Battlefield 5 does not support ray tracing RTX effects at launch

Battlefield 5 is one of the first games that will feature support for real-time ray tracing effects via NVIDIA’s RTX technology. However, it appears that PC gamers will have to wait a little longer as DICE’s title will not support these effects at launch.

In case you weren’t aware of, Battlefield 5 has been unlocked for those with Origin Access subscription and there is currently no option to enable the real-time ray tracing RTX effects.

There is currently no ETA on when a patch will enable these effects. We also don’t know if a day-1 patch will enable them (however, and since this Early Access is basically identical to the build that gamers will be playing in a couple of days, we can safely assume that there won’t be one for RTX).

What’s also really funny here is that on November 20th it will be two whole months since the official release of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX2080Ti , and we still don’t have a single game support RTX or DLSS.

We don’t know whether the lack of ray tracing effects in any game has anything to do with the October 2018 update for Windows 10 that was pulled. Still, it will be interesting to see whether this ridiculous wait will be worth it!

99 thoughts on “Battlefield 5 does not support ray tracing RTX effects at launch”

  1. Why are you so much obsessed and bothered with this whole ray tracing stuff, in the first place ?

    Give it more time for Christ’s sake, and it also hardly matters because majority of the Gamers don’t have an RTX-supported GPU.

    1. ???? People are shelling over $1000 for a feature that isn’t supported yet and you don’t think that’s news? When you buy a car do you wait a couple months for the steering wheel to arrive?

  2. Forget about proprietary RTX, the main concern is the lack of Microsoft’s DXR support. RTX is simply a Nvidia console.

  3. So to date, there isn’t a single RTX game when two of the games seen running RTX won’t be available at launch. RTX has to run horrible, worse than most people are imagining.

      1. Which smells like what Konami did to Kojima. Too much talent leaving the industry, while shareholders and execs are going full steam ahead with an industry wide, anti-consumer pivot into pure mobile and heavy microtransaction-pack apps disguised as games. Not win-win for consumers.

    1. Even when all these companies involved do find the time to get around to update just barely enough to avoid litigation from all the joint-corporate misleading advertising, they will be stuck in 1080p 30fps hell.

    1. There’s seldom been an architecture planned so poorly since a bunch of Italians decided to build a certain tower in Pisa during the 12th century.

  4. You have to have the October 2018 update for DXR(Direct X Ray tracing) 1809 so ya It probably has to do with the October update being pulled.

    ALSO
    https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-5/news/battlefield-5-pc-guide?isLocalized=true
    “An early release of DXR will be available in an upcoming patch, near the Battlefield V Deluxe Edition release window. EA, DICE, and NVIDIA will also continue to optimize this implementation and deliver regular updates after its release.”

    1. Sounds like it is going to run like a cripple pigeon, especially if they’re mentioning further optimization up front and calling it “early release”.

      1. They probably mean early in that DXR isn’t technically released yet as DXR is in the October update. Which currently you can only get by being in the Windows Insider program. That and Ray tracing is still a early tech for video games so new optomization techniques should come as well.

  5. RTX LAUNCH IS A BIG FAT FAIL.

    While the hardware is performing quite good this doesn’t explain the HUGE price hike. I’ve been waiting for a 2080ti ftw3 hybrid but since the last month, i’m starting to lean towards a 1080ti ftw3 hybrid which will cost me 1/2 price for -25% (no dlss/rt). Who the fk cares anyways this shyte isn’t going to be ready for another 1-2 just like tesselation/hbao/etc.

    God i’m pissed at Nvidia.

      1. Personally I think energy should not be directed at each other but towards the companies involved in their joint effort to mislead in their advertising. “It’s just business” is NEVER an excuse to violate consumer trust and mislead the public. Personally I think the FTC should take a look but it is just “video game stuff” so most consumers might not care. But wtf do I know?

        1. I don’t feel Nvidia or others have been misleading in reality, they have just done what businesses do and promote positive aspects to sell their products. They have never promised these features at launch, or that they would be in place in all games. They just provided list of games that were supposed to support the features. (developers openly admitted later they had only couple weeks and sometimes even days with hardware, so realistically, did anyone expect these things to be ready for launch?)

