This is something we’ve seen happening in almost every God damn gaming event these past years. Both Sony and Microsoft have been using PCs to showcase their games. And as you’d expect, during this year’s Gamescom, Microsoft decided to ‘camouflage’ a number of PCs in order to showcase one – or even more – of its titles.
CentrumHer shared today the following images, showing the Windows Desktop environment of a PC that was running Ori and the Blind Forest (Ori and the Blind Forest crashed back to desktop while a boy was playing the game). Instead of claiming that what attendees were playing was the PC version and nothing more, Microsoft went one step further and included Xbox One units in order to misguide everyone.
What I find also funny is that the PC systems that were used were using Nvidia’s hardware. As we can clearly see in the first image, the latest version of the GeForce Experience was not even installed on them. Which is kind of weird as both Xbox One and PS4 are powered by AMD’s GPUs. I guess the PC version of Ori and the Blind Forest runs best on Nvidia’s hardware then.
Ori and the Blind Forest is the only game that has been proven running on the PC instead of Xbox One during Gamescom. However – and given the fact that MS tries desperately to ‘hide’ PC systems beneath its games’ booths – we are pretty sure that even more titles are/were running on PC hardware instead of actual game consoles.
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Shouldn’t this be illegal? Straight up false marketing.
anything about those boxes are false advertising
Thats all the games industry is built on nowadays. It seems false advertising is allowed when it comes to video games and it only seems to be getting worse.
lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE
so, why they put xbox one in front of that TV when it’s running on a pc ? stop making fake user names derp and stop copy/pasting comments a*shole
No, this Article is a reminder of the truth behind E3: 90% of the Stage Presentations & Playable Demos are running on PCs, as showcased several times over the years through various Game Crashes, because they generally play the Game smoother than the actual Consoles do, especially pre-Final Release, due to their higher leniency (read: better Hardware).
This was especially so at the end of Last-Gen, with the PS3/X360 Games requiring extensive work to even run at 30 FPS, 720p.
Most people have the decency to hide it under the counter/behind the cardboard wallpaper though, instead of trying to hide their bullshit right under your nose.
They’re running on devkits or PCs with similar specs. And no, it’s not illegal.
False advertising is illegal.
only when it’s false.
False false advertising isn’t illegal.
Devkits don’t use a rival companies hardware in it. If this truly was a devkit, it would at least use AMD GPUs and not Nvidia.
You don’t know if they are similar specs and if the game is running with the same settings as a retail version. For example Forza 5 looked better before people got their hands on the retail version. Running on ”xbox ones”.
Edit: and apparently they are using nvidia cards here, both xbox and ps4 use AMD stuff.
“similar specs”
Please tell me what 8 core cpu has 1.7ghz?
They are running them on more powerfull rigs and in the end the result will be that the game wont look as good eg forza. Since when you damage control for ms? Last time i checked you hated microsoft “Shills” and “delusional mentally ill xbots”
Well technically they are still previewing the game. They didn’t say the game trailers and previews would be on XBox One, just for it.
peasantry at it’s finest
Mental illness at its sickest.
You and dakan45 regularly tell people you are going to kill them, or to kill themselves, or any number of horrible things because they like to play video games on a different piece of plastic than you.
Deranged fanboys screaming about “master race” and “peasants” need to get help.
@JohnDio:disqus
john, ban this mother fucker. he upvoted my post 140times. he is not just a troll but a butthurt hacker. this is illegal and have nothing to do with freedom of speech
Ban this douchebag too, he has no idea what education is.
shut up peasant
tell me about education no seriously tell me, amir may seem like a douchebag to you but thats becuase he cant take anymore crap from this idiot who makes 232454 acounts and keep spamming. Seriously its getting annoying.
You are aware this got linked on the PCMR Reddit and got a huge amount of hits so you may have got a lot of upvotes from brothers?
Still. Derp needed a ban since he was trying to dox people and abusing the flagging system to stop Dakan from posting.
i couldn’t find it 😀 my user is lu**2 in there. have any links ?
i guess i found it , that 1550upvote ?
