Batman: Arkham Knight has just been released and it appears that Rocksteady went full “Ubisoft.” Batman: Arkham Knight suffers from a lot of tech issues on the PC. From underwhelming performance to stuttering and asset streaming issues, this PC version of Batman: Arkham Knight is easily as awful as Ubisoft’s Watch_Dogs or Assassin’s Creed: Unity. No, in fact this is worse than Unity, because – like it or not – Unity at least displayed gorgeous visuals (albeit its awful LOD settings).
Both SLI scaling and multi-CPU scaling are all over the place. There is an aggressive LOD being used, resulting in all sorts of pop-ins. Story mode is also locked at 30fps by default (though you can unlock the framerate via the game’s .ini files). And even without NVIDIA’s GameWorks effects, we were unable to maintain a constant 60fps experience (yes, even on Low settings).
We’ll have more to say about Batman: Arkham Knight in our upcoming PC Performance Analysis. There are rumours that a day1 patch may be released, therefore we’ll delay our article until Friday. Still, at this point, we strongly suggest waiting before getting this title on the PC.
Below you can find some comparison screenshots between the game’s Low and High settings. Strangely enough, the game only support “Normal” textures. Moreover, there were occasions in which over 6GB of our total RAM was being used (do note that we’re talking about RAM and not VRAM).
High images are on the left, whereas low images are on the right.
UPDATE:
Rocksteady acknowledged the game’s performance issues.
“Hi all
We’re aware that some users are reporting performance issues with the PC version of Batman: Arkham Knight. This is something that Rocksteady takes very seriously. We are working closely with our external PC development partner to make sure these issues get resolved as quickly as possible.
We’ll update this thread when we’ve got more info to share.”
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seriously!!! High or love dont see any difference at all!!
Me neither……apart from the 10fps difference.
hahahahha
also.. there’s denuvo that i read of. they failed and screwed up big this time.
Glad I didn’t buy it.
Yeah, and even if any of you did – refund that POS immideately.
Yeah, that Steam refund policy hit just in time for this release, fortunately.
They’ll patch it out eventually, though, so I wouldn’t be surprised if people hang onto it.
And thats the hipocresy I pointed out in another post, the tolerance for AAA games are much higher when it comes to refunds. If this batman thing would be a indie game people will be refunding to the last copy sold, while on an AAA game people say, “it will be patched”. Buyers denial.
I would just get a refund until it is patched same as indie games
Everything about this game screams irrevocable damage; I was expecting a bad port akin to previous Arkham titles but those pale by comparison.
In addition the undisclosed “external PC development partner” Iron Galaxy, undisclosed inclusion of Denuvo & WBGames’ tendency to pull funding very early have me very worried. This could forever remain a wipe off.
Definite refund.
Ooph. Don’t forget, they didn’t send out advanced review copies, 12 hours before the game launched they quietly changed the minimum PC requirements, and they removed the pre-order bonus just hours before the game launched.
The only way this launch could have gone worse is if Batman showed up at your door and killed your dog with a Batarang.
Yep, very shady.
As someone with terrible Internet, I feel for people who verified cache to stop crashes only to have the game completely delete itself. D:
They removed the preorder dlc bonus from all versions or just the pc version? if all versions then evryone must rise against WB!
Just from keys that came with Nvidia graphics cards. Others still have the preorder DLC.
Now that you have mentioned it, I don’t think I’ve saw my dog today…
D:
LMAO!!! That was great!
I can’t see the difference between High and Low.
like W3 console ports everywhere man!
TW3 looks ALOT better on ultra, much better than the POS console version.
lol and still looks worse than DICE FROSTBITE engine who btw runs amazing on Nvidia Kepler GPUs ,Maxwell and AMD cards
That’s too bad. http://i.imgur.com/U1SJSZY.jpg
Silvu = Witcher 3 hater since dayONE!
i agree with you on POS4 version
seriously mate get over witcher 3 , and guys i know are reporting better performance after drivers and patches on old architectures (just kill HW , not suited for older card or any card actually)
better performance by 5 FPS wow thats just ……
dont know mate , but guys with 780s and 770s are reporting 5-15 fps .Try every tweak mate.Hope it works out for you.Cheers!
5-8
have you visited the tweaks thread mate? i know my 860m is a maxwell , but i can do high @ 30fps…..
i assume you play it on ultra with hw?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05YnxYqHW0
Better textures especially on batman himself, more and farther away light sources and shadows. Very little difference as the fps counter shows.
