It appears that Deep Learning Super Sampling, or best known as DLSS, will be coming to Battlefield 5. This information comes straight from NVIDIA’s own slides regarding its upcoming graphics card, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX2060, in which the green team revealed some interesting performance numbers.
First things first. NVIDIA RTX owners will be able to enable both RTX and DLSS at the same time. A lot of gamers have been wondering whether such a thing would be possible and according to the green team it actually is. Whether other games that support real-time ray tracing effects will add support for DLSS remains a mystery though.
According to NVIDIA, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 is able to run Battlefield 5 with an average of 90fps with RTX disabled and with an average of 88fps with both RTX and DLSS enabled. Without DLSS – but with RTX enabled – the RTX2060 can push an average of 65fps. What’s also interesting here is that, contrary to Final Fantasy XV which only supports DLSS in 4K, Battlefield 5 will support DLSS in 1080p (we assume when RTX effects are enabled?).
If these figures are legit and if DLSS does as a good as job as it does in Final Fantasy XV, real-time ray tracing will be possible on multiple GPUs in Battlefield 5. Not only that, but we expect the RTX2080Ti to provide playable framerates in multiple games that use RTX+DLSS in modern resolutions like 1440p. Battlefield 5 uses real-time ray tracing for its reflections so, in our opinion, the combination of DLSS and RTX will be crucial in other games that use ray tracing for more complex effects, like Global Illumination, Shadows and Ambient Occlusion. In other words, DLSS+RTX could do – theoretically – wonders in games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Metro Exodus.
Stay tuned for more!
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DLSS is upscaling. So in order to work in 1080p, would it not have to upscale from 720p?
According to theory, yes, that’s how DLSS actually works, but I think there is more to this based on the recently leaked Nvidia slides.
Because it seems, in addition to standard DLSS technique, there is a second mode, called DLSS 2X. For 1080p they might use DLSS 2X instead.
In this mode, DLSS input is actually rendered at the final target native resolution instead, and then it is combined by a larger neural network to produce an output image that approaches the quality level of a 64x super sample rendering, which would have been impossible to achieve in real time, using traditional methods.
In my opinion, for 1080p, I think we would be needing tons of AA, so this DLSS 2X mode might be ideal, if this is how NVIDIA and BFV DEVs have coded it, though it’s hard to comment on the performance impact, which can’t be overlooked.
Hopefully DLSS 2x should give some nice AA quality, without too much performance impact because the tensor cores are doing the work. Else, we have to use the standard DLSS mode to upscale to a higher resolution, from 720p.
Kindly wait for actual reviews to come out, before coming to any conclusion with regards to BFV’s DLSS capabilities, at least for the 1080p resolution.
It’s also possible that DLSS involves a mix of upscaling, anti-aliasing, and filling in mixing pixels.
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Stop talking for awhile. Sit out the next few plays.
DLSS 2x is just super sampling paired with DLS, so you would actually lose performance. I don’t see it being used much…
This is how Nvidia will make people feel the RTX 2060 is worth it… Cutting down visual quality using DLSS.
You can’t buy into something you can’t afford. In that regard you have my condolences.
why not start your own youtube channel or website?
Dude, you never fail to impress me, lol. Keep up the good work. :d
ps: you can be a good moderator/editor over here tho.
@John, some Off Topic news.
The Schall Law Firm Announces the Filing of a Class Action Lawsuit Against NVIDIA Corporation Encourages Investors with Losses in Excess of $100,000 to Contact the Firm…
https://www.techpowerup.com/251095/nvidia-faces-new-class-action-lawsuit-over-cryptocurrency-related-gpu-demand-drop
https://schallfirm.com/cases/nvidia-corporation/
This is how Nvidia will make people feel the RTX 2060 is worth it… Cutting down visual quality using DLSS.
The feature we’ve all been waiting for, upscaling…
Nvidia: The Way It’s Meant To Be
PlayedPaid.Jen-Hsun Huang: “The more you buy, the more I’ll put the prices up the next time we launch new series…!”
#nvidiaisthenewapple
I recently upgraded to an iPhone XR so know that feeling well, lol!
You consider an iPhone XR an “upgraded”!? No wonder you morons are turning this site into an RTX whine fest, get a job instead of whining, hippies.
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You again ??
I mean, just look at your profile picture for all the information needed on your personality…
Are you inferring that I’m a very elderly Jewish man?
He’s inadvertently achieved the minor miracle of uniting us in agreement on something!
However, he’s not far from the truth re: PC Gamer.
1930’s crook?.
Are you a secrete recluse history nerd, or a child?.
