It appears that Denuvo is doing an extremely good job at combating video-games piracy. While its early versions were cracked by various pirate scene groups, its latest version – that has been used in Just Cause 3 – is driving all groups crazy. Despite the huge amount for a pirated version, the game has not been cracked yet, and 3DM is at the verge of simply abandoning its attempts at cracking it.
As 3DM’s forum founder ‘Bird Sister’ claimed, Just Cause 3 has driven its cracking guy crazy.
“Recently, many people have asked about cracks for ‘Just Cause 3?, so here is a centralized answer to this question. The last stage is too difficult and Jun [cracking guy] nearly gave up, but last Wednesday I encouraged him to continue.”
Bird Sister then claimed that pirated games may no longer exist in two years if more developers/publishers start using such anti-tamper technologies as Denuvo.
“I still believe that this game can be compromised. But according to current trends in the development of encryption technology, in two years time I’m afraid there will be no free games to play in the world.”
All in all, Denuvo seems to be doing an amazing job for developers/publishers. And no; Denuvo does not cause slowdowns. Batman: Arkham Knight was a mess and players should blame the team responsible for the PC version and not Denuvo. After all, both Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and Mad Max run ridiculously amazing and they are protected by Denuvo.
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wrong lords of the fallen was cracked.dragon age inquisition was cracked and its only a matter of time till just cause 3 is cracked.i guess they dont look at torrent sites..lol
guess you don’t know how to read properly.
Denuvo Is Successfully Protecting Games, Pirated Games May No Longer Exist In Two Years.its the the title right.its wrong.
those games have been cracked for a while so denuvo has been cracked the the article is wrong.you need to know you sh*t before you read just an article and respond.
Your lack of interpretation is disturbing.
The article is not saying that its not crackable now, its saying that it’ll maybe not crackable in two years.
this guy only read the title
it has been cracked. it just takes alittle time and the article is wrong.
the article is wrong… yet it quotes the actual cracking team.
man, gtfo of here.
It took a long time compared to previous games. But hopefully, some group will manage to beat Denuvo as well. Honestly, as long as the game works in such ways that all the information is stored locally, there will probably always be a way to circumvent it. Time will tell…
Why “hopefully”? If it’s not an inconvenience to legitimate customers, it shouldn’t be cracked.
because konami and ea suck and ubisoft makes bad ports.
Which has nothing to do with DRM and consumer rights in particular.
It has everything to do with drm and consumer rights in general.
Kindly explain then. I need something better than “konami and ea suck” to giver you a proper reply.
” to giver you a proper reply.”
You never do, years ago i remember you defending ea so there is no point arguing with you.
Not to mention its already been proven you can have great sales even if a game is cracked. I mean look at GTA5 sales for example.
or fallout 4.
Meanwhile the likes of lords of the fallen or hawx 2.
If a game is lackluster its not gonna sell well on the PC
In other words you had nothing interesting to say and just wanted to ride on this discussion. Very well then. Oh, and even though I don’t specifically recall what you just mentioned, I will defend any company or individual or group if I feel they are in the right, whether they are EA or otherwise.
“, I will defend any company or individual or group if I feel they are in the right, whether they are EA or a homeless guy.”
EA is never right and the guy who upvoted you is a moron.
Of course, don’t bother explaining and keep making vague statements, I’ll wait.
isn’t this what you do?
I’m only playing the game that you started.
lol i started it?
It IS an inconvenience. I can store a pirated copy of a game on an external hard drive and install it anytime I please even if my internet connection is down. I can make copies of the game for close friends who wants to try it out. If Steam goes down someday, I can still access my games whenever I see fit.
DRM cripples consumer rights and is bullshit in general.
And as an example of digital distribution services going down we have indie royale (servers still up but they stopped offering bundles, I’m pretty confident they will take it all offline pretty soon). We also have Playstation Mobile which offered games for the PS Vita. Also offline and no, you can’t redownload past purchases anymore.
Those matters are best addressed through consumer courts and forums, not via illegal activities. If anything, the cracking scene only reinforces the need for more stringent DRM from the point of view of publishers. But yes, I definitely understand the points you made regarding game ownership.
I don’t know where you’re from but in Sweden, there are not much the consumer courts can do, which is an absolute shame.
Yes, I know that’s how publishers and others see it, but on the other hand, we have seen services that I think we’d never have if it weren’t for piracy. I don’t mind paying for goods and services but the way drm works, I think there would be consumer outrage if it were enforced the same way on other goods.
But yes, if there were legal ways (other than the old “vote with your wallet”) to combat this bullshit, I would absolutely prefer it.
I think it also has to be kept in mind that software is intangible, as opposed to commodity goods, hence the outrage wouldn’t really be worthwhile. But I agree we need better regulations regarding licensing of intellectual property; however I think any illegal activity is definitely not the appropriate recourse.
“Those matters are best addressed through consumer courts and forums, not via illegal activities”
In what world? In the real world pirating solves all problems with DRM instantly, while those things you mentioned do nothing.
