Metro game (if there is one mind you) will not come out on the PC. Now I’m pretty sure that the developer was exaggerating here but it begs the question; how many PC sales can guarantee the continuation of the Metro franchise on the PC?
Of course, this is the opinion of only one developer and not of the entire studio or the publisher, however it shows how nervous some of 4A Games’ developers actually are. And, to be honest, we all know that the publisher actually makes the final decision. If the publisher wants to release a game on the PC, the developers will either have to develop it or let another team handle that version.
Scynet also stated that 4A Games is currently putting the final touches to the PC version of Metro Exodus, which is currently scheduled for a February 15th release!
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Don’t support this garbage storefront just because these clowns are holding a fictional sequel hostage.
Wasn’t gonna buy it either way but I’ll be sure to ignore the series completely.
So here it is folks. They do what they want without a second tought about what the costumers want, now when they get a huge backlash for their actions they start to threaten the coustumers. What a piece of work these Devs are.
This is also for those who were saying “THIS IS BECAUSE OF DEEP SILVER 4A GAMES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS”, if this don’t open your eyes nothing will.
I like the Metro series but if this is what they want, they can crash and burn for all i care.
To anyone reading – no one made any threats. It was just a common sense comment made by a developer on a forum taken completely out of context. Just one devs thoughts on the reactions of certain people.
Just clickbait title and ignorant people not bothering to read and taking things out of context, like the above commenter. Read the whole thing and take it for what it is and don’t fall for bullshit like most of the comments here.
But what convinces you that Deep Silver has no involvement with the developer’s statement? Do you honestly think the devs are able to make their own call with the franchise as it stands now? I don’t know if Deep Silver owns the IP but I’m sure most of the business and PR decisions are made by them. Makes zero sense for 4A to come out with this without Deep Silver overseeing it.
Honestly, i doubt it that Deep Silver has anything to do with this statement. Otherewise it would have been put on the official Twitter or Steam where it could reach more people.
But maybe i’m wrong but even if i am i’m not gonna buy this game regardless, because i’m not gonna be guilty tripped in to buying it. Maybe when it comes to Steam at a 50% discount or more maybe then otherwise nah. I still didn’t even finisht the fist two i have no rush to play this.
Perhaps you’re right. There’s just no knowing since none of these companies are as transparent as we’d like them to be. So it is leaving an ugly impression on them. But I’m sure most of us are on the same page when it comes to refusing to buy it. It’s downright immoral the way all of these companies are treating the PC player base nowadays.
If that was the case there be no need for Deep Silver in first place
Pretty much. But we all know that 4A wouldn’t be able to make a game of this grand scale if it weren’t for a publisher like DS. Chances are there weren’t any other publisher that would offer them the budget they wanted.
Except the writer has the IP – Dmitry Glukhovsky can just say “well f*k you guys” and go with someone else. They are his novels, his stories. He should do it at this point.
He might have some exclusivity deal like Star wars and EA.
Ah man.
That’d be a damn shame.
someone else you say? Like who ea? Ubisoft?
CD Projekt RED? They are Polish, so Eastern European.
1C? Russian dev/publisher.
they can only do so much.
Focus Home Interactive?
Play Publishing?
playwho?
Budget Polish publisher (Agony, lol)
Also CI Games.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/31a19501ab6fc5fbce6ae55349e9f7276ddc50d302043166ac556810c8a9de98.jpg
The blurry part makes it look like an insanely crafted meme.
It’s real. Just search glukhovsky on instagram and look at his latest posts.
Yeah yeah i checked right after this, and it made this even more of a meme. Actually this is pretty serious and what does he mean exactly with those words? Could it be something like “The fck do i care, my books sold/sell well, fck if i care about their videogame”? I say we should follow everything from a closer perspective.
If the game fails to impress financially, he most likely will.
Yep. Prior to today I was prepared to give the dev’ the benefit of the doubt but not now. 4A Games can go to hell along with their bosses at Koch Media and THQ Nordic.
I don’t pirate games but THQ Nordic’s contemptible actions and buck-passing public response had me contemplating whether to do so for Metro Exodus. This cretinous individual from 4A Games just sealed the deal.
Why do they use Denuvo if they think people will pirate the game regardless of store? are they not confident in Denuvo? haha that is one stupid developer.
And it’s not PC gamers loss, it’s 4A’s! Can’t wait for the following title on DSOG : 4A Games gets closed due to poor Metro Exodus sales.
Enjoy your sales dipf-ks!
It is deep silver policy to implement denuvo to their games
Wow a new low! lower than EA. This tells me the game is so bad they are threatening the customers before its even out.
They are threatening us! You have denuvo why you so worried?
Exactly. WTF LUL
So long 4A. I liked you once.
How to tank your game before it even releases.
BFV all over again. Let’s see how badly this goes for them.
What a bunch of cry babies.
Intelligent response. Now eat your Capt Crunch your mommy put out for you before it gets soggy.
4A seems like EA
Buy our game in the store we say or we won’t launch more games in your platform and if you decide to boycott then all PC players are pirates!
I don’t know why I am trying here because the Epic shills are unrelenting, but it is much more than just a launcher issue. Review system, screenshot support, forums, workshop, chat service, friends list, regional pricing, automated refunds etc etc etc. all things Epic does not have.
What they have is money with which they choose to steal games 2 weeks before release instead of simply making their service more attractive.
owned by a Chinese company, can you say facebook private information scandals? No offline mode.
” give them some time to build up those features. ”
I will give em as much time as they want, but i WONT give them my money for kidnaping my games and demanding i install their cancer. They should have focused time and money to build up those features instead of spending them on securing exclusivity deals.
Steam has never payed for third party exclusives, and you do realize a lot of steam games release on GOG, Uplay, Origin. Plus you can buy Steam keys from Green Man Gaming, Humble Bundle, Amazon and shady cd key sellers!
If Epic wants to make their own developed games exclusive they have every right! But right now all they have is Fortnite. They are buying exclusives with Fornite money, instead of spending it creating their own games and improving their store.
They only have one Epic made game on their store, Fortnite, not to mention the false advertising, how they blindsided the physical edition buyers, how they have said they will not support user reviews. Guess silencing consumers and locking third party games behind one launcher is the lesser evil to you?
Who wins by robbing consumers the right to choose?
And no they do not need to pay, no one in the pc market has ever payed for a third party exclusive, especially after it has been available and advertised on another store for almost 2 years.
They could have offered the discount and let people decide where to buy the game.
And because they payed, now their driving people away and creating hate for their store. So how is that working out for them?
If they want to rival steam they are going about it the wrong way.
Wonder if the Fortnite crowd would prefer to spend 50 dollars on Metro or Fortnite skins!
I would argue that less than 1 per cent of the user reviews on Steam are review bombs.
And is not about expressing my opinion elsewhere, user reviews are there to inform people if a game is worth buying, if a game is well optimized, if a game will run on your hardware, if a game is full of micro transactions, if a game is pay to win.
How is silencing that a good choice? Giving the publishers more power and taking away the consumers voice.
And is because the devs don’t owe us anything, that we owe to each other as gamers to call out when games are full of micro transactions, reskins, poorly optimized with no patches in sight or just plain bad.
Last of Us was payed for and published by Sony Computer Entertainment, you know the owners of PS4, Metro Exodus was not payed for and developed by Epic. If that were the case we wouldn’t be having this conversation. That’s why when Nintendo payed and financed Bayonetta 2, people had no choice but to accept it.
And I am angry, I will not let a company dictate where I can buy my games from, unless that company developed, financed and published said game.
Might does not make right. A wrong action is just that no matter how you try to justify it. The fact that you think Epic is the lesser of the 2 evils tells me that you are a lost cause. Good luck.
If Steam was a Monopoly they would have used their market power to stop games going to other stores, that simply hasn’t happen.
Monopoly:
Example:
Assassins Creed Odyssey is sold on Uplay, Greeman gaming, Steam so doesn’t meet that criteria of both.
I would have been more than happy to give them time until they started with the sleazy tactics. If you try to blackmail me into using your launcher by holding a game I want to play hostage, then you have lost whatever goodwill i may have had for you and i will NEVER use your service. They are sleazy and that has nothing to do with a Steam monopoly that has everything to do with Tim Sweeney.
My Steam anniversary date is the release date for Half-life 2 i don;t need a history lesson. Steam wrote, developed and published Half-Life 2. It was their product to do with as they liked. Just like no one is complaining about Fortnite being an Epic exclusive.
Metro is a 3rd party developed game that Epic hijacked away from gamers in an ill-advised attempt to blackmail people into using their service. It is apples and oranges.
Steam has NEVER paid money for a developer to exclusively sell their game on Steam. What part of that do you not get? You have to be a shill for Epic. I’m done.
Except tht Steam never had a monopoly. Seriously do you even know what the word means? Look it up, since I’m fairly sure that it’s not what you think it is. And a launcher that has the same features that another one had 14 years ago is not something you should be proud of. We’re not in 2005 anymore but 2019, even UPlay had more funtionality then what the Epic Store has now.
I see more games selling with hype with the console exclusives coming to pc. Offer people a game with the “if you buy it more will come” deal. So far it seemed to have worked with Yakuza.
Ultimatum? I hate threats especially against a potential customer, i was mad at denuvo being added but had no problems with epic launcher…but if its their mentality towards their customers then i wont buy it even at a discount
Steam takes 30% from devs. Epic takes 12% form devs and the extra from buyers. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dd9847d679fc80a44762889041f69e884279a8e700d5e00185f1c7fad35cac25.jpg
If it does not sell well? lol are you kidding me. Maybe they should keep it on Steam then instead of selling out for some more money by putting it on another store that many people don’t even know about.
It’s also comes down to trust as well. Many people don’t know jack about The Epic Game Store.
And another thing that caught my attention is by them selling on Epic for a year they must be making even more money because they are even selling it $10 USD cheaper then if it was to sale on Steam.
but dude that 30% that steam takes….they could make so much money by initial sales, that will be used to pay the ridiculous price that denuvo license costs, which its gonna get cracked anyway.
It is not the devs decision to which store they will sell their games it is publisher’s
Great. I hope it will be cracked on 1st day. And finally we look at the end of this cheesy story.
