Ah, the delay of GTA V PC has sparked lots of discussions about it. And contrary to what most people believed, Rockstar went ahead and officially explained why the PC version has been delayed. According to the company, this particular version needs more development time in order to be amazing and polished as possible. Yeap, you read that right: Rockstar is talking about optimizations, and that’s obviously a good thing.
As Rockstar claimed:
“We’re glad to see so many of you are excited for the upcoming release of the new versions of GTAV and we look forward to sharing more details with you soon. We are also incredibly excited to be bringing GTAV to the PC, but the game requires a little more development time in order to ensure that it is as amazing and polished as possible.”
For what is worth, Rockstar’s game testers have been testing the PC version on Steam yesterday and today. It appears that every week these two game testers are testing the PC version, so hopefully more of them will get to test it once the current-gen console versions are out.
GTA V is coming to the PC January 2015.
Enjoy and stay tuned for more!
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BS! full of C***
Thanks Rockstar! I’ll gladly wait another couple of months for a more polished and optimized game experience… On the other hand, now January can’t come soon enough…
Bullsh*t . But then again , their fanboys will eat everything they’ll feed them . “Thank You Rockstar” . Idiots .
Yeah all dumb*CKS over here that supports them. GO TO HELL!!
They think we’re stupid, bro. Like we can’t see what they’re really doing, which is milking the console market for the Holiday season and trying to collect every penny they can before finally releasing it on PC.
It’s a disgusting business practice and should never be supported. I hope people pirate the shit out of this game.
“It’s a disgusting business practice and should never be supported. I hope people pirate the shit out of this game.”
— Oh you mean just like piracy is a disgusting consumer practice? Amazing how you disprove their practices yet support pirating the game. Contradict much?
Pushing the pc version back years is the most disqusting thing of all.
And so is piracy, which is what I’ve been saying. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Any other dev would release the fcking pc version in 2013, now they gonna release it in 2015 and will ask 60 bucks for it.
Come on. I can spot 4 things wrong here just at first glance.
That doesn’t justify piracy and nothing else does either. If people aren’t happy with such business practices, they are free to vote with their wallets. But it does not give them the right to steal.
No but at some point their pirated copy doesnt really hold any weight, its just morally wrong, but so is rockstar.
Sure it holds weight, because it is illegal. Technically Rockstar delaying a game isn’t “illegal”, but piracy is. Moreover, it’s impossible to condemn one “morally wrong” action and simultaneously praise another; that would be hypocrisy.
I dont give a damn about the law the law is not moral right or wrong its just the law, in africa its the law to stone to death women who got raped.
If you don’t give a damn about a country’s laws then you can do two things:
1. Leave the country,
2. Campaign for revision of such laws through legal channels without resorting to crime.
Furthermore, I’ve stated elsewhere that morality hinges on adherence to laws. I can get into details if you want me to. It’s easy to thump your chest and play anarchist just for free sh*t; but unfortunately that’s not how the legal system works in society, so you have to get used to it because you are being protected by the laws as well.
And regarding stoning in Africa, you’re probably referring to Sharia law, which isn’t (constitutional) law by any means but pure religious dogmatism, so your example is null and void.
I am not in USA and in my country and yours no one cars about piracy.
I dont care what laws think, is piracy immoral? yes. As well as a bazillion of things that keep hapening is piracy illegal? Yes as well as a bazilion things that keep happen especially in poor countries.
If you prioritize piracy of all the wrong and illegal things going on in those countries, then you are an unjust corperate slave.
Please tell me how great things are in your country…lets not kid around, its 30 years behind other countries so why you act all progressive in the internet?
“I am not in USA and in my country and yours no one cars about piracy.”
— I didn’t assume you were from the USA to begin with. My statement holds wherever there are laws prohibiting piracy, whether it’s a poor country or not. Furthermore, no one caring about piracy doesn’t mean piracy is automatically legal. The fact that no one cares proves how oblivious they are.
“If you prioritize piracy of all the wrong and illegal things going on in
those countries, then you are an unjust corperate slave.”
— Where did I “prioritize” piracy above another crime? I said piracy itself is a crime, just like any other crime. Where do you find me “prioritizing”?
“Please tell me how great things are in your country…lets not kid
around, its 30 years behind other countries so why you act all
progressive in the internet?”
— I’m pretty sure you realize that stealing in a first-world country is just as wrong as stealing in a third-world country, right? Because they are both stealing. Or are you just trying to avoid coming up with proper responses and trying to shift the discussion to another topic?
Please tell me how much people care about piracy in your country…..
Why are you lobbying game piracy so much in the internet shouldnt you be more concerned with your problems in real life in your country?
” I’m pretty sure you realize that stealing in a first-world country is just as wrong as stealing in a third-world country,”
YOU COULD HAVE FOOLED ME!!!!
Eg The USA stealing bananas from poor countries and bombing them to stop an uprising.
“Why are you lobbying game piracy so much in the internet shouldnt you be more concerned with your problems in real life in your country?”
— I am actually, thanks for asking. Also, piracy is a “real life” problem too, not an imaginary one.
“The USA stealing bananas from poor countries and bombing them to stop an uprising.”
— I’m not quite sure about what you’re referring to here. Please provide some source which contains information about something like this so I can be informed about it.
The greatest video game developer in the world is not “stupid.” If you didn’t like them, you would have NO interest in Grand Theft Auto.
Learn to quote properly and grasp what was actually said.
“The greatest video game developer in the world”
wut ?
“fanboys”
aha
When every dev releases on pc day 1 or a week later, yet rockstar cant do it, then yeah they are fcking stupid.
If after 2 years of working on the game you need to delay it again in last min, something is REALLY wrong rockstar. Last min delays in a very longgggg developed game dont talk good about you. Gta 4 all over again? Come on R. Say it. Its cuz console sales… dont be so fool. At least say it.
better than doing it in 9 monthes like GTA IV
No, no, no. The situation with GTA IV and past GTA’s that came to PC does NOT apply here.
The past GTA PC titles were direct console ports. They didn’t even exist until AFTER the PS3/360 versions had been released. The 8 to 9 month stretches between console and PC release were due to the porting process, which was crude, and forced with no optimization whatsoever. Hence why GTA IV and rest ran terribly on PC.
On the other hand, GTA V, began development far before the PS3/360 versions were released and was developed independently and in parallel with the console versions, so it’s not a port. Just like Max Payne 3 on PC was not a port. Rockstar has had PLENTY of time (years) to develop the PC version of GTA V and their dev logs show the game virtually complete as early as August of 2013 and fully completed in January 2014 (according to credible sources at GTAForums).
So, no, this latest delay has nothing to do with optimization or “extra polish” or anything else apart from shady business practices.
