It appears that Denuvo has been working on a new version of its anti-tamper tech, especially after what happened with Resident Evil 7. Resident Evil 7 used the latest version of Denuvo and was cracked in just five days. As such, some people believed that this was the end of Denuvo. However, it was revealed that the team has completely revamped its anti-tamper tech.
This new version of Denuvo will be used in most future titles. We know for a fact that Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 will be using it, though it remains a mystery whether For Honor, Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Wildlands and Mass Effect: Andromeda will use this new version of Denuvo.
It will be interesting to see whether this new version of Denuvo will be easily cracked by the scene groups or not.
Denuvo’s anti-tamper tech was able to protect a lot of games from pirates last year. However, a certain group was able to figure out how this tech works and crack it. As such, there have been cracks for a lot of games that are powered even by the latest version of Denuvo.
For Honor releases in a few days, whereas Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Wildlands and Mass Effect: Andromeda will release next month. Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 is planned for an April release.
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Um, what is the source for this? Like, is there an official press release, or is this an insider leak or what?
From a piracy forum, a user say that Denuvo was revamped.
And what source does said user have?
A friend told him in a pub.
I don’t know. Maybe based in analyzing that exe.
Yeah, they’ll keep revamping it every time it gets cracked. It’ll be cracked and revamped again, until it becomes so bloated and unwieldy that starts messing up computers like starforce did back then.
Exactly. They can’t keep “improving” it forever without any side-effect for legit customers (aside of those that already exist). And then this happens… Oooh we, pirates, will be all over it, posting it on any possible forum for everyone to see and fight against denuvo.
“And then this happens… Oooh we, pirates, will be all over it”
Did u just admit you don’t buy games LOLLL>
I live in a country where a game costs 1/3 of minimum wage, I’ll happily admit to downloading pirated games.
How about waiting for it to go on sale like most normal people do when they don’t have the income for it. With this philosophy, why even buy games at all if you can get it free? Even people with income steal games, and of causes great games to never to reach PC because of it .
“How about waiting for it to go on sale like most normal people ”
When it goes on sale it will still be too expensive, the best option will be to lower the initial price in poor countries that brings more sales.
“I consider my actions a necessary evil based on the circumstances of my birth”.
What is so evil in a person that would NEVER buy a original game, download a pirated one?
He is harming who? The game is a digital copy, not a stolen material product.
Look these 2 Scenarios
1 – Slevin-Kelevra cant afford a game, so he dont buy and dont play the game. Game industry loses: 0$
2 – Slevin-Kelevra cant afford a game, so he download a pirated one.
Game industry loses: 0$
But in the second scenario, Slevin-Kelevra can be a potential consumer in the future if the circunstances changes.
You gotta understand that, some people will never be willing to pay 1/3 of their wage in a game, with or without piracy in the market.
Well, think about it, if you make say, 3D models on markets for games for a living, and well, oops, it gets pirated, im sure your not getting harmed.
Lets look at 3 scenarios In.
1 – James-Balboa cant afford your model, so he goes onto a website and downloads it, uses it to learn how to make awesome models: You lose: 0$
2 – James-Balboa cant afford your model, he is making a game for mobile, he pirates your model, edits it for 20 minutes so he cant get slammed for copyright: You lose: 0 – 3000000$ … but then his game gets pirated: You lose: 0$
3 – James-Balboa can afford your model, buys it then edits it for 1 hour circumventing any model per seat/licence, You lose: 0 – 80000000$ … but then his games gets pirated: You lose: 0 – 400000$
You gotta understand stealing is wrong, you cant afford it, so you steal it, you play and enjoy it for 2/3 hours for free.
Yes a game shouldn’t sell for 90 AUD when it could actually sell for 40 AUD and still line everyone pockets, but its economics 101.
Supply and demand, more piracy = cheaper games 🙂
“Slevin-Kelevra can be a potential consumer in the future if the circunstances changes.”
No he’s not. Once you get stuff for free you there is no reason to spend money on it. This is especially true for single player only games.
“some people will never be willing to pay 1/3 of their wage in a game, with or without piracy in the market.”
I doubt kids in Africa priortize gaming over acquiring food. You should be doing something else in your life if you cannot afford to buy games.
” I doubt kids in Africa prioritize gaming over acquiring food. You should be doing something else in your life if you cannot afford to buy games.”
See, this condescending tone of yours that I hate to the point that I want to punch you straight in the face. What do you know about being poor, living in a 3rd world country where what is considered wealthy there, is considered minimum wage in a 1st world one?
I know games are technically a luxury being entertainment, but they are an artform too. An artform separated by a universal price that simply does not work for every part of the globe. If a game in a lesser developed country would be 25-30 dollars, believe me, piracy rates there would reduce significantly.
And lastly, who are you to tell what someone must do with his life? So the fact that people live in poor countries are $hit to begin with, he should be denied any sort of entertainment, even if, while morally grey, they have the means to do it because you say so? Because living only to eat, work and sleep is a pretty sad life m8.
