Deus Ex: Mankind Divided has just been released and below you can view some 4K screenshots from it. For these screenshots, we used some custom settings (a mix of Very High and Ultra) that offered us a console-like experience in 4K (almost constant 30fps).
Here are the graphics settings we used (MSAA was disabled):
Those interested can download the uncompressed images from here.
Enjoy and stay tuned for our PC Performance Analysis!
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The Steam community has grown too toxic for its own good.
A sizable portion of users would have pirated the game in the first place (thank you, Denuvo) so are therefore inclined to write a negative review before properly troubleshooting. Others run barely adequate hardware and/or fail to understand the difference b/w a demanding PC game and an unoptimized one. Then you have the ones who want to max out the game on a two year old GPU and expect 60fps…
I’m seeing plenty of YT vids showcasing performance issues. It’s not the worst port imaginable but it’s definitely got optimization issues that will of course lead to a set of mixed reviews.
My rig
5930k
32gb ddr4-3200
Titan X maxwell.
Can hardly play @1440p
What you said is Bull****. What that game demands has nothing to do with what it has to offer. It is a good looking game, but THAT DEMANDING ? plz.
I have nearly the same configuration (i7-5820K) and can tell that you are of FULL OF S*IT.
He might not be. PC’s can be funny like that. Sometime something as random as a recent Windows update can create some kind of interference and all hell can break loose.
“I have nearly the same configuration (i7-5820K) and can tell that you are of FULL OF S*IT.”
We got a fanboy here, move along.
The *** u talking about. 1440p. Stutter in some areas AND unstable framerate AND i think that’s enough. Plus all my rig is on m.2s 4x so don’t tell me crap about texture streaming. This game is beautiful like i said but not THAT beautiful. I went ahead and read a couple of pc technical reviews and it’s clear that there has been pc optimization but there’s still work to do.
You can’t deny that. If you have the game then you know what i’m talking about.
He is a troll, he don’t even play games.
What settings are you playing at? I have a 1070 which is pretty much the same performance wise as Titan XM/980 Ti and I’m averaging 80-100fps on a combination of Very High and Ultra (in-game, not benchmark).
Settings are: Textures/LOD and Volumetric Lighting = Ultra, everything else High except Shadow Quality = Medium (using temporal AA instead of MSAA) at 1080p.
Having done quick test you can get 60fps average (in game, not the benchmark, which is more demanding/indicative of a worst case scenario) using a sensible mix of Very High/Ultra.
1440p everything maxed except msaa. That should give you an idea. It runs okay. But it pains me to go from 75fps to 50fps one scene to another. At least it’s league better than quantum broken.
6.4GB of VRAM usage as well at 1080p lol
Yea. Figures. At 1440p i can hit higher. Titanx has 12gb so i dont mind but the day will come where i’ll need god damn 16gb vram. But its all good.
“A sizable portion of users would have pirated the game in the first place (thank you, Denuvo) so are therefore inclined to write a negative review before properly troubleshooting.”
You are a moron.
Lots of imbeciles like you who try to justify piracy are on the LOSING side. Here come the pirates…
He’s not justifying piracy, you dimwit.
“YOU ARE ON THE LOSING SIDE”
What side is that moron the “wrong side of history” or the consumer’s side?
You acting as if you got stocks in square enix and pirates are eating away your profits. I am on the side of the consumer. The pc version has to work i dont care i the developers lose sales because of it, you seem to care about profits. I bet you defend the original preorder dlc dlc with “augment your preorder
But thats not point my point is you are a moron and the “imbecile” for arguing that anyone who writes a bad review would have pirated the game, a nonsensical argument that you probably pulled from your bottom, despite proof of the opposite. How come the same thing happened with just cause 3 but not with doom, last time i checked both those games are uncracked. How come people did not rush to bash doom as well?
Corporate shill fanboy.