He will keep on defending the likes of EA. Valves return policy has been the best thing to happen in pc gaming in a long time, look at arkham knight, i enjoyed that one, they pulled down the game from the shop because everyone was returning it.
Pirating doesn’t solve anything because it plays against established laws. I’m referring to changes in legislation.
Okay, what changes other than legalizing piracy? You don’t think it’s possible to force publishers to adjust prices per country, do you? Fair prices are the only way to actually increase sales and for whatever reason publishers have been reluctant to go that route. I reckon it might just be a case of too many layers of useless “managers” who don’t communicate so the people at the top don’t know what needs to be done and the people at the bottom have no way to or no interest in telling them. So what’s your plan given this conundrum?
I never said anything about “legalizing” piracy. I support fair pricing, and I support creators being compensated for their work. Laws should be framed that accommodate both of these. If such laws are considered unfair by any party, that party is free to campaign for changes or amendments in aforementioned laws instead of breaking them.
“I support fair pricing, and I support creators being compensated for
their work. Laws should be framed that accommodate both of these.”
Well then it’s time they get on those fair pricing laws because none exist. There’s plenty of copyright law going around today, to comical extents, especially if you look at smartphones. But the opposite does not happen at all. There is no law anywhere that says you can’t make your product as expensive as you want.
And I don’t think that’s a serious option so are you being sincere? Do you really think lawmakers could limit the price a company is allowed to charge for convenience/entertainment products? I can see it with energy/food/rent but luxury goods? Never gonna happen.
It does happen actually. Like I said it depends on a case by case basis. The fair pricing isn’t evident in all countries, but it does exist. I support campaigning for law amendments via consumer forums so that a legal process can be initiated to spread fair pricing to countries which currently don’t have access to it.
This this, a million times this! It ridiculous how I could get a much better service from pirating a game (updates too), than I get paying £50.
oh come on now, how can you have a problem with just cause 3 interupting gameplay to tell you that you lost connection to the server when its not even a online game?
How could you dislike the perfomance drop that comes from the drm?
hey now, if they say denuvo doesn’t impact performance over and over and over again then its gotz to be tru!
they have cracked the article is wrong just saying.
time to start paying for your games kids.
its time they start adjusting the price of the games. In some countries a single game can cost up to 80. In others people get 300, while the games are 60. Also look at Australia and their prices of DIGITAL games.
Online stores make me sick. 60 dollars is not equal to 60 euro either.
some countries are poorer than others so of course they shouldn’t pay as much for their games.
you can even take advantage of the price differences without even needing to steal anything.
I don’t blame devs for wanting to combat piracy, but I’m still against this type of stuff. These types of DRM have caused so many headaches over the years, you’re still restricting what legitimate users can do and from what I understand it can prevent modding, or at least make it significantly more difficult. I doubt it’ll happen for big games, but I’d like to see DRM free releases continue to gain more traction.
Wrong. Denuvo does not prevent modding — at least not that kind of modding, that doesn’t have the need for accessing the executable protected with Denuvo.
If the developers and/or the studios still gave modders and gamers some sort of modding tool kits etc. then of course there will be a somewhat active modding scene.
But are there modding tool kits etc. available for those great AAA titles? No.
“Denuvo does not prevent modding”
wrong. it did, go check JC3’s multiplayer mod. they can’t mod it so they decide to find a way to bypass denuvo.
Yes and why is that? Because the mod in question needs access to the executable of the game itself.
(Those mods are the exception to the rule.)
And I already mentioned that in my post but semingly you didn’t care for that part.
You’re still clueless, even the most modded game ever (Skyrim) which provided an amazing set of mod tools, needed SKSE for a great number of impressive mods.
So, because I’m “still clueless” I took the liberty to reach out to someone who is involved in the *SEs.
I asked him about the probability of creating and/or using a *SE with a Denuvo-protected game and his answers all boil down to the following:
If certain memory addresses (i.e. specific script-related functions that can’t be accessed another way) are protected then they’re screwed. But, if those memory addresses are not protected then there is a possibility to utilize them.
Because of that (not everything in the executables is protected) you are still able to use tools like Cheat Engine and those CE tables (you can access memory addresses in more than one way) for every Denuvo-protected game that’s actually out.
But yes, you are right — in some way. If developers use Denuvo then there is a (high? very high?) probability that mods, patches etc. won’t work _if_ they require to modify the executable files.
What would be interesting is a situation where a developer wants to ulitilize Denuvo but still wants to give full modding support. Would it be possible for him to work out a solution (most certainly with Denuvo involved I presume) so that modders can access all modding relevant memory addresses freely?
In that case, it will be a hassle for developers to make their game ‘mod-able’, as it will take more time and budget from them.
And that, in indirect way indicates that Denuvo (or those kind of DRM) is preventing the game to be mod-able.
Yeah, Mod tools will have to be directly allowed and created by the devs, which kinda goes against the spirit of modding.
Another bad side of an uncrackeable protection like that in a few years the game might be unplayable. There’s plenty of games that would not be playable nowadays without some kind of cracking to free them from extinct platform or allow it receive fanpatches to be played in newer software.