Nah man he should kill himself, how does he dare finding some enjoyment in life buy playing a game for free because he cant afford full price. He should kill himself and stop cutting our corporate profits….MORE MONEYS NEED MORE MONEYS WE GOTTA BUY A NEW FERRARI. IF WE CANT MAKE 60 BUCKS FOR EVERY COPY SOLD, WE WILL MAKE SURE NO ONE CAN GET IT FOR FREE, DIE FILTHY THIRD WORLD PEASANTS.
-Corporate suit
Sorry i couldnt resist. 😀
brown people are poor because of low IQ
”No he’s not. Once you get stuff for free you there is no reason to spend
money on it. This is especially true for single player only games.”
Well, i get pirated games for free and i still pay for the ones i like, specially when the price is lower after a few months.
I have (more or less) 50 steam games, 15 origins, and most of then i played a pirated copy first, some of then year ago when i was a child and i still bought then when i finally could. For consideration to the developers.
Oh, and a new game is about 1/5 of the mininum wage here, so its not like i could buy all those games at once, on full price.
You’re talking like people who do buy TV shows, music have never pirated before.
“Once you get stuff for free you there is no reason to spend money on it. ”
Totally incorrect. As a kid I used to pirate a lot because I didnt have my own income and because my parents couldnt afford in buying me 3-4 games a month.
Fast forward a couple of years in the future: I have my own good job and a healthy disposable income which allowed me to buy most of those games I used to download for free either on Steam or GOG to have them proper and in my collection.
Nowadays, I dont pirate games anymore mainly because I dont have much time to play more than 1-2 games at a time. Furthermore, 90% of AAA releases are released in such a broken state that it’s not worth it to get it pirated because of lack of patches AND its not worth buying it because its broken.
I pirated games when I had no money to buy them. Now, with a job and some money, I already payed for some of the games I played pirated and I didn’t even touch some of them afterwards. For example, I played a prated copy of Skyrim some time ago when I was in college, then a few years later, with some money in my pocket, I decided to buy the Legendary Edition. So yes, people who play pirated games because they can’t afford them, might become a paying customer sometime in the future
Hate to burst your bubble but alot of people pirate a game as a sort of trial, and then end up buying it if they like it. With many steaming piles of crap costing 2-4 times what they are worth, people don’t wanna risk it. Thats what he means by potental customer. Or he may buy said companies other titles in the future.
How about doing without the game. Games aren’t food, clothing or shelter, you don’t need them.
youre a thief.Can you afford a ferrari?NO.So according to your logic you can steal a ferrari because its too expensive for you,youre a thief
And?
i support the game industry by acquiring their games for free.
Well ok
I very rarely buy games. Not sure what so funny you see about it. No shame for me in admitting it. What would I buy, a half-assed Ubisoft game, that can barely entertain me for few evenings with their focus on gameplay, but not on good story? Or… Perhaps some Bioware game where half of my crew are gay/bi, which I find absolutely disgusting and unnecessary? Or perhaps new Resident Evil, which turned series upside down second time and had AGAIN managed to go absolutely wrong way, with first-person and weird enemies? No. I’m not paying for this and this is my way to tell them to go and get bend. I can’t really send a message any other way… I am, however, buying good games that deserve it, such as latest Deus Ex, Tomb Raider or Witcher-3.
I find the romance crap in games to be unnesscary as a whole. Loyalty missions are fine and all, but leave the romance junk out. I never really bother with those in games myself.
I´m a Pirate too, so there is nothing to be ashamed of!
ever heard that the witcher 3 sales is so low because of piracy? (note: witcher 3 didn’t use denuvo and get cracked pretty quickly after release) no? then yes, that’s your answer. people test your game with pirated version first. if they think your game worth their money they’ll buy it. for people who can’t buy your game, they’ll probably play the pirated version and never buy your game, but they still spread the word about your game and led more people to play it. either people buy, or not at all. even if they didn’t buy, they still have their uses. and pirating a game doesn’t hurt company like stealing a ferrari car since it’s just a data.
“ever heard that the witcher 3 sales is so low because of piracy? (note:
witcher 3 didn’t use denuvo and get cracked pretty quickly after
release) no? then yes, that’s your answer. people test your game with
pirated version first. i”
Ever heard of Doom selling a million copies and ID software shutting down as an AAA company because they lost so much money from making Doom.
They blew way to much money on doom a game thats bascally just a generic fps, thats why it didn’t sell enough. You see the better graphics a game has the more money it costs to make, graphics by far cost the most overall. Middle end games graphically actually have a larger profit margin, they look good enough they don’t look bad, and they save millions for the devoloper. Piracy had nothing to do with IDs situation with Doom, that was their own fault for spending beyond their means. As I said the newest doom is pretty, but under that dress its just a generic fps that there is hundreds of if not thousands, so gameplay wish it offered nothing special, and thats where the problem was.
“hey blew way to much money on doom a game thats bascally just a generic fps, thats why it didn’t sell enough.”
I AM SO DONE!!!! I was being sarcastic xD. Doom sold well despite having Denuvo. Anyways I’m not really against piracy. But I just hate it when people try to make a reasoning why what they’re doing is not wrong.
