Earlier this month, we informed you about Playstation Classic using the mobile version of the PCSX emulator. Still, things got even worse today as it was revealed that a number of games that will be included in it are based on their PAL versions which were running at 50hz. Not only that, but even the NTSC versions appear to have framepacing issues, resulting in an underwhelming experience.
To be honest, I find it really ironic that the official Playstation Classic is using an open source emulator and that it is offering inferior versions of its games. In fact, and according to earlier reports, Playstation Classic runs the games worse than the original Playstation console.
What this ultimately means is that the only way to replay these classic Playstation games is via emulators on the PC. Thanks to PCSX and other emulators, gamers can run the games at full 60fps without framepacing issues. Players can also increase the internal resolution if they choose to, or use some hardware filtering in order to smooth the visuals (though we know that some gamers do not like filtering as it brings extra blurriness).
Moreover, gamers have access to more titles on the PC via the available emulators. Playstation Classic comes with 20 pre-loaded games and from what we know so far, gamers won’t be able to use their original CDs to play the titles they already own. On the PC, however, gamers can use the old and original CDs in order to play the games they already own.
So yeah, if you want to play the classic Playstation games you are better off using a Playstation emulator on your PC than buying this new “classic” console… unless of course you prefer an inferior experience!
John is the founder and Editor in Chief at DSOGaming. He is a PC gaming fan and highly supports the modding and indie communities. Before creating DSOGaming, John worked on numerous gaming websites. While he is a die-hard PC gamer, his gaming roots can be found on consoles. John loved – and still does – the 16-bit consoles, and considers SNES to be one of the best consoles. Still, the PC platform won him over consoles. That was mainly due to 3DFX and its iconic dedicated 3D accelerator graphics card, Voodoo 2. John has also written a higher degree thesis on the “The Evolution of PC graphics cards.”
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I think that emulators and games for end of life consoles should be left alone for the community to do whatever they want.
Their consoles suck (the end of life ones), why would I play on PS2 rather than emulate a game, or nes game.
Better resolution and the option to pick which controller I want. These “new” consoles are a joke.
No fiddling around with settings to get a specific PS2 game to run: that’d be one reason.
Then download one already fiddled.
That sounds dirty.
Can be anything you want baby….. It is PC, it is freedom.
I can only handle a little dirt.
Very true. Although I much prefer emulation for better quality its a pain getting them all to work properly. I never was able to get rid of the lines on the screen in Ace Combat 4. Even still I wouldn’t bother with a PS2 nowadays.
For me- and this is just personal, naturally- I like the whole process. From looking through the library of games on the shelf to inserting each disc to even the sound of the console, all of that is part of playing a game, to me.
Maybe it’s just the old guy in me..
I hear ya. I wish I had kept all my old consoles.
How can you buy consoles and games that are not sold anymore?
This. Even if you wanted to buy old games second hand from ebay, most of them cost 100+ dollars/euros, of which none goes to the developer/publisher.
Flawless logic. I’d wager that there is a pretty small demographic of people who actually buy modern consoles for the sole purpose of playing classic games emulated on them. They’re going to emulate them so that they run properly on modern displays or they are going to play them on original hardware. The reason why devices like the NES and the SNES classic sold so well was because they have great libraries, are licensed hardware, and are convenient, So I highly doubt that the emulation of games on end of life consoles is making a noticeable impact on sales.
Anyone who wants a Playstation classic should just get a Raspberry Pi 3. You can fit 200+
PS1 games on a 128GB microsd. They’re emulated perfectly.
The Pi 3 does a pretty shotty job of running most PSX games also…so it’s not really much of a win there.
I have a pi 3B+ overclocked and it often still isn’t enough to run games at full speed.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. The Pi 3 emulates PS1 games perfectly. It has a major problem with with most N64 games, PSP, and Dreamcast games. It doesn’t emulate PS2 or Gamecube at all.
If you’re having a problem running PS1 on the RPI the problem is yours not the RPI’s. You’re running the games at too high a resolution. At the PS1’s native resolutions(320×240 ~ 640×480) they all run at full speed.
Sure thing buddy.
It’s exceptionally well documented that the Pi 3 is only borderline capable of running PSX games well.
Perhaps you should raise your standards instead of assuming everyone online is an idiot but you.
I’ve been building these things for years. I think I would have noticed if everything was running flawlessly. There are glitches, errors, speed drops, and many games don’t run at all (Metal Gear Solid for one is a huge mess on any emulator that runs on the system). Several emulators can’t even run on the things as it isn’t fast enough.
That’s just terrible advice, the pi3 is barely capable of running those games, some aren’t even playable at all. You want a custom ps classic, it’s called a pc with a ps1 emulator and isos with 1-2 usb-to-ps controller convertors with 1-2 ps controllers.
You kinda missed the whole point of the Playstation Classic. It’s not really about playing those games. Most people who buy it will barely touch the games. It’s mostly a neat collector’s item that’s cool to have on a shelf.
So buying this thing to play the games that come loaded is not a valid use case? That’s essentially what you’re arguing. Do I even need to explain why that’s r*tarded?
Did I say it’s not a valid use case ? Because I don’t see where I said that. If you want A PS classic just to play those 20 old @ss games that haven’t really aged very well and aren’t that fun anymore, then obviously you’re better off not getting it. But for most people it’s about the hardware and the nostalgia.