You can bet that the cracking community will see this, and if i know how they think, they’ll concentrate everything on cracking this, such a scum move i think would be the last straw after denuvo and after epic exclusivity.
Not the first, not the last.
Nup, f#$k that. I definitely wont be buying any of their games ever again. Screw them.
Yea I’m calling bullshit. Making money in the video game industry is hard enough . Leaving out PC sales would be dumb
Saying it is enough, regardless of them doing or not doing it.
by the way… It was PC that made Metro series popular in the 1st place… No console players gave a f – – k about 2033 when it came out…
Then I’ll play something else. A single game will never be more important than PC gaming.
Considering most of the fans of the series is on the PC. This was a very smart move on their part /s. I would expect something like this from EA. But hey each day brings surprises.
Now I really want to see how well/badly the game sells.
F**k Epic, 4A and stupid Fortnite
I hope everyone read the article. It’s not 4A or Deep Silver saying this. It’s one employee and since he has a big mouth I doubt that’s he’s even in management or has any involvement in decision making or he would show more restraint with his comments.
Yeah that is fair enough if just him and his view but I doubt it because the gaming industry is very conceited and has been for years.
He might very well be representing the Developer/ Publisher accurately but I’ve never heard of the guy and don’t know how reliable he is.
In any case, I will wait for the game to hit Steam and pick it up on a sale.
Agreed.
Oh my god… Now they are play terrorist and say what they demand?!
What’s next? They will ask for Metal Gear Rex? (hehe)
Sorry but 4A need to take some PR lessons, that’s not how you speak to community, consumer.
People VOTE with YOUR WALLETS, let’s show them that PC gamers are no weaklings that you can threat, if they want leave PC market let them go, the doors are open maybe console players will like their behavior and treatment.
Have the developers suddenly forgotten that these are *storefronts* with tangible pros & cons to the consumers? Imagine the outrage if physical stores pulled a stunt like this — where the only con is cost. Instead we have also have to deal with lack of an offline mode, a less reliable refund policy, inferior data protection & no achievement tracking.
Exclusivity just tells us you have zero confidence in your service. The worst part is this practice only works until Steam pulls the same stunt — then what? No winners, only losers. The consumers. Thanks Epic Games.
Fact of the matter is, I was going to buy this day one. Now I might get this in a 75-90% sale in 2020. Might.
Nice to finally find someone who sees the absolute big picture. Nicely put.
I don’t care about the Epic store exclusivity, I don’t worship lord Gaben in his Steam church like I owe him something, but threatening people about not buying it? Yeah, you can shove your game up yours 4A.
You don’t understand the situation and the implications for the gaming industry. It’s fine not to understand, and you’ve admitted you don’t care, as most casuals won’t, but don’t pretend that it’s “steam worship.” just because you lack the ambition to educate yourself.
I learned long time ago when people say “go learn/ educate yourself” they don’t have any idea what they are talking about, people who do just explain.
One universal monopolistic store with dozens of exclusives every single day is nothing but a recipe for disaster.
Gotta laugh at how the guy nicknamed Jen-Hsun Haaa due to him being a fanboy zealot of one company having the nerve to ridicule others for liking another company. Much self-awareness, lol!
Cool with me, these 4A games retards think they can threaten us and get away with it.
To anyone reading – developer didn’t make any threats. It was just a common sense comment made by a developer on a forum taken completely out of context. Just one devs thoughts on the reactions of certain people.
Just clickbait title and ignorant people not bothering to read and taking things out of context, like the above commenter. Read the whole thing and take it for what it is and don’t fall for bullshit like most of the comments here.
This ignorant person here, went on that forum and checked that part of the post, and it seems to be saying exactly what was reported, i don’t understand russian but translator will do enough, besides such thing shouldn’t be said even as a figurative speech after all the BS they put up.
Then you should work on your comprehension skills.
All the dev was saying was the reaction of “I’m not going to buy it because of store exclusivity” was over the top. That’s the point he was trying to make. You can tell that comment is from a passionate developer of the game, not a PR representative.
So yes, ignorant, and it’s because of ignorant people that devs can never put out honest forum post like this, instead you need a PR wall behind everything.
No you should work on comprehension skills because it’s you alone contesting this, you and another guy on the russian forum.
lmao, it’s funny how idiotic the gaming crowd can be. Such basic comprehension. You really think the dev is coming there trying to threaten customer base xD
Read the whole post ffs. It’s so clear what he’s saying.
Again, it’s only you and a few other saying this, most of people understood that completely.
Devs can’t do threat like this, publisher can. The decision on which platform devs developt in the next game is belong to publisher. This devs is just worry that maybe they can’t develop the sequel on pc.
That’s not what he said at all.
I play on PC and PS4, I will not buy on both systems 😀
Same here. I bought the original games on PC and then bought the redux versions again on PS4 and I’m not going anywhere near this game.
Dasvidania guys!
They’re Ukranians so it’ll be “?? ?????????”.
Well f**k off then, i know i wont miss you, hope the door slams you on the way out
Extortion does not make me want to support you. Every move 4A and Deep Silver make seems like they actually don’t want me to buy their game and are trying to convince me to spend my money elsewhere.
hahahahahahahahaha
I went to the original thread and posted this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01973dd5d7327e6d3516fe53ec3ed056150452c2a8ede3e907e4e2772e20b4f3.png
steam uplay, origin, bethesda launcher, epic, gog, a bunch of mmo ones…omg how many of these?
No, it has to run with the game. And Epic Launcher has no offline mode.
Except on this case not every customers have benefits
First is the features that Epic offers compare to Steam
https://imgur.com/yDWOJwB
Second is their security problem along with customers support, a lot of people having issue with their service like continuously received security mail about someone trying to hack your account, then there is customers support, even trying to request refund is a headache, many people are getting refused even though they met all criteria, some are not getting responded util their refund limit time are already passed, that’s the problem of Epic, while steam you rarely met them, steam even accept your request if you’re missing some criteria with a valid reason, or none whatsoever security issue like Epic
And about price being cheaper on epic sorry to say it’s not really true for majority of people
https://www.reddit.com/r/metro_exodus/comments/als7jq/metro_exodus_regional_pricing_steam_and_epic/
I didn’t said I saw the Epic shop client on my system as a problem
Superb comment.
you answered your dumb question. because shepick launcher is a problem (aka shet) while steam is not.
This guy sounds like a idiot as well.
I am not gonna act like a c3nt, i will be honest, i am not a fan of metro, many say this game isnt like the others, i see somewhat open world as opposed to the open world trash and it looks like a great survival horror game. Its better than flopout shttysix and far cry reskined dawn, i want the game to do well and the small studio to grow…hopefully without hiring sjws in the marketing/human resources department.
But this is getting ridiculous, epic store sucks, ok i get it steam takes 30% and the small studio whose games go on a sale often need more money, but why exlusive to epic? Atleast put it on gog. Oh thats right denuvo, but here is the thing.
“also claimed that those that decide to pirate the game would have done so”
So denuvo from what i have seen in its long running career DOES NOT guarantee sales, it failed miserably back then when it was uncrackable and you got situations in which cracked day 1 mafia 3 and mad max a bit later sold great but uncracked games didnt, even just cause 3 that took over a year to crack and was advertised by every youtuber didnt sell well. So if metro is gonna get cracked anyway and pirates who dont buy games are gonna get it…..WHY DID YOU PUT DENUVO IN IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
I mean fck me what dafuq do you want? Cpy to crack it in a day and remove the epic launcher, in order to get that this is only harming consumers?
Geez, all you have to do is release the damn game on steam or on gog without denuvo.
This article never mentions how the situation was never fully quite explained to this developer, and how many people try to explain Epics garbage tactic to him afterwards!
However I will not support Epic and their third party exclusivity crap!
When Metro releases on steam in 2020 due to Deep Silvers greediness and Epic toxic meddling I’ll buy and support 4A.
This article will just drive people to buy the game on the Epic Store or make people hate the game and the developer, and finally, add to the toxic newly born console wars discussion Epic has brought to PC gaming!
No big loss. NEXT!
BUY OUR GAME ON CHINA EPIC LAUNCHER OR ELSE.
ehmm dude, this is why people hate ea and origin, this is why people hate bethesda launcher and fallout 76. Dont be like ea you freaking morons, be pro consumer.
valve takes 30% but it promotes the game and has good services, epic is china based cancer with no offline mode and barebones.
Oh lmao, they try to hold us as hostage with the threat. Nope, have non of it.
Shame
Bloody Epic dont even have confirm on exit option and they blackmail people with it… Thats low… Really low!
what a buntch of RETARDS
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I would urge everyone not to buy this, but also not to pirate it. Not because the devs deserve it, but as to not give them a reason to point at pirating numbers and say: “Look! PC gamers only pirate! That’s why our game sold so bad.” Just don’t play it. There are hundreds of other awesome games to play.
It does not matter. Even if the game sells like crap, they will still blame pirates. Because logic xD
making demands now, how low can you get? i hope to God that this game bombs on PC, because saying these threats in order to make people buy it on epic store, deserves every bit of backlash this game has got.
That’s totally fine 🙂
Aren’t the first 2 Redux games on GoG? How did it come to this?
Yep, and so are the Stalker games. All very good games imo. Maybe in a couple of years Metro Exodus will be there too. It took a while for Metro 2033 and Last Light to be available on GOG also.
then don’t make one. just go and burn. We don’t need exclusive garbage like this.
That’s far from good PR.
I wonder how much Denuvo costs to implement ? Talking about every fee related to denuvo. Anybody has that answer? I’m not for Denuvo and i’m not for their recent move to Epic’s store, just to clarify. I wonder if they would’ve dropped Denuvo and kept it on Steam (with premium % to Valve) the game would’ve made more money ? I mean more sales etc.
I know that, maybe i wasn’t clear enough. I was wondering if all the financial benefits of denuvo+epic outweights steam userbase/potential sales.
I would like to know that too and if I may add to your queries, if it is true that a Publisher has to pay Denuvo nothing if a game gets cracked within a certain time frame? There are a lot of rumors out there but I’m not an insider in game development so I have no idea.