Correct. Stayed in the first page for about 2 days as well so DSOG probably got a huge traffic surge out of it hence why everyone is getting massive upvotes.
So no. It wasn’t derp. I doubt he knows even how to proxy.
God Damn, Derp is everywhere. I came here from Reddit, and found derp. Small Internet.
He’s on reddit? What’s his username?
No I meant I found this site from Reddit. He is all over another site powered by disqus I frequent. That isn’t a PC Site.
ture :))
he did upvote his derp user name once more than 100+ but maybe he posted something else on /r/peasant sub reddit 😀
It hit /r/games and was posted on /v/ a couple of times so it probably got a bunch of peasants. The sony peasants were not happy that I posted the PS4 pic as well (To keep them out and remind them of console inferiority) and some sites also reported it in the main text. :^)
It’s been a very poor week for peasants. Sony peasants in particular.
Now you’re shilling here? Go back to WCCFTech.
No don’t send him to WWCF. We don’t want him either. He can go be delusional on IGN with all the other denialists.
yeah, IGN is the best place for him 😀
what did the idiot say?
Xbox one was doomed to a failure! just because Microsoft don’t know how to manage gaming department!
you are doomed. lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
Hahahaha…. Xbone Lovers are doomed to fail! haha
disgusting to be honest.
Windows 8 on every XB1. This seems to prove it’s true.
That’s Windows 7. You’ve never used either 7 or 8 have you …
lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE….
And you’re a re-posting shill.
please stop trolling. while you are at it please stop commenting about things that you never understand. XONE is damaging itself and gaming industry and examples are everywhere.
Ori and the blind forest runs off of the Unity Engine so I dunno why they had to fake it, it also means that bloody forza Horizon 2 can work on windows, still hilarious seeing Nvidia hardware running it, Shows you how much faith they have towards AMD
Caught? No it’s standard practice. They run the games on PC devs don’t need to worry about optimizing their games at the last minute for consoles. Sony no doubt do it as well.
The people who played Call of duty said they didn’t notice any aim assist which indicates that booth is also using PCs
1. Aim assist for controllers could be in the PC version temporarily, shouldn’t take more than turning some 0 in the cfg/ini into a 1 so I really don’t see how this would be a sign for PCs being used. They’re dumb if they ran it without aim assist. FPS on controllers is unplayable without aim assist.
2. The people are most likely simply wrong, I’ve seen the gameplay footage (not trailer), looked like it had aim assist.
Can’t believe I’m technically defending COD right now.
He’s saying the build that was used was being tested on PC’s, so perhaps someone forgot to change that 0 to 1 🙂
So you’re saying the people PLAYING the game are lying because you WATCHED a video.
Yeah I’m not ever bothering to have this discussion.
“Don’t need to worry about optimizing their games at the last minute for consoles” – They’ve a lot of work to do then, considering this has an Nvidia card in it. Why would the devs program a machine that has the wrong hardware. This is not an Xbone dev kit, it’s a full on, PC with Windows 7 (Not 8 you notice). Don’t kid yourself.
Where did I say it’s a Xbox One dev kit?
No where. Is reading hard for you? FYI a console dev kit is basically a PC.
See the thing is they put an Xbone there to try and swindle people. The common practice is there, but in those cases you don’t actually see the console. This is just plain lying to consumers.
Proof that consoles are just cut down PCs.
You didn’t need proof. Just look at the specs and hardware. Consoles are PCs with a custom OS.
Exactly. These trolls on here are clueless.
Oh the irony of your comment …
Not really since PC’s can run games At 1080 and 4K at 60fps , while consoles can’t even do proper 1080p
Yeah… in a sense…didn’t refer to it that way, but yeah then I phrased it incorrectly. Sorry
LOL!! What?!? Let me know what you’ve come back from Fantasy Land.
Which bit did he make up? The fact the XBone rarely runs at 60/1080p or the fact PCs do and are also running at 4k? Both are true statements.