“GTA V, began development far before the PS3/360 versions were released”
I am really looking for the logs showing this any links?
https://googledrive.com/host/0B-JdId1SslCJNEIweDFobGl2MzA/builds.xml
CTRL + F
search for “PC” without quote marks
scroll through, look at the dates.
Really?! Hmmmm…..
Why not at least give them that 2 months , its a video game after all… why so mad. Better give them those two months than release november 18th with broken SLI/Crossfire and memory leaks. People would cry either way, so i feel its better to cry about delay than broken half-assed port that will never get fixed. PC and consoles are not really working the same as many claim, the way they use memory is lot different. But if you would love next WatchDogs , then ok.
Ports getting delayed can only mean good , unless this is all some PR garbage. But what do you got to lose? Nothing , indeed…
Do you seriously believe that it was delayed for “optimization” .? Why Witcher 3 is not delayed for PC for “optimization” . We both know the answer .
I sure don’t believe so. They are probably trying to avoid another Microsoft+Rise of Tomb Raider fiasco. They must’ve been preparing for a regular timed-exclusive announcement but seeing the intense backlash of the Rise of tomb Raiser, they chose to use the good old “optimization” excuse.
It’s strange to see people saying that the differences between the PC and consoles caused this delay conundrum but at the same time we see Sony and MS boasting how easy and fast it is for PC devs to port their PC games to the PS4 and XB1. How is that it will only take between mere hours to just a couple of days for devs to port PC games to next gen consoles but it’ll take months for the reverse process?
I believe M$ and/or $ony went to R* HQ with bags of money and said:
“Delay it for PC so it won’t look better than our consoles”
Yes, and i lose nothing if it ends up not being true. I’ll just move on, its a damn video game ffs. Plus there are tons of great games coming in between GTAV release and now.
No one loses anything but it wasn’t delayed for “optimization” , that’s all what I’m saying . What I meant is , expecting anything good from these guys will lead you to a big disappointment on PC launch . That said , it is consumers’ right to get a finished product when he pays for it . Releasing broken products are scam . Those who don’t speak for their rights , are making things worse because that’s the reason why devs always get away with this sh*t .
I won’t be surprised if it is just another unoptimized mess . How many times we have seen PC version of different games in action or devs saying that ‘PC is lead platform’ but in the end the game always turns out to be buggy and unoptimized mess .
Max Payne 3 was the only game from Rockstar (in ages) that was optimized well and even that wasn’t a PC game despite first two games being released as PC exclusives by Remedy . And it was also delayed and build for consoles primarily .
i don’t think those that cares about it lose anything either.(not talking about fanatics) since in the end everyone here spend the time to comment once at least anyway. some just like to play on their PC more and things like these might encourage other developers to do delay on PC or ignore it completely. if you are fine with it good for you.
its because i believe this delay is for the good, i just don’t want some BS port like GTA 4 was. i am anxious to play it as well
some of us don’t believe that but we gladly hope we are wrong(anything is possible) but the negative effects of it still remains
They had years…literally.
I believe in R*…Steam dayONE!
What you mean to say Rock$tar is that the console versions need optimising more and you put more time into them and delayed the PC version for it. Typical PR talk, I mean if you’re that excited for the PC version, why didn’t you release it 6 months after the PS3/Xbox version like the others?
Remember GTA Vice City, they made a “shiny” DX9 engine for it on the PC and R* released it 7 months after the console version, yet it takes them 14 months for the PC version now. Where are the PC requirements? Where is all these excitement for the PC version when you haven’t shown a single shot or gameplay version of it, zero news of the PC version for 10 months.
ya but gta iv was a trash port in every single way shape or form, competely unplayebale at points.
No it wasnt, it ran perfectly fine on lower settings while still looking and running better than the console version.
thats true, gta iv on consoles run on medim to low.
haha what a lie. if on low you wanted to play it then ur a scrub. fact is, it was a terrible port and most people will agree with that statement. u must be that one lucky mofo in which the game ran perfect.
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There is no doubt the game ran like crap at higher settings. No one is denying that. Your claim is that the game was “completely unplayable” and that is completely FALSE.
So the only lie here, is from you.
True GTA IV on default settings was running extremly good and also looking very good with Sweet FX 90 FPS+
that was by rockstar torronto ported in a few months.
meh, they just want to maximize christmas sales on consoles.
What’s up with PC douchebags lately? We’re better than this. We’re no strangers to waiting – just relax.
What a happy coincidence that PC needed to be delayed. now you can accidentally maximize profit. oh wait…you could still do that if you treated PC gamers right but that is risky so why take that path huh? meanwhile you probably got some extra money from MS and Sony or at least made your bond stronger. “good” for you. why would a PC gamer respect a company like R* that doesn’t want ro risk losing a penny for us? anyone that thinks having GTA on PC with such delays is better than not having it is probably wrong. sure one can’t be sure but chances are it always hurts PC industry.
Why would a real console gamer respect a company like R* that encourage companies like Microsoft and Sony to not spend their money on improving their consoles and saving it for buying IPs and etc
the things money do to companies…meanwhile at Larian developers are talking about not having a Kickstarter for their new game cause there might be other companies that need people’s money more than them. (even if they have one later i don’t blame them but at least they are showing good intentions even if it is advertising as well, but who knows how they might act if one day they get as rich as R*)
It’s got nothing to do with that. The PC version needs much less money to make and makes more money per copy then the console version. Pirating on the PC is just an excuse, it just doesn’t wash any more, EA make a sh*t load of money from the PC for the likes of Sims and sports games, way more than the those exclusive console games.
We’re also told constantly that single player is dead, these sort of games don’t sell any more, yet Skyrim destroys that peddled myth time and time again. Skyrim sold 3.5 million copies in 2 days, pure single player only game, it’s just more lies from devs and publishers.
i know piracy is an excuse which is why i said they don’t want to lose a penny for us. (cause they won’t lose that much) and the “risky path” was me being sarcastic to some extent. nevertheless i agree and even if they do lose a lot it’s their own fault really.
They don’t lose anything because they assume every copy pirated is a sale when it’s not and that’s where they get their stupid estimations from. If the PC version didn’t sell or make money, they wouldn’t make another, it’s that simple but they do.
of course they have already made their money so they don’t care but if it doesn’t sell on PC it’s losing profit on PC doesn’t matter how they look at it that is my point and they rather to gather every penny obviously. also at this point it is GTA IV all over again for me so i am in “i don’t care” mood. it took me +2 years to finish that game and if V turns out like IV i won’t miss VI to be honest even if it doesn’t come PC.
“The PC version needs much less money to make and makes more money per copy than the console version.”
Highly unlikely.
It does because on the PC version the game devs don’t have to pay Microsoft and Sony fees, nor to they have to pay for console devs kits. You do know Microsoft, Sony charge for patches and a percentage on the console games? That’s where they make money, not off the console itself.