Is it me or is the difference between high and low not as different as it should be? Witcher 3 being another example where the low and high, while very distinguishable should have being much wider in difference!
true!
You should see the console version, it’s lower than low on the PC in regard to NPCs and doesn’t draw any shadows over a 1/10 of the screen when you look in the distance.
“Hi all! We’re aware that some users are reporting performance issues with the PC version of Batman” – LMAO, indeed only 32% of all the user reviews are positive, I am sure it’s just “some” users…
“We’re aware that SOME users are reporting performance issues” Lol gotta love that wording, so your game got 32% rating on steam, that means 68% or more of your customer are getting performance issues and you choose to say that some users are having performance problem, OK then.
loooooooooooool looks the same !
anyway still runs better than Witcher 3 so i am happy with it!
sad part is, it runs few times worst than W3, this time even on Top End PCs
Lol, zero difference between Low and Ultra, terrible performance even on top of the line GPUs. GG Crapsteady, you’ve just lost a HUGE chunk of your fanbase.
Weird, huh? There’s only a 200mb RAM difference between High and Low settings. Something is terribly wrong here.
Holy f’balls!! that chromatic aberration makes the game look horrible.
NVIDIA picks another POS optimised game. Also the game doesn’t look half as good as their E3 demos, what a surprise. This is what you get if you pre-order, even with money off, DON’T PRE-ORDER
nvidia is best!! AMD sucks
SEAN actually uses an Nvidia card.He is stating the fact that Nvidia needs to pay close attention to who they work with as it is damaging their reputation i mean arkham city,Far cry mess,watch dogs,AC unity,witcher 3 at launch,and now this
honestly every time i know a game is supported by Nvidia i say here we go again
no he uses matrox, also its your rig that cant handle the game
Here comes the NVIDIA fanboy
Just ignore this punk, pretty sure he uses his dad’s PC before bedtime.
no i have my own,
GTX 980 ti
i7 5960X
but nvidia is the best and AMD is sh*t
Keep pre ordering, people.
Also, ‘external PC development partner’ LOL, this is a straight-up, hacked-in-a-few-months console port.
In the PC Credits, Iron Galaxy Studio has like 12 people.
ROFL, their catalog consists almost exclusively of mobile and console games.
12 people ? Seriously ..
DO NOT BUY LITERALLY THE STORY IS AS BAD AS CANCER its like they wanted to make the dumbest ending/twists they could
would probably consider once the GOTY is out
This is so disappointing. Rocksteady has a good track record with PC optimization and now they decide to screw it up and with the final game no less. Damn, was really looking forward to this game.
I seem to remember Arkham City’s performance really sucked in DX11 mode. There were also many problems with Arkham Asylum and Physx.
Yeah but without DX11, the game ran smooth like butter.
yeah, it ran smooth with DX10, i played it with a gtx 280 and with physx on medium
I still had a dual core and a 9800GT at the time and both Asylam and City ran great.
I had 2500k and 560 ti and i played it max settings 1024p dx11(Arkham city) from day one. It worked perfectly dx11 max settings from day one of release. Now about Origins i also had and played it on the same pc but 1080p instead of 1024 p because i had got 1080 p monitor by the time that it released, again max settings only without mssa. Arhkam aslym i had 8800gt and athlon x2. Again max settings 1024p i played it day one of release no issues. Now with 2500k 3,3ghz gtx 970 1080 p monitor and with the ability to run at 1440p and 4k due to dsr techology…. I am waiting until next week to buy it.
Ubisteady
capping 30FPS on PC gamers and slapping Denuvo on your face is just outright stupid
They beat ubisoft to this idea.
they gave PC version to some other s**ty company to port. it’s not even in alpha stages. F your games Warner and all of your DLCs and DRMs
I now have respect for Ubisoft Kiev studio.
hahahaha
what’s about the studio who port assassin’s creed revelations to the pc… they make a games free of any bugs or glitch why they don’t give the game to this studio or the guys who port dmc 2013. don’t understand, Warner bros alway found the s#ity studio all there pc games sucks ans specially mortal kombat.
“assassin’s creed revelations to the pc”…”free of any bugs”. LMAO!
Yeah free of any bugs. at least for me.
Ha, I’m not surprised. It’s a wonderful trend, eh?