If i’m not mistaken you can’t write a Steam review unless you have that game in your library. So people playing Pirated copies would be a non-issue in the reviews on Steam. I think a bigger problem is people not reading the minimum spec on the games they purchase. For instance DE:MD minimum spec is a GTX660, which is good for 720p@30fps according to Square Enix themselves.
No no no anyone who has written a bad review is a pirate according to this drunk idiot.
and there are a group of people like you who think they understand what optimization and visual fidelity mean,yet they clearly have no idea.
I guess the NMS fiasco is also a product of Steam community’s ‘toxicity’, eh?
That was definitely pirates man. I dont know how but that makes sense. Also arkham knight.
TBH a lot of the complaints seem to be from people who aren’t willing to turn the settings down from Ultra to High (despite the fps gains being massive and the visual difference negligible) and the complaining they aren’t comfortably maxing the game out.
At that point, you’re honestly the architect of your own misery. My commiserations for those who are experiencing hangs or poor performance with reasonable settings (and the Ultra setting is, by Nixxes own admission, intended for future machines. i.e. there’s no hardware out right now that they expect to be able to handle it).
This makes 0 sense, please delete it lol
Its actually the brutally honest truth.
No wonder you agree with him.
Yes on your planet, go sleep kid…
As much as I would like to erase these people from existence I’m finding life isn’t giving me the admin privileges to do so.
Wanna duel me on misanthropy? I’m a tough one i’m warning you…
Exactly. I have a Pascal Titan X and I am playing with everything on Max (except MSAA is at 2X) in 4K, and I have locked it to 30Hz vsynced because even at those settings I barely push past 40fps. But the game does look very good and honestly playing at 30fps isn’t that bad for a game like this (stealth…). Would I have preferred 60fps? Sure. Am I super pissed that I can’t? No. Why? Because If I wanted to play at 60fps I could run it at 1440p. I prefer 4K for this game because it looks so damn good (plus I play on a 70″ Vizio P Series so the extra resolution really makes a difference). Anyway like I said earlier… minimum spec (which is GTX660 or 7970) is only good for 720p@30fps at lowest settings. People need to read the requirements these game require before purchase.
” I have locked it to 30Hz ”
No wonder you like each other.
What? Did you read the rest of the comment? I have it that way so the game is consistent. It is not required to run at 60fps. Like I said… I could if I wanted to. Just not a 3840×2160. That is MY preference for this game. I am willing to take that hit for visual IQ. What is your issue with that?
” have it that way so the game is consistent. It is not required to run at 60fps.”
” That is MY preference for this game. I am willing to to that hit for visual IQ. ”
Cool story ill back away slowly.
Good. Walk away.
x2 MSAA is a surprisingly big fps killer (any MSAA in this game is TBH). I lost 20% of my performance from that alone.
True. But with the Temporal AA 2XMSAA works VERY well in 4K. Nut yes, it’s does take quite a hit performance wise. tbh I think there is a little more going on then MSAA when you enable it… It really works well. Better then I am used to with normal 2xMSAA. Almost works like SGSSAA tbh.
One of the great ironies of gaming now and days. People always complain that games are good enough graphically, then when they push the envelope they have to be optimized enough to run ultra settings on a 750ti.
Sadly they didn’t pushed the envelope, these days graphics are the same but system req are going higher and higher and games run worst.
yeah,this lazy developers know that some morons don’t understand the meaning of pushing graphics and optimization.some just think that if a game runs like crap no matter how it looks,it’s next gen!
nixxes is not lazy you are just a cry baby troll. move along
this average looking game hasn’t pushed anything but laziness.
I would not consider this average by any means.
I would, POM on the ground, something Two Worlds 2 did in DX10, 6 years ago. The shadows are poor quality from the trees, they look like dark blotches the SSR isn’t too good, AO is pretty poor as well.
Is it parallax or tessellation? I always find it odd how very few games actually do this when it looks so cool.
People forget the first Crysis game has the same issue.