Denovo didnt prevent modding dude, all konami title support modding even use denuvo. EA meanwhile even without denuvo doesnt support modding
Bro just admit you want to be able to freely pirate. FFS let’s just all be honest and stop beating around the damn bush.
I have no problems with DRM but they should set game prices to regions correctly, in my country a game cost the same as in Germany ~60 euro, the difference is their salary is 6 time more than ours.
Yeah that is the main problem, 60 bucks for a country whose minimum wage is 1800 is pfttttttttt but in a country that is 300…….it is impossible.
“I’m afraid there will be no free games to play in the world.”
Weird, last time I checked there were plenty of freely available games that didn’t require any kind of illegal cracks or tampering.
Typical c*nt.
GOG is our only Lord and Savior then
It certainly beats other intrusive and less effective DRM methods like uPlay, always on and the like. And since it’s been disproven (or fixed) that it caused bad performances I’m all for it!
The only doubt I still have is that I’ve heard of it being bad for SSD users due to constant rewriting or something like that. But that might be misinformed too, I’m sure someone will be quick to point that out if not.
Good but the weird thing here is that only 3dm seems to bother cracking those games. What happen to other groups?
The most important thing of this is that it will prove that pc sales will not skyrocket if piracy doesnt exist. It will prove that piracy barely makes a dent. For example if you look at lords of the fallen, phantom pain or arkham knight, you cant really say they sold well on pc. Jut cause is another story. But look at fallout 4 that sold very well despite the lack of denuvo.
reverse psychology dsog? 🙂
You’re talking as if all games will use Denuvo. I assume that like any other DRM it will cost shittons of money to implement Denuvo, especially if its really prevent illegal copy. I don’t really care about Denuvo but the last couple of games that i bought with denuvo seems to love online connection, i can’t even go to offline mode in MGS V since it always just try to connect. And the one time my internet actually goes down, i have a minus amount of money in the bank since all of my money somehow ended up online. Ok I’m mad now.
I feel like a pointless article like this always comes up with a new scary form of DRM. EVERYTHING IS CRACKABLE.
Surely there’s a point where something is so far along the curve that even if, theoretically, it’s crackable, it simply becomes unfeasible for someone do actually spend the time actually doing it. And when that happens you have a game that is no different from one that can’t be cracked.
That could very well be their goal at this point. If they can learn anything from Hollywood & co. it’s that you can’t kill Piracy entirely, & AAA Publishers don’t care so much about the long-term as they do the short-term anymore.
0-Day/0-Week Sales Numbers are all that matter to them right now (much like the Hollywood Box Office), so maybe their primary interest/intent is just to delay the inevitable for as long as possible. They’ve tried this before, after all by delaying Asian release dates slightly in an effort to stop Scene Groups from getting their hands on the retail discs & cracking them Pre-Launch even.
Given that many companies want their quarterlies to look good (and that games perform strongest/have the biggest impact in their launch window) it makes sense.
While I do agree to some extent, take a look at Robert McEliece’s encryption algorithm from 1978 that is still uncrackable to date using state of the art techonology. It has also been proved to some extent that even known quantum cryptography attacks cannot crack this algorithm. 😛 Just saying…….
I am not sure why but nature encourages encryption more than decryption. It is easier to encrypt a file than to decrypt it, maybe everything is crackable but is it crackable in the time when we need it.
Hahaha.It’s just a matter of time
So what does this mean for us who live in countries where minimum salary is 300 euro?
it means, that we will have to wait just a liiiittle bit longer to download a repack version 😉
Does it? I doubt 3dm will bother fix mgsv or batman arkham knight.
Why don’t you buy during Steam sales?
usually cheaper games=older games
So? What’s the harm in waiting for a while if you can’t afford it immediately?
because life is short.
Then better get a job quick so you can pay for your stuff.
I see, I like, I take lol
The world doesn’t work that way. Ask your parents.
the world works exactly like that. criminal activity is everywhere, it’s just hidden from your eyesight.
I meant the world doesn’t work that way for regular people who respect the law and each other. Criminals are scum and have no place in civilized society.
government officials steal all the time. what you gonna do about that?
Gather popular support and replace your government by voting them out. Or contest the elections as an independent candidate if you actually want to make a change.
that would absolutely work in parallel reality! don’t get me wrong, I would love to support game developers but, there’s this wall between us called ‘publisher’. and that wall usually ruins everything.
Like I said then, wait for a sale and buy it at a lower price. But somehow it seems to me publishers aren’t your problem… you just want the game for free.
damn, you got me! but still, should I buy the game, or food that will last me for a week? decisions decisions….
Buy the food first, and buy the game later. Or better ask your parents since you don’t seem to have a stable income.
yeah, I will do that. thanks for you advice.
You’re very welcome. Remember, the internet and video games are a luxury and not a necessity. I’m sure your parents will tell you about it in detail and how they paid for things themselves.
HAHAAHAHAHAH oh god he is mocking you.
Hahaha oh god I know. Read my replies between the lines..
Lol no
Mmkay.
and we are back at Mmkaying each other.
I figured that would be the best thing to do since I’m still waiting for that explanation from your end.