          Final Fantasy is different as clearly SE pulled plug due to disappointing sales and cost required on supporting further development time, they cutting losses.

          For me DLSS was always the more interesting feature rather than Raytracing at this point.

          Raytracing is realistically 2-4 years away before it really becomes mainstream, if not even longer.

          I think the hardware itself is great, and if had been released purely as a 1080ti successor at 1080ti prices, then there would be no complaints, but the pricing is insane, and no doubt they are expensive to produce, but this entire range of GPU’s are best ignored unless you have money to burn, as by time features become available, they will be flogging next lot of GPU.

          Truly awful decisions on Nvidia to launch with this level of support and these prices.

          In strange way, I’m happy they did, as it’s perfect excuse to sit this gen out and wait with my 1080ti until there’s something really worthy of replacing it with.

    1. It looks like PS5 next year will be using raytracing tech and something similar to DLSS, so one year from now you can expect many games with raytracing support on PC as well. 1080ti is still very good card in current games, but when games will start using turing architecture (new shading methods, DLSS, RTX effects) we will see up to 6x performance difference (star wars tech demo result on 1080ti 9 fps, on 2080ti 57fps in 1440p)

      1. Dude are u delusional ? PS5 Raytracing ? lmao. Something that now it’s barely used on PC at thousands of dollars of entry cost will come to budget consoles next year ? Seriously are you that naive ?

        1. According to recently leaked pdf from SONY in regards to PS5 specs their new console will use raytracing but of course AMD implementation of it. PS5 will be not only fast but it’s visual design will be amazing also. I have included link but John has to accept it first.

          1. Did i say that consoles never used newer tech ? Sure they sometimes were at the forefront of the tech industry but that sure ain’t today. Xbox 360 is from 2005 that is almost two decades ago, and it was a custom architeture something that todays generations aren’t.

            Dude consoles can’t even handle stuff like ambient oclusion or higher shadow qualities and you are expecting this jump in visual quality ? The ONEX is the one who started to use 16x Anisotropic Filtering now, something extremely basic that is present in any kind of PC setup for the last decade.

          2. You didnt said that but you clearly implied people cant expect consoles to use new hardware features while some consoles in the past already did it. So if it happened few times already it can happen again.

            “”custom architeture something that todays generations aren’t.””

            Really? Xbox X is also using totally custom made GPU with dx12 build into a hardware level for a first time ever.

            PDF from sony looks legit and I hope PS5 will popularize raytracing the same way as xbox classic popularized shaders. I remember playing spalinter cell 1 on my PC, because it was first game with shaders support I bought on my PC. On geforce 3 in 1024×768 I had like 15-20fps in the oil refinery level so shading performance on PC was poor and this technology would probably not addopt so fast without xbox classic. Xbox classic run games in 640×480 and 30fps, so developers could use shaders in every game.

            No one will want to play 30fps 1440p game with raytracing effects on PC, but on consoles the same resolution and perfromance will be still ok. On PC hovewer new AMD and Nv high end GPU’s will probably offer raytracing at 60fps

        2. Claybook use use sphere tracing at 4k 60fps already. Ps5 would only need hardware suport for SDF and BVH.

        1. Because no one need to listen to trolls like you. How many troll accounts you are using? 3x for sure because you hace copied the same comment and use new accounts with literally no comments history just to attack me. Also why are you deleting your comments? You dont like when other people see what absurd things you wrote? You obviously like attacking other people kid. Grow up and then we can talk.

          1. Sorry to break this, but you are the only irritating sick TROLL this website has. Stop accusing other forum users.

            Because you keep on spewing out your gibberish nonsense.

          2. excellent ! Now, you are abusing others as well !! Good god…LMAO. Get lost you SON of a .b.it.c.h.