Play it on Maximum and it will bring a 970 down to 30fps. This is something people gloss over because Crysis is considered a technical watermark, but drop the AA and the settings down one preset and you will see massive gains for relatively little visual difference.
It’s not really a problem when you get almost all the visual oomph at the High/Very presets.
If it was a choice between Ultra and awful fps and Awful visuals and a smooth experience I’d understand, but that’s simply not the case here.
In any any case visual quality and performance hit don’t operate on a linear curve, with smaller gains at the higher end depending on where those gains are coming from.
If it is resolution intensive stuff like reflections, seriously high res shadows etc; then the fps hit is huge and the visual difference very small (which is exactly what is happening with this game).
These things are exceptionally computationally expensive, but being poor value performance wise is not the same as being poorly optimised <— and that's something people are having trouble grasping.
I wonder, would it have just been better if the developer hadn't included the Ultra preset (which is basically an overkill mode)? From what I can tell even the Very High preset is above what the console versions are.
2 x 980 ti amp extreme run it well enough. 1440. 1 980 ti doesn’t.
No msaa though..
good point.of course it doesn’t look good for what it asks.some just don’t get it.
Yeah, lots of shills will attack you if you have problems with the game even if it’s broken for the most.
So people should be in silence, paying their money and getting broken garbage product ?? Nice one dude your so smart
lol it’s not broken garbage.. Far from it. I am happy to see how well it runs on just my 970 alone. SLI just adds performance. However people on Steam , Reddit cry 1000X more then kids did back in the Nes days…
Dude if its work on your machine doesnt mean it works for others I m 21 and if the game doesnt work I give negative review, or refund, no one should support this kind of marketing, its like they are selling you clothes with holes
Well make sure your system is up to spec. That simple
Depends on the hardware and how much care you put at it
let him be,he is so fond of crappy looking ports asking for too much power.what a joke John Mellinger is.
lol the only joke is people like you. You don’t know me.
yeah but what you post here make you a joke.go enjoy your low standards peasant.
lol seems like the only peasant is a troll such as yourself. I am going to enjoy the game now. You can cry about it. I bet you don’t even own it to begin with 🙂 Peace
you can think as much as you want.i am not gonna buy this crap when it runs like shit.owning the game will not make this game run better peasant.
lol keep telling yourself that. Again you don’t own the game. In which you don’t know s h i t and most likely don’t understand what performance is. And yeah like I said it’s a nixxes port ans it’s common for their games to need Patches like normal.
It’s been like that since 1999 from them 🙂
Deus Ex: Steam Reviews Divided
Seriously can developers stop using ancient outdated tech like MSAA, especially if its clearly broken and useless for almost everyone.
From what I have been playing it’s not even needed at all. With the temp AA I don’t see jaggies one bit and it’s pretty hard to find them even with AA off
with AA off you do find them, unless you don’t have a keen eye for this kind of stuff 🙂
I see just fine. Even tested on my 55 Inch TV which does require Temp AA at times. Overall the Dawn engine is very polished.
now now, we all know tv’s take off that edge and help consoles a lot. by no AA meaning FXAA at all right?
lol no they don’t take the edge off to help consoles lmao how long have you been gaming brah…
been gaming since 97 on nintendo 64 and playstation 1. I know what I’m saying I design for a living.
You sure don’t type like it 🙂
yeah well just cause i don’t type it in your lingo that doesn’t know what the hell i’m talking about. 🙂 TVs take out certain jaggies that the monitors don’t, they soften the overall quality cause of their little rectangular RGB’s opposed to the monitor’s pixels.
What is really pathetic is you sat and waited 6 minutes for my reply 🙂 And TV’s have a thing called Sharpness Brah.
Listen you douche, i didnt wait anything, get over yourself and pull ur head out of the gutter. You’re pathetic kiddo.
I’ve got a 120″ LED 4K do you really think I care about your puny comebacks you call comments?