I wonder that too. If that’s so it would be in their interest to « crack » their own game and publish it. Then they’d have the protection minus the $ fees. But then again, acting like so, why not just forget about Denuvo…
Crack their own game to avoid paying Denuvo after getting the initial release sales profits. That’s funny as hell. Who knows what really goes on behind closed doors anyway.
k bye you won’t be missed. All i want now is for these terrible anti-consumer devs to shut up and stop crying.
Well f*ck you too
Good.
Looks like the only ‘storefront’ that going to win this is CODEX.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/2116fb219b6ce405fe018526d03e24cd/tumblr_inline_n04pnju70O1ssbkkq.jpg
An interesting observation right there, i.e. the only real competition surrounding this game’s release will be the ‘battle of the torrents’ between codex, cpy, fitgirl, etc. ?
I gotta say, I take my hat off for this statement, it really motivating not to buy this game even after 1year delay on steam. The lack of respect of publisher and Developers is outstanding. Great move to attack the fanbase and threaten them, I would expect EA to do that, but this is just wrong.
you can’t choose how you born, but you can choose how to die
yeah, you’re half-dead now 4A
És még nektek áll feljebb? Elfelejtitek honnan indultatok?
Actions speak louder than words.
Did they seriously miss what happened to the game(BF V’s “don’t buy it”) that gave gamers ultimatum? I love the Metro series but man I would LOVE to see this game get the BF V treatment
I’m not educated enough to understand this comment.
BFV servers are mostly full 😡 i’m always on queue to find a match when i look at the server browser lmao
It’s much better than “do you guys not have phones?” and even “either accept it or don’t buy the game” about battlefield5))) lol. Hope they get what they deserve
Many gamers have survived just fine without EA, ubisoft, activision and their ilk. Won’t be any different with 4A
I was going to buy it exactly to appreciate the devs. But the exclusive thing shows they don’t appreciate us. So why should I be in a one sided relationship. I can live without giving money for metro. And if they think not releasing on pc will make their next game not piratable I guess they misunderstand how big the pc market is and will be when the next game comes. They are only shooting themselves in the foot
You either buy Metro Exodus at Epic Store or I SWEAR TO GOD you ain’t seeing a sequel. I dare you, I double dare you not to buy it where we tell you to, you motherf-
People who don’t actually read the source ?
WOW! JUST WOW!
Yeah like you, go read the source.
I did, and all of this ‘threatening customers’ is complete bullshit. The point the dev was making was pretty easy to understand.
Maybe people just don’t have comprehension skills these days. Oh well.
or maybe you can stop being a shill and save yourself from getting b**tf*ed…. or maybe you like getting b*tf*ed…. who knows.:D
It’s not threat. 4A doesn’t have any power to make the decision that they will put the sequel on pc or not, he just speak his vision (part of his frustation too) that deep silver will cancel out the metro sequel on pc or even not making any sequel at all.
Are we some kinda punching bags?.lol.Kick us,punch us and when you are done again kiss us.Lmao
actually studio can refuse on making game. and if A4 will refuse, even if Deep Silver would disband them, they can just make new studio.
and Deep Silver will lose the right to make Metro sequels from that point on. studio can also leave parent/owner company.
Dmitry Glukhovsky. the author of metro. he had contract with A4 for using his book to make a game, not with Deep Silver. and if DS lose A4 they also lose the contract for making the game, thus would break copyright law.
even simple workers can refuse to do something they dont feel is right, like micro’s devs refuse to make the HoloLens.
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or maybe you can just admit I’m right. So f*king obvious what the dev is saying but you circlejerkers are too far up each other’s arses xD
Or maybe both the devs and you can go and eat a bag full of decks as far as i care,lol.I do not care what the devs feel.If they don’t release where I want I will just pirate it or probably not play.. It’s a game only…who da fock cares so much.XD.Circlejerking is fun tbh…for both sides….If steam feels threatened they will improve,lol.The devs are entitled to feel what they like as much as I am entitled to do what i Feel like :D.P.S-“GAMERS RISE UP.EA BAD.”
go and pirate, and take the rest of 99% dsukkers with you, so next game will be on consoles only, that u wont be able to pirate. now go and suck on that bag full of decks loser…..
PS, ppl that would pirate it would do it anyway, so dont blame it on being on epic store, it sjust that u sad fk cant afford game. and u prolly pirated it the moment it got released on torrent…….
No it’s not and it’s exactly what it sounds like, if you can’t understand that there’s nothing to talk about. Besides 4A Games still hasn’t released any statement regarding this.
“No it’s not and it’s exactly what it sounds like”
pains me how retarded gaming community can be sometimes. Dev makes a comment. It’s pretty clear what he’s saying and why he’s saying and what his point is. One single comment on a f*king forum.
You geniuses turn it into this nonsense. Clickbait journos love people like you 😀
You don’t understand how that sounds, and you’re one of few, that sounded like a threat and there’s nothing you’ll say that’s going to change that.
do they have to? they simply dont give f about crying bittching losers like you.
its simple, u like game? u buy it.
u dont like it dont buy it, go fkn pirate. PC sales, no matter how much there be, will be still just extra money flow. as the console sales did cover expenses + gave profit anyway. and if next game wont be on PC, they still profit enough…
look that exclusive game, Detroit become human,, how much did it cost to dev? 58 mil? how much they got from sales? huh?? they dont need PC to profit from games, PC is just extra money, they can survive without it, if they have to, to teach your kinds a lesson…. (tho most of big bosses are greedy and still try to squeeze max profit possible)
Shut the fck up idiot, this discussion is a month old and you come here vomiting bs just to annoy me. Get out, devs like these deserve nothing, plus the game is pretty poor, and you console retrd can go fck urself, they can’t teach me sht, i can teach them how their stupid game can fail if they say stuff like that. Get out russian idiot.
Beside, nice new account you stupid retrded idiot, you are as stupid as you sound. What’s your problem? We hurt your stupid russian console sht game? Poor thing, you must be so mad.
well all i can see, youre just fkn preteen loser kiddo that can only cry and b**ching around . and then try to offend me here,,,
but, take step back to reality loser.
youre useless piece of trash, nothing more or less.
noone give f how old this thread is. doesnt change the fact how dumbsht u r, and all u said.
now go pirate som,e game bc they are not on steam (tho i bet you pirating all games, and on forums just talk big, tho all u say is either just useless bs u scope out of your a’s, or sad atempts to offend som1 when you clearly have nothing to say. which just proves again how dumb slowpoke kiddo u r.
now go cry more loser. bc there are so many things in this world that arent set for your comfort…
cry me a river.
nice new acc?? i fkn created this acc like 3h ago, youre dumbfk. but just curious, what my ‘old’ acc supposed to be? lel,, dumb kiddo
PS: only BS ive seen in this thread comes from you kiddo.. about 70%. rest 30 are prolly your buttbuddies….
PS, my PC cost 2490 euro + 180 euro on top for 2 extra 16GB rams to hit total 64GB. with RTX 2080.. i could buy 7 consoles for that lel..
now cry me another river kid..
PS: i buy new PC every 2 ears untill now. this time ive bought monster and im sure it will last atleast 4-5y, untill it wont be able to run new games on ultis in 4k and il have to buy new
Yeah now go buy a dictionary and a brain, you worthless retrd. Leave this site idiot you’re a stupid pile of retrded russian sht
i guess your name shows your brain status huh?? lmao, poorling
At least i have a brain.
you sure about that kiddo? bc i highly doubt that….
What you think doesn’t matter because you’re a stupid russian without a brain, so you’re not capable of elaborating anything.
lel,, youre so funny little ukrainian kiddo, go cry another river, or keep chewing on that dck. poor loser a*s. noone in this world give flying fk about you, not even your parents, prolly the reason you live in basement huh..
Nah i’m no russian sh*t, you are. Talking to me about living in basements and the thirdie of the discussion here is you. You demented gipsy sh*t, go get a brain and then maybe we can talk, not wasting more of my time with a piece of flaming trash like you.
take step back to reality, b4 writing to you how dumb shet piece of trash you are, i did read few dosens of your dck chewing bs, where you keep spitting bs you have bno idea about and offending everyone, youre just fkn kiddo with damaged brain, simple as that, sad ukrainian poor sh*t that cant even buy games, so raging bc game withdraw from steam and u did think that pirated version will come months later..
your kinds are reason why soon games actually wont come out on PC. tho most of ppl unlike you can afford consoles and even pay subs monthly on top of buying games….
now go chew on that dck more, and plz bark again, i really enjoy reading each of your sad comeback atempts… really funny lil kiddo
the reason you sad shettard kiddo privated your profile so ppl cant see that all 100% of comments u did write here is exactly same, full of dumbest bs mixed with nonstop insults..
just fkn 14yo loser
ukrainian*
Same sh*t, sometimes even worse.
that was a typo correction about message b4 it, thats still pending, re**rd,, its YOU ukrainian fgt, thats too obvious…
lmao, said one whos 100% of posts just b***hing and offending every1, just shows how useless piece of trash you are,, braindamaged…
piece of sad poor sh*t that cry bc game did withdraw from steam so the pirated version would come out later, if they didnt go to steam earlier, and pre-orders wasnt made, then youd have to wait for pirated game for months more still..
now poor shet go cry me another river, i know u want to….
PS. it looks like youre fkn krainian sh*t, u dislike russians so much, you see one in everyone who tells u how fkn dumb piece of trashling u r…
i feel sorry for you, really do,,,, wait, what? i dont give flying f about ya nublet.
It’s obviously a tactic to lure customers into buying it. If anything their publisher, Deep Silver, is making 4A Games come out with these statements.
Yeah sure, keep believing that if you want.
It’s a theory 😛 But I’m quite certain that’s the case.
No that’s not the case, but if you want to believe that go ahead.
Any proof? People seem to jump the gun without questioning things. I still think what the guy said was a very cheap move and people have the right to be mad. Heck, even I’m annoyed about it and think the idea of pirating the game is more valid than ever. But nobody knows what’s happening behind those closed doors with all these companies. I just know that the developer likely hasn’t got all that many rights to decide the future of their IP unless they go indie.
No proof but not even a statement from 4A games yet, and it’s been more than a day.