Never saw a high-end PC, I guess? PC when built right can go 4k at 60 FPS, some people even going for 144 FPS with high-end monitors. It’s expensive as hell, but for real graphicwhores, PS4 and XBone are at the same as the Wii U in comparison to PCs. And they amuse themselves with you little “console wars”-ish thing. :3
I think we can look at the votes here and tell who is right
This isn’t a console running Windows 7, this is a PC in place of an XBOX at an XBOX game demo. You can tell because of the NVIDIA GeForce Experience notification in the bottom right corner. Consoles use AMD GPU’s, not NVIDIA GPU’s.
This is a XB1 SDK running Windows 8. That’s about it.
MS paid you to pretend their shit console is good, didn’t they?
llol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE
Ever heard about honesty and princibles. Apparently not.
This article is about how Microsoft uses PCs to showcase games instead of their own system because they know how underpowered it is. If anything, the damage being done to the XBO is by its creators. This scenario can be equated to a couple adopting a child and showing how great they are while their real kid is busy eating paste and hitting its head on the wall.
so why they didn’t show it on XBONE ? i bet XBONE can’t even run this s*itty 2D INDIE GAYME on 1080p so they used a PC
Again, just so you understand. The XBone has an AMD, get it? AMD APU in it. This PC, in the images, is using an Nvidia card. The evidence is there. So this is NOT an Xbone running Windows, it’s a PC, pretending to be an XBone, to give better performance. You get that now? You with it? Unless M$ have changed the hardware in the XBone overnight, THIS IS A PC! Good, glad we’re clear now.
Oh I forgot, this is not Windows 8 either. This is Windows 7. Windows 8 would probably drop to the Metro UI and that wallpaper is the default Windows 7 wallpaper, not the Windows 8.1 (Which the XBone is running).
what is an XBONE? Are you stupid? IT’S CALLED XBOX ONE or ONE or X1 or XB1. You can’t even abbreviate right. You fail.
Also the login screen with the flower is standard w7.
And there is a drop-down menu for Christ’s sake. XBox One’s do not need that.
If it was an XB1 SDK it wouldn’t have an Nvidia experience notification as the SDK’s run on AMD processors just like the real console. Besides, it’s very clearly Windows 7 running on that screen. And as we saw at /build/, Xbone games run just fine on PC with just a few tweaks. Tweaks they will never make publicly, though, for it will kill the business model.
it’s windows 7.
no it’s not + see that Geforce experience in there ? it’s for nvidia’s cards. it’s win 7, even MS knows how s*itty their win 8 is, and no their SKD doesn’t actually looks like a PC’s Win 8
It shows you that NVIDIA cards are better, thou I wonder if they were running an GeForce GTX TITAN.
AMD cards, currently, hold the title of best performers actually. The TITANS are a completely ripoff, first off, as the base Titan performs worse than a 780 Ti but costs more, and the Titan Z is 2 780 Ti’s for the price of three 780 Ti’s, they’re a monstrosity.
AMD cards are vastly cheaper, are much more cost effective, and perform better across the board. If we’re getting into the goliath cards of each respective company as well, the 295X2 is actually worth the price for a number of reasons.
Peasant crashes to desktop.
I find this infuriating, but I can say at least the PS4 behaves more like a PC than the PS3. Xbone probably is just a PC. The most affordable, reliant and portable of its quality. No point getting the highest possible specifications just for the sake of slightly better visuals. Thats all the PC people have, and a ton more problems.
In a way the Xbones EDRAM or ESRAM or whatever it is sets it apart from PCs more than the PS4. I don’t know of any component inside the PS4 that you couldn’t put into a PC. Windows on the other hand wouldn’t know what to do with a second type of RAM, it wouldn’t even find a place on PC mainboards.
ESRAM is only there to help the GPU bandwidth and nothing more because the XB1 uses DDR3, since it’s more media orientated. ON the flip side, even the PS4 has some DDR3 to help the latency on the UI because GDDR is bad for media latency.
Isn’t that ddr3 for arm streaming/os chip?
From what I read it’s to help with the background tasks of the console because DDR3 has low latency.