Is there any sort of Moderation done over at PCGamer though (unlike here) ?
I don’t browse their comment section, so I’m not that much familiar with this website.
More than here, but you can still get away with quite a bit until you catch the attention of their mods. I have fond memories of debating Andy Chalk (resident PCGamer SJW writer) into a corner over there.
why trolling? If u dont like john’s articles, simply go elsewhere!
Because, even after what must be his third or fourth name-change, he’s still extremely butthurt following John’s rejection of him! ?
His mental illness projection onto John is so cringe
Hey, but why did you upvote his Meme pic though ? 😀
Because, unlike some here, I upvote comments based on their individual merit rather than prejudice in relation to who’s posted it.
Hmmm….Makes sense….
“speeeeerm”
Mate, we’re all adults here, you can just say j*zz.
You’re not trying to be a jerk, but, in our opinion, you’re kind of being a jerk.
Deep learning upscaling is really insane, people are using AI for upscaling PS1 games, and it’s like magic:
https://i.imgur.com/VGJmjFr.gifv
I find it hilarious when people dismiss DLSS because “it’s just upscaling”.
For games that feature a complex noisy aesthetic instead of a simplified/cartoony aesthetic, the AI upscaling method is pretty bad.
Your news need updating my friend, there has been a dozen or so of great AI upscalers in the last couple of years alone that work very well on real/high frequency images, like this one for example:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1812.04240.pdf
Original clearly looks TONS better than the upscaled one. The original image contains tons of heavy grain, which is really iconic for how Fallout looks. Fallout does not look like Fallout without all that colored grain everywhere. I also love the hints of green and brown in the original image, which are missing from the upscaled image. The upscaled image looks farrr too clean, missing all the amazing noise and making things look like a recent internet browser game. Also, whazzup with the face in the upscaled image? The face of the character? Does THAT look like a face to you? I much prefer how the face looks in the original image.
The only thing that I like about the upscaled image is the interface at the bottom. I do see that the rest of the image is sharper and cleaner too, but it simply looks inferior to me, for the reasons outlined above.
+1
It simply does not look impressive at all. The green and brown hints everywhere are quite iconic to the art-style of Fallout. They are supposed to be there, it’s a post-apocalyptic world where everything is damaged and rusty. If fallout was made with “16 bit colours” (more on that below) from the start, it would still have had all the browns and greens, and they would probably have gone for a noisy look, cause it’s the apocalypse after all. You do not want a clean, shiny new look for the apocalypse. As if everything has been washed clean the day before, and is new and shiny.
Btw, Fallout is a game from 1997 and it’s not an 8-bit game at all. 8-bit Video games are all quite a bit older. Do you just want to troll everyone here? Seems like it.
Keep my expectations reasonable regarding the face? The new face is quite a downgrade not? The original face looks perfectly fine to me. It actually looks like a face.
The upscaling is simply not an improvement. Maybe it will work really nice for other games, but not for this game. In that very weird upscaling you lose nearly everything which is iconic for Fallout’s artstyle.
This Paul86 is a total psycho kid. Always writes gibberish nonsense, and tries to comment as if he is some tech expert.
His previous original account was “Luckynumber8”. Created this new one, just to troll on Dsog. None of his comments are worthy of giving a read. He is a lunatic/moron.
Just put on ignore.
“I find it hilarious when people dismiss DLSS”
I find it hilarious that you shill for Nvidia in pretty much every Nvidia-related thread here at DSOG while also invariably whining about how “terrible” you think DSOG is!
Jen-Hsun Haaa, indeed. ?
Well put, lol.
DSOG is awesome, unfortunately, its community like you is utter sh*t, it’s youtube comment level or worse.
If a company pushes the boundary in technology, you bet your whinyass I’ll “shill” for them, you just keep whining about the price.
damn, someone sounds butthurt. Hate to break it to you but “youtube level” just means baseline internet, as in normal people talking without censorship. What you consider sh*t is just real life outside of your safe space censorsed “news” sites like Kotaku or PCGamer.
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I disagree, anything toxic here are shills. just like you.
Well said. About the only things surrounding gaming culture to be truly ‘toxic’ are the legions of wilfully blind and ignorant fanboy shills and, of course, SJWs. Jen-Hsun Haaa has exhibited traits of both.
Bub&Bob i just add you to my blocked list on disqus for stupidity.
Can I ask where these slides are (or even that you link it in the article)as they are not linked in the article and not on the other 2060 article either.
Oh, so you are back with another account, just to TROLL…..smh…..
edit: he is deleting comments, and again changing his user name/avatar…sigh.
