In an interview with Bloomberg, Todd Howard claimed that Bethesda has optimized Starfield for PC, and that PC gamers may need to upgrade their PCs in order to enjoy it.
Bloomberg audience Q: Why did you not optimize Starfield for PC?
Todd Howard: we did… you might need to upgrade your PCFull interview: https://t.co/TFEVMv9AXZ pic.twitter.com/3o1eS1iJSG
— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) September 7, 2023
As Todd Howard said when asked why Bethesda hasn’t optimized Starfield for PC.
“We did, it’s running great. It’s a next-gen PC game. We really push the technology so you may need to upgrade your PC for this game but it’s got a lot of great stuff going on in there and the fans’ response is awesome.”
Starfield does not feature any Ray Tracing effects so I don’t know how the game is pushing the technology. To its credit, Starfield has a great LOD system. However, the game’s graphics are inconsistent. In some scenes, it can look great and in other scenes, it can look really bad.
Starfield has trouble running with 60fps in 4K even on an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. Additionally, the performance gains when lowering the in-game settings are minimal. Not only that but the game lacks native support for NVIDIA DLSS 3 and Intel XeSS. So yeah, contrary to what Howard says, the game does actually have some optimization issues. And I don’t want to be the one pointing out, but I don’t really see anything next-gen-ish in Starfield. Ironically, Star Citizen, a game that is actually pushing the graphical boundaries of PC graphics, looks and runs better than Starfield, even in its current beta phase.
As we wrote in our PC Performance Analysis.
“Starfield is a mixed bag. On one hand, we were really impressed by the CPU multithreading capabilities of the Creation Engine 2. However, especially for older CPUs, the game would greatly benefit from DLSS 3. Yes, there is a DLSS 3 mod but it’s a f’king paid mod. Then there is FSR 2.0 which is the only available upscaling technique. Ironically, FSR 2.0 looks worse than XeSS or DLSS 2. And while Starfield runs great on AMD’s hardware, its performance on NVIDIA’s GPUs is horrible.
Bethesda’s collaboration with AMD had actually a negative effect on the quality of the PC version. The game is missing a lot of graphics/display settings, and it looks washed out. Bethesda should further optimize Starfield via post-launch updates to improve overall performance. Or at least the team should make the game scale on older GPUs.”
Let’s hope that Todd’s comments won’t mean a complete lack of PC performance patches. Oh, who am I kidding? That’s exactly what Howard implied so don’t expect any major optimization improvements!
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No DLSS, no FOV Slider, no Ultra Widescreen support, poor quality lighting, awful character designs, needing a HIGH end CPU when the graphics just don’t match. ( Mods are fixing your OPTIMIZED game )
But at least there’s pronouns.
16x the pronouns
and once you dive into it there’s lots more of the agenda all over. Also character creator really only makes androgynous characters, just not the options to do more than freaks or trandys. Always features forms of obelisks too etc
I would think they would have fixed obesity in the future but guess not, according to Crapthesda/Microsoft.
immediately the generate character is a colored hair frog
exactly. Bethesda does the easy stuff.
the woke sht continues, westernism at it’s best.
the woke sht continues, westernism at it’s best.
THANK GOD for the pronouns! At least I can be happy and keep living in my mentally ill bubble expecting everyone to address my made up identity.
Uh it has ultrawide?
what do you think they are???? 4a games????
have you ever seen what happens to games made with creation engine , when you unlock ultrawide or fps ? the engine goes bonkers. they should stop being lazzy
No 10bit color rendering no HDR !
And they say they wanted to release it last year but delayed it to work on it more after Microsoft’s acquisition. A release in 2022 would have been so much worse.
And don’t forget thousands of hideously ugly bantus.
And don’t forget thousands of hideously ugly bantus.
Selling best on steam like forever. People don’t care the turd is smelly.
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This POS garbage trash has the decades old near field and far field light source popping in and out (which was seen back in Half Life 2 and probably had been patched out). I would prefer looking at a trashcan for hours rather than looking at those ugly and awful characters.