Well if it is it’s nothing to do with latency. It’s just cheaper and don’t require high bandwidth of gddr. Yeah, latency is slitly higher but it’s not something that will cause problems with anything. It’s nanoseconds we are talking about. Most standard ddr3 low/mid-low pieces have comparable timings. (And coming ddr4 will be even closer because it’s based a lot on gddr5).
It makes a big difference with media tasks, that’s why Microsoft picked it for the XB1 and why the PC uses it for main memory, i.e low latency and one reason why DDR was picked over Intel’s Rambus.
No, it doesn’t. Please, educate yourself http://www.redgamingtech.com/ps4-vs-xbox-one-gddr5-vs-ddr3-latency/
PC’s already have two types of RAM…DDR on the motherboard and GDDR on the GPU.
Keep dreaming, Sony peasant.
10 years ago it was true that you needed to spend more to get similar or better visuals, but PC gaming has evolved to a point where nowadays you can get similar performance at similar price (the fact that PS4 and Xbone use mediocre hardware has an effect in this aswell, considering PS3 and 360 had high-end hardware for their time), and vastly superior performance at the price of both consoles, as long as you stay away from Alienware and “gaming” prebuilts in general which are ripoffs and most likely the reason so many people think PC gaming is so expensive.
And you really don’t get so many problems on PC unless you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing. I rarely had any problems during years of using a PC, and consoles can have their issues too.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha……
It sucks for all xbox fans, but I can see it as a good sign for PC players.
lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE…
In b4 the usual Sonydrone’s show up to try sneak in some garbage posting while crying they lost MGS V
Quick reminder though
PC
ALWAYS
WINS
Hahaha. This is pathetic. Even $ony and Micro$oft know that their consoles sucks ass.
Windows 8 is on every XB1 sooo…. Yeah ok. lol!!
Nice b8 m8.
u wot.
I’ve looked, and looked, and I need to ask: WTF you’re trying to say here, son?
he’s trying to say the xbox one uses X86 just like a pc does and plays it’s games just like a pc does. it uses windows 8 as an operating system too.
Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred.
go fu*k yourself peasant and die peacefully
That’s not the way we are supposed to do things Amir…
i know, i’m not like that to people dude (i have tons of good friends and most of them are console gamers) but he is not any people, he has 10x account for one purpose, and now he learned how to hack disqus and he is doing it. he is much like a bot. i’m not against console gamers, don’t like them when they pick a fight against us in a pc gaming site but i’m ok with that too, the problems is trolling and doing it over and over again every day with different accounts and copy pasting the same thing and then trying to hack other people’s account
I agree, but demfax is irritating. He just hops from one PC gaming Disqus section to the next troll via lying and insulting. I have to put up with reading his garbage posts on like 5 websites. I’m just saying I could definitely see how someone lose their cool, buts gain I agree more tact is necessary.
demfax is guest, ps4lol, godgaming derp, not true, extreme derp and propably other acounts that he makes when he gets banned.
He isn’t just on PC gaming sites, he trolls everywhere.
he is not spreading lies assclown, so get if over you thikc skull sony LIES …fact, we are not gonna change our opinion on ps4, no matter how much you scream and shut so shut your mouth.
Sick in the head fanboy screaming about peasants. Get mental help.
@JohnDio:disqus
see john, he is trying to spam upvote for your site users to get their account fucked up and your allowing this attacks.
what did the dumbfck said?
nothing usual :)) mentaly ill blah blah blah
Even MS uses windows 7..
No kidding! Windows 8 was developed around the idea of micro-transactions and the Windows Store and nickle-and-diming casual consumers.
Because it’s emulating software, why would they spend thousands developing new emulating software that already works on 7, god damn you’re a tard.
They could use an offcial xbone ya know.
It’s not emulating nothing, XB1 is x86 and DIrectX, there is nothing to emulate. The Xb1 games are running on PCs using DirectX 11.