He seems to think you were serious and not condescending.
“Gather popular support and replace your government by voting them out.”
HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH
Ok seriously where do you live?
I live in India actually. We have a decent government now compared to the last one.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
yup exactly everyone is corrupt, eu, usa, china, russia.
because there is no way to buy anything online in my country.
You can’t buy from Steam? Which country are you in?
Serbia, to be fair there is online shopping but only within our borders, you can’t order anything from outside as there is no paypal or anything like that. Nobody here really cares about piracy, we have a lot bigger problems than rogue software.
I don’t think the argument “nobody cares” is a valid one. Anyway, you really don’t need Paypal or anything to buy from Steam. All you need is a debit card in case you can’t afford a proper credit card yet. You can buy Steam Wallet codes using that from any country and put wallet funds in Steam. Besides, I checked on Steam Spy and there seem to be quite a few Serbian players, with an average of 16 games owned per player. So I definitely think there are legitimate alternatives for Serbian players who play on Steam.
I can only get Debit or Credit cards from local banks and i can’t pay anything with them outside Serbia. I need a lot bigger income to qualify for a card that is recognized in the world like visa and master card. I really have no idea what Steam Wallet codes are, could you
explain that a bit please?
Here’s an explanation regarding Steam Wallet codes from Steam’s support site:
“Steam Wallet codes work just like gift cards which can be redeemed on
your account for Steam Wallet credit and used for the purchase of games,
software and any other item you can purchase on Steam. You can find
Steam Wallet Codes at many retail stores across the World in a variety
of denominations and different currencies.”
Basically what this means is that you can buy Steam Wallet codes using your local currency and regular payment methods, and then you can activate that code on Steam and get the amount reimbursed in the form of Steam credit, which you can use to buy games from Steam. For this you don’t need PayPal or credit cards. If local gaming stores in Serbia (for example, ComputerLand and GameShop) sell Steam Wallet codes, you can get it from them using cash itself. However, if you don’t find any stores in Serbia that sell Steam Wallet codes, I suggest you get an international debit card like Maestro or Visa Debit issued from your local bank (for example, Banca Intesa Beograd or ProCredit Bank) so you can buy Steam Wallet codes from international retailers. Getting an international debit card is easy and you do not require any proof of income like you do for credit cards; all you need is a bank account.
Thanks for the info, I’ll see what i can do to get a debit card.
You are not entitled to anything. Do you steal other things you can’t afford?
Nothing is stolen, the devs still have all game files. It’s not like i hacked their servers and removed and deleted all their work. Piracy is copying not stealing.
Piracy is theft of license actually. Software itself can’t be stolen because it’s not tangible.
the one good thing you got is now gone.
Rise of the Tomb Raider will most likely have Denuvo as well.
it will!!
i think this is the same like the posts about pc gaming is dead w/e man 😛
….
Old versions moron, the each new version is harder and harder.
Exactly at one hand the piracy argument goes out of the window, but the always online, dlc dlc preorder dlc, 20 bucks map pack for a incomplete game, microtransactions will continue to increase.
Having 900+ games on steam that I have not even touched and little free time to do so, I have no interest in pirating games anymore, back in the day pirating everything was the “in thing”… now I just pay for what I need.
Sounds like more like you pay for just about anything whether you need it or not. If you support random games and don’t even play them what do you expect is going to be the consequence? More random games are going to come out and it’s unlikely you’ll want to play any of those either. You’re wasting your money and flooding the market with bad games. Stop.
This is wrong, piratable games provides users the opportunity to try the game, to see if we like the game and how it runs on our computers, because if it’s good i bet most of us will buy it later. DMR FREE is the way foward not DENUVO, but since when anyone gives a f*ck about us, pc gamers ?
P.S: Not to mention every game should be moddable and above all it should not be at any circumstance a CONSOLE PORT ever, but what tha hell no one gives a single f*uck about what we think, all they want is ’em money in ’em pockets.
“This is wrong, piratable games provides users the opportunity to try the
game, to see if we like the game and how it runs on our computers,
because if it’s good i bet most of us will buy it later.”
Keep $60 in a Paypal account. Use Steam’s refund service. No need to “try-before-you-buy” anymore as you can legitmately try anything on that is on Steam (which covers most games) just by keeping that $60 in circulation.
I have to disagree on this, because 2H it’s not enough to try a game out at least for me and if it’s some sort of moddable via ini’s or something like that it will take some time to properly see if it’s really worth it.
Consumer law covers you beyond two hours, allowing you to make a compelling appeal. The two hour thing is only for no questions asked/immediate refunds.
And honestly, you have consumer feedback to answer most of your questions on various aspects of a game.
well thank valve for refunds.
I can live with Denuvo as long as it does not prevent modding a game.
I bought the game 2 weeks ago and still has not played it. The issue was that it wasnt accepting the steam key. It said that it was wrong I sent an email to Square Enix Europe and they told me that they can not do anything and that i must return it to the shop that i bought it and demand it to be replaced with another copy. So i returned to the shop. 4 days later they phoned me and they told me that the game is ready and to go to take it. Yesterday i went and they said that they found that the dvd were scracthed,, I became TOO ANGRY!! I told them again that the issue is the steam code/key not being accepted by the game and they asked me to sent them the email that Square Enix sent me. So i sent it to them. Now i am waiting for them to finaly repalce it with another working copy!!!!