But to think about it, its not denuvo we should be againts, its the gaming companies, they can still make a profit selling games for 40 AUD instead of 90 AUD, more people would buy, less would pirate, and everyone wins.
denuvo already messes up computers. ssd issues, ram crashes etc
Starforce physically blew up CD-ROM drives xD
lol
Kek.
stop lying
No it does. You can be against DRM but there’s no reason to lie about its effect on someone’s PC.
I cant believe some people are still hung up on the now defunct myth about denuvo being bad for your pc. It was one time with the very first denuvo game, Lords of the Fallen, which was quickly confirmed that the game was causing the issue, not denuvo, and was eventually patched. I own a dozen denuvo games, all run flawlessly. Get over it. (also how does one’s ram crash? I know software sometimes can crash, but ram? do you physically abuse your ram?)
That is just pure nonsense spread by clueless people.
Denuvo isn’t like Starforce which ran as a background DRM – modying how the core mechanics of the OS worked.
Denuvo only runs with the game – and its only purpose is to look for hook calls and obfuscate applications that try to read its internal data.
Which means it has no global presence at all.
“Yeah, they’ll keep revamping it every time it gets cracked. ”
where is your proof?….just a word!
a few words, hence more weight then a single word….ps they have been doing revisions each time their precious get cracked, google it. Google is proof, but then again, is it ……..
Proof? History. Want some more proof? How about their own words ‘every protected game eventually gets cracked’? What happened when their latest version got wrecked by CPY in 4 days in RE7? They claim they’ve revamped it.
You really think it won’t happen again? Think again.
I hope ME:A gets cracked in a day just to smack the makers of denuvo in the face, they probally charge way to much for it anyway. with ME:A being a bigger game than re7 you can expect it to get cracked quick. Eventually denuvo will give up like all the rest do, you can’t win, and they are just wasting time and money fighting something that is no where near as bad of a problem as they make on it is. Most pirates had 0 intention of buying the game in the first place, so when you look at it that way, its not a lost sale at all.
ME:A with all its glaring sights of incompetance on the part of bioware, You can bet alot of people want to pirate it to try it for themselves before they will shell out for it, and you know what? I don’t blame them, that turd is not worth 80 canadian, i’d consider 30-40 but 80 is out of the question for how amateurish it looks. Lots of people have already cancelled the preorders due to it. I rarely pre-order a game unless its something like Persona 5 that i KNOW is going to be a solid game. But after trying/seeing the stuff about ME:A I don’t even got interest in buying it anymore, especally not at full price.
The whole making all the female chars look like they got beat up by the ugly bat also pissed me off as there was no excuse for it. The game has by far some of the fugliest female characters I have seen in a game in the last 10-15 years.
It already does mess with performance, on top of restricting modding and even basic INI tweaking.
I think they should just stop paying for the tech myself, anyone who planned to pirate a game is not going to buy it just because they can’t get it on day 1. Besides most “AAA” games are priced 2-4 times higher than they should be for what you get. I hope this denuvo gets cracked in a day, so that devs will stop wasting their money on something that doesn’t improve sales anyway. Don’t forget there are a large number of people that won’t buy a game that has invasive drm, which probally ends up costing them even more.
People pirate games, its part of the way it is, having to wait a few more days as I said is not going to stop them from doing it. If anything, they lose even more sales for having a form of drm people loathe. Also if you want less people to pirate your game, learn how to price it better, just because your an AAA dev doesn’t mean the game is even worth half the normal price you’d charge.
I’m not buying mass effect andromeda myself, after the trial, I feel bioware really screwed the pooch on this one, some of the animations are much worse than early ps2 titles. Even if I didn’t get into the trial with the origin thing, I wouldn’t have bought it after seeing all the stuff I have.
You don’t add more protections – you modify how it protects. Cracking Denuvo was deciphering the mechanic in which it uses to do its job. That took nearly a year to do the first time.
If you redo process in another variation – that will require the hackers to relearn the ins and outs again.
I think they call them ‘triggers’? Or something like that, I could be wrong. Anyway, the latest version has already been cracked in 2Dark. Far from a year.
Well, now the latest version has been completely cracked mate.
I agree. Denuvo will become StarForce 2.0
swimming against the tide ultimately, but will no doubt slow crackers down for a bit.
* Denuvo removed from DOOM “it accomplished its purpose so it was removed”
* Denuvo Bypassed in less than a week “It still manages to makes a difference”
Surely they needed to upgrade their protection but if it was still as successful as they pretend, whats with the timing of their revamp? there was no need to rush based on what they stated.
The Denuvo managers are a bunch of hypocrites, I laughed so hard at their comments over the RE7 fiasco, “made a difference” wahahaha
Indeed, damage control 101.
And can’t protect his own website! lol https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/faca9fd1c0eb91cb3a9892427be1f14c29313c04e955cad8b247a729450905b2.jpg
They still have 30 or so games protected, so despite this fail they are by far the most successful at antipiracy for games.
bf1 was cracked, when CPY feels like it, he cracks stuff so he is all alone.
I dont get your argument though, who cares if some sports game is not cracked.
Good for them.
I support protecting ones work.
But but Denuvo will harm your PC and the performance!