There’s barely any difference. WTF 0_0
They didn’t give out any advanced review copies of game, I hear. That tells you something. They have done ZERO PC optimizations.
I feel really bad for the people that pre-ordered this. You gave them your money hoping they’ll make you a good product and then they just throw it on the floor at your feet and spit on you. 🙁
it looks the same in low or high graphics lol another piece of shi t console port lol glad I dont pre order games anymore :O
Spot on for Ubi’s Unity
move over ubisoft, we have a new king in town
Guys we can always just “test” it 🙂
No you cannot. No crack for it. It uses Denouvo.
You can test it the other way. Burn 60$ on steam, play for 1 hour, give up, refund.
They will probably crack it eventually. Fifa 15 and Inquisition were cracked.
they were cracked because of a Origin backdoor…Lords of the Fallen was never cracked, nor will Batman be..Lords also had performance issues and it was because of that stupid Denuvo sh*t, and here we go again..
but it took months to get cracked. battlefield hard line is 3 months old and still no crack
Getting a multiplayer game running is much harder since you have to replace the official game servers with your own. This isn’t just hard to do, it also costs money. Slapping intrusive DRM on multiplayer games is a waste imo, unless it doubles as cheat protection.
Lol where is that DayOne 4k 60fps noob? Probably burning with his copy!
i don’t understand how Nvidia would let developers release a game optimized for their GPU and also PC in general in this state it has become a trend most games with nvidia logo on them end up broken on pc at launch even witcher 3.what were they doing all this time
the games don’t just perform poorly on AMD GPUs but also Nvidia’s GPUs….WHY?
Played Batman earlier with 290x DCii OC’d and 5960x @2560×1440…
Damn, first time I saw a 65 FPS game going down to 5 FPS every 30 sec (or less)… game is just unplayable.
If there werent any big fps drops, game would be good (Graphics are great IMO).
It’s not Rocksteady fault. Iron Galaxy Studios ported game to PC.
Also
i.imgur . com/ObF1VKl.png
Doesn’t that at least partly make it Rocksteadys fault since they hired that incompetent studio instead of making it themselves or giving the project to somewhere else
Their statement “This is something that Rocksteady takes very seriously.” is puzzling. If they really took this seriously then they should have fixed these issues before releasing it to PC. These PR crap sometimes, they just dig their graves deeper.
Could it be that Rocksteady didn’t develop the PC version themselves? “our external PC development partner” suggests so.
EDIT: Iron Galaxy Studios seems to be credited in the PC version.
“Update: Rocksteady Studios has issued a statement regarding the problems with the PC version of the game, but has not named the external studio involved.”
Some members on neogaf have found Iron Galaxy Studios to be credited but either way it seems Rocksteady didn’t handle the PC version themselves which explains the poor performance.
Glad I didn’t buy it on day one then. TW3 and GTA 5 run far better than this junk.
not the first time remeber city
As the issues from the game weren’t enough then executives for WB making comments like this – http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/batman-warner-bros-marketing-exec-calls-fans-bunch-babies-over-arkham-knight-pc-complaints-1507598
What did they said exaxtly?
He said that PC gamers a bunch of crybabies take a look yourself.
https://i.imgur.com/ObF1VKl.png
Rocksteady take the crown from ubisof WP
Guys, Rocksteady didn’t port it and it seems they’re shielding the studio they gave the PC version to.
Warner Bros Interactive Entertainment strikes again with another dud developer. Glad I decided not to pre-order this game after the tragedy of Mortal Kombat X.
Seems like a lot of people are getting refunds on Steam and then buying the game on PS4 LOL.
What they going to do when and if it gets fixed? :p
We both know it won’t be fixed.
Arkham Origins has bugs that were never addressed, one is an unobtainable Riddler trophy. Don’t hold your breath for their… dedication (????).
Yes but WB didn’t develop this one.
Yes, WB doesn’t develop games at all. They get studios to do it. Where is fails (almost always now) is not the point. The point is that it fails and the costumer pays for it. They don’t have a good track record at repairing their products, they just prepare for the next scam.
WB Games developed Batman Origins which is a sister company of WB.
And Sony succeeded! That was their goal people buy onto it. Brilliant!