Bloomberg audience Q: Why did you not optimize Starfield for PC?
Todd Howard: “we did” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b150c5ed13da33158a10e79ecd14c815fceef648510976aa007521fa9c54ba01.jpg
Phil Spencer ” LOL
Obviously Phil doesn’t agree haha
There’s a delay for when the audio reaches the interviewees. He’s actually laughing at the question.
*4090 can’t get 60fps at 4K
*Game caps out at 115fps
Must be people’s PCs
wait, does the game really cap at 115 fps? WTF LOL
Yup at like 468p the most a 4090 (god tier) gpu can get is 115fps.
for a game made mostly from loading screens , it don’t worth the space on my SSD !
the max fps cap is 165 fps, you can uncap it using a custom ini. maybe you have vsync turned on
The 115 fps is probably a CPU and/or memory bandwidth bottleneck. This game is poorly optimized all around.
Yeah maybe it was that specific spot. I’ve had mine go up to 117 in one spot.
what if you unlock will it go bonkers like skyrim??? should be hilarious !
There’s actually a mod that uncaps the framerate in Skyrim, but dunno the game seems also poorly optimized.
my gtx 1080ti ampere extreme , even in the lowest settings struggles to maintain above 40 fps, but Bg3 , dead island 2,hogwarts legacy with everything or almost everything maxed still delivers on those games up to 60fps…Bethesda is just lazy
Is nvidia reflex cap on my monitor 4k 144hz run at 140fps
It’s a steal!
Todd Howard: We did, just buy 5090 for $2500 when its out in 2025!
Take out home insurance too for the guaranteed fire risk.
That’s if the GPU actually gets used fully. Just limit fps to 30 and the fire risk will be gone. 😂
out of all the lies this man has said this is by far the worst, every person who does benchmakrs says its unoptimized.
“you might need to upgrade your pc”
you can make that argument for old hardware but you need a card that was more expensive than a new xbox to just run the thing and 3 times as expensive pc to run like the xbox. You can say “get a ssd already” but that doesnt change the fact there are no texture settings and most the graphics settings do nothing in terms of performance or difference.
Microsoft clowns at their best circus show!
The reason why Todd should leave and join Raja Khaduri’s startup.
The reason why I’m voting with my wallet.
Classic modern gaming quote
” You need to upgrade your pc “
Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing enabled run better than starfield while looking better(even without ray tracing)
So he should go f*ck himself
Also has better npc behaviour
Well he wouldn’t be Todd “Tell Me Lies” Howard if he was honest now, would he? “Sixteen times the fibs!”
To be fair that was kind of a dumb question. Some specifics may have gotten a more serious answer.
Could be better elaborated, but his answer is still bs regardless.
Next Space RPG from Microsoft -> Obsidian’s Outer Worlds 2
If given proper budget and decent dev time … might turn out great …
did you play the first outer soy worlds? It was mediocre.
limited budget
budget wasnt the problem with that game, obsidian was.
that “we did part” was his way of saying that we don’t know what we were doing and just throw some money at it it may get better for you. and yes having a loading time for every building and getting CPU limited with a11700 below 60fps while rendering 20 standing NPCs and awful animations are a part of the charm and also f*k you plus (inserting mom jokes) for asking
Johns article that 4090 is a value card went down the drain. We need 6090 now 4000 value for money.
It´s ok. Modders will keep fixing the game for us for free. And you will buy the Premium Deluxe Ultimate Edition of our next game for 400$ so you can play it 3 days pre release. Don´t forget to defend us from any critic online because we inserted woke. F you and have a bad day
With Skyrim and Fallout 4, they made games that look like crap but ran decently. This time they went for a decent looking game, but it runs like crap. Progress!
some of the npcs are nightmare fuel
Fallout 4 had fps drops in certain areas.
Skyrim looked good for 2011, great art design that still looks good today.