I noticed some guys with old GPUs blame Denvuo when a new game doesn’t run at 1080p, lol.
I play on a PC without a GPU just to make sure I can keep pirating games. /s
Anyone defending piracy, is either broke or broke.
(let’s worry more about the fact we are on camera everywhere but yeah DRM)
If they think DRM is bad, ask them to go into the grocery store and take everything needed to make a meal, then find a place to cook it, plate it, serve it and enjoy it all at the expense of everyone else…oh wait, they can’t.
It’s called COPYing for a reason you idiot.
If you can just walk in a grocery store, look at the products on the shelf and make instant copies of them then yeah, I bet a lot of us would. Copying is not the same as stealing no matter how many times you retards keep repeating the same stupid claim.
Lets call it software theft then.
Definition – What does Software Theft mean?
Software theft means the unauthorized or illegal copying, sharing or usage of copyright-protected software programs. Software theft maybe carried out by individuals, groups or, in some cases,organizations who then distribute the unauthorized software copies to users.
Software theft is committed when someone performs any of the following:
Steals software media
Deliberately erases programs
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Illegally copies or distributes a program
Registers or activates a software program illegally
I have 1440p monitor and the gtx 970 the only game4s that dont run max settings so far are deux ex mankind divided watchdogs 2 and quantum break. If you have gtx 960 or lower of course you are going to have issues even on 1080p but with 970 or better you can run maxed 1440p and get more than 30 fps
Lets add more bloatware and drm on a unoptimized game, screw the consumers.
You won’t feel like that if one day servers shut down and you’re 60 € game with 40 € season pass won’t start anymore, while pirate will start it without any DRM thx to crack.
Denuvo every now and then and for every hardware change reactivates the thing. You don’t see that because it’s all painless and unless you dig you don’t even know game uses denuvo.
As if you think I am going to play one game forever.
I could spend $1k on a game, if I get anything over 100 hours out of it, that’s fing worth it. I go to movies that I walk out on. That’s just 2 hours of my life for $30. Movies cost more not including driving and waiting etc.
Well I feel like 60 € game (which I get for 40 €) should provide me at least 50ish hours of fun wihtout replaying it.
You say a dollar an hour. I say $10 an hour. My point is if you play it for 5 hours or 50 or 5000. And you enjoyed it. That’s all that matters. God can we just stop?
Not in my eyes it’s not. But it’s ok if you value you’re time differently than I do.
I find it hilarious you are calling copyright infringement “theft” yet you admitting that you dont really “buy” a game but you buy a license for a limited time.
Look shill, you cant have it both ways, either you buy and own the product, so pirating is “stealing” or you buying a timed license, in which case obtaining free ace’s is not “Stealing”.
You corporate suits cant have your cake and eat it too.
You really did flush down your brain down the drain.
Yeah man f ck owning the game you bought. They got to protect their ips, like say putting always online drm on a game and denuvo. WE GOTTA PROTECT ARK CONAN MOD, WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS, WHAT IF SOMEONE RIPS THEM AND USES THEM AS MODS IN SOME OTHER GAME.
Also ea will call you when you want to reinstall a game, because you know, WE GOTTA HAVE LIMITED INSTALLS, CUZ YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS SHARING COPIES WITH THEM FRIENDS.
YEAH FCK THE CONSUMER!!!
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And around we go…
Super Denuvo has arrived.
What’s about the Ultra Super Denuvo ’17
PFFFFFFFFT.
CPY will make it its btch.
Denuvo apparently doesn’t know what kind of pirates they’re f*cking with. They have light sabers you know. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30e09414b36bfae87d3e3d5b787ec70c7d7db5c52df5080a0248b8d2858a155f.jpg
They will use the same version of Just Cause 3 which is not cracked yet.
JC3 uses same things as ROTTR
I love how people say “easy to crack” yet only 1 italian group from entire planet manages to crack denuvo games.
Everyone else form 7 or how many bil people on planet cant do ****
RLD stick with the scene rule, what this means?
It’s simple:
Completly remove the sh*t ,or never touch it!
This is why RLD never released anything about Denuvo, coz it’s impossible to remove the whole thing completely.
nothing is impossible
remember that, when they cure everyone from cancer in 20 years
if the world exists in 20 years looking at the economy and climate change i doubt it.
Coz other groups stick with the “Scene Rules” I mean most of them!
Completly remove the DRM or do nothing!
To be fair, most of those 7 billion people aren’t trying…There are surely more that would be able to if they made it their #1 life objective.
That’s the point people are trying but only 1 group possibly only 1 human on entire planet can beat what they made.
I dont think CPY is one person, its a group.
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From which movie is this scene?
Aliens
OH FOR F*CK SAKE YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
From the movie “Alien”!
This is the war…
Denuvo: Remastered Edition
The games will still be cracked. Just watch people.
Why not just make all games like The Witcher 3, and forget about piracy protection?
How about no?
TW3 is only as good as your opinion.
Actually it is one of the best games ever made sooooooooooo
No it’s not.
It’s your opinion.
You happen to be in a very small minority with your “opinion”…so yeah, enjoy that.