I am 35 been gaming / testing before you even typed about it.
You’re still a douche bro, still a douche. You used to be a cool guy, but not anymore.
I am cool and check this out..
Deus EX before GR Driver Min 40, Max 76, Avg 55
After GR Drivers Min 40, Max 75, Avg 55 on fraps on a 970
why dont u get a 980ti, they’re really cheap now?
I dont like how FXAA or SMAA looks like compared to MSAA. Shimmering is all over the place, and if you will use temporal filter picture is so blurry, that it looks like console game already. But FXAA + 50% resolution downsample looks superb, picture is sharp and clean, and there’s no shimmering unlike FXAA/SMAA alone.
And people say Gameworks is bad, LOL, 4xMSAA pretty unplayable on a GTX 1070, ultra offers hardly any image quality improvement with a big performance hit, if it was a NVIDIA Gameworks title, sh*t would be hitting the fan right now. As for outdated tech, yeah stop using POM, that’s from 2007.
Nixxes can do no wrong they said. this is their 3rd bad port yet people will defend it and call it the best team. lol at people with 1080 ultra 4k60fps before release.
really.such a sad fact it is that people defend their crappy ports.
Fortunately I have two GTX 1080 for ultra 4k/60fps but I cannot play it till September 1st because I am away from my PC for another week.
You can’t play it with that resolution and that frame rate even on high.
Yeah it’s really demanding, can’t keep 60fps on ultra on a GTX 1070, not that there is much different with some of the ultra settings, in the 80s on very high, no MSAA.
Well i don’t call it demanding, i call it lazy. i mean come on, a 1070 can’t run it at 60fps and 3D models are just straight up last gen.
Hard to explain but Deus EX does not need MSAA AA at 1080P the temp AA works amazing… Can’t find jaggies. Single 970 / 970 SLI performance seems good so far. However like all Nixxes ports the game could use some more optimization patches and well as Driver Maturity as a month goes on. This is just common in Nixxes ports. They are never Perfect Day 1 it’s just that simple.
As for AMD performance from what I have seen and chit chatted with people about they are not having issues on their end.
Will do a Before / After Gameready Driver video when I get some more time. It’s just hard working 10 hour shifts and having a normal life while trying to make video’s / testing ect ect.
I hope everybody who has the game enjoys. And make sure to keep MSAA off. Game don’t need it at all. And remember watch your V-ram if you have to turn a few options down to keep from stuttering.
I just bought it retail and installing it now!!! I will play it on very high with MSAA off at 1440p. That the max settings 970 G1 GMING can run this game. Ultra is not worth it anyway because it drops perfomance a lot without having much of a difference.
Well mixed reviews I knew this is gonna happen like with all major triple A titles
Well it is nixxes. People think they are perfect since they got Tombraider / RotTR on Steam sales… They never got them Day 1… So they just expect it to be perfect.
another average looking game that runs like crap and needs more power than it deserves by Nixxes.yet some people still believe this company offers good ports!
lol the crying never ends…
lay off them bro. i see you’re on a mission but lay off srsly.
People like him expect to run the game on Ultra on a 750 TI with 120 fps at 1080p…
well i guess not everyone is blessed with 2k, 4k gaming. What can you do..
get out peasant.
ew. give me 1440p at 160fps+ any day
Interesting topic.
A few questions:
1. Do the graphical advancements in comparison to DE:HR justify those requirements? (There’s a big difference between those two games in that matter – min. and recommended specs on Steam)
2. Why make “ultra” graphics settings available on day one, if the visual difference is barely negligible but the performance hit’s quite severe?
(Tbh I can’t really see any “envelope pushing” in the graphics department, not to mention those stiff and imprecise animations (in very frequent melee attacks, or during cut scenes), so the talk about ultra settings being for future graphics cards seems like bs to me).