“YEEESSS! FINALY PIRATES ARE STARTED GETTING DEFEATED!! YEEEEEEEESSSSS”
well there you go, this is why people whine.
ahhh, the new ”unbreakable” DRM. they come and go…. lol
That’s good and that’s bad. Good, because creators deserve payment for their work. Bad, because when devs realise they have monopoly for their content, can (and will) enforce any pricing they find suitable. No discounts after some time either. I’m from Eastern Europe and when I want buy a single new game, I have to spend fifth of my net income. So either seriously discounted games or pirates. End of piracy for some will mean end of playing mainstream VG. For example, GTA4 on Steam cost 80% of it’s original price. That’s 20euros for a 7 year old game. That’s madness.
How can multiple devs have monopoly on the market? Monopoly means only one developer makes the games. But regarding pricing discrepancies, have you tried regional key resellers and local distributors in order to buy your games? My country’s average income is much less than Eastern Europe’s, but fortunately regional prices are adjusted accordingly.
Regional prices are not adjusted at all, at best they lower it by 2-5 bucks. Call me again when they actually lower it by 20. Thats when it will be fair to the people with 200$ incomes. I do know quite of few of those on my steam friend list.
P.s. 60 dollars is not equal to 60 euro. That alone is the biggest BS/slap in the face ever.
Yeah I know the pricing adjustment doesn’t happen in all countries. It’s unfair indeed. I think Valve needs to take notice else they will alienate a lot of potential customers.
“devs”
PUBLISHERS.
You should check out Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3. Those games until 1 year ago were almost full priced. Needless to say.. they are like 10-15 years old now. This is madness, not GTA being 20. lol.
“when devs realise they have monopoly for their content, can (and will) enforce any pricing they find suitable”
They already do have that monopoly. The only thing devs will realize through this is that piracy was never a problem for sales to begin with. How will they realize this? Sales will not increase in response to successful anti-piracy measures. You can’t force people to buy games they were never going to buy. You can only stop them from playing your game and that’s the only thing DRM does. Well, that and data-mining every user’s computer.
As a long time PC gamer, I think our platform needs this to continue growing and to hold our ground against consoles. I would welcome it. But what would be even better – more regions with adjusted pricing at digital stores (to stop things like Eastern Europe gets Western prices despite having way less income) and return of demos to try out games.
only drm pc games will never happen., because less people will be buying new hardware. I bet intel, amd and nvidia would team up and secretly fund the piracy. then people would switch to consoles, and that would be the end of pc gaming.
Why would people switch to consoles? It is not like games are free on consoles. “Intel, AMD, Nvidia funding piracy” Lol, how stupid can you get. The only people ending the PC gaming are thieves like you – by not buying games you make it not worth it for developers.
a lot of pc pirates buying expensive hardware. just look at the ratio of gpus/games sold.
So PC pirates would need to start paying for games if there’s no way to pirate or stop playing them. If you can afford expensive hardware, you can afford games, as simple as that.
they would switch to consoles, because it’s possible to share disc based games. you would pretty much loose nothing after beating the game in a couple of days, and then selling it down the road.
Not everyone is a stupid thief who would need to downgrade to peasant console to continue to afford quality gaming which is possible only on PC. And you lose on used games, nobody buys them for full price.
“more regions with adjusted pricing at digital stores (to stop things like Eastern Europe gets Western prices despite having way less income) and return of demos to try out games.”
yup But we live in a world that ubisoft leaves steam because they dont let them overcharge in UK.
plz with all the pirating black market sites like g2a,kinguin, and gmg the game industry
would collapse..lol.the pc is just a bunch of thieves and out to screw over publishers when they use black market cd kety sites…..PLEASE.
YEEESSS! FINALY PIRATES ARE STARTED GETTING DEFEATED!! YEEEEEEEESSSSS
wrong..lol
Remember all those incredible mods and user made patches that require .exe modifications? Remember all those games that became abandonware and required a modified .exe to run on modern PCs?
All that will dissappear if this article proves right, don’t get fooled into believing Denuvo is good in any way to the consumer.
This is not a good news… Denuvo is going to kill PC Games.
Also breaking them.
Sweet! Video game piracy needs to go the way of Ebola.
In an ideal world huge organizations like the EU would never form. There is nothing ideal about huge organizations.
The EU had its uses for a long time. It was until recent years in a unique position to cut through all the individual bullsh*t of the various European Governments & hold them all collectively to higher standards with its tighter regulations which were by & large in Europe’s collective interest, rather than the individual member States’ personal interests.
Unfortunately in recent years Brussels’ agenda has indeed shifted towards personal power & bullying everyone into submission, coupled with a ridiculously stupid “expand & conquer” mentality instead of keeping Europe’s best interests in focus, yeah. Fortunately that’s quite likely to end up costing them heavily in the next round of elections.