          3. It’s obvious you guys are here just to attack me, because you dont even want to talk like normal people, so I have every reason to defend myself now. You are using multiple accounts and troll people in so obvious way. How stupid you can be to post the same comment on 3 different accounts, and each account was new! So I was absolutely right, and what’s funny other people also accused your other accounts to be troll acounts, so I’m not the only one who see what ypu are doing.
            Like I have said before fu$# off you crazy mother%$ker

          4. “”you guys are here just to attack me”

            So you agree we all are having different accounts, we are not the same, and yet you accuse me of having multiple accounts….LOL. Go f.*** your mom…,

            Get a LIFE you lifeless moronic KID. Check the Disqus ‘join dates’ on all accounts, before accusing me any further…

          5. You have 3x accounts for sure, but there are also few people who defend you, because they are poor and stupid as you, so they like you :). You are like gay friends buahaha!

          6. I wonder why you behave like true animal, it’s because your mom was a goat raped by some crazy guy? That would explain your animalistic behavior 🙂

            Now show us how angry and crazy animal you are, I cant wait to hear what you write next, I’m gonna make myself popcorn and watch this commedy unfold :). Your comments make me laugh, because you are the dumbest troll I have ever seen and I cant take you seriously anyway :).

          7. You are KID obviosuly, because you see fun in trolling people with multiple accounts, and on top of that you attack everyone who can afford things you cant, so obviously unlike me you are a kid without a job. Few people besides me also accused you of posting butthurt comments in regards to high end GPU’s. Your first comment on the bottom of this page was no different, and when other people attacked you I didnt upvoted their hateful comments because I’m not like them. Maybe you can tell us, why you have deleted your comment? You cried because other people attacked you? At least not only me can see what a butthurt fool you are.

            Funny facts:
            -you copy/pasted literally the same comments on 3 different accounts
            -these accounts were created obviously just to attack and troll me, because your first comment on each of them was first in comments history. So two other people would register here a d create account just to attack me? No, it’s not possible, it was all your accounts.
            -not only you copy/paste the same comments on each od your accounts, but you also behave in the same way, for example you all like deleting your comments. I’m not right Kunalsaha? (Or should I say “Jackyies” because that’s your original account)

            John@Please check his IP, you have already posted screenshots showing user IP info, so I know you can see he is indeed using multiple accounts.

          8. This guy is really a LUNATIC. A toxic kid for sure.. One of the worst online members I’ve ever dealt with, TBH.

          9. That’s the thing, unlike you I could easily afford not only high end PC but also consoles :D, while kids like you cant afford bascially anything, and probably that’s why you are so butthurt when people here on DSOG talk about things you cant afford. You obviously hate consoles, you obviously hate users with high end PC. You basically hate everyone besides poor pirates who game on on old hardware :D. WHAT A LOSER!! That’s why you troll people here, because you are a LOSER!

      2. The problem isn’t the hardware right now. It’s the software. It’s just NOT ready and NOT optimized. Console or not this is blowing shyte right now.

        1. I know currently software is not ready, and that’s why I wrote you about the future, because one year from now thanks to PS5 you will see many games on PC that will use raytracing as well. Also even before PS5 will be launched I’m sure few games on PC will be finally patched and use RTX features.

      3. – PS5 isn’t coming next year
        – PS5 probably won’t have a nvidia GPU
        – games won’t start featuring proper path tracing until 5+ years from now

        1. According to leak (PDF from sony) PS5 is coming next year and will feature AMD GPU with raytracing and their own DLSS implementation.

          1. This make no sense wutsoever the only reason Ray tracing is being talked about so much is becaus Nvidia is making the RTX cards that does raytracing on a hardware level, something AMD has not even annouced for their lineup yet, so again expecting this on a budget console in less than a year is DELUSIONAL.

          2. According to pdf from sony PS5 will use radeon rays and it doesnt matter AMD didnt announced raytracing support on their PC hardware just yet. Did AMD announce their GPU will use DX12 on the hardware level (xbox x), or did they anmounce xbox 360 will be using unified shaders for a first time ever? No people learned about new technology from AMD only when consoles have been launched.

            I have seen too many consoles pushing hardware forward so I’m not surprised hearing about PS5 raytracing support, but I’m sure people like you will be surprised :).