Too bad it’s as deep as a puddle.
-7 years of development
-one year delay
-still a buggy mess compared to other games
-people only praising it because it’s better than Fallout 76
-you can actually start the game
-bricks your PC
-same engine since 2006
-graphics already outdated
-make sure you have the RTX 4080 or it wont run well
-capped at 30 fps on a barely three old years consoles
-company still can’t (or want) optimize their games
-no facial expressions
-“Starefield ”
-10 guns in the entire game
-same gameplay loop since early 2000
-engine was already outdated 10 years ago
-basically Call of duty you just have to wait longer between releases .
-10 voice actors for every characters
-“It just works”
-the most boring setting without any new ideas or innovations
-Stolen gameplay from No Man’s Sky just made worse
-can’t manually land on planets
-can’t manually take off from planets
-same dungeon/cave/house layout on every planet
-same enemy placement on every planet
-same treasure placement on every planet
-can’t even walk around a planet because you’ll hit an invisible wall
-games are only popular because of the fanboys community , not the quality
-their sources code is so sh*t a teenager can make mods for it
-community would rather they don’t update their games but instead download the community patch
-“Bro, it really cool to just download this pack of 280 Mods”
-16 times the detail…….
-10 DLCs that add stuff that mods added years ago
-pink paint armor for just 5 Bucks
-anniversary edition with all DLCs in 2033
-Galaxy edition in 2040 with all DLCs plus fishing
-people get mad if you say it’s a 7/10 game at best
-biggest game yet
-open world but still tens of loading screens in-between locations
-can’t seamlessly enter a house in 2023
-fast travel put you outside of a house so you have to go through another loading screen
-no good game for the past 12 years
-people never change
I HOPE YOU DIDN’T BUY A GAME MADE BY THE PEOPLES WHO MADE FALLOUT 76
Az from the YouTube Channel “HeelvsBabyFace” say it best !
i’ll translate to you all :
Todd Howard : F*** you PC gamers !
Dumb question. Should’ve asked why did you not include DLSS.
lol at comparison with scam citizen…
sadly Star Citizen’s economic model is obviously a scam and a trap for compulsive buyers , but other than that , graphically , it’s a masterpiece ahead of it time , it’s more optimized right now , the planets , the explorations , the scale of the galaxies , the space cruising , for a sci-fi space travel lover , this game is a must have , but as i said , it’s a trap , mostly like a drug to an addict , i heard that some people spent more than 1100 bucks in real dollars on the Starter pack only , and other 27 000 Dollars on virtual space ships , lol, no wonder the Beta phase of the game will be still the only available for years now , and the Single player Squadron 42 game they are supposedly developing is another scam , i wanted so bad to play this game but as soon as i saw the prices and the practices and the business model of it , it was a big NO NO ……
Man, that’s crazy. Almost thirty grand would buy you a very decent car and to waste that on a bunch of pixels which might be inaccessible once the servers close is asinine. But I guess people who can waste so much money on such silly things have no shortage of cash.
Both Starfield and Star Citizen are scams.
Starfield is a scam because they promised space travel, but in reality players are stuck behind invisible walls, menus and loading screens. You can’t even land on planets.
Star Citizen actually has space travel, but has been milking players for years and seems to have no plan to ever release the game.
Both games make No Man’s Sky look like the least scammy game of them all, which is saying something.
Todd Howard did say that there were no landing on planets early on.
But yes, space adventure games are quite in a strange position now, with different amazing promises that gave good things but not quite what was anticipated.
Ye upgrade pc for gamebryo engine game
F*k you Todd
TBH CPU side optimization is not bad, just eat up a lot of gpu performance
https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1699640777045950604
well thats f*** hilarious!
Exclusive partnership with AMD.
Graphics from 2015.