Console game development is expensive and that’s why such studios need to sell a lot more console games than the PC version.
Do not forget that the launch of patch or DLC should also licensing on console and is not free.
Piracy is also very common in X360/PS3 , reselling games…
In short “Damage Control” in action.
The PC version is also cheaper to buy and seals less.
And console devs kits? Of course huge problems indeed.
I never saw a developer that is unwilling to pay to get his game on PS and Xbox. That should tell you a lot of how wrong you are.
devs pay because they have to and hope their game sells. Crytek was quoted as saying console development is expensive. Where do you think Sony and Microsoft make money then?
Yeah Crytek the best possible example.
Given their situation I’m not buying into their excuses at all.
Developers pay because they know they can sell their games at x console owners. On PC nothing is certain and anyway rarely a multiplatform games will sell better on PC.
R* will release the game on PC only to maximize their profits they don’t care about this platform. If PC as a platform would have been so profitable we would be playing GTA V on in by now.
“Developers pay because they know they can sell their games at x console owners.”
thats why all games flop?
There are 200 million ps3 and x360s and games sell like shit. Even watchdogs sold more on pc than ps3 or x360.
“If PC as a platform would have been so profitable we would be playing GTA V on in by now.”
Every developer says pc is making money for them, why rockstar does not try pc?
Had they released the fucking game on 2013, they would make money…now? meh.
Again with the nonsense.
Do I have to explain again something so obvious?
“all games flop”
Like GTA V. Really how old are you? 5?
R* knows way better than Durka Durka the potential of the PC platform.
PC makes money nobody said is doesn’t but it seems it doesn’t make enough money fast enough. The sales in the firs 2-3 weeks are critical. Also like I said good multiplatform games sell better on consoles.
All games flop YOU post nonsene by picking up one freaking game, whats next? are you gonna pick up cod next?
idiot.
Tomb raider barely broke even, hitman absolution the same, thief flopped. DMC sold badly, sleeping dogs sold badly, darksisders 2 flopped. Resident evil 6 flopped.
So yeah most games outhere flop, no mattter how much money the next gta or cod make or creed most of the games flop.
“R* knows way better than Durka Durka the potential of the PC platform.”
No it doesnt there are a ton of developers that support pc, Rockstar still hasnt gotten th message, even when gta iv was released they couldnt even set the gpu to render the enviroment, they used the cpu to do most of the work and the gpu to use its ram to load the textures.
They didnt release the game on steam, they used GFWL which everyone hates.
Rockstar is clueless about pc. Evey other developer outhere is more aware of the pc market than rockstar.
“it doesn’t make enough money fast enough.”
I am also gonna point out how alan wake made its money back in 24-48 hours on pc… just a single example like you did. Ill give you another one sniper elite nazi zombies and here is another diablo 3.
” I said good multiplatform games sell better on consoles.”
Duh, they are console focused games. After all those years they improved pc support and they sell better on pc than they did in the past.
Watchdogs on pc sold more than the x360 version and the ps3 one by now.
Again with the nonsense.
Tomb Raider, Hitman Absolution Sleeping Dogs are all Square Enix and they all did OK in sales. If they did not meet the expectation it doesn’t mean they did bad.
Darksiders 2 and THQ there’s your explanation.
DMC was not the best of the franchise quite controversial with DMC Fans. Another explanation.
Resident evil 6 was just a bad game.
You paint a picture where the PC is the cheapest, most easy and most profitable platform for game developers when the reality is different.
“Rockstar is clueless about pc. Evey other developer outhere is more aware of the pc market than rockstar.”
Yeah OK chief you are the best.
kid fck off.
Tomb raider barelly broke even so did hitman absolution, sleepind dogs sold 1.5 milliont thats ok?
So what if darksiders 2 was by thq? That doesnt mean anything homefront, saints row and metro were from thq they are still alive.
Dmc flopped for the same reson darksiders 2 and god of war ascension flopped, the gnere is dying.
Resident evil 6 bad game or not it made 5 million sales but needed 7, capcom finacials are crap, they got like 50 million in the bank thats why they arent making any big projects.
What about crysis 3? What about wolfensten new order? What about murderd soul suspect? None ofthose game sold well.
Resistane 3 didnt sell well either.
Games are not selling only cod, gta creed and such sell, so innovation is diyng and you end up playing sequels of sequels.
“the PC is the cheapest, most easy and most profitable platform for game developers when the reality is different.”
No thats the reallity that pc is the cheapest and most profitable.
Pc doesnt have royality fees or licensing fees.
50% of developers focus on pc. Pc has the most exlusives more and more developers focus on pc.
Its the eaisest place to start and make profit NOT consoles. Like i said sanctum 2 devs said that the cosnole version sales didnt even justify the development costs.
Pc is making more money than all cosnoles combined google it.
“Yeah OK chief you are the best.”
I wanna punch in the face ignorant twats like you who dont understand anything about this industry.
Rockstar has done nothing right on pc.
Their games are bad ports, they come out late and use garbage third party drm platforms.
Rockstar is the worst developer ever when it comes to pc support, every developer outhere supports pc more than consoles, if rockstar doesnt reallize that by not supporsting pc they are not gonna make any money from it, then they obviously fcking stupid.
On the other hand every other developer supports pc and makes money for it.
Explain me why so many developers have jumped on pc the last few years? Why pc has so many upcoming game releases, why pc makes more revenue than all consoles combined? Why ubisoft doubled their pc revenue this year?
Rockstar and you leave outside of reallity and you both need to wake up and face whats going on around you.
The reality is simple: PC is a 3rd grade platform on which developers invest the least and on which successful multiplatform games sell the least that is the truth the reality.
Past that there is nothing to talk.
Obviosuly big mass appeal developers spend the most money o on consoles than pc, everyone knows this you dont have to even remotetly related to the industry to know this.
Howevr watchdogs on pc outslold x360 and ps3 version.
Looking at crapboxone and the rise of pc gaming, it is highly propable that pc wil beat xbone in sales in a few years.
Now on smaller indie games and cult genres like sims and tactical games devs focus on pc and make most of ther money back from pc.
Pc is rising
To is funny to see that you mentioned games like Tomb Raider, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs or DMC. These are all AMD Gaming Evolved titles highly promoted on PC especially by AMD who was even giving away game codes with their gpus. And still the games didn’t do great. Where was the huge financial benefit of the PC platform for these games???
wut?
You do reallize amd promotions are barelly a thing right?
“sony initially forecast a $466 million net loss by the
end of the current financial year, but has now informed investors that
the projected loss has been revised to $2.14 billion.”
ahahahahhah so much for consoles
Barely a thing? are you drunk? Gaming Evolved promotions were everywhere on every tech blog, site and online shop. And still PC couldn’t do anything.