      4. I highly doubt PS5 will be launched next year. More like Autumn 2020. Sony isn’t in any hurry to make the shift to next-gen since they pretty much dominate the console scene at this point.

        On the RTX features and future developments within the next-gen consoles you are spot on…or at least, it’s the most logical step Sony and Microsoft would make.

        1. Yes, but remember, sony is not the only one player here, MS will also make new console very soon and SONY will want to be first for obvious reasons, MS and SONY compete with eachother.

          1. “MS and SONY compete with eachother”

            Thanks for the heads up Captain Obvious.
            Rest assured MS is also not in a hurry due to financial aspects and risk of suppressing sales of the Xbox One X which launched just a year ago. It would be downright moronic to throw hundreds of millions into R&D, distribution and marketing just to rush out another console, with slightly superior hardware, just 2 years after they launched the One X.

            Late 2020 is the more logical and common sense date, since both developers and chip manufacturers will have enough time to deliver significantly and truly “next-generation” worthy products, not just half-a$$ed sprinkles of raytracing here an there or other graphical gimmicks that would only infuriate/disappoint the fanbase.

          2. Xbox X is not new generation, it’s still using similar weak CPU as standard xbox one. So without any doubts a proper new gen console would be significant leap even compared to xbox x. Even GPU with 11.2 tflops plus raytracing and DLSS support will offer much better performance compared to 6 tflops on xbox x. What’s interesting AMD GPU architecture support raytracing acceleration even on their current hardware, and unlike Nv they dont need to use seperate RTX cores for that, so they really prepared their hardware much better for raytracing than Nv. Nv have rushed raytracing on PC and want to sell RTX cards to very few people (rich PC enthusiasts), while AMD is preparing everything with patience and will sell their hardware with raytracing support to millions of people thanks to consoles.

          3. Totally agree on the Nvidia rushing the RTX features! It seems as if they just shoved it in there almost at the last minute just to hype the fanbase which totally fell for it, and to make it even worse a lot of 2080 cards are dying and RMAs are well in the hundreds by now.

            And indeed I think also that AMD managed to smartly, and almost under the radar, prep their version of RTX quite elegantly into the current and future architectures. As far as performance numbers go… 11.2, 12, 20 tflops, it’s as pulling numbers out of your a$$ really…we won’t know for sure until probably e few months before launch.

            As a tech enthusiast I do find very interesting the following points regarding the next console generation:

            1. Assuming it’s a smart move to a have at least some sort of basic RTX capabilities in your next-gen console, what side will Sony or MS favor? AMD or Nvidia

            2. Since AMD managed to basically monopolize this generation consoles with their chips, will Nvidia stay once again on the sidelines and gift AMD another 7-8 years of easy console cash?

            Very interested on how it will all play out, regardless of fanboyism towards this side or the other.

          4. Will see, I just hope PC gaming will benefit from new tech in the future thanks to PS5.

        1. Oh look somone deleted his disqus profile. Hum, i wonder why ? Let’s see how long he creates a new one to start posting his non-sense again.

    2. As much as it was very veeeery obvious that this was joint corporation shady af marketing (to me blatantly misleading and violating FTC consumer laws), I can only empathize with those who feel cheated. Yes we can say they deserved it for falling for it and blah blah, but that doesnt help CONSUMERS.

      Problem is we stay silent from challenging companies and only blame each other – just like we do in our politics – while the rich shareholder aholes use their companies to abuse consumers and our trust. When we stand up we are ridiculed (i.e. like what happened with Blizzard), but just like any industry consumers pay real world money and consumers must be protected from PREDATORY Marketing like this.

      Personally I think far more transparency is needed in gaming hw and sw marketing. I’m talking a whole lot more.

      Also, never preorder unless you can get a guaranteed refund.

  6. I am not shocked we do not see any PC effects since games the past couple years have all been console focused.

  7. They wait for RTX 3080Ti
    Shadow of the Tomb Raider also
    we will see, what will do Metro Exodus?
    RTX is a imagination
    shame that it ended up this way

  8. From the day one patch changelog.

    “Optimizations to our Ray Tracing implementation which reduces the GPU memory
    allocation by around 500mb when playing at 1080P”

  9. “Did i say that consoles never used newer tech ? Sure they sometimes were at the forefront of the tech industry but that sure as sh*t ain’t today”

    And BTW. on what hardware HDR was popularised recently… on consoles of course and only now you can see PC games using true HDR support. So as you can see consoles are pushing technology forward even today.

