We recently had the pleasure of speaking with Flying Wild Hog about Shadow Warrior and its Road Hog Engine. The development team is currently working on the PS4 version of Shadow Warrior and we couldn’t help but ask them about that specific version. After all, there were some performance issues with the PC version of Shadow Warrior, therefore we wanted to know whether the PS4 development would help bring various optimizations to the PC version as well.
According to Krzysztof Narkowicz, lead engine programmer at Flying Wild Hog, the company targets 1080p/60fps on the PS4. In addition, the PC version will sport visuals equal to PC ultra settings (with SSAO and Mirrors enabled).
Here is what Krzysztof had to say when we asked him about the PS4 version, and whether future games would look better than Shadow Warrior:
“Hardware is pretty fast – our target is 1080p/60fps with ultra PC settings (SSAO and mirrors enabled). As usually for next game the graphic artists and designers will create bigger and more spectacular levels, request better physics effects etc. So – yes, our future games will look better and have better physics. Next-gens also give us an extra computing power. You should expect new features like more sophisticated lighting using PBR (Physically Based Rendering), better dynamic reflections and volumetric effects.”
PC gamers, rest assured that Flying Wild Hog did not forget you. We’ve discussed with Flying Wild Hog about the CPU issues we’ve encountered with Shadow Warrior, and the team revealed some juicy information that will please most of you.
First and foremost, a new build of Shadow Warrior will be released that will be 64-bit only. This build is said to perform considerably better than its 32-bit counterpart.
Moreover, Flying Wild Hog has optimized serial code paths and replaced DX9 with DX11, which has lower CPU overhead. As the company noted, the game currently scales much better and most of the time uses all available cores.
In short, expect to see Shadow Warrior performing better in the very near future. It’s still unknown when the new build will be released, but we’ll be sure to keep you posted.
Enjoy, and stay tuned for our interview!
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When hard reset came out, everyone was amazed by its graphics and optimization.
Shadow warrior run like crap and looked pretty bad.
Gameplay aside shadow warrior is very unoptimized and ugly. Jaggies everyhwere, unimpressive lighting and the mirror effect destroyed perfomance.
I find it laughable that they say this game will run on ps4 at 1080p 60 fps, not because ps4 can do it, ofcourse it can and pcs should easilly do it, but because the game is pretty unoptimized and it shouldnt be.
Ps4 runs outlast maxed out at 60 fps, why wouldnt it? The game is pretty optimized, But shadow warrior? Lets say its one of those games that are low budget and dont really achieve much from graphics, kinda like homefront on consoles.
Now they say ps4 should run this at 1080p 60 fps. The keyword is targeting here not achieving. This and the bugs shadow warrior had on release confirm my suspucions that the game was released unfinished. After alot of patches people say things have improved alot, i got it on a steam sales for a low price, its sad it lacks polish and optimization because its a great game. I hope the x64 dx11 update will fix all this.
Shadow warrior should have been one of those games that everyone would run easilly and focus on gameplay and 60 fps first and graphics second, but it was sadly pretty unoptimized, it always bugged me.
In related news the order will be 1920x800p with 4xmssa, 30 fps with black bars to make it more “cinematic” spin it as you wish but from black bars letterbox and 30 fps, id rather have a ugly game at 60 fps with proper aspect ratio, you can shove that “cinematic” crap back from the PR marketing they came from, i hope next gen is about gameplay not “cinematic” bullcrap all over again.
Did you see how the Order looked? The realtime graphics looks literally CG. I will agree that next-gen should be about gameplay but seriously, the Order looks insane!!!!!
I think its gears of war all over again.
The characters look good, but the enviroments need work, the walls they took cover lack shadows and there were blurry textures on the boxes.
So i am not impressed.
The game seems to play like gears of war but with as many scripted cinematic gameplay as cod, quicktime events and constant interuption for that movie feel that games go latelly.
To me, 60 fps 1080p> letterbox with 30 fps.
I just cant stomach black bars and 30 fps and hardly any other pc gamer can.
I believe the graphics you saw on the order will be standard on multiplats in 2 years. Like i said its mostly trickery, the characters look good but the enviroment not so much. Like gears of war back in 2005.
The game can actually be rendered in 1080p. Only reason for the letterbox is the devs creative vision for the game. I suspected that they achieved this level of fidelity due to the small fov. It is the best looking game I’ve seen though so I will give credit where it’s due.
ok, I agree i tought in the trailer texture looked pretty good! In my opinion Id rather see game like the order im tired to see polygonal forms all the time. Its annoying me. The order look almost like real life.
Sarcasm?
Lol no! The order look good!
When I saw your first post, it just said “ok”. So I thought it was sarcasm but sorry for making such an assumption.