Even if they came forward with a response to the outcry I doubt anyone would buy it. Unless Deep Silver has a change of heart and releases the game on Steam. It all depends on the agreement they made with Epic.
It’s surely better than nothing, besides this has nothing much to do with all the steam/epic store thing, it’s the post made by the dev(alleged) on that forum being the problem now.
Yeah, I guess so. We’ll just have to wait and see how things unfold before the game launches.
Yeah, but i don’t see anything change, except maybe an apologize from them for those words, or maybe a clarification in case it’s not one of their employee.
So not only did they do an anti consumer move but now they’re threatening potential customers. I guess we will see those sales figures after all if the game bombs.
Every Metro game sold poorly across the board. The only reason why they can afford to make more is becouse the devs are from a third world country working for peanuts.
Metro redux alone sold 1.5 million copies by early 2015, where on earth are you seeing that they didn’t sell well, or is that statement based on no research?
Shows how little you know about the industry when you think 1.5 mil is impressive. Games like the original Tomb Raider reboot as far back as 2013 selling 3.4 mil in a month was considered a disappointment. Go a bit closer and you have RE7 with 4mil in about 2 months, again a disappointment. We recently had ME Andromeda which is estimated to have sold about 2mil in the first 6months, the studio got disbanded.
This isnt 2005 anymore, an example of a succes today is the likes of Battlefield 1 with 20mil copies sold. Heres another example, Overwatch, over 35mil, how much money you think they pull in through microtransactions on top of that on a monthly basis?
THQ doesn’t talk much about sales but I decided to do some research for you.
Can’t post the link but google engadget metro 1.5 million
In short:
Metro 2033 had sold 1.5 million units by this time, so around 2 years. Though not amazing compared to a AAA other articles say the developers still considered this a great success.
Can’t post the link but google polygon metro eclipse
in short:
This article explains that just for retail copies, within the first week they eclipsed the sales numbers for 2033. So its an easy assumption that in its lifetime last light has sold millions of copies.
Both of these games were considered critical and commercial successes, you are straight up incorrect in your statement.
Your issue is you are tying “success” to a static # sold. Success is purely tied to the projected number sold and the percentage profit achieved above production value. The budgets of the metro games up to this point has been minuscule compared to RE7, ME Andromeda. Andromeda and all of the other games you mentioned. Andromeda cost 100 million to make so yeah only selling 2mil units wasn’t going to cut it. The only estimates i could find for the metro games was under under 5-10 million on the first game, and less than 20 for last light. The reduxes were simply remasters so their budgets would be minor as well. Given all that, these games have been massive commercial successes.
“Shows how little you know about the industry”, lol check yourself. For a non-AAA developer selling millions of units in many cases means great success for your game / franchise.
Which was exactly my initial point, Metro only exists becouse the devs are from a third world country with barely any labor laws in place.
Also, you seem to be under the impression that simply turning some form of profit constitutes a succces, which is not how things work in the corporate world. Like EA didnt cancel all those singleplayer games becouse they knew they would flop, they cancelled them becouse they knew even a successful singleplayer game would only garner them a few mil in sales with no consistant revenue stream and very little room for growth.
First, I completely disagree with your initial point. I believe given their sales numbers they would be able to be successful in many other countries.I don’t know enough about labor laws in that country to speak one way or the other, but just given the size of 4A and the rough numbers of units sold, cheap labor is definitely not the only thing keeping the franchise alive.
Also you continue to use the worlds largest AAA developers in an attempt to explain things for 4A which is not anywhere close to a AAA studio. Many companies continue to roll single player titles and titles without micro transactions. EA does what they do because of their size and because they are publicly traded. Stop using their decisions and their terms of “success” to discuss much smaller studios, its an apples to oranges comparison.
THQ doesn’t talk much about sales but I decided to do some research for you.
https://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/metro-2033-sales-reach-1-5-million/
Metro 2033 had sold 1.5 million units by this time, so around 2 years. Though not amazing compared to a AAA other articles say the developers still considered this a great success.
https://www.polygon.com/2013/5/31/4384350/metro-last-light-sales-success
This article explains that just for retail copies, within the first week they eclipsed the sales numbers for 2033. So its an easy assumption that in its lifetime last light has sold millions of copies.
Both of these games were considered critical and commercial successes, you are straight up incorrect in your statement.
This was a single developer and he didn’t threaten anything. He simply stated that if there really is a boycott and there are few sales then another metro game likely wouldn’t’ release on pc. Its unlikely the publisher would give them money to move it to pc in this situation, its not like this lone developer is saying, buy it or else.
And if there is low sales for it being exclusive on Epic Store then it will happen anyway so he can’t prove it’s a boycott. I think he met a threat with a threat. The guy potentially created a PR disaster on top of an already sensitive subject.
I don’t get what’s the big deal about the game being an exclusive to the epic store. Steam isn’t a charity or a none profit.
when you have your profile picture as a your companys logo and you be a dev yourself…its pretty much you are speaking for your company itself….as stated by some guy above,they need pc players,not the other way around.
4A morphing into EA. ?
From what i see, they already completed the morphosis.
The Ranger Mode greed with Metro Last Light showed their early potential to mix with the scummiest of companies but there’s not yet been enough failed SJW pandering and lootboxes for that.
Yeah could be.
I can roll with the idea that a women was their best sniper because it’s not something that a man has an advantage in. I mean if she’s one in 10,000 then I could roll with that too.
We felt like in today’s world – I have a 13-year-old son that when the trailer came out he asked me, ‘Dad, why’s this happening?’ He plays Fortnite, and says, ‘I can be a boy sniper in Fortnite. Why are people so upset about this?’ He looked at me and he couldn’t understand it. And I’m like, okay, as a parent, how the hell am I gonna respond to this, and I just said, ‘You know what? You’re right. This is not okay.’ These are people who are uneducated.
– Patrice Soyderlund ?
I know what you mean, not had an issue with my son but he’s only 5, I somewhat fear for the future though.
??? My sides bro. You’re Wild’n out Homie. ?
You’re welcome!
I added the comedy riff on Patrick Soderlund’s name in an edit due to not being certain if CommonSense Come Back quite got the reference.
Spoken like a true out of touch corporate scumbag!
this made me chuckle
thing is dont look everything from a sjw perspective.Else you will not be able to enjoy anything.morever the entire world is not burgerlandia so i guess they are not so toxic,lmao
So any game with a female lead is pandering? If your serious you’re a complete idiot. I’m mean a cimplcom idiot.
Yep, me too albeit perhaps not to the same extent due to the aforementioned Ranger Mode greedy incident back in 2013. Also, the miserly discount they offered to M2033 and MLL owners to ‘upgrade’ to the Redux editions didn’t do them any favours either.
Such details aside, it’s a sad day to see 4A Games end up this way after how much goodwill and positivity deservedly once surrounded them in the PC community.
Wow so now they are threatening the customer? ok how about this. Dont make a sh**ty game so we BUY IT.
Yea this tactic wont work on me. Take your sh*t and put the next game on the NES for all i care. Scum.
I mean, that is how these things always work. People don’t buy it, they won’t continue to make it.
fascinating thing about sore losers like this guy is that they always find a way to suck a dik.
Wow, they’ve actually resorted to guilt tripping consumers into rectifying their stupid business decision for them. These guys can seriously bugger off, for all I care.
Except Dmitry Glukhovsky, the writer, can go elsewhere with his ideas and f you over.
Oh no.
Piss off, 4A.
Is this a new low? threats? they can f**k off, i hope the game bombs regardless of how good it is.
…and all the blame would go to Deep Silver and Koch Media.
To anyone reading – no one made any threats. It was just a common sense statement made by a developer on a forum taken completely out of context. Just one devs thoughts on the reactions of certain people.
Don’t buy the bullshit like most of the commenters here
Exactly. It’s common sense. Why would they bother wasting resources on a PC version when PC gamers are just gonna boycott their games ?
Hey dement get the fck out of here, you’re out of place here and there’s sites for people like yourself.
PC gamers aren’t boycotting their game, they’re boycotting Epic. But the devs don’t care about that, they just care about those sweet bribe from Epic to refuse to sell their game on other stores. Scum like that deserve to be in the unemployment line.
Devs cant even decide what store they will put into, they didn’t make the decision. They can’t decide what platform they will put the game on either. He just express his worry that deep silver will decide that pc pc version isn’t necessary because the low sale that happening.
Thank you for calling people out on this.
Yeah, common sense all you like, but it’s idiotic to come out with a comment like this at this moment.
Nope, it’s reasonable is all. Unlike most of the comments here which seem to belong to people who didn’t read the full comment of the dev.
A dev made a comment on a forum. And if you actually read the comment, it’s pretty clear what he’s trying to say.
“Threatening PC customers”
What a load of bullshit.
Sounds good. Have good one there, 4A Games.
Let me put it that way. Consumers can live without product. A product can’t exist without consumers.
Was this copied straight from the Reddit thread lmao
Truth spoken tho.
Yes. And I think that this is some more truth that 4A need to be very clear in understanding:
“… and stated that if all PC gamers boycott Metro Exodus then the next Metro game (if there is one mind you) will not come out on the PC”
Such a statement is outrageous and could backfire on 4A and Deep Silver. They do it to themselves (and us interested in playing the game), and then have the audacity to blame and blackmail their fans?
“Scynet also claimed that those that decide to pirate the game would have done so”
The lies developers who make terrible decisions tell themselves to make themselves feel better. Scynet… just to give you that bit of 3rd-person logic check that you need to have reality confirmed to you so that you can’t run away from it very easily, here: What you said is very untrue, and your choice to withdraw from Steam, and the way you chose to do it, is going to result in a huge number of people pirating ME who would otherwise not have thought of pirating it.
youre just bttching bc they decide to not stay in shittest greedy a*s platform aka steam feeding pigface gaYben…
trust me, more and more games will stay away from steam.
multiple reasons,, its already 2019 and steam still holds the solid fee of 30% per sale, while epics take only 12% if i rem right. or something like that. most others take between 15-20.
when its about bestseller games, then we talk about extra millions of dollars/euros they have to give up by letting steam put the game in store..
who want to buy game will buy it on epic. but as human is. you have to be b***hing a bout everything,,
now, any dev care about their product, and about profit they get, bc games arent charity, its business. and steam is long ago fallen to worst platform ever. and gayben to most greedy pigface that prolly sucks Ds under bridge for extra dollhair…. for him only money that matters. and for being on top for so many years made him think hes the king and can do whatever, and now he suddenly realised he fkt up AGAIN, and steam is flushed once more (now its total 7 games that did withdraw from steam THIS year alrdy. how many more there be? lets wait and see)
i actually hope to see that more do so and stay away from steam, teaches the same old lesson to that fgt.