    According to AMD presentation in regards to their real time raytracing solution (radeon rays), they have already technology to accelerate raytracing operations on their current VEGA cards. So unlike Nv they dont need to build seperate RTX cores for raytracing operations, and their current processors can already run real time raytracing, so it’s not surprising PS5 will support real time raytracing because PS5 will use AMD GPU’s after all.

    1. Radeon Rays is offline rendering solution for ray tracing. No real-time. Forget about real-time ray-traicing without HW acceleration. VEGA is just using stream proceesors to do software ray-traicing. This is the same tech which NVIDIA and AMD supports many years. You have no idea what are you talking about. NVIDIA used CUDA cores for SW rendering using ray-tracing for StarWars demo half-year ago. They need 4xTitan Volta for that. Now with HW support only one GPU can handle it. Do you think that PS5 will have performence as 4xTitan V? No way. I like that some people finally google ray-tracing info after RTX came out. But without context and better knowledge they are comparing it to Radeon Rays. Please stop spreading this BS.

      1. Consoles dont need to match 2080ti raytracing perfromance. 2080ti runs star wars tech demo with 57fps average, while console games run in around 25-30fps. According to AMD engineer their current architecture can accelerate raytracing operations, that’s why I have linked AMD presentation where they talk about it in details and they even show real time raytracing running.

        1. But their Radeon Rays is stil softwer raytracing. RTX is HW raytracing and thats big difference. NVIDIA had SW like Radeon Rays years ago. Look for “NVidia – Design Garage demo” on youtube. Its from 2010. And its running on NVIDIA hardware. But the difference is, that it is accelerated only by stream processors but you need to run important functions via hardware routines – this is what RT Cores do for RTX. AMD has nothing like this. Thats why the first Star Wars demos were run on 4xTitan V which have around 21 000 stream processors. And now one 2080 Ti is better than this. Do you think that AMD will have in PS5 more than 5000 stream processors? If they will not have hardware support for RT, there will be no RT support in PS5.

          1. AMD says they are accelerating raytracing thanks to asynchronous compute on VEGA (havent you seen YT video I have linked?), and if they call it real time, then it means their method of doing raytracing is fast enough. AMD doesnt need dedicated ray tracing hardware. Their GPUs can do real time raytracing already. The vega FE was doing 4k raytracing when the 1080 could barely do 480p raytracing, so please dont compare raytracing performance running on Nv older architectures (because you indeed needed 4x titan v just for 24 fps) to raytracing performance on vega cards, because the difference was HUGE.

            Like I have said in my previous post, PS5 leak that I’m talking about comes from the same guy, who already leaked true PS4 NEO information and because it clearly mention raytracing support in games you can bet you will see raytrcaing on PS5. You should be happy because you will see more games on PC platform with raytracing effects thanks to PS5.

          2. That video you linked is only “analysis” of some man who obviously is fan of AMD. There is no way that asynchronous compute will secure you real-time raytracing. If you really believe that, then you even don’t know what asynchronous compute is. Without HW support you have no chance to do it. And Vega FE doesn’t have that (which means that even RTX 2070 is much better in that). There is no 4K real-time raytracing just because of asynchronous compute. You obviously don’t know what is the difference between software raytracing (all solutions from NV and AMD before Turing) and hardware raytracing (supported by Turing as the first architecture which is providing such thing).

          3. MaDz only summarized entire AMD presentation at the beginning, but few minutes later you can see AMD engineer talking from that point about the way they do raytracing. Also you can read tomshardware article in regards to real time raytracing on AMD cards, where they also clearly mention AMD is using synchronous compute to accelerate raytracing.

            Just type into google search :

            AMD Has Its Own Ray-Tracing Technology

            It’s toms hardware article.