Sony is a big company and the console business is only a small part of the company.
There you have it quote the whole thing:
“The reason for the significantly deepened loss is Sony’s struggling smartphone division, which Hirai previously said would be key to revising the corporation’s fortunes.
Despite the grim market performance for Sony, its PlayStation subsidiary is performing
well, most recently announcing that it had sold ten million PlayStation 4 systems in less than a year.”
Its barelly a thing to pc gamers, but please explain me how the hell free copies are contributing in the pc game sales.
IDIOT
Yes the console busines is a small part of sony ant its not gonna save them.
AMD paid for those codes like millions of dollars genius.
And you said you study game development? yeah right.
And IDIOT Sony is such a big company there no way their console business can save them. If you were smart you would know that.
The funny thing is that Microsoft’s console department loosing money and you point out Sony which is doing great in that department.
Pure genius.
“AMD paid for those codes like millions of dollars genius.”
Pleas explain what you mean because once again i get the idea you are clueless and dont know what you are talking about.
“And IDIOT Sony is such a big company there no way their console business can save them.”
I know that, yet you have a hard time understanding basic things, i said that, why did you post as if i said the opposite?
Do you even read kid? Or you just spew nonsense without actually reading wtf you talking about?
“The funny thing is that Microsoft’s console department loosing money and
you point out Sony which is doing great in that department.”
Just look up.
Sony cant be saved by their console division you said it yourself. Ms doesnt relly on their console division and they 3 times plus bigger than sony and sucessfulll.
So….how messed up is your brain right now?
What’s to explain? AMD did not get those game codes for Tomb Raider or Hitman for free. You also have to take in consideration the huge promotion they did for those games, partnered with Square Enix and improved the graphics, experience and optimization level of those games and still PC sales were not enough to make them an universal success.
Yeah you made it sound like if console business was good Sony would not record a loss.
Also Sony’s revenue in 2014 is 75 billion and Microsoft’s revenue is 86 billion. Actually Sony is bigger than Microsoft and also has more employees they are just going through rough times.
Microsoft is just lucky they maintain almost a monopoly on the PC OS market.
How messed up is you brain right now genius?
We didnt pay for them though so it hurt sales figures.
“and still PC sales were not enough to make them an universal success.”
eh????
2 consoles with 180 million werent enough to make them a sucess.
“Also Sony’s revenue in 2014 is 75 billion”
Its not sony worth 18 billion.
“How messed up is you brain right now genius?”
Even more since you make no sense
“We didnt pay for them though so it hurt sales figures.”
Yeah and this makes a lot of sense. You are clearly very smart. AMD paid for those game codes so it doesn’t matter that “we didn’t pay”.
“2 consoles with 180 million werent enough to make them a sucess.”
Yeah but why wasn’t the most superior version of the games a rocking success when is had an unprecedented promotion campaign? Isn’t PC the most profitable, cheapest and best platform to develop a game on??
“Ms doesnt relly on their console division and they 3 times plus bigger than sony and sucessfulll.”
With all the grammatical errors that is what you said, that Microsoft is 3 times bigger than Sony.
Sony is a bigger and more diversified company that Microsoft. Lear some basic economics.
Also there is no doubt that Sony’s assets are more valuable than Microsoft’s. Sony is a huge hardware company involved in a lot of industries and with massive manufacturing capabilities.
“Even more since you make no sense”
I make no sense? your brain must be melted.
How the hell can a game sell more if amd bought the games and offer them for free with gpu purhcauses
THINK!!
“Yeah but why wasn’t the most superior version of the games a rocking success when is had an unprecedented promotion campaign?”
Ok seriosuly you are stupid.
THE PC VERSION NEVER HAS UNPRECEDENTED PROMOTION CAMPAIGN.
WAKE UP
IDIOT!!
“Sony is a bigger and more diversified company that Microsoft. Lear some basic economics.”
Kid i am getting tired of your bs, sony networth is 18 billion ms networth is 35 bllion
Ms is not lying, then again sony has 8billion debt. But you dint know that either dumbass then you telling me to lean basic economics.
PFFF
“Also there is no doubt that Sony’s assets are more valuable than Microsoft’s.”
They are not. Stop being a idiotic sony pony.
“Sony is a huge hardware company involved in a lot of industries and with massive manufacturing capabilities.”
and aside from playstation their products dont sense.
Once again you dont make any sense and my brain hurts reading your bs
STFU and GTFO you are a idiotic, everything you say is wrong and you should quit making a fool of yourself.
“How the hell can a game sell more if amd bought the games and offer them for free with gpu purhcauses”
Publicity, it’s that easy. Square Enix were not content with the performance of Tomb Raider’s sales. AMD’s purchase of game codes was only a minor part of the hole PC situation.
Satisfied??
Instead of insulting me it would have been more useful to explain why I’m wrong but I wasn’t expecting more from someone like you.
You already lost the argument deal with it.
Also the fact that Microsoft is wort more don’t mean it’s a bigger company than Sony. You said Ms is 3 times bigger well it’s not and I explained why.
After that you only show helplessness and stupidity.
Zero publicity you mean, amd’s “publicity” is barelly a thing and every pc gamer knows that.
“square Enix were not content with the performance of Tomb Raider’s sales.”
I am not content with anything regarding that game, how they ditched all the good prototypes and went with the most generic one, how the game doesnt feel like tomb raider how it costed 100 million to make, how they say 6 mllion sale sales are bad, how the game was broken on pc how its a xbone exlusive now and i dont see how amd giving free copies would result into higher sales on pc.
Satysfied?
“Instead of insulting me it would have been more useful to explain why
I’m wrong but I wasn’t expecting more from someone like you.”
Because you make bs statements amd giving free copies with their videocards or sticking a amd sticker on the game, will not change the fact that the game flopped on consoles and amd marketing is tiny compared to pc marketing, hell amd is just a fart compared to nvidia anyway.
“You already lost the argument deal with it.”
Thats why i insult you, because you are either completly retarded and delusional or a godamn troll.
All your “arguments” are utter nonsense.
“Also the fact that Microsoft is wort more don’t mean it’s a bigger company than Sony. ”
“After that you only show helplessness and stupidity.”
Yeah ok kid, call me back when you grow up and reallize how things things work then we talk.
“Thats why i insult you, because you are either completly delusional or a troll.”
You are that and continuing this discussion only insults my intelligence.
And learn to write. English is not my native language and I can see countless mistakes. Who can take you seriously when you can’t even write properly.
You were not able to contest any of my arguments and that just shows at what level you are. Sad.
Just so you know when AMD firs announced it’s Gaming Evolved bundle it was everywhere(yeah including DSOG) on the internet: tech sites, sport site, game site, online shops, forums, blogs, general news sites. Someone with internet access would have to live under a rock and not hear at all about Gaming Evolved. And we are taking about gamers, basically interested people.