Actually, it’s the opposite. Let me guess.A user who posted this is Divine92?! Because that’s my nickname on
Reddit.
Meh… They don’t need the PC sales that much. Them releasing it on the PC is just charity for PC gamers who should be grateful they get the privilege to play their game. Everyone knows console sales are more important because that’s where people buy games more.
LMAO get outta here fkin retrd.
Sorry but that’s the hard truth. I know it’s hard to accept that being a PC gamer you don’t matter as a consumer.
Yes especially the first part, leave idiot.
y u mad ?
bcs u retrd!
it only a gheim. y u hev tu bi med ?
Yeah yeah, at least i don’t have any brain damage, or the IQ of a seal. Besides 4A is what it is now (pretty much nothing but still), thanks only to computer community.
If you think that’s the hard truth, you should go read the sales figures more closely and with proper prescription. Proper prescription for glasses & your mental structure. Because it’s either you are deliberately lying, Trolling or misinformed.
Or retrded or stupid or demented. Whatever suits him.
because no one buys physical copies of pc games
Actually there are articles on this very site that can prove you wrong within the span of 25 seconds so….
This website likes to suck its own deck about how amazing PC gaming is but doesn’t want to point out the fact that 90% of PC gaming profits come from a handful of games like League of Legends and dota. In 2015 I remember ubisoft put out their sales on each platform and the freaking PS4 alone sold more AAA ubisoft games than the PC did.
dota and lol are free
They sell microtransactions.
Remember that bizzysgs is a self-confessed Sony zealot, raging fanboy of Destiny and staunch defender of Anthem.
NURSE!
AHAH that “NURSE!” cracked me up ?
I’m not saying he’s mentally deficient but he’s repeatedly proved himself to be half a dozen beers short of a six-pack.
That’s one positive way to put it.
LOL
luv u bb
“On the PC alone, Metro Last Light more than tripled Metro 2033’s
worldwide sales over the same opening week period. That’s good news for
Last Light’s new publisher and a studio that former THQ president Jason
Rubin said”.
Now you can go fu** yourself.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-31-metro-last-light-first-week-sales-surpass-2033-lifetime-sales-in-us
KYS pls.
Agreed if its not on the PC its not a sale from me.
PC community is the only real community, people who actually care about videogames, and not some normie who play them just to fill the time they’re not working or going out.
If you think that way, why are you visiting this site then? And why are they? Videogames aren’t just games, videogames are art, only stupid normie people wouldn’t be able to see it.
I never said every videogame is art, rarely any is nowadays, but conceptually they are art. You say you make videogames yet you don’t see them as art, that’s exactly who we don’t need making videogames, this is the very kind of people who drove videogames where are now. If you’re looking for a way to make money (only), i beg you to move somewhere else and find something proper for that.
And you are supposed to be a game developer? Don’t make me laugh please, you make no sense, and you clearly don’t know what market you’re on, you failed completely to understand my point, and you went on talking like you have everything under control and you know your thing, when in fact you don’t, and you seem desperate to show you do somehow, going around saying “hey i’m a videogame developer” kinda confirms it. So yeah don’t come here trying to teach me stuff about how this all works, because you’re not one who’s capable of teaching anything apparently, least of all teaching ME these kind of stuff.
Many games can be considered art, you want me to list everything? A game that comes to my mind right now is cuphead. My point i explained to you earlier, if you didn’t catch it go back and read it, otherwise get out of this website, as you don’t belong here, since videogames aren’t art for you (and you still claim to be a videogame maker).
I don’t dictate anything, your staying only proves you’re contradicting yourself, and either you’re trolling or you also think videogames are art, doesn’t matter how good or bad they’ve become or if we’re stuck or not on old mechanics. I don’t own anything, i just want developers to stop caring only about money, and put their hearts and brains into what they make, otherwise what’s left for me to do is either boycott, or pirate their stuff instead of buying it.
So that basically confirms what i say. You have families to feed, alright, i think there are better way of earning money compared to videogame developer honestly, better and more profitable. Also i don’t know what you make, but i can say for sure that most of last 10 years’ videogames really look and feel empty, which is exactly what i’d expect from devs who only care about money, or mostly care about money, making videogames was never born for pure profit, that was something like a side effect, now it’s the exact opposite.
Stop lying, and nobody has ever gotten triggered by a girl on the cover, you’re just making sh*t up and following the lies that gaming media puts out.
obvious troll is obvious
Wonder if this guy is gay or wut?
Gay
Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual. The term was originally used to mean “carefree”, “cheerful”, or “bright and showy”.
LMAO, if those dildos port their sh*ts to PC people who own both PS4 and PC will buy back again on PC. Bayonetta port sells well even Bullet Witch from 2006 sells pretty good lol. NieR with their sh*t a*s port still sells ultimately well. They make it exclusives to consoles cuz they are afraid nobody wants to buy it on console lmao. What a motherf*ing d**kheads.
japan dont know about pc gaming. its like a parallel dimension.
probably cant read the manual on how to build pc with those small eyes.
HAHAHAHA
sony makes ps4, sony is japanese, but they don’t make the hardware, amd does
thats why they build micro devices that even your mega eyes can barely see…
no, they port on pc to release in western lands for losers like you. bc its MONEY.. not as much as from consoles. but still money, and if u didnt know, porting game barely cost anything, if game is alrdy built. porting just reg them to change assets type. but all models and shet alrdy developed (if game takes 50m to develop, to port it takes maybe 2m… to make extra 100m from your kinds)
They do, they just don’t really give a f*k. Or, they can’t make good port lol. They are afraid people will be sh**ting on their games.If they can’t make good port, some good PC users will help, e.g NieR:Automata. SEGA been porting their games to PC (Yakuza 0, Yakuza Kiwami), Atlus finally gave a try by porting their Catherine to PC. SE been on PC for years, BAMCO has tons of games on PC as well. They even give discount 20% on new upcoming God Eater 3 to whoever owns God Eater 2. SONY is just afraid of people leaving console if they let the devs porting to PC. So they make people not be able to choose but buy console. Well at least I can play Bayonetta 2 on PC hahaha. I’m sick sold to Platinum Games but I won’t buy Nintendo. So if they port it I will gladly buy it.
bayonetta is a nintendo exclusive now.
Yeah, I don’t care. Nintendo games aren’t as heavy as PS anyway. It will run on an emu pretty goood, even better. Been playing Bayonetta 2 on an emu, Zelda too but the combat is boring. Only armor designs are damned cool in Zelda.
research.
research what lel.
i did dev 17 VN’s on renpy, first 9 cant count much, short and stupid and bad work, just learning… but still
then tried and made other type of games, starting with 3 on RPGM and 3 on RPGM MV,
then made sandy on Unity.
i just never tried if console support those engines. i doubt.
RPGM and RenPy can compile into mobile. but dunno about console. maybe there is some magic trick.
visual novels are not games, its a ‘endless story text with pictures’ most of them are ”kinetic” means without any choises in game, just direct text with changing images time after time according to story text. and 90% of visual novels are erotic in different levels.
soz, first learn THAT atleast.
and that is not the best type of ”game” to play on TV screen when mommy walks in from work….
thats why they are made on PC.. just on consoles most of ppl wouldnt play them. just bc they would feel embarraced if som1 would see them play it..
(specially when its a *OneHandPlaySession*, you know what i mean right)
+. to throw visual novel on steam, all they have to do, use machine translation on game text. and make UI english. half hour work for a single man… and they have billion VN’s
and as i said, 90% if not more (i think 99% myself) are erotic. even those on steam are pretty much a*s erotic, mostly censored, some have ero elements cut out (some have the ‘action’ in text still but nudity/sec images removed/replaced…. games that arent cut just stay originally heavily censotred, they do not uncensor games when release them for eastern countries. that is what players do themself)
PS: possibility:
oh ans also, visual novels are made on RenPy and Unity engines, some on few other engines, very old ones.. these games wouldnt be supported by consoles maybe (not sure, never tried)
you just contro yourself, visual novel is INTERACTIVE story, 80% of which ARE NOT interactive, thats what kinetic means.
game where you dont do anything than just read text, that only based on text supported with images that change time after time is not a game.
thats why its not even called a GAME, its called VN aka visual novel. now learn what novel means.
VN is an ”illustrated book” you READ, not a GAME you PLAY.
for second, just to prove once again u sadling know nothing about what u blabber about…
steam censors boobs, lower parts are censored in japan alrdy.
as i said, if nothing cut out, then it stay ”ORIGINALLY* heavily censored.
bc in japan ALL erotic/p*rn is censored, games/manga/anime/real p*rn (only boobs they dont censor) tho in games that go on steam boobs are censored too. (when u see uncensored manga, its actually ”decensored” as originally it comes censored….
and no steam doesnt allow nudity,
these games contain girls in revealing clothes, like underwear, and lightly nude with censors (and/or with elements that hide boobs, like soapy water, objects, etc). and thats about upper body. lower halfs are heavily censored or even removed from ”game” (pics) tho you CANT see that unless you did play original ”game”.
tho i doubt u ever got to play games on steam bc i doubt u ever bought anything, just now did scope for ”nudity” on steam and boom, u smart again…….
sadface
i did try few of those on steam and that was disappointment. but makes sense, who would stop 12yo’s buy these here on new steam acc where they set their age as adults….
gaYben would be sued and jailed long ago for spreading porn/erotics for minors…
EDIT: this ”game” is first FULLY UNCENSORED on steam. this is description to it on steam store page :
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1002100/Negligee_Love_Stories/
The various female characters of the game frequently appear in lingerie and their underwear. In addition the game includes references to sexual activity and intimate scenes. It also includes some scenes suggesting sexual assault or non-consensual s*x which some viewers may find distressing.