I think Fallout 4 is an amazing game. It’s my opinion. Am I forcing it on you? You see how you sound? Let’s think about this one for a minute.
“I think Fallout 4 is an amazing game”
You should not have an opinion. So apparently having a garbage story, removing dialogue choices, skills and have the weapons and enemy types and making a game that can be summed up as going into dungeons and killing the same bulletspongy enemies again and again with the same weapons, but with minor statistics updates and level numbers is “amazing”
Like vice01 said Hush stop making a fool of yourself.
The only think fallout 4 is good for is using milenia’s weapon mods since the entire game is a shootfest.
That makes no sense. By your logic Celine Dion (125 million albums sold) is MUCH MUCH better than, say, Red Hot Chili Peppers (48 million albums sold)
Hush, stop making fool of yourself.
As soon as you accept that Fallout 4 is a better game.
Oh you won’t?
That’s because it’s my opinion over yours regardless of your choice.
Don’t lose any cells thinking on it for too long.
You are objectively wrong and a mental midget. Get fukt gidget.
Oh Internet.
How you never cease to disappoint me. Nice response. Clearly I’m wasting my time if you and your gang are all the same. Good luck with your fantasy world, it’s not nearly as nice as mine.
It has been universally claimed as a fantastic game, winning multiple awards while still being fun to play. So yeah – it’s an amazing game and if you can’t see anything beyond your own feeling about it then stay away from the discussion.
The Witcher 3 has one of the worst combat system in video game history. Along with Resident Evil 7’s gunplay.
The clunky combat controls in The Witcher 2 had put me off from playing after maybe 2-3 hours. Haven’t played TW 3 but judging from a few gameplay videos, it hasn’t changed that much; the movement in RE 7 makes you feel like an asthmatic arthritic 80 year old man – no thanks. I don’t understand how other people are actually able to enjoy playing like this.
Don’t say anything negative about people’s opinions, awards and all. lol
These Disqus, reddit, forum posters know what’s best. Let’s leave them to the glory that is pirating and asserting their opinion on others as fact.
The majority will actually debate you that Mass Effect games are RPGs… so yeah, good luck with that.
Man, the majority thinks fallout 4 is a rpg….its not even a fallout game.
And your opinion is worth more than the majority’s because you post in the commit section of news sites?
If Witcher 3 has the worst combat in the history than how you compare with Skyrim combat system,and Skyrim its considered by a lot of people a very good game.Can you please explain me ?
Yeah, Skyrim/Oblivion combat ‘system’ is atrocious, but the one in Witcher 3 is pretty bad too.
you seem to have very short memory or are freshly started out gamer
how to witcher 3
1. M1
2. Dodge.
3. Roll
4. Igni.
^Repeat and Rinse.
Gothic 1 and 2 are still better.
He probably never heard of them.
not 2.
Bullshit!
its actually not even really that close to the people that know (most dont speak english). Bullshit is your statement of bullshit becuase it is uninformed. I have played them all. I know you havent. Sorry you missed them.
If you say so genius!
Good one!
I personally found the Gothic series not so good but I guess everyone have his own taste!
Well you just have bad taste. There is a reason the modding community is still alive and well for those 2 games (recent DirectX11 engine upgrades are huge and unprecedented by any game community).
See if Witcher 3 is getting the same treatment in 16 years.
I dont know where you got that I have not played them all. Why would I comment otherwise? PS Gothic 1/2 got a dx11 community mod update, name ONE other 2001 game that has gotten this kind of visual overhaul?
Im not talking a texture pack like Morrowind, Im talking a ***king ENGINE REWRITE for dx11. Name one. Ill be waiting. Sorry you only go Witcher 3, even Ocarina of Time beats that and it has no exp and 3 swords. Withcer 3 is recycled garbage cut paste cut paste tweak cut paste cut paste.
What are you talking about?
Any goods used without purchase are lost sales, regardless of format.
You pay for internet, this entails many costs, then you download and play said game, electricity and hardware are more added costs, so a pirate who can afford any of those things is a what? A Thief, a low down dirty scumbag thief.
Again, where can you take stuff that’s not yours and have no repercussions? Sounds like fantasy land.
We say we want demos but they rarely give them.
Well we don’t need them, we can watch other people play.
We can read articles, for free. Only cost is…
Steam gives us refunds finally.
Almost every company is trying hard to keep customers by bending over backwards to make us happy.
And yet people want to defend theft.
The Internet, where logic is pointless.
‘Any goods used without purchase are lost sales’.
False. At least in regard of downloadable games. Less than 50% of people who pirated a game would actually buy it if it couldn’t be pirated. Pirates are mostly casual; they pirate for free and play a game a little, sometimes they don’t even finish it. If said game would cost them money, they wouldn’t have bought it in the first place. So no that much harm in there.
‘Again, where can you take stuff that’s not yours and have not repercussions?’
Muddy terrain, to say the least. Pirates don’t ‘take stuff’. They download a copy. Not everything is black or white.
Just because it can be downloaded. Doesn’t mean it’s not stolen.
And just because it can’t be downloaded. Doesn’t mean you can still steal it.
Argue all you want. Stealing is theft.