You need to upgrade…
bethesda needs to upgrade, to a better engine.
can’t wait to be home so i can refound the premium edition upgrade
Nowadays you future proof your PC by not upgrading it so you don’t get the urge to play the latest goy slop. It’s amazing how many plants this game have in right wing social media circles, it’s kinda like NAFO/Ukraine appeals to right wing aligned people: Just ignore the woke stuff, this game is “Christian”, “based”, “homophobic” etc. They learned to lie from the master itself.
Even the voice actor said he played the texan cowboy as bisexual to the “christian gamer”
Where you also a influencer or influenced?Don’t think i have forgotten about you saying “you can play as a BlOnDe man by default”. Told you this game was gonna be woke just like Bolders gayte 3. now the latest cope is that pronouns doesnt work, its 4d chess you see…
True they know that what you see you tend to normalize to, topological psychology. Your matrix you exist in can be controlled to get the desired responses, like a torture chamber at the extreme or ritual chamber etc So flooding society w their filth with their machine which is all of electronic based media. So yeah it’s subtle indoctrination in games but it’s everywhere any media you consume since trannywood has it in there whether you’re aware of it or not. jumasontranny world rising beast for 500 years almost apex of control now.
Who? That cowboy hat guy voiced by adam jensen?
It seems like this runs worse at the high end, or what the very noisy high enders consider worse for spending over 1000$ for a gpu to play games, I get that but come on those prices are an obvious scam, you’re better off getting a mid range 1500 gaming laptop that you can also use as a laptop, not just some gpu. Once I dialed in the settings it looks great most of the time and is really deep in FO style npc quests and such. The standard areas are very FO4 looking at ultra in that game but elsewhere it’s amazing.
The NMS stuff doesn’t interest me but it’s there, but obviously not as thorough as NMS which focused on that. I skip as much of that as possible. And once you get the hang of the menus you can pretty much just fast travel from anywhere to anywhere w no ship stuff or minimal ship stuff. It does have weird variable shaders though, seems like farther away ones can get blurry-er than necessary but do come in the more you play imo, yeah it looks amazing sometimes, sometimes it’s less so.
And you need it on ssd/nvme, otherwise it’s a terrible experience. I get smooth almost all the time at 1080p FSR2 sharpening 80, render scale 80, and shadows are the biggest killer settings, it’s pretty much FO/NMS/Outer Worlds/Andromeda mix. FO games always had the loading screens all over, no surprises. Prey had them too etc Seconds on an ssd, not a big deal.
The more that Todd Howard runs his arrogant mouth the more that I don’t like him.
LOL John, what a shitshow once again. Glad that I have no intention to play it annyway!
To bad for you guys who will, and once again we are given the finger. To find a working game these frikking days seems impossible almost!
Or people can just not upgrade their PC, and play BG3 instead.
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it’s not even comparable…….2006 VS 2023.
I would still rather play BG1 or 2 lol.
American game vs European game
Not everyone’s into turn based crap. I’d much rather play chess. Cause that’s where all this nonsense has derived from.
Considering many of the best games are turn based, you’re missing out on some very good games.
The top RPG of all time are usually Chrono Trigger, Disco Elysium, Planescape: Torment, FF6, Persona 5 Royal, and now BG3. All turn based RPG (FF6 and DE is semi-turn based if you want to nitpick).
How can you miss out on these games.
Those are all games with 95%+ scores.
You would have to scrap like half the games on a top 100 list of all time if you don’t want to play turn based.
I used to like them in 2000s but i was a kid back then. Now i don’t have the time or of the feel for them.
I was disappointed to see BG3 being turn based, was expecting sth more like Dragons dogma or Dragon Age.
They are 95% of a niche. Not everyone plays TBS. To put this in Layman’s terms: of 100 ppl that played it, 95 gave a positive rating. That’s all it means.
That is a faulty assumption. Go on gq.magazine or whatever site you want and zelda, last of us, metal gear solid portal and tetris are in the top 10. Coincidently (not?), those are my fav games. I would add splinter cell and syphon filter to that list.