Most of the countries in EU heck the eurozone do not even fullfill the requirements, so on that list you could add corrupt and careless.
Exactly, the Eurozone has become badly bloated, & the Member States list is even worse. It’s ridiculous.
It is a expand and conquer policy, some of those countries you never heard while bigger ones you have heard are staying the heck out.
Just search for repack to find the pirated Denuvo protected games…
I will continue to not buy any game with Denuvo. It’s bad enough you can’t avoid Steam these days. But I’m a human being, not an animal. You can’t make me pay for new, worse DRM nonsense. What am I paying for? That noone gets the game for free? I don’t benefit from that. I don’t benefit from DRM, period. DRM is a net loss for consumers and always has been. If you’re pro-DRM you’ve failed to grasp your role in capitalism. The consumer’s interests can be summed up as low price, high quality. DRM serves the exact opposite goal. DRM makes games worse and more expensive all at the same time. How do you think they pay for DRM? With your money. Your money is being invested in a better DRM instead of a better GAME. And better DRM means worse, more expensive game. With DRM you’re literally paying more to get less.
doesnt Denuvo mess up ssd’s?
MSG5 and Mad max were Denuvo? I’m pretty sure both of those were cracked day one. anyways, i got more than enough games in my backloggery to complete, by the time i’m done ill be able to buy JC3 off of steam for $1.49
Nope they are still not fully cracked.
Mad Max is. MGSV have some minor crashes in prologue and ending(just see those on youtube).
well its not like i care but last time i checked pirates said it crashed when you opened the map. I have no interest in mad max.
Played from start to finish. Only got some minor bugs and crashes.
Is the main quest as repetitive as the open world?
Main quest have more scripts, so no. Hard to find free roaming games that doesn’t have repetitive things to do.
Granted I haven’t actually seen the coding myself, but wow, people have already forgotten it took more than 6 months to crack Lords of the Fallen? It’s been barely a month since Just Cause 3 launched, it’ll take some time.
Regardless of how long it takes, it’s inevitable that it’ll happen in the end, & it’s inevitable that even 8, 10, 12 months Post-Launch it’ll still get a ridiculous amount of downloads the day it goes up.
This is good though. For more than a decade now Publishers have been screaming about Piracy crushing the life out of them, but that argument’s been contingent on the Scene cracking & distributing Games sometimes before they’re even commercially available. What happens to Just Cause 3’s sales when you can’t Pirate it for 6+ months, though? Is it suddenly going to experience a massive sales dip the moment it becomes available through Torrents? Or a sales boost? Or maybe nothing at all will change?
Even more interesting, envision this; what if Call of Duty/Assassin’s Creed/other picks up Denuvo next year, & it doesn’t get cracked for 6+ months? Is Activision/Ubisoft/other actually going to experience that mythical “sales boost” from a Piracy-free launch, after all? Or is the bubble finally going to burst on those delusional f*cktards?
Either way, they’ll never admit it to us, but it won’t stop the data from violating them in that special no-no place. Hard. Repeatedly. After all;
It will probably not boost sales because there are thousands of free games out there. Can’t beat free.
I like how there are idiots outhere that believe the reason games are expensive and they keep making a crapton of dlcs and now microtransactions is piracy.
I wonder if those business practises will disapear with no piracy…doubtful they are just greedy.
Starforce 3.0 took the longest to crack, 424 days. Has denuvo even reached half that time?
What challenge moron? That guy defends the worst companies for years. There is no point talking to that “b*tch” because he goes around in circles trolling. It is pointless, everyone who has been here a while knows this, apart from you.
Calling me a b*tch won’t get you anywhere unless you learn to have a proper conversation instead of coming across as a poor uneducated fool. If you explain the context in which I have defended the “worst company omg”, I’ll gladly clear my stance. Till then you’re a trivial nuisance.
He called me a b*tch and i am well familiar of the way you go around in circles so i will not participate in your nonsense.
“Till then you’re a trivial nuisance.”
Yeah i liked that trivial part that you got mad and start saying MMHHHKAYYY?
Get over yourself clown.
Me mad? Mmkay.
Mmkaay
You need to use your brain moron. Denuvo constantly upgrades and each time is harder. Fifa 2014 was easilly cracked, 2015 and lords of the fallen took a long time. Arkham knight is cracked for one version which means no patching or dlcs. Mgs v has crashes and works in specific systems only. Plus it needs china time change. So does mad max. Just cause remains uncrackable.
So no it hasn’t been cracked, because it is not one kind of thing. It constantly updates and evolves.
These people are unbelievable always jumping around in circles try to defend their mistake.
guerrilla had the decency to get rid of windows live, now i cant say the same for the likes of ea in the future.
actually he is right on that it is piracy not stealing stealing means something is taken.
Okay, it is not technically stealing. But you are still a thief because you do not pay company for their product. There is no way around that. So it is not only copying like many pirates want to excuse it.
I dont think pirates call it copying.
yeah but the biggest enemy is the online check that randomly decides to pause the game to re connect.