No worries! Really the last game i bought for last gen xb360 was red dead redeption undead nightmare, 3 years ago. I love zombie games…But The texture looked soooo ugly i couldnt play it that much without being disgusted( console were so underpowerfull vs pc at that time). I mean I personally feel that console has to improve alot before im getting back into it. Ps4 now for the next 2-3 years will be awesome for is power.I dont even have one but games are well Worth a shot. I feel that all the previous generation games were the same bs…sorry 🙂 At least with the order now we might see the graphical step i want in console for the last 5 years.
No, idiot. The letterbox is there because any pixel that has to be rendered cuts down on shader effects they can apply to the image. The letterbox format is a way to run this game at a lower resolution to get more performance out of the PS4. How can you understand that FOV plays a role in performance (most noobs don’t even know what FOV is) but deny that the aspect ratio is a performance trick?
well said, if half the stupid sonytards understood this rather thinking its “cinematic”
Keep your panties on. Also, the difference between 1920X800 and 1920X1080 is so small that it doesn’t seem plausible that the game is 1920X800 because of performance issues.
man i just said these things you said without reading your post :)) what are the odds ?
yeah? Wow We must be twins.
About the Order 1886!
Yeah I cant belive how people can be so frikking crazy about it, you should see all the milion coments from the idiots playstation fanboys over n4g. It’s f*ckn crazy.
I look and I look at the pics/vids and I am NOT impressed at all.
I would have hoped for true nextgen power but we who are not blind stoopid fanboys sees it for what it really is.
We know the hardware in the PS4 is crap and I have a PS3 and for what I have seen it’s just only slightly better, just higher res and some more effects with nicer looking textures thats all, nothing more.
Just look att the pic comparing MG Solid 5 ps3 vs ps4, just a little cleaner and better frames.
WTF, it’s just like a Pc game say mid vs high, so yeah thats nextgen power. F*ckn crap thats just what it is and 8 years newer hardware to boot, what a F*CKN disgrace mate.
The PS4’s hardware isn’t all that crap. It’s more powerful than a mid-range gaming PC, so hardware isn’t much of a drawback here. The reason you’re not noticing any difference in games is because these games haven’t taken the advantage of the extra horsepower yet. It takes time (think at least 5 years or so) for developers to understand the platform at the lowest level before they can fully utilize it.
Having said that, I’m not interested in The Order not because it has any particular flaws as a game as such, but because it’s not on PC. That and that alone. Exclusivity is a shitty thing.
You wont believe the morons i argue with at gaminbolt now, i only said the gamepaly is very generic and it could have better wepons like resistance instaed of being a gears of war clone with qtes and those sony lickers are crazy to defend it.
Since when consoles games are such graphics Wh-ores?
Yeah it’s crazy it’s like they are some f*kn crack addict defending it for their lives.
And allways when it comes up to pc vs console graphics we are the superior master bla bla race that only play graphics demos as thats what we only care about. But the funny thing is when some new shiny sh*t console comes out the ONLY thing they talk about is naah my X console is better then your Y console, in this gen its ps4 vs xbone.
F*kn retards!
yeah apparently with killzone shadowfail and the order they are the the graphics who-res now.
Exactly and I cant stop laughing when all the idiots go nuts for eaiter The Order and Infamous secons son. And we have been playing with graphics like that since what ? .. 2007 when Crysis did come out.
These bastards are so f*ckn dumb..LOL!
Damn you guys are in denial. There is no PC game that is graphically comparable to the Order with mid-high settings.
CG my arse. Proper CG is many, many times more complex, they clearly used trick to make it look that way and used cheap effects.
yeah they also used black bars cuz its “movie feel” and not due to the aspect ration and having smaller image so people wont see the jaggies.
Okay it might not be perfect CG but it gives us a nice taste of how games will look in the near future.
You only need to look at NVIDIA/AMD tech demos for that. PC already has that level of fidelity, it’s nothing new, just look at the New Dawn demo and face works demo. Crysis 1 from 2007 did a full volumetric sky, no game has done it since though ARMA 3 has volumetric clouds
When did I say that PCs can’t do that? Anyway, the difference is that the Order was gameplay. You can’t really just compare it to a tech demo because the graphics are always dumbed down in gameplay.
It’s a target tech demo, that’s what they’re hoping to achieve, doesn’t mean they will. Much like the PS3 killzone target render.
Well, the Order has kinda achieved it. Don’t get me wrong, any midrange PC can probably handle the Order and look just as good. I’m not praising the Order’s graphics because it’s a console game. I’m just praising it for what the devs achieved in the graphics department.
Current SW PS4 build runs 1080p/60fps/maxed settings for like 95% of game. There are currently only 2-3 places in game, where during fights framerate drops below 60fps. So it’s not a marketing trick.