They don’t need an emulator. The game runs x86 as it does on console, they probably just have some runtime environment they need to make it work.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
If you know anything about how computers work, you will know that this is true. I mean seriously Microsoft even DID it on screen at /build/ conference, if my word isn’t enough for you.
Oh yeah, I see your logic now. Perfectly explains the presence of powered on xbox one consoles.
Ok josh, normally I don’t do this, but that comment made NO sense.
Powered Xbox One… Henceforth it must be the Xbox!
Experiment:
Unplug the HDMI to the Xbox (while it is still running, mind you) from your flatscreen TV, plug in the HDMI from your computer to the Flatscreen, and behold the magic… You have installed Windows (or Mac/Linux) on your xbox.
Seriously… Please think.
The game is coming to PC, you don’t think it’s just.. you know.. the PC version of the game?
No the developers are using windows 7 apparently. The developers setup the game presentations for their individual booths in the area given to them. Obviously they didn’t have a stable version of the game to take to the show so they improvised.
Shame on the developers should be what this article is about.
No, shame on all of them. If the devs weren’t ready then Microsoft should have told everyone instead of forcing them into this mess, and the devs should have been done if they were given a deadline to be finished at this time. The devs and Microsoft are being ridiculously dishonest with the ways they are doing things. Whats worse is that this is no surprise and that it has happened in the past many times.
how is it false ? xbox runs windows.. it is a pc
It runs a modified version of Windows 8, a completely different OS.
Also the PC is using completely different hardware, its an entirely different machine.
All video games are developed on a PC. The reason it’s ‘false’ is because they placed an XBox under the monitor. The XBox is a lie.
Yes, but coded with the hardware and software of the Xbox in mind, they won’t just simply run on the PC like a PC game does.
The game is running on a Nvidia GPU when the consoles run on AMD. Not even the dev kits run Nvidia. Why would Microsoft purposely make the devs make the game run on Nvidia if not to make it seem like the game will run better on the console?
So everyone is shocked that the games that are still in Development that they are running on pc’s that they are developed on lol.
But, notice the XBOX sitting on the desk. They’re trying to make people think that it’s running on an XBOX, and that the XBOX actually has graphics that are that good. It’s not because PC is the development platform, it’s just trickery.
are you stupid? lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
Another one that can’t read. THE PC IS USING AN NVIDIA CARD. THIS IS NOT AN XBONE DEV KIT! THE XBONE USES AN AMD APU. THE XBONE ALSO USES WINDOWS 8, THIS IS WINDOWS 7. You’re welcome.
Who cares the game is still in Development, which means it still being made and not finished. This is just something to show people what the game will be like. Hell the game they are playing isn’t even a ALPHA build. Us the consumers shouldn’t care unless it looks horrible or doesn’t play when the FINAL build is released to the masses. Until then sure it looks deceiving I get that, but this maybe the way they have it setup for people to test the game with.
The problem is that they put an XBOX on the desk. Why would they bother making the game on a NVIDIA card when the console uses AMD. It’s not a dev kit and Microsoft is lying.
the Problem is, that you are stupid. lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
wow. derp v2.1
you are a derp, if you beileve that the xbox one can’t run this game. this is a 2D INDIE GAME. lol you know NOTHING about development.
guys, guys a different comment from this 2D INDIE GAME GUY.
it can’t run Diablo 3 at 1080p 😀 and it’s not demanding at all,so ? this can be the case here 😀 that 2D INDIE GAME might be too demanding for it
nah he doesnt talk like a robot. He is not derp.
lol
wtf? lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
GLORIOUS
PC GAMING MASTER RACE
If only Microsoft bothered to make their shit work correctly for the master race…
(cough cough GFWL)
M$ pays developers who are financially in trouble to keep games away from PC . Treats PC like its enemy and then uses it to showcase their games on it . Lol , M$ . You will never change .