Try it in Skyrim. Even the town folk will want to kill you.
I have not paid for electricity in years . . . It is free as part of the economic development of my area . . . I would also steal Internet if I had to pay as much as USians do. 3Gbps for 224NOK where I am.
DRM is a threat to the future, why would I play, watch, read, or listen to something I cannot backup if I really like it? Why should I be beholden to crappy DRM servers to continue enjoying something if I paid for it? Well, I cannot. So I will not pay.
Don’t blame me for your predicament.
You have Internet access and electricity. And yet you won’t pay for games? Okay.
I agree that DRM that leaves a game unplayable is not good.
But let’s attack the company that refuses to remove it or fix it later.
Even modders fix the games, so lets force these companies to do the same.
They have a right to protect their IP.
We have a right to play what we paid for.
Sadly the legal clauses etc screw us…
I agree on that end. But I can’t recall the last time I wanted to play a game that I can’t because the DRM ruined it in however of a way. That’s me though.
Internet access and electricity for a month cost me about 35 euros (10 for Internet, 25 for electricity). Minimum wage here in my country is about 270 euros, give or take.
Still less than your average “AAA” game. I will gladly pay for a game, just not 60 euros, not even 30. 20 euros sounds about right for my “predicament”.
That’s why I always wait for sales and don’t buy games day 1… or even after a year in some cases.
How much do you earn? You keep saying minimum wage like you’re living on it. I completely understand if you’re living in minimum wage and use it as a justification to pirate games.
I actually just finished college, lawschool to be exact, so I’m kind of dependent on my parents (though that’s not to say I don’t notice the bills to pay), but not for long. And I’m studying for a competitive exam at probation service which is coming soon. Have no guarantee of succeding since it’s a free for all regardless if you are a beginner in law proffession or a lawyer/judge with years of service. So imagine my pressure. Even if I enter, the starting wage is about 450 euros per month. That’s the average wage here in Romania. If you have around 800 euros per month you’re considered wealthy.
Most of my money came from having good grades for a scholarship, some oddjobs and even a colaboration contract with a credit firm (for 2 months). I never once asked my parents about anything, despite my mother being technically a lawyer (it’s a stressful job and I’ve seen loads of clients going through financial issues, despite the fact that they seem like regular middle class people).
I may not have a good grasp on how economics work, but I do know making a living in Romania is really tough unless you have I high paying job… or you can just go in other foreign countries. I mean, doctors here earn about 400 euros. Most of our best doctors left the country because of the low wage.
It’s easy to pay 60 dollars for a game when your average Joe earns at least 1000 dollars per month. It’s way harder for someone to pay the same price when he earns way less than that.
Don’t mind him, he’s a salty whiny b*tch that thinks has everyone figured out. A aparut ca ciuperca dupa ploaie si vrea si el sa fie bagat in seama.
“Any goods used without purchase are lost sales, ”
Nope, proof? Sales numbers when denuvo was uncrackable did not change. Pirates pirate cuz they can not because they would have bought them otherwise.
” A Thief, a low down dirty scumbag thief.”
hey man if i could put my hand on a gtx 1080 and a few hours later i would have a copy of it, i would do it, the gtx 1080 is still there, i just have a inferior copy of it.
“Almost every company is trying hard to keep customers by bending over backwards to make us happy.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH
Oh go f yourself corporate shill.
Ok now I understand what kind of “human being” you are. Salty and frustrated as f*ck. Just shut the f*ck up, nobody cares about your opinion.
Not to mention this teacher’s act you’ve got going on, asking a question and answering it yourself not giving the other person the benefit of doubt and satisfaction to shut you up.
What are you? Pathetic that’s what you are! (see what I did there? pathetic)
P.S. Watch me on twitch/youtube play since you’re so fond of it, b*tch.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/BrainFlush
Add me. Then we will see who is salty. 😀
Yeah I bet I can get saltier than you. Don’t smile tho, I want my guard up. lol
Again.
You want to talk smack.
At least do it to my face. 😉
I can definitely do it, to your face. 😉
I’m in Europe right now, wanna meet up and sort it out?
I asked you to add me on Steam, you didn’t.
Now you want me to fly to your country?
Again, think.
Never mind, that requires actually being smart.
How the f*ck should i add you when you’ve got a private account, think about it, if I ignored it given the fact I’m salty means you f*cked up somewhere and I ignored since it’s understandable. You are not flying to my country, I move a lot, it’s a career thing, you wouldn’t understand if you play games all day.
Private account stops you from adding me?
Ok. You sure are quick to quit. Thousands of trades on Steam with or without privacy and never had anyone tell me they won’t add me because of it. LOL
Your Disqus account is private but I still respond to you.
No logic here.
And as to flying, I have my passport, been around for fun, and I have family in major places I can visit anytime. Real family not random last name family BS. So again, you are the limiting factor here.
private means private, no call to action btns. ok let’s stop, this sounds gay af already lol. Too weird bro.
I get it.
Not the first or last.
Take care.
If there were any down votes supported on Disqus, you would get the whole lot for saying that.