3. Why a few developers are able to implement MSAA without creating major performance issues (Codemasters’ Dirt or Grid series come in mind, maybe others will recall other devs/titles where turning MSAA on wasn’t so detrimental to fps level.) while in other games it more often than not cuts your frames in half?
4. WtF is temporal AA, FXAA or something?
Have a transformative day.
It’s a post AA with a temporal filter which stops simmering and crawling as the image moves, basically like NVIDIA’s TXAA, and in games like Fallout 4, Crysis 2,3 have TAA.
Wonderful GameReady Drivers… Thanks for not supporting Maxwell GPUS!
Deus EX before GR Driver Min 40, Max 76, Avg 55
After GR Drivers Min 40, Max 75, Avg 55 on fraps on a 970
Looks like Back to Red Team I go!
There are great Fury-X and Fury Nitro OC+ on Sale
Starting 379USD for X and lot cheaper for Great Nitro -> You can Play games for Years on that Kraken + You have Epic Radeon Image/Render Quality 😉
You will see the difference if you have min. 8bit monitor & not TN like 6bit.
Also there are great Smasung LED PLS 10bits with Freesync also (ready to overclock Freesync to 33-75)
I’ve noticed this as well in fact my sli 980 ti have been getting lower framerates lately with the last 4 or 5 driver updates. Same old nvidia only supporting the 10 series now.
I’ve been noticing that as well with my 780 with quite a few games. Old drivers for me have better performance in most games nowadays.
To be honest, I’m getting kinda tired of nvidia now because of that. Even their new drivers, supposedly optimized for new games are not as optimized as they say.
:))
Got some SweetFX nonsense making this look all cartoony or is that the look of the game? Talking about the Prague level. The Dubai stuff looks as I expected. Prague looks almost cel-shaded.
GTX 1070 OC, Very High settings, 1080p, TAA, sharpen on.
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On my R9 280X at High mixed with some other settings i have 60fps all the time, no stutering what so ever the only problem is some kind of mouse acceleration
I cant fathom why this game needs such power it’s hardly a good looking game and besides it’s very linear and sectioned off.
You need 8GB of VRAM to max it out at 1440p. :-p
Thanks for the info but, that is utterly ridiculous for visuals of this quality.
Call me crazy, but Crysis 3 looks way better than this game.
And publishers know about this. hey lets release a crappy game with tons of issues, zombies will defend it and they fight each other while we are on our way to the bank.
Haven’t heard any complaints from AMD users, only Nviida users because Nvidia commands the high end market (which again, suggests I’m right in thinking people are trying to push extremely high settings).
I’m not using DSR. Although DSR x4 looks nice, anything below 4x (like 3x, 2x, 1,5x) is downscaled with problems (edges and lines arnt clear as they supposed to be, and It’s even hard to read small fonts). Instead I’m using two methods, gedosato downsampling tool with lanczos very high resampling filter for direct9 games (you will get RAZOR SHARP picture even with 20% downsampling), but most of the time for dx10 (and dx11, dx12) games I’m just adding custom resolution in Nv control panel. Custom resolutions created in Nv panel unlike DSR are resampled without issues, fine print is celar and to me the end result looks exactly as sharp as MSAA (picture is way sharper compared to FXAA alone, theres no shimmering, and no shader aliasing). If you want to learn how to create custom resolutions for downsampling, there is a guide “downsampling how to” on guru3d, but now there’s no pictures there (but you can still learn how to create custom resolutions from that quide, even withoit pictures). And BTW. I’m not using FXAA in sweetfx or ingame settings, FXAA enabled in the Nv control panel looks the best most of the time.
thanks mate.
Honestly… Crysis 2 still looks better!
Cyberpunk is gonna make this look like a cellphone game
you dont own jack $hit and the only thing you designed is your mom’s tramp stamp
come and say that to my face. You don’t own half the sh*t i do, including 4+2yr masters education, house and 90k sports car.
Do you think it would be improved if the texture was a bit higher rez?