Microsoft owns Quantum Break IP though,it’s their game
Agree about new TR
yeah and PC is their platform too and they say all the time that how they love to support pc gaming
How do they know these aren’t SDK systems? Also, ever PS4 and XB1 game starts on the PC, so…. who cares?
they use it so the games look better lol
They make the games on PC of course, you don’t demo the f*cking console game on the PC and then put an Xbox 1 in front of them. If the game is not ready on the console, don’t bring it, that simple. It’s clearly to show the game in better light running on a powerful PC than an alpha junk console version.
A Xbox SDK would be using a AMD GPU not a Nvidia GPU because that’s what the consoles run on.
Suck them yourself, weak troll.
run behind pc 😛
See how those poor PCs are disguised as Xbox Ones . ROFLMAO .
Bunch of frauds .
All my GOD! this change my world! Now I’ll sell my XBOX ONE and buy ps4…#noteven, suckers… Hide Pc…kkkk! the panel are translucid…kkkk…!
Scandalous! How can the peasantry continue to defend these potatoboxes!?! Outrageous! Good God man, have they no decency? Have they no SHAME?!? I’ve a mind to march down there right now and give them what for!
They never learn, like their customers.
They deserve each other.
what? lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
Are you a bot?
he is 😀 or maybe they have worms instead of brain
Yep copy/pasta shill. Mumpitz mean shenanigans in german. How appropriate.
Not such a big deal though. Ori will be identical on PC and XBOX, maybe the XBOX version was not available yet from the developer. Seems like a great game but not something that will be downgraded on the console hardware so not really a misrepresentation of the final product.
Nope, getting the console version up and running than doing it for the PC is easier according to devs, well clearly NOT.
Your article is stupid as hell. Of course they are using PC its a hell of a lot easier to take something mid-development and keep it ported to work on the same format its being developed on. You seem like you would be surprised to walk into a game development studio and surprised to see every one using a PC to develop the game. As far as the Nvidia hardware goes, your an idiot doing a PC demo has little affect on what hardware is used because the game does not have a direct hardware communication buss like it does in consoles. Seriously don’t write sensationalized bullshit when you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
article is not stupid, the stupid part is they hide a PC behind that xbox to fool people like you moron
How am I a moron? I get that they are using an xbox as a front, after all it is an Xbox event, however these games are still in development and not slated for the consoles so why take all the time to port the sons of bitches from the development device (the PC) and put it to a playable format on the Xbone? The Nvidia hardware the article writer points out is useless and doesn’t mean shit as PC’s dont access the graphics processor as a Console dose. Also don’t go on and on about your MasterRace, I’m part of it dont even own a console, dont want one. What I was pointing out was this article makes a lot of claims but knows nothing of how game development. NO SHIT PC’s ARE BEING USED BUT THIS SHOULD BE EXPECTED! So what if they are putting up xbox fronts its eventually going to get there. They never said out right at the presentation HEY WE HAVE THIS RUNNING ON A BRAND NEW XBONE!! They showed it running but never mentioned on what. I am more pissed of at sensationalized bullshit reporting that makes mountians out of mole hills and has no expertise to back up their stupid mouths.
so why they didn’t used a PC instead ? that is microsoft’s booth, they could easily put a pc there and run the game on it. but hiding the pc behind that cover and using an xbox one’s shell to show the game is the main problem because it means “HEY WE HAVE THIS RUNNING ON A BRAND NEW XBONE” but it’s false.
+ this article is not stupid: 1. it brings more hit to the site & 2. it’s true
sorry for calling you moron dude.
You know what’s the most stupidest thing about this? The fact that they have the default Windows 7 wallpaper on and desktop icons. Make it not look like a Windows desktop you morons, you’ve clearly hidden the taskbar and done half the job.Microsoft clearly wasn’t expecting such things to happen, bunch of twatts, console users won’t know what Windows is or a PC, derp!
Cuz… you know… games aren’t developed on PC or anything… right? They’re made right on the console and devs use the gamepad to input everything. Everyone knows that…. duuuur!
This is not the point. If you’re going to showcase the game, make sure it’s on the target platform. Also, Xbox One SDKs exist and tools to run games that are unfinished on an Xbox One also exist. You should never deceive your customers by running a product on a platform where it does not belong. Please keep in mind that this PC contains an Nvidia video card and we have no idea whether the game will look as good or run as good once it is on the Xbox One.