You trolling fails and again amd’s promotion is useless compared to nvida or AAA publishers or sony or ms.
Yeah right…
“good multiplatform games sell better on consoles.”
bayonetta was a damn good multiplat title and it didn’t sell at all. i can name you more
The fact that didn’t sell at all doesn’t eliminate “sell better on consoles” does it?
yeah it does. diablo 3 and many types of games sell better on pc, some games sell better on consoles
Diablo 3 is a PC game by definition. Even so they ported the game on the last gen and new gen consoles.
so ? many of those multiplatform titles you said are console games by definition and then they port them on pc
Like?
are you that idiot or just trolling ?
assassin’s creed is one of them, do you want more ? most of the ubisoft’s titles.
AC is a Action Adventure games hardly a Console specific. You don’t know what you are taking about especially when AC was always a multiplatform game.
it wasn’t. it was a console game, made for consoles and then months later ported to PC. if action adventures are hardly a console specific games, so the diablo. first one came on consoles too
Sorry but RPG’s were always big on PC and specific to PC.
Most of Ubisof’t PC games are console ports, it’s hard to think of one that isn’t.
“The PC version is also cheaper to buy and seals less.”
The console sales sanctum 2 got werent even enough to justify the work put into the console versions the pc version sold the most.
“I never saw a developer that is unwilling to pay to get his game on PS and Xbox.””
Like Fez? that couldnt patch up the game because ms wanted money for patching games?
Seriosuly you are clueless
No it does consoles have royality fees, ms and sony take a cut.
And you never asked yourself why companies go through all that trouble then?
R* did made over 2 billion with GTA V on consoles. PC will never beat that.
The PC version of the game is buggier and it’s harder to fix the problems that appear as the game runs on countless configuration types on PC.
“PC will never beat that.”
For rockstar? No see they intentionally push the pc version so far that anyone who wanted the game pretty much got it.
But guess what? No other game will ever reach that on consoles. Not even cod.
Pc can make more money than consoles, infact google it pc makes more money than consoles because its cheaper and doesnt have royality fees and licsences and steam is cheaper than retails with no used sales.
“The PC version of the game is buggier and it’s harder to fix the
problems that appear as the game runs on countless configuration types
on PC.”
…..
You played the pc version? No the countless configurations isnt the problem, gta iv was buggy and had horrible framerate drops on consoles as well whle running at low med settings from what i heard.
The problem is that they build the game on consoles and gave someone else the pc port to be put together in mere months. The port was a disaster like the invisible buildings.
La noire on the other hand was made by bondai, ported to pc by rockstar leeds and workef just fine.
Rockstar messed up gta iv hard with the crappy social crap and securom drm.
Now if you take a look at other games they work just fine on pc. Its just rockstar sucking.
Id rather have some actual customization than a 30 fps locked out product that i cant improve or change controls.
As for making money? Every dev is suffering, all games are dumbed down to appeal to more people and get more sales, yet they keep failing in sales. All games we see in the last few years are samey sequels that play alike and seires like tomb raider are getting dumbed down while costing 100 million and barelly make profit, then ms gives money to get exlusivity and horror and rpgs genres are turned into action games because the publisher said so.
NO i dont want to be a part of this corperate slavery.
You may praise this sht but i dont, its garbage and it needs to go away.
If this is how games make money and maintain the studios, then they can die for al i care, those games and their devs dont have souls or anticiaptions, they only care about money not quality or improving any standards in gaming.
gta is making tha money becuase its one of the most popular games, while also being huge. Basicly they make money out of the dudebros that buy cod and fifa not because the game is “that good”
PC doesn’t make more money. You only have to look at multiplatform games and that’s it.
You clearly don’t understand how games work on PCs. A developer has to make his game run on countless configurations(different processors, gpus, drivers, ram etc).
Simply PC games are buggier than console games. That is a fact so yeah talk about easier and cheaper to develop.
“PC doesn’t make more money.”
Google it.
“You clearly don’t understand how games work on PCs.”
I study game development.
” developer has to make his game run on countless configurations(different processors, gpus, drivers, ram etc).”
Do YOU know how they do that? I do so screw off.
“Simply PC games are buggier than console games
No they are not. You have no fcking idea how this works or how bugs work.
“so yeah talk about easier and cheaper to develop.”
It is easier and cheaper why you think pc has more exlusives and more dev support?
Well I don’t believe you.
Most of the exclusives you find on PC are extremely low budget and not worth mentioning.
As someone that plays games on console and PC without a doubt I can say the PC version is buggier. You have driver problems a lot of times or optimization problems most of the time, stutter and so on.
If you study game development why not explain then your point of view? Because there is nothing to explain.
Lets say 90% of pc exlusives are not worth mentioning, pc still has more exlsuvies and they do make money as opposed to console exlsusives which are damaging.
First of all the word “buggy” is incorect when it comes to optimization and drivers.
Thats not the dev’s problem its nvidia and amd’s problem.
There is no diffirence between pc and console as far as bugs go, bugs have to do with the code not perfomance or stutters.
Console optimization is mostly about downgrading graphics and locking the framerate than writing a better code.
Obviously when its one system and developers have direct acess to the gpu and drivers the game will be more stable, but its mostly the case of downgrading the game and even on consoles there are bugs and stuttering.
I have been on pc for many years i had a problem with drivers once, where fallout would run like crap with a driver but borderlands would run fine and with another driver falout run fine but borderlands got memory leaks with dynamic shadows.
That was an issue with a new driver designed for new games, it was reported and it was patched.
If games were as buggy as you claim regarding drivers, then backwards compability wouldnt exist since every game would run randomly weird with artifacts and crashes due to diffirent drivers.
But as you see old games run just fine.
i sent him a pic, above you
sadly i cant see him send it to me
oh, it’s nothing new and i saw it already
“sony initially forecast a $466 million net loss by the
end of the current financial year, but has now informed investors that
the projected loss has been revised to $2.14 billion.”
hahahah
lol. i wonder what will they sell next, they sold their building, now we must wait and see what’s next :))
apparently its the 6th year they keep losing money and kaz hira has promised their will make profit…6 years now. That guy should harakiri himself.
LMAO
the pony cnts damage control this on dulashockers
ssshhhhhhh, educate yourself peasant
That doesn’t mean anything. I trust more the sales number developers like EA or Ubisoft provide. Those are the real deal not some surveys that are not relevant to the reality.
it’s not just a survey, it’s a fact and there are numbers from two srouce, one the actual numbers and the other one is a survey that filled by game developers themsevles, see that 48% it become 51% in 2014. it doesn’t mean anything by your logic.
trusting sale numbers from EA & Ubisoft ? where ? they give you a number which is a total sell and it’s not by platforms. by the way EA’s The Sims (first and second one) sold more on PC. ubisoft have more pc exclusive titles than other consoles combined. remember crysis ? it sold more on PC than crysis 2 and crysis 3 on all platforms
Man it’s a survey, Ubiosf and EA give real numbers like “84% of total income came from console sales”.