So yeah I dunno what to tell you Sonny, it will take a little more convincing in order for me to go back to TBS. I left that realm over a decade ago.
All crappy.
Todd is full of crap.
True and that’s why his eyes are brown. If he were any more full of sh*t it would be coming out of his ears.
Todd IS the crap! He IS Number 2… probably still doesn’t beat Randy’s record of 8.6 courics. I doubt he’s even close. But he DOES get bonus Katie Couric points for this latest spouting of BS “oh but the game is already optimized”.
wow 69 comments. are we getting invaded by normies or is this POS game excessively triggering?
In Todd’s defense I get it that somewhere down the line we are going to have to upgrade our PC as games get more advance.
But your engine needs to show some significant improvement to warrant an upgrade.
Starfield is still running gamebyro though it’s upgraded from previous games it’s still the same basic engine. They are just being lazy
Seriously more graphically intense games are out now that still can be played by people on 1070 and on HDD.
Starfield requires a SSD just to play is beyond ridiculous. Other games load just fine with decent HDD.
Your game isn’t that ground breaking Todd. It’s not even really an open galaxy as they promised. It’s load screens to get to parts of space. Then load screens to explore parts of a planet….
maybe he is right. It is time for me to upgrade my 4090 and i9 13900ks…
It could be that the game won’t look so flat and boring with a new system.
Dont go for the RTX 5080 Ti its 32 Gb VRAM isnt enough for Starfield. You may consider to go for Todd’s recommendation the RX 9900 XTX from Intel-AMD since they merged together back in 2025. The RX 9900 XT will get you around 62 fps ( at 8K ) so.. just skipp Nvidia RTX 5000 series at the moment.
Jensen will announce the 6000 series later this fall rumour has it they will be around $ 3499 ..
Best upgrade decisions:
2012, upgrading to a 1080p 120 Hz monitor.
2016, upgrading to a 1440p 144 Hz VRR monitor.
2020, upgrading to an RTX 3080 at RRP.
2020-onwards: NOT upgrading to a 4K monitor.
Best of your best upgrade decisions is not going to 4K. It’s pretty but it’s expensive as hell when you factor in the ridiculously expensive high end GPU needed to run it unless you want to turn settings down but then that kind of defeats the purpose of going to 4K in the first place.
That is the reason why the adoption rate is still, even after all of these years, only 3.6%
And 8K is silly to even consider. Probably always will be unless there is some amazing breakthrough in GPU performance in the future beyond the normal performance increase with each generation which just gets wasted with the future game release demands anyway. Hell, look at what is happening to the 4090 with 4K.
4k stuff is dead, now its all about upscaling while running under 1080p.
Yup, even the 4090 can no longer render modern games (UE5, Starfield) at native 4K.
Once the 5000 series hits I’ll be building a new PC with the best parts available, but will still stick with my 1440p monitor.
Yep, back in 2012 Im upgrading to 1080p60 TN, 2017 to 1080p75 IPS with VRR, 2019 with 1080p144 VA with VRR until today. 10 years of 1080p and GPU still cant gaming better , wait for OLED 1440p to be more price friendly
1440p144 in 2016? Brah, a 1080 Ti could barely do 1080p120 in 8th gen games … in 2017.
what b**tard , they made the game in target to manipulate old or even newer gpus to make them look obsolete, this is why i always say if i was rich i would hard sue Bethesda, lazy, creep bastards
Don’t listen to Turd Howard. His mother obviously dropped him on his head a lot when he was a baby. He can’t help being a babbling tard.
More like “Sorry we forgot what scalability means!”
But it’s Bugthesda what do you expect.
I’ll wait some good 6 months and then I’ll buy the game again.
High Seas Inc. has the best prices!
This little brat earned serious spanking
I am on the first planet. Literally KOTOR gfx, those trees lmao.
65 fps @ 3080 @13600k
Top seller on Steam. FU humanity.
doom eternal 200-240fps 4k just saying.