The game also includes events and stories revolving around the following themes: Adultery, Abusive Marriages, Strippers, Escorts & Models, Lesbianism, Nymphomania.
The game also includes a few violent scenes where women are attacked, abused, both physically and sexually within the game.
NOW READ THIS LAST PART!!
!!!!!!This version of the game fades out before the scenes show fully nude images or any direct depictions of sexual activity, however the content is still highly suggestive.!!!!!!!!!!!
—————————————————————————————–
and next one is ”Ditzy demons are in love with me”
the game itself is exactly same version as the one above. fades off, thus u see nothing you expect.
but you can buy 18+ adult content, that has the parts of game that been cut out (from how the original game looks like)
it includes all s*x parts of game,
BUT
if you think this is what u meant, then surprise m*fo.
the DLC page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/948430/The_Ditzy_Demons_Are_in_Love_With_Me__18_Adult_Only_Content/
its description:
WARNING: This DLC is intended only for adults 18 years of age or older and contains content which some players might find offensive.
Featuring artwork by Sayori of NEKOPARA fame:
Each main character has 2 animated h-scenes and up to 8 erotic scenes!
All scenes have mosaic. <== BOOM!!!!
this is what steam considers ''game with nudity''
soz next time u talk about something make sure you know something….
And yet developers care more about the PC platform and it’s gamers since the PC platform is considered the most important to them. Console gamers are the bug testers and guinea pig consumers of the gaming world.
Thank you console gamer!!!
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90% of PC profits are league of legends, dota, overwatch, fortnite and similar games.
majority are free games
I guess he lost his tongue? gg, 0wned
Yeah, but consider from where that money is made mostly. You can see it in Steam.
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/winter2018bestof/
well, its *sale leaders* game like PoE/apex/etc are free, so it doesnt hame GAME SALE,, but it has microtransactions, and it makes as much money as that *sale leaders* group u did link all together as in most of FREE TO PLAY games…
PS: gaming is no charity, and, if some dev makes their game free to play, that means that game liteerally makes shittons of money from micro’s… and every player that joins is potential monny for them,, even just 5 euro per month from a player that wouldnt buy game for 50 euro otherways and means he wouldnt spend that 5 euro/month afterwards. now count there some 10-30 mil players like that…….. and per month means, for year, two (i play PoE since beta, its 5 years now, i throw every 3 months few hundreds. buying supportrer packs every league to support GGG for example)
in PoE no lootboxes, just direct cosmetics and other benefits shop….
but.. games with lootboxes makes tens if not hundreds times more than that. bc gambling ….. noone can fight temptation to get something amasing and look better or atleast different from others…
almost forgot to say, Apex Legends even gives every player 45 lootbox free (you get them rewards as you level up) thats how confident they are they make enough money anyway. and THAT hooks up ppl on lootboxes..
soz. i only see here 3 ppl that know how world works, and 97 idiots who spit bs and argue about things they dont have even slightest idea about……
if you didnt know, rtrd.
about 90% of browser games that chinese release in US/EU makes 9-14m dollars per month (LoA 2 was making 16m/month. not sure about LoA3 now)
there was some browser games that made a lot more, and you know what?
ALL of browser games are Free
PC games stand high in overal income table only bc of microtransactions. not bc of their game sale. LOOTBOXes is what makes profit now. but games itself sell more on consoles ( and dont spit that cumm thats stuck on your face. im not console user myself at all. soz suck it up)
CSGO makes shittons money for valve, not bc of actual game sales, but bc of lootboxes (skins)
same with PUBG and OW..
and you know what? in that 3 weeks that Apex Legends exist, it made more money than metro exodus PC did make from sales total, and surprise M**O…. Apex Legends is FREE…..
on 1st week registered 25 mil players in apex (now its lot more, considering its 3 weeks now), even if just half of them spent just 50 euro on skins and boxes. thats like what… 600m euro (for the first week registered players)
and dont spit some bs again, most of games cost 50-80 euro when you buy, so when u start playing game thats FREE on base. most ppl throw that 50-100 euro in no problems, its liek buying the game and supporting devs that made really amazing work and release good game. not some sh**ty bugfest that needs multi patches on first release day…
soz next time b4 u spit that bs and yell about how som1 is rtrd and you so smart, make sure you KNOW what u talkin about,, as of now,, youre the fkn rtrd.. suck it up and get over it….
They don’t need PC sales that much? XD Are you mentally ill? This game was a PC exclusive… it was born and raised specifically to be a PC exclusive and then it was Ported to consoles. If they lose the PC fanbase they’re basically destroying what little respect anyone has left for Deep Silver and 4AGames.
All they seem to be doing is making the situation worse. Companies do not exist without consumers.
They ported it to consoles because nobody bought it on PC.
In Metro’s case, no, PC sales are way better than console ones.
They actually only managed to sold well on consoles with their redux bundles, before it was a bit meh.
Are you serious? They have over 5 million sales of both Metro and Metro 2033. ON PC. Console sales were in the hundreds of thousands.
gaming pcs cant run it, hm lets put it on console and get 5fps
idiot….. dont compare stoneage game when consoles were sh*t and wasnt abble to runheavy games that good.. now its PCs that you must throw couple grands in to be able to play new games, console is still same couple hundreds and will be able to run even next year games and next.. tho even if you bought new pc last year, in 2021 it most likely wont be able to run new games on ulti, if even on ”highs”
considering how game regs escalate..
as of now. graph cards cost as much as full console price, you wonder why more and more ppl go over to consoles?? why ppl buy games on consoles more??
there is many reasons:
1 = its cheaper
2 = on consoles barely any cheaters if any at all (as now they dont ban the accounts on consoles but they ban consoles directly making it unusable at all.. PS atleast does that now for sure, not 100% sure about xbox)
3)console you can take with you anywhere you go, like laptop, but who has a laptop as gaming pc? only poor kiddos???and serious laptop cost 40% more than desk PC with same specs….. soz.. console is AGAIN cheaper…..
people he is trying to be sarcastic I guess
Are you literally retarded?
The metro series wouldn’t exist without PC. 2033 was a Microsoft exclusive. We’re the ones who bought the game at a time when a GPU that could run the game didn’t even exist. They flat out would not have jobs.
“No one bought it” in 2010 because the game was unplayable and practically still is. Yet that’s weird it seems to me like I’ve had it in my library since 2/12/2011. If it had been given any marketing attention, I might have bought it on release date instead of a friend gifting it.
try the math,according to statista,in 2017 there were 1.22 billions pc gamers worldwide. Now show me a company that does not want 1 billion customers……
1.2b gamers in what exactly? lmao…..
there is no game that have more than 70m players. and those are only free to play games. and not each account is a new player.
the number was taken crossgame maybe or what? lmao
if even 10% of what would log into game at any point, even into CSGO that generates servers based on players online. would blow up harder than from DDoS…… so how did your famous ”staSHItsta take the data and where from????
even browser games, that only takes about 1KB/s to data transfer (dont mistake for Mbps) can hold max 2000 ppl. and only game i know that limits at 2k and not lower, is runescape, which has biggest open world with always ‘lurking’ enemies in browser game history….. most browser games now designed to instantly generate new server as one gets 500 accounts registered to not get servers laggy…
and thats with the count that atleast half of them will ”roll” after opening week/2 if not sucess to land in top ranks. to try agin in next server (so every week try next server = 1 human would count as multiple players as time goes on. in year 56 weeks or something?)
so tell me what PC game was it where your ‘statista’ or friggin magister Joda, or whatever bs was it, get the data. bc to have that number, they had to have exactly THAT many ppl online at same time in a game.
taking the numbers at diff time of day and just calculating them together to see total number and claim it the real number of players is 90% wrong. due lots ppl just leave pc on 24/7. some might not even log in for few days, when that data collecting was taken. some part of it might be number of bots (CSGO trade bots etc) .. so tell me smart boy, how much did u f up again and show how stupid u r??
humiliating enough yet?
even calculating player by sold product is IMPOSSIBLE,
bc there many factors.
1 = players get banned, and rebuy copy of game to keep cheating.
2= players buy many copies of game (like CSGO to have many accs ‘fishing’ for souvenirs packs)
3 = bots (in MMO games just goldfarmers. in some games trade bots. etc etc. where one person can run lots of accs with bots and go sleep. (remember one most famous D3 botter with 50 accs running with bot on same machine same time all day’n’night’s)
4= lots ppl buy tons of games on sales for low price, then try to resell them on sites like g2a. that resell process can take years. but if THATS what the statistics were based on were counted right then all together..
5-99 = lazy to type. but there ‘few’ more reasons..
PS: earth has about 7b ppl total, >(i took 7.5b as base)
about 5% ppl on earth cant play anything even if they would want to. bc its not possible there. egypt. africa.
about 20% ppl arent able to play anything, due being poor and not being able to get even cable tv. and you talk about internet, new gaming PC thats able to run new games. and specially to buy games itself… well, half of them dont even have home
so it leaves us with with about 5.6b ppl
50% of that are old people, who dont play anything anymore.
so it leaves us around 2.8b ppl
more than half of it also doesnt play games. parents etc, ppl that did actually ‘grow up’ and have other interests, like family, job. a**holes like you to feed..
so it leaves us with 1.4b
half of it are young kids that dont YET play games, atleast not the games you play.
so it leaves us with about 700m ppl
(even if we presume ALL of them play games, tho not all)
about 2/3 are console players but yeah, i think half of that 2/3 also play on PC. so cant count them off, . means from here its hard to calculate without being bias. so lets leave it at that, 700m are about the amount of ppl who play games. what part of them play only PC; what part play only consoles, and what part play on BOTH..
but what u said like its only on PC alone is 1.2b players is bulls**t, bc that data is IMPOSSIBLE to get..
just picking 1 reason from the list will explain it,,
CHEATING, is what would mess any calculation of players, bs one human can and is count multiple times if having multiple accounts in agame
and considering there no single game to base the statistics on, means all games been calculated together, but who said that if i have game A that i dont have game B and C? and even 3 copy of each? so am i 1 or 6 now in the total players count in statistics??
Metro 2033 created for PC and Xbone360 first, and the main customer is PC users
Any game but not this, you should reconsider what you’ve said
Sadly, far too many companies forget this. Same with politicians.