I mentioned Ubisoft and EA because the releases the majority of the multiplatform games and are more representative than a survey.
I don’t know how many of the developers that responded to tahat survey are exclusive small PC Indie developers. That is enough to dive numbers way off.
i told you one of the is not a survey. yet you repeat yourslef. when ubisoft or ea released this ? they only tell you how many unite of game X sold, not how many on which platform. that number is from all of the devs and small indie games are on all platforms too.
They release income numbers for each platform, more important than the number of sold units.
At Ubisoft PC sales were 14% of the total income generated by games sales.
nope they don’t. prove it with an unbiased source.
let me guess, 10% of total income is consoles and 76% mobile ? lol
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-made-up-largest-part-of-ubisoft-game-sales-dur/1100-6421105/
You are welcome.
that was not a related source. one game on PS4 ? which all of it’s ads was from sony and they promoted that on PS4 only, yeah. lol
What are you taking about? Those are the sales for all platforms for the last 3 months.
PC sales at Ubisoft=14%, huge for a company that generally sells only multiplatforms.
Why doesn’t PCs sell more games if you say they are more profitable?
i’m not saying pc is more profitable, companies are and it really is. most of the sells records are on pc, most of the profite from f2p games are on pc, mmos, pc only titles and some multiplats like skyrim or oblivion
He’s right, Sean. The delay has NOTHING to do with development or further optimization, but everything to do with money and shady business practices. They want to capitalize on the Holiday season with the console market. That’s the real reason for the delay.
De$tiny is a failure so now Micro$oft & $ony have gone back to Rock$tar to help them sell some consoles for the Holiday 2014 time period.
Destiny is the biggest flop in ages . Even the hype couldn’t save it .
How is a game a flop when it sold millions?
COD sell millions as well . Doesn’t mean its a quality product . May be “flop” wasn’t a right word but you got my point . It couldn’t live up to expectations . Not even close .
It has flopped critically that will greatly effect its sales both in the short term and in the long run. They had a 10 year plan for Destiny, now it will be Ghost Town in like 2-3 months.
There’s a difference between making money on “sold units” and making money on “shipped units”
This. They haven’t shipped enough units to make a profit so even if all the copies in stores right now sell out they will still be far away from declaring a success. Maybe they should have spent a little less on marketing and a little more on actually making a good game.
500m budget
No f*cking way, that’s just stupid, where did all the money go?
looking at mw2, that out of 250 million the 200 where for advertizing…yeah from what i heard destiny costed 150 million BAHAHAHHAh why? its so freaking empty….. the rest were invested for marketing and for the whole series, apparently they gonna make sequels… despite the flop.
lol, gamespot gave it a 6. i don’t care about reviews but i take Vanord reviews seriously because he knows what his talking about
Yeah , VanOrd is one of the very few good game journalists.
he is the only reason i check out Gamespot even now. hope he stays the same. i like Polygon reviews too though, some of them anyway.
When the paid media is en masse crapping on a game. It’s totally un-salvageable.
There’s already copies of it in the used section in my local gamestop when I checked yesterday along with a stack of White PS4 bundles they expected to sell that ain’t going anywhere. It’s that dead already. Even quicker than Watch_Dogs.
He is one of the best reviewers out there IMO, much respect to Vanord for not giving in to hype.
i just saw that, wtf?
“oh but pc doesnt have destiny”
Those console fanboys convinced themselfs the game will be a big hit and bought it before reviews, they are too blame for buying into the hype.
500million $, half or less for making a s*itty single player/always online game and half for those ads and media coverage and marketing 😀
looking at the 200 million out of 250 in mw2, being only for marketing, you can see where this is going.
Sad thing is activision spending 500m for the whole franchise…ahahahah too bad it flopped.
Further proof halo is overrated because ms pays for reviews.
Halo 4? everyone thought it was meh 9,5s everywhere, bungie makes a new game, meh ratings everywhere.
they are slaves 😀 this is the reason on how can they fall for this, plus they don’t have any other options. all i saw from destiny was a repetitive shooter with tons of back tracking
I collected information from various sources on destiny, i am now watching gamepot review, it says the exact same things, the campaign is trah, most of the time you fight waves of enemies unitl the robot hacks a door open and the game is empty and repettive.
Seriosuly borderlands 2 was miles better than this trash.
borderlands 2 had tons of weapons but most of destiny’s weapons are looks the same
noticed that too, borderlands also had twice as long campaign with variety.
LOL, Destiny failed already? I’m going to have to look this up because it seems like another overhyped console game lost the plot like the console users.
yep 😀 half of a billion $ for hype and flop
has it really?
Lolz… Price is already reduced! 😀
strange year it was so far thanks to all the hypes. for now Dark Souls 2 and Divinity Original Sin are my favorites of the year.
a failure? Please tell me more.
THIS PC VERSION BETTER BE THE MOST WELL-OPTIMIZED PC GAME EVER MADE -_-
looks like you will be getting a AMD card since it will be a AMD game with Mantle…
yeah I was just flipping him shit. I can only hope it’s as optimized as MaxP 3 was
Let us both get that 980 to push on through John.
I am really thinking of Picking up a MSI TF V model of it.
How could you not, it looks beast! As long as it is (officially) faster than a 780ti, even marginally (Using a 750ti here) then I’m in.
wccftech just posted yet another new rumor… looks like Nvidia might be making 900 series 20nm parts after all in 2015…
I want 20nm now, but I have money to burn on a new card, so I’ll get the 980 on release, then maybe sell it for the 20nm cards. Once 980 is purchased, it’s time for G Sync!
U sure about Mantle????
I think that was just a rumor…. nothing official yet :/
I don’t see why AMD would be posting video’s of GTA V on their own website. Not to mention the delay for PC… it kinda makes me think it’s to get it ready for Mantle Tech. Looks like AMD offered more money to Rockstar then Nvidia did.
i think it supports mantel , first gtav pc rumor was in AMD’s graphic driver. it could be a placeholder but at the same time it could be a mantel or whatever
I would really not shock me if it used both tech from AMD and Nvidia since it was on Nvidia’s website months ago in their geforce gaming news section.
Well Hope So! Its R*, we never know what ever the hell is going in their minds….
yeah Nvidia has it on their website months ago… so who knows who is going to have it… maybe it could use both AMD and Nvidia tech? guess we are going to have to wait for updates
It will be an AMD evolved title according to a credible source on GTAForums. Though, the mantle support hasn’t been set in stone yet.