Just merge the XBox and Windows platforms already. Quit pretending that you have a console, Microsoft.
Funny, I switched back to 7 this year myself after giving 8/8.1 12 months of my life…
i have them both installed, but last time i booted to win 8.1 was 7 months ago lol i spent about 3 to 4hrs with it and only tested BF4 on it
Yup. Nothing new. These games are all designed on PCs, so of course all games will run on PC.
I’m a ps4 developer, and I’ve been showing my game on Ps4, but, honestly, for a game like this, it just doesn’t matter. The old laptop I develop on is way less powerful than a ps4. Just it’s often easier to use the pc build you’ve been developing with. I’m thinking the Ori folks probably just had some library that wasn’t ready yet or the like, and the alternative to showing on pc was to not show at all.
sony is jumping up an down LOOK 1080P 60 FPS on a indie game… duh obviously even a laptop can do it.
lol we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
You know how bad it is when they even use it for 2D games. They do it with ALL games for their potatos.
Its all about their business practices which are willingly misguiding.
he is a trollbot not a human and he tries to spam people’s accounts in this site. look at his comments, copy paste copy paste
he is not the first, this bot is Xbot bot, there is another one which is PSbot
Yeah, i noticed that already:)
Delicious copy/pasta.
loll we are talking about an 2D INDIE GAME. The game will look and Play the same on XBOX ONE and PC. The article is a pathetic and ridiculous attempt to damage XBOX ONE..
Get lost.
Mumpitz means shenanigans in german. Very appropriate.
GTFO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS THE MOST HUMILIATING event if have ever seen!
What’s really funny is they are using Windows 7, not 8.1
So let me get this straight… they have PC ready games that they aren’t releasing on PC?…. Da wa….
Technically all Games are developed on PC, the Game Engines themselves have the ability to play the Games through built-in Runtime Environments/Emulators, in order for the Developers to easily test features & changes without having to transport the data to a Console every time first.
It won’t function without the Emulator however, so they still need to Code the Game for PCs; the actual “Porting” is still required of the Developers.
but they are all xbone exlusives are on pc!!!
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oh look, finally XBONE can run a 2D game 1080p 😀
Poor peasants…
LOL, 2012 game, my 2 year old PC spec can run it at 130fps, big deal.
In their view, but Microsoft picked DDR3 because of the XB1 being more media centric so yes lower latency does matter.
No. Microsoft picked ddr3 because it’s CHEAPER. Because of that Sony was going to have only 4gb of GDDR5 but due to the last minute price drop/ new capacity chips they decided to go 8gb gddr5.
Latency is al most the same. There is high chance that ddr in you PC (if you have one) has higher latency than ps4 gddr.
I mean latency is so small that it can’t affect anything. Especially media (I mean common, media features are the most latency-tolerant out there).
“The latency on GDDR5 and DDR3 memory does vary some, but the typical CAS latency of most sticks of DDR3 is between 7 and 9 (see the earlier Tomshardware link for more information). GDDR5 RAM meanwhile is a typical latency of about 15. Once again, all of this depends on the make and models of the RAM.
So – there’s the answer right? Let’s say 8 CAS vs 15 CAS? No, it’s not. We have to remember that the speeds are for all intents and purposes – relative. If you take the CAS of both, and then multiply it by the clock speed – you get the ns of delay. CAS of 15/1.35 = 11ns.”
It’s doesn’t make sense that MS would use DDR3 just for cost alone because the cost of the XB1 is higher than the PS4 anyway, MS knew the PS4 specs.
The logic here is that DDR3 is used because XB1 is more a media box, not an all out gaming console. Also, ESRAM is expensive so they used a small amount to boost GPU bandwidth. The logic of DDR3 being used for cost alone doesn’t make any sense.
It’s only more expensive because of kinect and external power supply. Without it it’s cheaper to make. There is no logic here because, as I said, THERE IS NO difference in ddr3/gddr5 ability to do tasks ASIDE from that gddr5 has much more bandwidth (hence M$ trying to compensate it with esram).