One thing I’ve noticed is a lack of respect towards users with new accounts. We all started somewhere, and to disregard my willingness to communicate with others in an open online forum is not only disgusting, but ultimately unwarranted in the current year, and well into 2019.
DLSS looks like FXAA on steroids, super smudged and blurry at least in FF15. You would be better off playing at native 1440p with no AA, much more crisp and detailed.
And much more aliased.
Deep Learning Super Microtransactions
Oh no.
You told me .
Oh mah life
I’ve seen some terribly “moderated” comment sections in sites, but as terrible as this site, I’ve never seen. Trolls run wild, almost more than normal reader, and attaching a freaking image or a video related to the article is rejected automatically until manually approved hours and hours later, truly a pleasant place to have a discussion.
As Vergil said, you can upload pics without having to go through moderation. Just click on the far right icon in the comment box and upload it.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/680142aa7095a76fc02d14cc2ea7890115c5616d7dda715fa3ce90582dd97c27.jpg FYI download the img and upload directly to disqus and you have no problem with them, now vidoes on the other hand i’m afraid is not possible.
I was trying to link to an mp4 file, but even linking to a scientific paper was flagged, it’s a pretty stupid policy.
Allow media, and appoint trustworthy frequenters as moderators, this is standard practice in almost every site, forum, and massage board out there for decades, it’s not rocket science.
You sound like a communist dictator
He’s a proper little Napolean.
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
A mantra common to jumped up self-important wannabe dictators of various persuasions be that communist, fascist or SJW.
Links have to go through a moderator, even links to other DSOG articles. That seems odd but possibly Disqus doesn’t provide an exception list so it’s either let all links be posted directly or all links have to go through a moderator.
John said a while back that he stopped allowing links to be posted without going through a moderator because he had a problem with spammers. Spammers don’t bother with trying to use a site this way.
Less spam is a good thing for all of us.
Spammers can utterly ruin a forum or comment section. I have seen that happen. I used to use a site called gpureview for GPU info up until 3 years ago and the owner allowed posting links without going through a moderator. Spammers started sending waves of bots to spam the forum constantly.
Every day there were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of spams with links. The forum became unusable. No one could communicate because of it. Most people just stopped coming.
There was a moderator there every day but by the time he would get on there the forum was a complete mess. One day he was multi-deleting spam and something went wrong with the software that only the owner could fix and it completely shut down the forum and he’s never been back for some reason so even the moderator stopped bothering to update the GPU data base.
Don’t try to reason with people like him. Just let the site turn into the alt-right circle jerk they want it to be – I can only hope John will feel some disappointment or regret for what he’s allowed to happen to this place.
Your factually incorrect virtue signalling nonsense and stalking behaviour continues. gg
Where have I virtue signaled? I’m serious, provide me even one example. I’m not sure you even know what it means, honestly. Am I not allowed to comment in the same section as you anymore without being a stalker? Or is it just that you don’t like what I’m saying and are desperately grasping for straws?
lmao, i can only imagine the rytardedness of what a site moderated by you would look like
He likes PC Gamer aka Soyboy Central. Nuff said!
There are no moderators for comment section here.There was a voting before last year if i am not mistaken and the majority vote for complete freedom of speech..
There are no moderators for comment section here.There was a voting before 1 year if iam not mistaken and the majority vote for complete freedom of speech..
I like how all the people with gaming avatars act like complete loser jocks, who feel like pu**y is the only thing that truly matters in this world, as well as acting as some petty childish “status” symbol.
I think all jocks should be put to the block, less a**holes is better for this world at the end of the day.
As the internet saying goes “talk sh*t, get hit”.
Not like it’ll matter much, for a game that’s sold so poorly and isn’t anything of a technical marvel. I’ve seen better tech from a game like SC, that’s still in it’s dev cycle.
New years and already acting as cocky as ever.
Nice try, but humanity matters more than underused, underdeveloped tech.
So EA DICE are offering “Deep Learning” to remedy being “uneducated”. /s
Modern day republicans= Alex jones idiots
stop watching fox news and alex jones and then we can talk about your tumor theory
sounds like more bs from nvidia….lol.
@JOHN,
Give this is read. It’s off topic, but this sounds kind of interesting. It seems some users have enabled RTX mode on a Nvidia Titan V, which actually lacks RT cores !
Guru3D posted one article on this. It’s related to BFV as well. Have a peek.
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-titan-v-raytraces-battelfield-v-in-rtx-mode-at-proper-perf-(but-does-not-have-any-rt-cores).html
So true.
Liberals are modern variation of the Eunuchs.