We have rewritten half of engine and upcoming PC update should fix optimization issues. Give it a try when it comes out.
BTW Homefront had a order of magnitude larger budget than us.
it is just suprising because i was amazed at how well hard reset run.
I was comparing it with homefront because its a game that looked bad because they didnt bother with graphics, not related to the budget, i expect shadow warrior to run well for being a game that focuses on framerate rather graphics.
Anyway great game, hope you make a sequel with more jokes and varied level design, really like the skills and the secret areas and how it wasnt a scripted shooter.
How are the pc sales doing? The reason i am asking is because there was very little marketing there was 2 trailers or so, most people i know dont even know this game exists and know sony will help with the marketing and it will get more attention.
I just watched gameplay from The Order and I must say, it is probably the best looking game I’ve seen so far. It’s literally looks like real-time CG.
Would you mind linking? I’d like to see that as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5J_uZrwEL8
Here this is it
Playing a game with black bars? Stupid. It’s not CG quality, they clearly reduced the CG quality to fit the game graphics. the usual marketing crap, games must look like movies, OMG.
It looks like a tight hide and shoot game, so they can cram more detail in.
funny thing is it works for most consoletards they actually believe the blck bars are there to make it cinematic.
I know, it’s pathetic, they can trick console users into anything now days.Playing a game with black bars just for a “Cinematic” experience is just laughable it really is.
How do i explain to them why the black bars are there?
Seriously how should i put it?
Just leave them to it, let them have their Hollywood game cinematic experience and let it stay PS4 only.
They are using black bars for their artistic vision. This game looks interesting to me. I might give it a go when I get myself a PS4.
I posted the link but it is awaiting moderation. But if you go on youtube, just type in “order 1866 gameplay” and watch the first video you see.
i saw that too, 3D models in the order were awesome, detailed characters and nice physics and great artistic design too, but enviorments wasn’t that good in terms of graphics and the worst part was the gameplay. a simple linear 3rd person shooter, weaker than any other shooter games i can remember these past years and lots of lots of QTEs. it was more like a basicer and more corridor based version of gears of war married to beyond/heavy rain/walking dead/etc… overall “the order 1866” is more like “ryse” on X1,that means nice graphics and $hitty gameplay.
BTW: it’s wasn’t the best looking game i saw but it looked good.
Yep the gameplay doesn’t look that appealing. I’m curious to know which game you consider to look better than this though.
The Order isn’t out yet so it’s my opinion and judging by the videos it could be faulty but i guess in terms of tech and technical graphics Crysis 3 is still the king after that we have Metro LL & BF4 and the jaw dropping one i saw that was better than the order in any level was the Witcher 3.
but besides that: what makes me buy a new-gen console ? graphics ? i guess not because i seen better and i will see even better than these in next year or two. Gameplay ? i prefer to not do games anymore if they all want to go to this path. what path ? same generic and linear gameplay we saw these past and upcoming years with shinier graphics and lots of cinematics they force you to watch, actually these days they force you to watch games instead of playing/experiencing them. if i want to watch, i can watch movies with better scenarios. so why not new consoles ? because they marketing around these things that i hate, and they’re making these games that i hate. i can go to youtube and watch a whole game without paying a penny for it and without feeling lost because nothing in these games makes me want to experience them, actually nothing is in them to experience or intract to.
sorry for my crappy english
I’m honestly not too enthusiastic about the gameplay ( at least not at this point) but I just think it looks amazing for a console game.
Ooh, what is this? Super-puper clothe simulation?
But overall it looks good, I agree. But you need to remeber that it is just linear shooter with, as I saw AI. Good work of designers, good animation, but nothing that cood blow your mind.
And now look here:
http://vk.com/doc7496089_271796642?hash=0dca3114455f990c9c&dl=73aeb757a30a2a405f
Targeted 1080p 60fps = ended up 900p 30fps 😀 it just a marketing trick and thats it.
Didn’t they always target 1080p 30fps. Besides, the game is 1920X800 30fps. It could have been 1080p but they letterboxed it to fall in line with their game’s design.
what 800p 30fps ? i’m talking about “Shadow Warrior” dude (related to topic), that was The Order faith that is undecided to choose 1080p lower AA or 800p 4xAA
My bad. I was getting confused.
Ay what a surprise, we’re playing a beta :).
While waiting for someone to do his job as a quality example will be for PS4 , i bought a new processor
And you know what I do not care anymore, I have a new processor 4/8 thread, who does care about poor code and mirrors :D.
Game was very fun , but this is hurt , PC gamers is people second-hand…
yeah dude, just like what they did with diablo 3
I enjoyed both Hard Reset and Shadow Warrior like crazy, but both games have problems with being gpu-bound all the time. DX11 and 64-bit is nice, but i really want them to adopt Mantle sometime in the future