ANother nvidia game that performs sh**ty because of pointless proprietary graphics tech
I told you way before 70% of the new games is pure garbage, and nobody listening, but don’t worry it’s going to be better, just continue pre-ordering, buying dlc’s, and the most supporting people who gives a fock about you, and don’t forget just found a way to justifier how they make jokes of you.
which is why I’m excited for the lesser-known games such as Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 and less on “AAA” games
but AAA is better than indie
I had 2500k and 560 ti and i played it max settings 1024p dx11(Arkham
city) from day one. It worked perfectly dx11 max settings from day one
of release. Now about Origins i also had and played it on the same pc
but 1080p instead of 1024 p because i had got 1080 p monitor by the
time that it released, again max settings only without mssa. Arhkam
aslym i had 8800gt and athlon x2. Again max settings 1024p i played it
day one of release no issues. Now with 2500k 3,3ghz gtx 970 1080 p
monitor and with the ability to run at 1440p and 4k due to dsr
techology…. I am waiting until next week to buy it. GRR so disappointed!!
There was once a time where Low and High were actually different, now everything is Low settings with different names.
a silly question John, are you using a different Batman costume skin cause the suit looks different than the demos. There’s no armor plates.
User score is 1.9 on metacritic so far. Shoddy port.
You all paid for Early Access. Deal with it!
Who would have thought Batman Arkham Origins would turn out much better Batman Arkham Knight in the end.
“We are working closely with our external PC development partner” wtf this means? The game was not developed in house?
Who the fu#$ did this mess?
Don’t delay it, do a review on their released version, show them no mercy John!
Hodor
Hodor
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“We are working closely with our EXTERNAL PC development partner” That explain all this mess!!
Ryan Moore calls Gamers “Cry Babies” over Batman: Arkham Knight’s PC Port
Ryan Moore is the Executive Director of Marketing at Warner.Bros
The comment: https://i.imgur.com/ObF1VKl.png
The Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-moore/4/a19/213
Don’t you just love how the gaming industry treat PC gamers?
”’No, in fact this is worse than Unity”””
http://i.giphy.com/5WUsLZLkZlMdO.gif
This guys make the impossible.
Where is the optimization?!? Where is it?!!?
Waiting for Total Biscuit to tear it apart and he has two Titan X’s.
I was really anticipating this game coz I thought it will be a good PC port with WB and Rocksteady’s history . What a fuc*ing downer —__—
Low settings run bad because CPU bottleneck? Check. Framerate lock? Check. Nvidia Gameworks involved? Check. No crucial differences between low and high settings other than LOD? Check. We’ve gathered enough data.
Conclusion: This game will never be fixed on PC, if you bought this get a refund NOW. It is economically not viable to fix this game, the publisher has no interest in fixing this game. Don’t be naive. Don’t wait for patches.
Well, we were warned:
http://i.imgur.com/iPhJCVA.jpg
😀
god bless denuvo
Played an hour so far.
This game has one of the worst antialiasing implementations I have ever seen.
It’s some sort of post process aa that blurs the image even more than FXAA does, to the point that it almost looks like I’m running a low resolution upscaled.
The FXAA/MSAA/TXAA options from the previous entries are gone.
There’s some excessive (VERY) chromatic aberration, as well as motion blur, that cannot be disabled.
Vsync does not work for me in this game. Even when forcing it though nvidia control panel.
Sounds like a direct port from the consoles, right down to the horrible image quality and options.
Getting the “GOTY” (if after this comes out) version in the next year for 10/15€ more or less.
Still playing and enjoying The Witcher 3 (133 hours played) and have some games yet to finish and some that I never played.
PS: Will DX12 even if not implemented in the games, help these kind of performance issues with GameWorks/PhysX (as an example) when Windows 12 comes out? I wonder and hope that apart from the terrible port, some of these issues can give us a not so heavy impact when it comes to porting games to PC.
Just a thought tho.
Hope you like it. 😉
http://i.imgur.com/7kTBjwk.png
Wow. Its not our fault. Its the pc developer parrners fault. What an awful choose of words. I bedd no one knowened until now that they were using an external developer.
Meanwhile back in Batman Arkham City at 4K.
http://i.imgur.com/LoSeuNs.jpg
They even gimped the pc version ps4 version looks better than people running it on titans take a look at this people. Currently PC version is without HBAO but PS4 & XBONE does have some form of AO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BcV6LWVDaw
You’d think with their previous PC port issues they’d learned by now.
i bought it and i had no problems! ur rig sucks, i5 is bad, gtx 970 is outdated, this game needs a i7 extreme, a gtx 980 ti OCed/watercooled.