This decision is probably due to
1) ddr3 cheaper (and much more cheaper at the time xbx1 was designed)
4 gigs of gddr cost almost the same as 8 gigs of ddr3 as of 2012 Q4 (prototypes)
but it became much cheaper since when.
2) xbx360 had similar architecture eDRAM/GDDR3 (so they decided to go the same way)
3) They couldn’t switch to gddr5 by the time it became possible to have 8gb of it because they’d have to change their architecture to much, delaying release of console and games while Sony just had to make decision to have 8gb instead of 4gb because by the time ps4 is released it would cost the same.
Just think about some shitty media centers. They use way worse memory than ps4 and xbox one.
And again if you read correctly even if MS uses best low-latency ddr3 (which doesn’t affect anything, check numerous bench-marks) the difference would be around 2-4 nanoseconds in the worst case. There is no way this would change anything. Just one more argument against all your “media” brainwashing. Latency on ssd/hdd is in ms. Usually around 100 of ms.
They all do this. :facepalm: This is nothing new.
all look its that xbot again.
Hey pal we got gta v. A game that pc gamers would never get cuz of piracy.
We got dead rising 3 a game that will never coem to pc or ps4 and its exlusive to xbone.
We got ryse with better graphics.
We are getting mgs v
and destiny is coming soon.
Ps destiny is not on pc, i bet its because of piracy despite the fact its a mmo.
Pc gets everything xbone doesnt have crap.
I guess MS needs to make a Steam-like game store, specific to stop the piracy. And if they’ll do that, I guess it will be branded xbox, so yes, all those games remain branded “xbox exclusive”
edited.
Not sure what you were talking about. It wasn’t bashing PC gaming, but just saying that MS, Sony, and Nintendo have used PCs for demos at conferences. Ever wonder where those wires actually go?
Oh god, this guy doesn’t just troll Gamespot? He got banned there.
I’ve never left Gamespot. You’re just not looking close enough.
So you’re a loser who trolls on multiple alts. Usually one doesn’t admit something that pathetic.
It’s not trolling if I’ll defend it to the death!
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Exactly everyone is doing that, from Microsoft, Nintendo to Sony and any publisher showing games that are supposedly running on consoles. You can troubleshoot your “game demo” on a PC much easier as to when it’s ported to a console, if it hangs/crashes etc., you just terminate the process and start it back up, and we know how alpha/beta software likes to crash and halt the systems.
So really what’s the hurdur about this, it’s been like that for since expos exist, the consoles in front are just marketing and advertisement, and ofc the final products will run on the console.
Arguing weather or not it will look crappier on a console as it does on a PC is without substance, because a) the game is still in development and b) ofc it could look better on a powerful PC in most cases.
You are however not getting mislead by the fact that they demo their games on a more accessible platform, it’s just the way things are done.
OK first off it was the devs behind watchdogs that chose to use a PC to emulate the PS4 due to them being shady with the truth of how far they could take the game resolution wise… They used a PC to showcase its maximum potential as an example. Microsoft however showcased multiple games on the PC for Xbone and stated it as Xbox one .. Sony however did state PS4 was emulated on a PC at that time. Both did use emulations of the consoles … Its how Microsoft used it that really sucks.
It’s a lie because they’re not emulating anything. They’re using NVIDIA GPUs and probably Intel CPUs rather than all AMD, that’s not “similar spec” and if it was they’d be using AMD FX CPUs and AMD GPUs, clearly they’re not because of the NVIDIA Geforce Experience popup.
someone copy that software from windows that runs xbox demos ? 😀
or, they installed Windows 7 on X1 😀
lol, not likely
Reminds me, when I worked at Kansas Cellular and had a booth at Bramlage Coliseum. The competition did not have service in the building. They had a booth and programmed their phones with our service. Otherwise they would not have sold any contracts.
You should check your own article. It got fixed. Moron. 🙂
how “surprising”…