They used to have the down vote. I don’t know why they removed it. The fact that they still have the arrow and it’s pointless. Kind of sad. Even more sad is the fact that you think your game is better than my game in my opinion. What’s that say about you as a human being?
My game is better than your game? What the f*ck is that?
my point exaclty.
DRM are useful against thief like you.Protection.
Stop being a SJW
Too hard. Too expensive. They want to push a mediocre product to the market, then add content as dlc and have tons of money. Witcher-3 is an extremely rare case.
Too expensive? So developers would rather pay Denuvo $150,000 than just put that effort and money into their game??
$150k is small.
Even if it was millions which it can be.
Assets for games or the guys who make them cost that much for a year.
So protect your game during initial launch sales then remove it.
Other developers do it.
Why bother optimize or fix mouse accelaration and fov when you can pay 150.000 for denuvo?
Witcher 3 did well because it was a great game. The devs had confidence in it, which is more than I can say for bioware. If your game is good and people feel its worth the price (most AAA games aren’t even worth 20-40 canadian imo), people will buy it insted of pirate it. Witcher 3 proved this, alot of people pirated but alot of the people that did ended up turning around and buying it.
Because there are always good and bad games
Cuz corporate suits think that if they make a always online game with tripple drm, steam ubisoft and denuvo, somehow they get more sales.
Piracy protection is useful against people like you
You can not beat the Pirates!
I don’t care as long as the new version isn’t detrimental to performance.
Well it will be because you can not have it both ways you know the performance will suffer of the new Denuvo be prepared for it!
Denovu needs to die
it’s statisticlly proven that Drm-free games better than copy protected ones
look at witcher 3, look at shadow warrior II
people bought them for FULL price just to appericiate the devs
when your game is arrived half-finished, bloated in DLC and microtransactions
and you dare to waste money on “copy protection” is when i actually wish your game is pirated to oblivion
keep up the good fight CPY, hopefully Denuvo can go out of business
Shadow Warrior 2 was horrible. I don’t know why people ate that garbage up.
Its statistically proven that games that are c*rcle jerked sell more than DRM protected ones.
exactly, DRM is doing nothing but harming it’s own sales
while DRM-free platforms like GOG get tons of love from people even if the games aren’t that great
Of course Mass Effect will use it. They haven’t made a good game since ME 2 and all the talent left Bioware and the higher ups at Bioware and EA KNOW their game sucks. It is a dating game for LBGT Tumblr feminists. They even took the gun off the ship and the new Mako. Game is about safe spaces now.
I bet EA/Bioware just tells them to sacrifice all performance to make it harder to crack to.
Cut the head of the snake and two shall arise.
I wasnt going to buy For honor and ghost recon at release anyway because i will buy dead rising 4 steam release and mass effect andromeda that month then those 2 games later. Also Prey that releases onMay will use it. Thern for the rest of the year we have Sonic Project 2017 and the rumored Far Cry 5 . And possibly red deadi redemption 2 and Get Even if it releases at end of the year. Anyone else find strange that this year most of the big games release on the first 6 motnhs and then on the other 6 only a few remains to be released?
“It will be interesting to see whether this new version of Denuvo will be easily cracked by the scene groups or not.”
Don’t you mean “scene group”?
this sounds really bad… i hope they are not making starfarce v2. now i wish them go to hell.. seriously.
they are not doing that, denuvo has already had many itterations
some of the first games were cracked within weeks, then for a while there were no new games cracked for months, now it’s kinda back where it was, bf1 was last victim
Do not curse denuvo , it is the only reason pc started to get exclusive console ports , without it PC gamers would not had become master race , so I think it’s best for all when new releases take atleast 1 month to crack , this way developers will be happy and so the pirates , I would buy it at release date and bcoz I am not rich I would pirate that game for dlc afterwards if i want offcourse .
i’d rather have something that never gets crack but works without performance hit
Well keep dreaming, you can not have it both ways!
“it is the only reason pc started to get exclusive console ports”
Emm, NO! it actually started few years before Loluvo.
“the only reason pc started to get exclusive console ports”
MFW?
Are you braindamaged? Aside form that making ZERO sense, pc gaming has been constantly growing the last 5 years now.
Wtf is “exclusive console ports”
???i just cannot figure it out, you mean better pc versions? Nah not true. Whinning fixed that and yet games like Arkham knight and dishonored 2 preferred denuvo over a working pc version.
Or you mean games that were console exlusives came to pc thanks to denuvo? Again i dont get it. Cursed mountain was a wii exclusive. Did not sell on wii thats why. Alan wake came on pc with piracy jokes in it. Ryse and dead rising 3 came out before denuvo. EDF 4.1 did not use denuvo.
I honestly cant figure out what you mean.
Trust me, nothing compares to you.
You are a Braindead Idiot!
Sorry but where’s the source? I don’t see any statements from Denuvo.