When you say the point of this thing is to be a dust magnet, you’re saying the point is not to play the games. You’re dismissing John’s perfectly valid criticism by (essentially) saying “no no no, that’s not what it’s meant for.” Then why the f*ck did Sony bother to include the games at all?
I mean, that’s like saying that because someone points out that the 458 isn’t meant to be a grocery getter that they’re saying you can’t get groceries in it, even though it has a trunk.
If the article were about use case to begin with, than maybe you’d have a point. But John criticised key aspects of the emulator implementation, and this guy dismissed those because apparently playing these games is a secondary use case for most customers. It was a stupid rebuttal.
Who do you determine “most customers” to be? Everyone who could potentially buy one? Or the target audience?
Remember that bizzysgs is the Sony equivalent to Sp4ctr0 Spencer so it’s his mission in life to defend his chosen corporate overlord.
At this point I’ll 3D print a shell of a PS Classic..
LOL
Unless they’re legally forced to, why the hell would any of these companies use PAL versions of games when they run at 50hz? Even then, make a separate SKU for the Eurof*gs.
Even as someone who likes the playstation brand i can say sony dropped the ball hard with that mini console, a list with many games that were not good to begin with and aged horribly and the execution is amateurish using pal 50 hz and bad framepacing.
They should had made a 30 games list with true classics i dont care about licensing issue, if you have licensing issue dont make a mini console and dare call it ps1 classic.
And about the performance?
Even phones from 2012 run ps1 emulated games perfectly. Wtf Sony?!
Use filters.
And PSX doesn’t? I remember seeing something like it. But it has been some time since last I used it.
Anyone who wants a Playstation classic should just get a Raspberry Pi 3. You can fit 200+ PS1 games on a 128GB microsd. They’re emulated perfectly.
I use Retroarch + Beetle PSX HW. Night and day difference.
HD, no ugly polygon warping, better performance (even 60fps hacks), fast loading, use any wireless controller.
PS Classic is a joke.
examples?
Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by DSOGaming.
seriously guys?
Yeah it is to prevent spam. You’d be surprised at the number of unrelated spam posts we get. Sorry man.
Makes you wonder why they going after roms.
You still trying to assign something to Sony that Nintendo’s actually guilty of doing?
is it REALLY just nintendo?
You’ve been making the claim; you tell me.
Emulation of Playstation one is still not where it would need to be to play through a whole game. I get way to many crashes.
really? i have never had a single crash on my ps1 emulator, and I’ve been using ps1 emulators since they were first released. I recently replayed Resident Evil Survivor and Silent Hill on my ps1 emulators, not a single problem.
Use Mednafen, it reproduces the ps1 perfectly, same resolution as a ps1 and runs the game exactly like it would be on a real ps1, all other ps1 emulators “improve” on ps1, so they lack accuracy. With Mednafen, I was able to play Resident Evil 1.5 exactly like it would have been on a ps1 (honestly will never use another ps1 emu, Mednafen is THE ps1 accurate emulator.)
Xebra is WAY better than Mednafen.
This is the same for all nes-snes-atari-retro consoles.
Full glory?
Not sure you know what that means…
lol
Finally some common sense. Anyone paying for that needs their head checked..
I always felt like the PC was the best Playstation ever. This is proof.
>odroid xu4+lakka
Did you just have a stroke there?
Back when your imagination was the only RTX around.
Or you can buy the game legally on PSN?
You can also play your original PS discs using an emulator and don’t have to buy a PS3/PS4/Vita/PSP.
Want a hardware tear down want to know what CPU is in this thing. Probably some 1.2ghz arm dual core CPU at this point.
meh, i dont like the layer, its like someone made a pixelated version of the noise effect.
You can change the interface…
You can get emulators on your phone ffs
Also there is an emulator in works that will serve as a “console for classic dos games”.
This ‘article’ is SO bad. You’re saying that the PS Classic, which runs PCSX-reARMed, runs Playstation games terribly and the best option for you is to RUN EMULATORS on PC!! The only thing you’re doing is effectively going from 1 emulator to the next. That’s all there is to it. I would understand if Sony had made a PS1 Classic that had it’s own emulator and ran worse than current PC emulators. Then you would have a point. But it’s not. This article is like “hey guys, mednafen sucks, use epsxe, it’s better!”. Like yeah no sh- sherlock.
That’s not what I’d call full glory, though.
The way it ran originally. Anything beyond that is beyond the scope of the game’s intended glory… which would kinda be MORE than “full” glory.
Beyond it’s glory then?
Right.
A car in its full glory, for example, would be its factory mint condition. Going beyond that- updating the suspension/radio, dropping a new engine/transmission in- is more like a resto-mod(a little different). Nothing wrong with it- and I honestly love the ingenuity that’s on display in cases like that- but it’s not the way it left the assembly line.
To note: I don’t actually mind the improvements, and would prefer the kinks wrinkled out. I just don’t think “full glory” is the phrase to use when referring to something modified- and improved upon- from its original form.
Except the tinkering improves the factory faults not addressed by the manufacturers at the time which the competition had already fixed.
Which is lovely, and not a problem, but also not full glory.