That is their only excuse to have DRM in the game
cracked by the same guy and in order to work you need a new cpu, because he cracked the first version, it crashes on prologue and needs to change timezone to china.
So long story short the guy who cracked mgs v is telling you he cant beat this.
Sorry to dissapoint moron but wherver it is crackable, uncrackable, always online, console port, pc exlusive with a later console port. Or sells amazingly well yet has microtransactions the reality is the same.
Makes money?
MILK IT.
Which means more platforms, wider audience, dlcs, microtransactions and so fourth,.
If you think that without piracy, you will magically get more AAA exlusives, you are a gigantic moron.
Also the opposite is happening more games are ported to pc than leaving pc.
” As somone who buys nice high end hardware that I want to see developers take advantage”
Cant happen wont happen, the game needs to sell on non high end rigs and to e on ocnsoles.
” why console gaming gets all the attention and why so many consolised sh1tty ports to PC happens simply because too many A-holes buy decent PC hardware only to torrent all their games while calling console gamers peasants.”
Nope, no matter what you do fallout will continue to be dumbed down and turned into a casual console games. It has nothing to do with piracy. It has to do with greed.
Just like wasteland 2 was ported on consoles.
Yes okay you are right, PC gaming does not suffer from piracy in any way shape or form and I must just be imagining all the support PC got before all the torrent sites sprang up online. I must be imagining all those years where PC was the lead platform , sure…
Why you have to jump to absolutes?
Also a few years ago pc gaming was a mess, not because of piracy but because of bad service, they fixed it and the sales improved.
Piracy nowdays is meaningless since most countries check what sites you visit.
Ill say it again because you are an idiot.
Wasteland 2, pc exlusive kickstarted, cursor based game that you can type stuff, gets a console release. Tomb raider 2, xbone timed exlusivity, microtransactions, possibly win10 requirement. Not piracy, GREED!!!
Meanwhile sanctum 2 console sales didnt even justify the port, piracy is irrelevant.
Ideal for introducing changes. If people want change they should ignore the offending products, not obtain them illegally anyway.
Getting sick of Denuvo advertisements.
funny thing is both dsog and s**taku wrote the exact same clickbait article at the same time. it’s a pure denuvo ad.
First and foremost, it’s only really two piracy groups that are trying to break denuvo (3dm and cpy)
If more publishers and developers opt to use denuvo, then more groups will start to crack it. Right now only a handful of game use Denuvo so it really isn’t a priority for crackers.
Also, very few people who pirate a game will want to buy it if they can’t get for free.
Denuvo has already been cracked lords of the fallen,dragon inq, no one cares about fifa.
this
Its time to sell my GPU before more newer game uncrackable.
what an awful article. celebrating an anti consumer act is disgusting.
by the way, this s**ty drm didn’t help even one game to sell better. MGSV sold almost the same as MGSVGZ, an overpriced demo without denuvo vs. a full open world game which was hyped to death. funny thing is all the denuvo games are just junk or broken. and please stop shilling for EA and denuvo dsogaming. JC3 is both broken and just bad, it won’t even worth the time to crack. lol.
“And no; Denuvo does not cause slowdowns”
still no one can prove it until they manage to completely remove denuvo and test it with and without it.
lol, witcher 3 sold more than all of those over hyped denuvo craps that released last year combined.
by the way, want JC3’s multiplayer mod ? well here is the problem:
“During that we have also identified a major problem which is currently
limiting us in the ability to debug our code while running in the game.
This is caused by DENUVO, the anti-tampering solution used in the game.
We are working hard to figure out a way to be able to debug the game,
but this is probably going to take some more time.”
“At the moment we are working on spawning entities and bypassing DENUVO completely in order to debug properly.”
community.nanos…io/index.php?/topic/34-development-blog-week-1/
anti consumer s**t which also have a negative impact on modding.
if a game isnt made for multiplayer it shouldnt be multiplayer.kid
f**k off re*rad, come back when you learned the basic concept of modding. i know it’s hard for a peasant xboner like you to get this stuff, i guess it’s best you shut the f**k up.
I personally think Denuvo is fine, I don’t think its uncrackable. It takes longer to crack than the usual rubble and that’s fair, the developers get a slight advantage when it comes to the sale of their game for the first few months. But then again modding. .., they probably have to personally provide tools in that case.
I am not rich person by any means. If most people did not give a shif abou framerate, nobody would buy expensive hardware and play on PC.
people playing on pc, because it’s less expensive, for now that is..
I play on PC because it gives me better experience and it is worth it and I can afford it.
LOL, you westerners have it so easy.
I am not even westerner. But I can describe things how they are. Maybe your twisted views are result of living poor in poor country, but that does not make difference in the end.
the title says “Denuvo Is Successfully Protecting Games” denvuvo has been cracked so how is it Successfully Protecting Games.i can go donload lords of the fallen from a torrent site if i want to.use some common sense.
Pirated Games May No Longer Exist In Two Years?thats like saying pc gamers wont use black market cd keys sites in to years..lol yea right.
learn the difference as*hole. they are black market cd keys on consoles too, yeah bloodborne for 6$, and they are legit 3rd party cd key sellers as well.