I am one more Titan Z-like release from going back to the Radeon, for sure.
Well Nvidia took everything into consideration they seen the poor TitanZ sales as well as how gamer’s like ourselves took it as a huge slap in the face without even making a 790 to boot.
I can only hope Nvidia learned from this and get’s back to making real gaming cards. If the prices are true which we will find out in 5 more days to me that will be the 1st sign Nvidia is back to making game cards again.
That’s not necessary. They said Watch Dogs would be best on Intel, but I run it better with my AMD machine than most Intel users. So I think if you have a good system you do not need to worry.
http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page5.html
Not really!
it better be they got 2 years to do it
Says who? What source tells you they STARTED making the PC version two years ago???
who the fck needs 2 yeasr to make a freaking pc port?
That sht better have mouse menus, sli support, mantle oculus and uber mod support while running 120fps with 4k.
http://www.play.tm/news/389969002/pc-version-of-gta-v-in-development-since-2012/
I doubt it
its only two months ppl. get over it.
dear rockstar, i’m not a donkey 😀
Can you prove that you’re not a donkey?
do some research, your the one who wants to find out
To High!!!
hahaha…. Achha! I’ll keep doing so… 🙂
Well at least we are getting the game before consoles get GTA 6
soryy but 0 fucks were given, pirating this day one
“but the game requires a little more development time in order to ensure that it is as amazing and polished as possible.”
Yeaah sure it does then why does it take until the new year to be as polished as can be, because it would hamper sales of both the game and console during the festive season
And also because you want something to compete with Saint’s Row Gat out of hell
Also after reading somewhere it seems retail copies won’t activate on steam which is really annoying.
WTF, that just BS. No one will belive them. so yeah F*CK you rockstar. Console faggots sellouts!
Enought said and to some of you console fanboys GO F*CK YOURSELF. Soon consoles will be dead and so will those F*CKN CLOWNS be!!
IF this game came out the same day as 360 and PS3 version I would have bought it day one. Now they delay it again after all the development time theyve had on it and give some bullshizen excuse of making the game as polished as possible.
Im sure you would like us to respect your work enough to buy it R* but respect where respect is due, ill get this game when its on sale.
have you seen the trailer? it says “coming to ps4 and xbox one…….also on pc”
Those condescending pricks.
Steam dayONE 4k FTW!
Wich day? Peasant console running a game in 4k…or january month of mods…lmao
hauhueahehahhea
ahhh,shut up. people still believe whatever they told them. more time for polish ? yeah right
remember watchdogs ? delayed for more optimization or any other game that delayed for better optimization and ended up beign s*it. +this type of announcements is like an insult to their pc fanbase
The thing is they said it was lead on pc.
i know but thats what ubi said and after fc3 and blacklist we hoped that this time the game wont be a mess.
Not only it doesnt run like a pc game and stutters all the time but the controls feel like they are ripped from consoles the mouse aiming feels more like thumbstick aiming.
They couldnt even bother to disable accelaration while i found it and did it in 2 minutes.
even worse ? don’t think so, they heavily downgraded the game, and performance was awful on all platforms. so rockstar known to be good ? already forgot GTA IV ?
“equired hardware that wasn’t really available yet”
they call it bad port.all of the bad ports do the same…
and it didn’t ran fine, it got better but not fine.
no it doesn’t look good, textures were awful, lack of AA option and amont of bluriness and awful shadows which fixed by mods not rockstar
they wont thats the thing, they try to maximize console sales.
If anyone believes Sony and MS paid R* to delay a game 2 months for a market that isn’t going to effect the sale of the console version, has got there head up their own arse…
it’s going to effect console sells in general. GTA is a massive system seller. only one exclusive DLC for destiny made a huge difference in it’s sells and PS4 sells
yet still ms and sony will sell more consoles because of that. many pc gamers played it on last gen consoles, they want to do that again and then release it for pc and sell on pc as well. one more reason for delay is modding, imagine a week after launch, pc will have it’s first wave of mods, funny mods, bringing other games characters in game etc… consoles will look bad if that happens.
anything but optimization, we know it’s sh*t, they know it’s sh*t
ofcourse its not like sony has exlusive rights to advertize destiny.
Crazier things have happened behind close doors.
Ms paid 50 million for timed dlc on gta iv.
From what i heard its been in development since 2012, seriously how much longer it needs? If the testing on steam i heard are real, then it just come out in a perfect state, but i doubt it, seems to me its more the case of doing it in their free time, as not giving a dam, rather actually care about pc.
“they didn’t even have to make a PC version,”
No one has to, but everyone does, why is rockstar so hard to do it on gta? Max payne vancouver was made by a diffirent rockstar studio and a diffirent rockstar studio ported la noire on pc. So the reason is either techinical or they just dont care about it.
From the infromation leaked the pc version has been in development since 2012.
Finally yeah, by taking 2 years to release a godamn pc version they are not gonna get much from pc, nearly everyone who really wanted the game got it.
yes, it is more than enough. they don’t want to make a new GTA game, 2 years for a port is more than enough. how those delays helped DukeNukem Forever and never ?
you said 4 years to make GTA V, then 2 years for a port. still pc version is the only one who get delayed.
it’s a port, 99% of the game is the same, only graphics changed a little bit. modders did that with GTA IV in less then a year, and those textures are even better than GTA V textures.
Imagine our frustration since by the looks of it they siting on a finished game for years.
We just wanna know wtf is going on.
from what i read the pc version was in development from 2012, could be bs but seriously how freaking long it takes them to do it.
Its like rockstar north decided to catch up with pc, since next gen consoles are now pc like and took lessons for 2 year.
The PC version of GTA V was in development since at least 2011, probably earlier (developer log file shows).
It’s definitely more than 2 years for sure. And the PS4 and XB1 versions were directly ported from the PC version, which was finished long ago.
The most important thing to mention is how advanced was the development of the PC version. Most likely they reserved less then 10% of their resources in developing the PC version.
PC was never meant to be release at the same time the with the console versions so it’s illogical to think that they concentrated on the PC version as much as they did on the other versions of the game.
Do you really believe that?…Wow. Is like they are stating things to 10 year old kiddos who believe everything an adult say.
The game is finished…they probably got money from Microsoft and Sony to put the game first on the new consoles and that’s just all.
They are trying really hard to make new gen consoles look good but the truth is what we all know…PC is the lead and always be.
I play on consoles too but these marketing strategies “against” the PC (in other way or the other it is what it is) is getting on my nerves…I just want to play the goddamn games now…not later than the others.
Tired of gaming in general lately…full of unfinished games, bad performance/optimization, locking the frame rate in a platform where you pay more to get more…etc.
Tired..really tired.
Sadly, many PC gamers will believe this load of bullshit because they didn’t bother researching the developer logs or think for themselves outside of what Rockstar is telling them.