            So even right now VEGA cards can accelerate raytracing operations with much better results than pascal and PS5 will be using next generation of AMD hardware, not vega, so you can expect they will prepare their hardware even better for real time raytracing operations. Playstation5 leak clearly mention new sony console will support raytracing, and because it comes from a guy, who already provided legit informations in regards to ps4pro months before it was announced, so dont be surprised when sony will announce PS5 in Q1 2019 and confirm raytracing support.

          1. So now you dont like my rude language ? It’s funny because unlike you I’m only using strong language only towards arogant people like you, who started attacking me in the first place and posted very rude comments towards me (and I asked you multiple times to use normal language, but of course you never listened), so please dont make yourself an ANGEL now, because you are one angry motherf##er who started all of this, and who obviously enjoyed to post hateful comments towards people for no real reason.

      2. Just ignore this LuckyNumber8 guy for good. He is just spreading misinformation and spewing out his nonsense……..

  10. You poor pirate, who can only cry when consoles are faster than your old 970. Whatever you like it or not, real time raytracing is coming to consoles. Not only AMD talk about raytracing in their presentation, but their current architecture allready can be used to accelerate raytracing operations and unlike Nv they dont need to build seperate RTX cores just for raytracing. So PS5 with much faster GPU compared to current consoles will be used for raytracing for sure, like it or not. Of course thanks to PS5 raytracing on PC will be finally popularized, but because you are so stupid and hateful towards consoles you cant see obvious benefits on PC platform as well.

  11. The 1080ti is the best thing you can buy right now, I got 2 aorus 1080ti with 460$ each there’s nothing better for the price, rtx is going to be used maybe later next year in games and the prices of the 20xx series will go down while the 1080ti will not depreciate as much. The better investment is 1080ti now and wait and see what the deal with rtx is going to be next year.

    1. Oh sorry that i dont play a low settinga downscaled 4k image with sub 30 fps on a not 4k tv …….
      Also. Shaming some one that hes poor is the pathetick… Like hahaha he dont own a iphone what a loooooser … Like… My dude i rather be smart than rich and dumb ….
      And thx to consoles i dont need new HW cuz consoles are holding back pc gaming so my 970s are totaly fine for my monitor and refresh rate what is the standard.. Oh sorry that consoles still can run games at 30fps like 10years ago

      1. My dear pirate, If you are poor, it’s not because you are bright and smart, just the opposite. It’s funny when people like you think they are poor just because they are smart 😀 (but at least you think highly of yourself, and that’s a good thing)

          1. I’m not posting rude comments towards everyone, only towards angry people like you, who post rude comments towards me first. Your first comments towards me was very rude, you can’t deny that, so dont be surprised now I’m will play with you a little :).

            I’m visiting DSOG site because I’m PC and technology enthusiast, who want to talk about new hardware, while you obviously are here just to criticize new hardware and make fun from people, who can easily afford things you cant, and that’s something really pathetic, because people like you should not be here.

          2. Oh sorry my dude. oh old on . F*k you.
            All the garbage you been posting makes no sence you sh.ting all over this article abou PS5 lies and gaytracing what is a dumb gimick only to make a HW sell like xbox one x with 4K.
            No one wants you here. No one agree with you. And evertone know you are a random sh.t lord who knows nothing about thech.

            The only reason i didnt block you is that its fun to se how big of a moorn you are by digging your own hole…..

            “DSOG site because I”m PC and technology enthusiast”
            Its called the dark side of gaming. We come here to sh.t on EA monami ubisoftmicrosoft sony bestheda…….. And you…
            This isnt a tech site you window licker

  12. Of course I think too, that AMD will have something similar like NVIDIA RTX. Its logical because RTX is just implementation of DXR, which is part of DirectX. AMD has to do their own implementation of DXR in their future products. But you will not have real time raytracing with actual AMD hardware like you don’t have real time raytracing on other NVIDIA GPUs except Turing. So I hope that AMD will jump into this train with their 7nm GPUs. But I don’t believe, that custom chip on next gen consoles will have support for real-time RT. Maybe PS5 Pro in 5 years will have something. But we will see.

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