It’s a prank bro
A bit outdated but still relevant
http://www(dot)escapistmagazine(dot)com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/13715-If-DRM-Doesn-t-Really-Work-Who-Is-It-For
Let’s get cracking…
just curious wats the source of this?
i’m going to mention this because i haven’t found a single word about it on the internet, does anyone else have massive stutter issue with denuvo protected games when you’re playing offline?when i start playing everything is good but after a while it stutters so much to a point where it’s literally unplayable
In other news, this new Call of Duty comes with a COMPLETELY REVAMPED ENGINE, no, not revamped, I mean, COMPLETELY NEW FROM SCRATCH ENGINE. That’s right… w-why it looks so similar to the previous ones? Uh, art style.
There’is a simple solution for gamers to completly get rid of this crap forever.Just boycott games that come with it.If nobody buy them cause of it it will not be long before denuvo will disappear.But of course after seeing what happen with the COD thing i dont have much hope .
Sniper Elite 4 has denuvo too.
#denuvoisnotdeadYET
But sooner or later it will die!
Later it seems
Yes it seems so!
Agreed, i bought it, pirated it, played it, hated it, got a refund even before i got my legit licence.
YAY
“It will be interesting to see whether this new version of Denuvo will be easily cracked by the scene groups or not”
If I were to have to place a bet on it then I’d imagine the so-called “new version of Denuvo” will be cracked within maybe two weeks of its arrival.
it will be cracked wherever CPY feels like working on it and feels enough updates have come out for the game to worth cracking and wherever he likes the game.
This is literally “wherever CPY feels like it.”
It’s a pointless battle and all the more, a pointless war as well. The more they try beefing it up, the more people are likely to take up the obvious challenge to break it down even faster.
Game companies that are so far up their own backside about front loaded sales, need to get with the current times. It’s not only about front loaded, but very much about long tail numbers, because you’re obviously going to sell your game for years and years on end, the numbers will continue to climb on PC since PC doesn’t deal in generations, consoles don’t always get that luxury and end up letting some of the games on their systems die over the years. There are even some games on consoles that just stop selling after the first few weeks and months, even years, but on PC you’ll keep getting sales that go on over time, like Skyrim for example, the consoles had big front loaded sales at first, but after last gen ended, PC climbed over their sales and surpassed both last and current gen systems in the end.
Also their emails leaked recently. Give up, piracy is irrelevant the studio who made ADR1FT closed down, that game was not cracked they cant blame piracy.
They do get cracked. All of the modern consoles have been cracked to go play downloaded games, you just need a specific version to do it. You can’t go online after cracking so its not as easy as PC …. Steam offers 2 hour returns (of game play) so of it was true that Conan was utter crap you would have got your money back.
The crackers that are reading this right now is only thinking “Challenge Accepted” & to retaliate they should crack more Denuvo games
Oh no. Whatever will crackers do? This is the end of piracy. Truly.
i really want to see their excuses when it gets cracked again lmao
I dunno, I think if piracy was really an issue, they’d lower the prices of titles across the board. Who’d pirate something that cost 10$? Its digital, so there is no more inventory, shipping, or production costs, yet everything stays up there in price because it can. supply and demand. If people were hurting the biz they’d take hard steps to discourage it. but they don’t. they just vilify those that don’t shell out the cashola. I’m Don’t own any pirated software myself, cause i don’t want too much really. If there is something I really want to play but can’t…I’ll go watch a lets play. almost as good, and less frustrating. should’ve watch a lets play of nioh,…got to the ship and this guy hits me with two cars.
I feel you man about the ABZu, was very disappointed, the game was very,very short. It has no replay value, unlike the other game that the same developer did for PS3/PS4 (The Journey)
Bought it on 30 or 40% discount and even after that i feel cheated by the devs.
I’ve chosen to wait and play the pirate releases of several games I normally would have paid for. (Hitman, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Mirror’s Edge Catalyst to name a few.)
Denuvo has had an effect on me opposite of their intention.
Thanks for saving me a lot of money you idiot games companies!
Denuvo is nothing more than a software code written into the game structure which does an online server check into the Denuvo server. Denuvo isn’t cracked because there is nothing to crack, it’s actually bypassed.
VIVA la PiRA$Y !!!!
Mass Effect: Andromeda is out and cracked. Syberia 3 had it’s Denvuo cracked in 3 days, smashing the reckord the resident evil crack by 2 days. If Mass Effect: Andromeda and Syberia 3 use the new Denuvo, then Codefusion are losing the battle with pirates as CPY is spanking them right and proper.
I would hate to be a dev/publisher that spends a heafty 6 figure ammount to Denuvo to protect my game from piracy, only to find it cracked in a couple of days and leaked for every freeloader to torrent. Denuvo should refund every dev that payed for Denuvoi and had their game cracked regarless.
With all the crap going on denuvo is going to end up so overworked and bloated that ones RAM would burn out and the fact that SSD’s aren’t being damaged, well that would change in the future if things persist in that manner. Denuvo is fast tracked to become the new StarForce.
Denuvo has underestimated the tenacity and ingenuity of the crackers and is paying the price for it’s arrogance and insolence.
While you are correct that it doesn’t damage SSD’s, my fear is if they keep reworking it over, and over, and over again that in the future Denuvo may end up frying RAM and damaging SSD’s. (This is not a statement of absolute fact. these are my thoughts)
Your thoughts should reflect the known facts lol Why would they reflect anything else in this context? 😛