Sony/Microsoft don’t even need to pay. There’s a reason the downgraded Old-Gen version of GTA V launched over a year before the New-Gen/PC version. Maximizing Console Profits.
Rockstar does it all the time with some shitty excuse for not launching the PC version alongside.
Regardless, let’s say I bite. Once it launches in [January], their bullshit will unravel itself when it’s just as badly optimized as GTA IV, with shoddy controls to boot.
u are actually right but i think the biggest reason is the pirate players on PC^^
no it’s not. it pirated on last gen consoles by a large number, it was one of the top torrent files for months in most torrent sites. insulting pc gamers by delaying it for two years won’t help piracy but it lead to more piracy
and every game coming out is basicly a sequel that plays like the previous ones no innovation.
Not quite original but atleast evil within is not a sequel.
RE4.
yes and sillent hill thats why i am interest in it. But its not a RE game, its like the old RE games, its not another ubisoft game that plays alike or cod and bf.
Here’s the translation: “Sony and Microsoft paid us a lot to release the remastered version on consoles first.
Knowing you PC crowd, you’d either pirate it or wait till some ridiculous sales to get the game anyway. Oh, you guys would still need to fix the game for us post launch, you know… GTA4?”
People! behold that increasing consoles and console games sales by delaying PC games is called PC optimization! Bloody hell
Lmfao….complete and utter nonsense. Rock star must think were idiots or something. Its a FACT that the PC version was in development since at least 2011, and well before the ps4 & Xbox 1 were even known to the public. According to insiders at GTAForums, the PC version was fully completed in January 2014. That’s right, January 2014 and the developer log entries also demonstrate that it was virtually complete even as early as August 2013.
Rockstars statement and polish is an insult to my intellegince. it was delayed on PC for no other reason than money whoring. Its also the reason why they’re releasing the peasent version in November, because that’s when the holiday season starts and they want to milk the console market for the holiday season. they also don’t want to you know that the peasent versions are mere ports from PC and that th PC version is superior in Evey way. They wont be telling you that until all the smoke has settled and the presents have had their run. Then cocktar will want to be our best friends, but you can go fuck yourself, rock star.
LOL, this is complete and utter bullocks. Rockstar must think we’re idiots or something. Folks, the PC version was in development since at least 2011, well before the PS4/XB1 were even known to the public and before Rockstar themselves even received dev kits for those systems.
According to insiders at the GTAForums, the PC version was fully completed and by all intents and purposes, ready for the gold master or digital distribution in January 2014. You read right, January 2014!. The developer log file (discovered inside the PS3 disc of the game) further corroborates this and demonstrates that the game on PC was virtually (save a few late issues) complete even as early as August 2013.
There is nothing more to “optimize” and or polish as the game was developed on PC and for PC and was in development for several years.
This latest Rockstar statement regarding optimization and extra polish is an insult to the intelligence of all those who’ve been investigating the matter and read through the entire developer log (over 200 pages).
Simple fact:
The PC version was delayed for no other reason than simple money whoring. Plain and simple. It’s also the primary reason why they’re releasing the peasant versions in mid-November instead of October, because that is when the Holiday season starts and they want to milk the console market for the Holiday season.
They also don’t want you to know that the peasant versions are mere, gimped PC ports and that the PC version is lead platform of those versions and superior in every way.
They won’t be telling you that until all the Holiday smoke has settled and the peasants have had their run. Then C* will want to be our best friends and only then, but nope, they want be getting my money again. Rockstar has been added to my list of developers who I avoid like the plague. Right along side Ubisoft, and EA.
According to your own words the “peasants” are the ones paying the salaries of TakeTwo staff. Why should they privilege the mighty Loser Race when the 2013 report shows that only 3% of T2 SW revenues come from PC sales? You get what you pay for, quit whining.
I have seen you trolling pc gamers and suckign off sony all the time.
See the problem is this the consoletarded peseants are clueless when it comes to those things.
So you say that you peseants are paying the salaries and pc gamers are losers then you say that the revenues comes from consoles.
and i ask HOW THE HELL WOULD THE REVENUE COME FROM PC IF THEY DONT RELEASE GAMES ON PC?
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The 3% is from buying their old games on steam which actually ARE on pc.
“You get what you pay for, quit whining.?”
Thats the damn problem I WAS NEVER GIVEN THE OPTION TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO ME.
Now the other developers like pretty much EVERY MULTIPLATFORM DEVELOPER EVER who releases games on pc, have found that the pc master race has increased their revenue, even ubisoft admited that.
Pc gaming revenue is higher than all consoles combined.
So many games keep coming out on pc. 50% of devs develop on pc, only 17% on ps4.
Intel said there are 711 million pc gamers.
So there is a freaking market there, doesnt rockstar see that there is a future in pc gaming? Which is what every godamn developer has figured out by now?
Old games that were never on pc were released on pc lately, like enslaved, brutal legend, even small japanesse games like deadly premonition and killer is dead or xbone exlusives like dead rising 3 and ryse.
So obviously pc is making money or all those developers fcking stupid and dont know any better?
Mgs v is coming to pc. Wow unbelievable eh?
Way of the samurai 4 a ps3 exlusive is coming to pc.
Why are all of them releasing games to pc, but rockstar who would obviously get alot of sales on pc dont? Why do they go as far as to push the pc version year later?
Then you telling us that its our fault the game is not on pc when every single other game is and we are somehow responsible for that.
Explain me how every other developer can magically release the game in the same day on pc or a few weeks afterwards but rockstar cant!!
Explain me that.
yup its sad. The kids in christmas expect to play gta on their new shinny ps4s and xbones not pc. They pushing the sales.
i just don;t care anymore, i will pirate the shit out of it, i wanted to buy it but i’m not gonna play it online and the waiting has pissed me off. So, kickasstorrents here i come.
come on….that comes to contradiction with what you usually post.
Rockstar and optimization lol! as in minimum requirements I7 5960X and GTX980 to run it a 60FPS.
It’s not a huge deal. We just have to wait a couple more months. It will be worth it so stop complaining!
2015 delay = piratebay.
Whatevs…i enjoy playing GTA 5 on my PS3
they can do worse, for example a new always online DRM for GTA V which disable mods and piracy and even worse than that is the games with always on drms, that means even is you buy it you can’t own it, when they switch their servers off the game will die with it.
don’t get me wrong, i’m pissed too and i don’t have plan for buying it, at least i never pay more than 30$ for it unless it’s going to be the best port that anyone ever created with some extras for the delay.
unfortunately games as a service is the future, whether we like it or not. I hate it
They Just Said Exactly The Same Thing When were Explaining Why Gta v pc is delayed to
january 27 !!!
F’ YOU ROCKSTAR , I KNOW YOU’RE LYING LIKE A *****