This retarded devs got there heads so far up in there a*5 that they think everything backwards.
Haha this is rich… And downright distasteful, disrespectful, rude & disingenuous. Im officially done with this franchise. That was the last straw for me. First you throw Denuvo in the game, then you remove it from one store and shove it on another in a timed exclusive. I said fine, I’ll wait cause I love this franchise like no other and have longed for this. And then you realize the backlash from just about everyone, which threatens your overall sales. And then you have the balls to suggest, “Don’t you think about boycotting this game and not supporting our decision or else we will never release on the PC platform again”…. Ok, challenge accepted. Bring It On Biche…
Its as if they want you to pirate the game. Have this dude lost his ever-loving mind. Is he on some kind of a medication or does he need to be put on some type of medication. Wow, such threats he has.
They misunderstand. I’m still buying the game at launch. I’m just disappointed that they’ve moved the PC launch back to Feb 2020.
If you run fast enough, you’ll probably catch him before he leave so you can grovel some more. Maybe he’ll understand you better then, this further securing Metro games on PC. You will save us all brother.
Just came here to say what everyone else is saying. First you hold the game hostage by making it an Epic exclusive and now you threaten us? The Metro series is dead to me.
This is simple and pure blackmailing, good luck selling your horror genre toward a crowd who wants nothing but third person action adventure with stealth elements.
Shove it up…. Know what; 4A Games can’t do sh*t anyways, it’s up to the publishers afterall. And not that we’ll have anxiety if such crappy franchise stops releasing for the PC.
THEN F BRING IT BACK TO STEAM
You can go fck yourself together with them.
????????????
The guy is an idiot
EA and now 4A DAMN Its good time to be a gamer and boycott those company’s
I’m officially gonna pirate the sh*t out of it
You get it right
I say boycott everything from Deep Silver they want be jerk so can we let run out biz be next they pull this kind carp last min.
i see.
Whatever. This game is trash anyway.
Ding ding ding.
Now I will OFFICIALLY never buy another 4A game. I won’t EVEN steal it.
Good job Scynet. You done messed up. Now even if Exodus does come to Steam, I’m not buying it.
You spoiled a*s, disloyal, pieces of sh*t.
Ding ding ding.
Now I will OFFICIALLY never play another 4A game. I won’t EVEN steal it.
Good job Scynet. You done messed up. Now even if Exodus does come to Steam, I’m not buying it. Ever. I don’t care if it’s $1. I don’t care if it comes in my humble monthly – I will give it to someone. I will literally never buy, play, or own this game, ever, in any fashion.
You spoiled, disloyal, pieces of sh*t. There would be no Metro games if not for PC gamers. We bought your wonky, broken, Crysis-level unrenderable game in 2010 before GPUs existed that could even handle it. The game wasn’t even on PlayStation and it wasn’t even on 360 yet.
This makes my blood boil. At first we defended 4A and assumed it was just THQ Nordic being trash. Nope. 4A are trash now too.
The nerve. I always love it when developers who literally would not have jobs without the PC market, go to console and then treat PC customers like third-class citizens. Then they go an extra step further and turn on us completely.
Well put
Move over EA, Bethesda and Activision-Blizzard there is a new sh**ty game company aiming for number 1 and it looks like they’re in the lead by a mile now!
I will not buy because in my country it is now more expensive in epic store. Bye, bye.
Epic blocks stores like GMG, Humble, Razre.
I think they find out that they are royally fcked. I’m a big fan of Metro franchise but this is just unbelievable behaviour.
4A can piss off along with EA, Activsion and the rest of those a*s hats.
What proof is there that this is actually a 4A games employee and note some f*ing random person?
It’s not the same though because Steam was getting up and running and was the only digital store client available and valve started it up with their own games, then other games started being Steam only even when you brought physical copies. It turned out to be change for the better if you like all the features Steam brings but at the time I’ll agree I wasn’t too happy about it.
You can get cheap Steam keys, service is good, features are great now but if it didn’t up it’s game then sure we’d be p*ssed and could switch to other clients but I don’t see any reason to because of Steam’s feature set.
Steam didn’t take games off other stores because there was none, in fact other stores have been taking games off Steam like EA and Ubisoft. Where are the cheaper games on Uplay if Steam charges 30%?
Yes but where are the saving and what are the gains for the consumer? They took them off to make more money not to give the consumer a better deal.
You’ve not even addressed the question as to why Uplay, Epic store have the same prices as Steam with games yet Steam charge 30%. This is the supposed reason they switched, so why are ALL the games not cheaper?
You didn’t, all you did is just repeated what the Publisher said is the reason they moved Metro Exodus to the Epic’s Store. They had great success on Steam, great sales on Steam, it’s a case that the publisher Deep Silver got greedy.
Ah yes, 1st party titles are the same as 3rd poarty titles that get removed from one storefront after months of advertising. Toddlers are smarter then you.
This one a single developer, and it wasn’t a threat, did you actually read the article or just the title?
Drop the Denuvo and I’ll buy assuming it’s worth playing. If not then I won’t shed a tear since you only have yourselves to blame
“it shows how nervous some of 4A Games’ developers actually are”
Well said, John. Thanks to the greed and contemptible anti-consumer behaviour of the publisher the dev is understandably now in a state of confusion, panic and fear for its future.
The individual in question knows better than to publicly lash out at the source of the problem because attacking his bosses would get him fired. His emotions boiled over whereby he misguidedly vented his frustration at the consumer.
Publicly attacking your own IP’s fanbase never ends well. Just ask EA Bioware Montreal, Lucasfilm/Disney, EA DICE and more.
this will make even more people pirate their game. good, that’s one less rytarded dev on PC platform.
Holy crap, now they can really go f*k themselves. So not only do they pull this sh*t a month before release, basically misleading people by saying it’s coming to Steam and that physica copies will have Steam keys, but now they’re trying to blackmail people into buying it anyway.
They better pull a hell of an apology out of their a**es if they want the PC community to forgive them.
Maybe they know the game will sell aprox 5000 copies, so they try to blame PC pirates instead.
The last big dev who did was Epic Games. Like 10 years ago. Cliffy B and his baby Gears 2. Haha good times xD
Aw man, The Sad Tale of CliffyB always brings a smile to my face XD
Oh boy, here we go again. The Elitist Developer syndrome strikes us again, where they treats their own customers like slaves and servants. Now tell me, who’s really entitled?
already done that.
Metro Exodus will sell well on PC. When it comes back to Steam.
Indeed. I don’t think 99% of the angry people here even realize that neither 4A Games nor Deep Silver said those things. Some fool named scynet made those comments. Is there even any proof that he works on Metro Exodus at all and if he does then in what capacity? Is he the guy that makes the coffee and keeps the donuts stocked for everyone?
I would like a response from 4A or Deep Silver on this before deciding.
i’m sure you’re completely wrong about the guy you’re replying to. it’s not that he understands what you said. he actually thought same as others in here but he’s one of the f4gs who supports epic launcher. reason behind it is not just typical autism that you see on forums defending trash games and trash policies. he wants to say he’s different. read his last comments, he’s pretty dense.
“… and stated that if all PC gamers boycott Metro Exodus then the next Metro game (if there is one mind you) will not come out on the PC”
Such a statement is outrageous and could backfire on 4A and Deep Silver. They do it to themselves (and us interested in playing the game), and then have the audacity to blame and blackmail their fans?
“Scynet also claimed that those that decide to pirate the game would have done so”
The lies developers who make terrible decisions tell themselves to make themselves feel better. Scynet… just to give you that bit of 3rd-person logic check that you need to have reality confirmed to you so that you can’t run away from it very easily, here: What you said is very untrue, and your choice to withdraw from Steam, and the way you chose to do it, is going to result in a huge number of people pirating ME who would otherwise not have thought of pirating it.
f*k you deep silver, you c**ksuckers, yes dont come out on PC, please be irrelevant and gone. BYE
If you bought Metro: Exodus from cd keys or another site, Epic does not gain any profit from this exclusive deal. Does this count as a non-sale to 4A?
Interesting to note that said site has so soon discounted the Epic Store version of Metro Exodus by a whopping 22%.
really cant blame them. PC Gamers are toxic.
At least not mentally challenged and/or with low IQ.
That statement kinda guarantees it that is not going to sell to 4A’s expectations. Developers and publishers need to learn how to listen to their customers. The people who pay your salaries. It’s not the 90’s where we have two games in a specific genre and you can force sh*t on us. There are a million other games we can play, so f*k of with your threats.
“…with some review bombing both Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light on Steam”
Which of course is something that one does not have the freedom to do on Epic Store.
Also remember that the corporate shills and soyboys at PC Gamer frown on so-called review bombing.
PC Gamer. Well, there’s a sterling tower of journalistic integrity.
NOT
It is revealing to understand the mentality of many PC gamers today when you look at the thousands and thousands that flock to PC Gamer for advice on what to think rather than using their own minds.
PC gamer has a mindhive support of epic ive noticed; they are very anti-valve. I get that steam isn’t perfect, but if you think epic is indicating that they value their customers by these moves, you are wrong. If someone wanted to properly create, yet another, pc distribution platform, they would have started much differently.
PC Gamer was deleting negative comments about Epic in the last Metro thread, I guess both are pretty much involved, also they haven’t posted anything yet related to what the A4 games dev said, is hot topic here, in the russian forum and on the steam discussion
wow, interesting, thats very telling. I wonder if my old friend mr jimsterlingson knows this
Actually more than likely they were shadow banning people as they did me above. When they do that you can no longer see the posts of those with dissenting views.
Yeah they are pretty much straight up Nazi’s over there. I got shadow banned for deflating their arguments. I didn’t break any rules so they couldn’t outright ban me, they just shadow banned me. My whole damn ip address actually. lol.
A common SJW tactic. Can’t defeat an argument with debate or are intolerant of all views not marching in lock-step with the SJW hivemind? Then deplatform aka silence the opponent as though one is operating a totalitarian state a la Germany 1933-45, the Soviet Union, the gulag archipelago or North Korea.