ComputerLand is telling you about the game codes, not the Steam Wallet codes. Ask them about “Steam Wallet codes” that allow you to put money into your Steam account, not the codes which can activate games.
You can get Steam Wallet codes that start from 5$, which is about 560 Dinars. There are denominations of 5$, 10$, 20$, 50$. You can start small and see how that works. Try and ask ComputerLand (or GameShop) if they can get you the codes for the 5$ or 10$ ones.
If nothing works, get the international debit card from either of the banks I mentioned, and I can give you a list of multiple retailers that sell Steam Wallet codes via email for very cheap. You can then use the money deposited into you Steam account to buy games during sales.
Now this is useful info, i am saving it on a text document. The only problem is that this Serbian translation you found states that there are no Wallet Codes for sale in Serbia and that people get them abroad and then sell them here for 50% higher prices.
“Mana je sto wallet code nema da se kupi u srbiji, pa vecina sto prodaju kod nas preprodaju sto neko drugi preprodaje 🙂 npr neko u innostranstvu kupi u prodavnici, pa onda neko od nasih kupi od njih, pa onda prodaje ovde, i wallet kod od 20$ ne kosta 20$, nego kosta oko 30$ sto je za 50% vece od prave cene.”
Yes, that’s why an international debit card (or credit card if you can manage) is helpful in order to buy the wallet codes directly from international resellers. You should check with your local bank regarding the facilities they provide for internet transactions, as stated in the information piece I posted above. From what I understand, some banks in Serbia provide credit (or debit?) cards to even minors without any proof of income. At least that’s what I got from the translation.
learn about the word “mod” and then we talk. idiot. looks like you have 0 idea what mod is and what it means.
learn what a single player game means.if the devs wanted it to have multiplayer in it they would have done it.i hope it doesnt work because of Denuvo.Denuvo games may kill mods because of the anti tampering.look at the other Denuvo games i dont think they are modded at all.
if all games adopt Denuvo it could kill mode.modding is tampering right?
“learn what a single player game means”
learn what modding means. JC2 was a singleplayer game as well and it had a multiplayer mod. i don’t care about loluvo games, i don’t buy them, modded or not. the rest i agree.
jc2 didnt use Denuvo and it was a mod not from the devs jc2 is a single player games which means just you play since you didnt know.i told you.
are you even trying ? i just said mods “multiplayer mod” and you are saying it was a mod ? no s**t ? wow
Not sure who’s this Bird Sister, but he’s basically advertising Denuvo right now, not to say that this statement is complete boolsheet.
No free games means that in 2 years every game will be using Denuvo or more sophisticated DRM system, which is simply impossible. Not to say that it also means that GOG will magically disappear or go bankrupt, which is also won’t happen anytime soon. Not to say that there DRM-Free games on Steam too, which can be launched via .exe bypassing Steam.
funny thing is the most successful (profit) and actually the best games of 2015 all were drm free games. it’s just an ad and it’s on almost all the games related sites, slow news month.
here you go games already cracked with Denuvo
mad max cracked
batman arkham knight cracked
lords of the fallen cracked
mgs5 cracked
dragon age inq cracked
battlefield hardline cracked
no one cares about fifa.
denuvo
Denuvo Is Successfully Protecting Games, Pirated Games May No Longer Exist In Two Years my as* it just takes time.
I have read in many forums that denuvo ( or DRM ) The ruins of the PC hardware ; in fact, the DRM provides a continuous reading / writing of data between RAM and the hard disk in operations of encryption and decryption , which translate into numbers around 150 000 iterations per hour , about 10,000 more than normal, inevitably impairing the life cycle of the ‘ HDD and SSDs , not counting the numerous damages burdening the CPU.
Therefore, I ask to think about using Denuvo , as if a ” house ” is confident of its success ( see ” Fallout 4 ” and ” The Witcher 3 ” that without such protection have held true record ) , it does not need the DRM .
Also decrease sales not only of Nvidia and ATI , but also the rest of ‘ Hardware gaming , as the latter will be destroyed.
Can’t speak for the current version since Mad Max ran rather well, but the earlier versions of Denuvo did in fact have a negative impact on some computer systems, not the games. Possibly they have corrected that issue, but it certainly wasn’t always safe to run, despite claims to the contrary (which only came from the company that made it).
3DM was paid to stop cracking Denuvo, because they had it figured out, just look at how fast games with it were starting to be cracked. Suddenly its crack-proof. Highly doubtful, again 3DM was just given a reason to stop.
Denuvo is not DRM. IT has nothing at all to do with Digital Rights. It simply stops tampering with the .exe
Its still bad for the pirates no matter how you look at it.
If you have an i5 or an i3, you can play Wii and GameCube games flawlessly through dolphin emulator.The two mentioned consoles have tons of fascinating games that can make you busy till some genius cracker can find a solution for that thing called denuvohooohoho.
Yes, Denuvo does cause slowdowns. EVERY game with Denuvo got fps drops.
It’s over, they not stop releasing games with denuvo, i will not give any cent, then will learn how to respect us.