PC Gamer
journalistuber-SJW political activist Andy Chalk is likely right now desperately contriving to link the Metro Exodus drama to so-called ‘toxic masculinity’, ‘racism’, ‘misogyny’, ‘the alt-right’, ‘transphobia’, ‘the patriarchy’, the PC Master Race, Milo Yiannopoulos, PewDiePie, President Trump and ‘Russian hackers’! ?He’ll receive a soy-infused decaffeinated coffee in reward from his fellow soyboys, Steam haters and neo-Marxists at PC Gamer.
He’d better call Bully Hunters…
Maybe he doesn’t like steelseries products. Oh wait
Unbelivable they just keep stepping in deeper and deeper.
I love how they are saying the don’t care for pirates, which is a classic corporate mindset. Sell at 60 or gtfo. We don’t care that greedy publishers do not respect regional pricing.
Truth be told, lot of Metro copies were sold via gog distro or during sales. I think the figure ramped up to be quite high in the end.
Those mongrels just simply can’t see behind the corner as is a standard in the corporate world driven by greed and sales projections meeting expectations so execs can buy another private jet.
As always, the dev would be better off silent. And he even has cojones to boast in the face of a huge backlash.
College educated? The system is obv failing in teaching common sense in UK.
“College educated? The system is obv failing in teaching common sense in Rusland.”
Colleges and Universities don’t teach common sense. I don’t think that is even possible. In my experience a person has common sense naturally or they lack it.
That was literally the joke ?
I’m getting Cliffy B flashbacks when Epic opted to release GOW sequels only on consoles citing the very same motto that “those who wanted to pirate the game would do so in any case regardless of circumstances”.
The devs are Ukranian (mind you to us Russians it’s the same since we are the same people along with Belarusians but to Westerners they are different as the French and German).
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Has anyone confirmed the guy in the article is an actual developer on the game or even works for 4A games?
No but by now 4A games should’ve seen the news somewhere, and i see no apologizing post or any rectification/clarification. If you do, please let us know.
Yes he does. They said he has been on that forums for 10 years.
What a delusional dev and publisher, tbh their game r not interesting that much so they can f uck off and shove it up their a**es.
Put Denuvo on their game and then releases it on anti-consumer launcher. What a d ick move.
No one is going to buy this pos anyways. Who cares. Consumer always wins.
This is pointed out in the article but let me say it once again: these are the opinions of only one developer and – most likely – do not represent 4A Games’ stance. I believe that both 4A Games and Deep Silver should let the game do the talk for them. If it is indeed a great game, it will sell whether it’s timed-exclusive on Epic’s store or not.
I would even go as far as to say that is probably just one disillusioned employee who doesn’t truly understand the implications of the issue. However, it has helped to stoke the fire against Epic and Deep Silver and for that i am grateful.
I truly hate to be like that but when Epic pulls am amoral move like this we as gamers are left with very little recourse.
4A Games can burn in hell for me now! If they wanted it to sell they would release it on both stores, they just want the money, this was the first metro game that interested me but whatever I won’t even touch on this now!
Can’t honestly say I support the idea of piracy, but I get the point. I would refund it out of principle, but I do sh*t all the time out of principle. 🙂 Just too many good games and developers now to support those that aren’t imo.
Epic: “You guys have to help us with the flack we’re getting”
4A Games: “We got this“
Alternatively,
Epic: “You guys have to help us with the flack we’re getting”
THQ Nordic: “We tried on Twitter and got roasted. Only a fool would try again”
4A Games: “Hold my beer!”
@JohnDio:disqus Fine, still if i don’t see any apologizing post there’s no reason not to be pissed about all this, that guy’s words are very clear. If it’s as you say i expect a post from 4A Games in the upcoming hours, otherwise the entire team should be accounted for that.
Lol when i think denuvo and exclusivity shaddy move was alread the cherry of the cake they now treath the users that support them since the first game . Disgusting
Whatever the next game will be, he won’t work on it, because he’s already fired for violating PR code of conduct. He just doesn’t know yet
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Let’s get the list out:
-No GOG version
-Denuvo
-Epic Store “exclusive”
-Epic store “exclusive” after having a Steam store page for years and pre orders open
-Threatening your consumers
What’s next for this new blunder?
Apparently these companies have forgotten who gives them money for their products.
Dont forget that people who get the physical version were conned by being promised a Steam version and then being forced to used Epic instead
Yup, I rather canceled my pre-order for that reason.
If that’s how they feel, then they can go f*ck themselves for all I care.
No one messes with the community in such a way, you are dead!
Good, screw the Pc entitled/Snowflaky Race , i would laugh my a*s off if this happens
They remove their game from the largest platform. Then says if it doesn’t do well they won’t make any more. 200IQ
In that case f…k them?
Before people were blaming Deep Silver for this sh*t storm, but apparently the devs are in on it too. F*k them, I hope they go bankrupt.
i pre-order the game on steam and i will play it on PC with the steam store , about epic store until now i not buy 1 game on it so i can’t say what i think , whenif i buy 1 game on it or whenif i had some problem whit it i will tell what i think , but i can say i’m on steam store since 2009 and i’m always happy to use it and buy games on it also the customer support is very good too , i had around 800 games on steam and i like all of them and i’m happy to play them on steam.
For sure 1 think i can say,if epic store don’t add a wishlist button (and if in future epic store exclusives will not be listed on steam store) personally for me is a big problem and this will hurt me because i like to wishlist games and buy them when i can afford it (that i hope i can fix by “Like” the videos of the game on youtube and then use that playlist as a wishlist…) but if epic store start to make games as exclusives and then i can’t find them on steam and epic store has no wishlist i not know how to do for not forget the game.
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Metro is a game that has gained its popularity by the competence of the developers first, more also by the space provided by Steam to discussions and assessments, all the structure and accessibility that justifies its 30%. The A4 posture of exclusivity demonstrates a disrespect with its fan base that has preference for the Steam platform, as the comment of Mr. Scynet that we pay your salary and not the opposite.
I agree that 30 is too much. However they totally have private deal as AAA publisher, so its less in reality.
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damn if that chart is accurate, this industry is doomed.
Here is their chance to immerse in the Battlefield 5 shitstorm in case they missed it. What a joke
Genderfield 5 was made by SJWs so it’s natural to boycott their hateful propaganda.
It’s ashamed to see that their first chance of shooting the Metro series to another stage been turned out to be like this.
Epic Games Store should rename themselves to Murdered Games Store.
I’ll counter their argument,
If Metro Exodus isn’t on Steam then I am not buying it, Looks like it might not sell much!
I don’t want my games especially of the same series all over the fkn place, Already have other Metro games on my Steam account.
P.S. – Maybe this developer making threats can go work for Gillette!
In other news, 4A Games announces there is a sudden opening in its development team.
The PC community does not need the BS console users have to put up with.
Bye bye Epic, 4A Games, and Deep Silver.
I played one of these games a few years ago and it felt like every other linear FPS I’d played. It was solid, but nothing I’d be upset over not playing when there are 20 other companies making basically the same game with different graphics.
Ah I see, petty blackmail and threats? My oh my, whatever will I do without Metro games? Sounds like someone needs to take a timeout in the corner.
I say go right ahead, consoles can have it, oh and feel free to take Exodus with you. Honestly I really don’t care either way
This kind of attitude towards people that are supposed to feed you and give you their honestly earned money is really off putting.
It makes me WANT to pirate the game and i have never pirated a game. Honestly, i just get the games i care about in sales, and they usually cost 5-10$ tops. Yea, they will lose 10$ from me, i know.. huge lost but guess what? If millions do it, it will be a HUGE lost. Heck, even 1$ from 1 mil people is still a CRPload of cash.
This whole store BS in the last moment, this statement and a few other reasons are enough (for me) to justify piracy and boycotting it.
Hell i will also go further and say: PISS OFF 4A games, nobody wants your crap if you will act like Rockstar (yea, the GTA/Red Dead company)
Fvcking cucks
The title is “If the game is cracked and you pirate it say farewell to the next metro game”
@JohnDio:disqus Every dog has his leash, sometimes you should pull.
pc gamers are fat nerds anyway.
we can live without metro! no problem!
True Story 🙂
My first reaction to this was “Bring it on!” but after remembering BFV’s botched promotional tactic of trying to exploit online rage, I simmer down. This could be just that one dev’s opinion or it could be a trap to rile up more “toxic” Steam users.
It would be funny if the PC sales actually tanked because it would certainly means that a highly-anticipated game failed because of the Epic Store. It would be even funnier if the sales number on other platforms later on ended up much higher than on Epic but they have to sell it at a lower price because the game is a year old. I wonder if Epic might buy huge numbers of copy to balance out the numbers or offer them up as a free game on the very day Metro Exodus is released on other platforms.
I think Epic doesn’t care about sales that much, they are after your private data they can sell rather. Tencent involvement is sketchy from the start after all.
WCCFTech copied this from DSOG.
no problem. i’ll just buy it on ps4.
Lol.. very nervous indeed, should have thought about it before they did this sh**ty exclusive deal. Don´t care about if it comes to PC or console anyway anymore, caus such greedy aholes wont see a dime from me.
The exclusivity was a scummy move, and people are angry – wtf did you expect? If PC gamers weren’t rampant fans, you wouldn’t have heard squat…
Looks like they are on the right track, after the publisher decided to remove the game from the most known platform in exchange for an adventure with Epic Games.
Ouch…. 360+ Comments, as of now….Keep them coming guys, lol.
He talks out of his a*s. Game developer would never leave his core audience.
im going to pirate it
Epic / Tencent can burn in hell
I was waiting for soo freaking much for this game … i am a steam User and i buy my games and get my games from steam… but this is a freaking joke… i am a die-hard metro fan … but this is a super low move and crappy – really crappy statement… you are a joke… i am really dissapointed and really discust at your stupid statement… we are the one who is paying YOU the money here.. you waste money to create a game to EARN more facking money… and this is what you facking do ? are you insane ? how dare you facking treat us like crap?
PS. gotto block this useless piece of crap DSOGAMING (almost typed DSOshitting) on my browser. to never see this useless bs site again.. fkn rtrds arguing about sht they dont know. same dumbf mods sitting there and removing comments (tho no offences or anything, just truth & facts, just seems same kind PC losers kiddos MODS sitting there) lel, sad fks. ciao