Star Wars Jedi: Survivor has just been released on PC, so we’ve decided to give it a go. And, to be honest, I was pleasantly surprised by its performance on our PC system. After numerous reports about the game under-utilizing the GPU, we were shocked to see our NVIDIA RTX 4090 being used to its fullest.
Now before continuing, we should detail the PC system we used for our initial tests. So, for the following benchmark, we used an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, 32GB of DDR5 at 6000Mhz, and NVIDIA’s RTX 4090. We also used Windows 10 64-bit, and the GeForce 531.61 driver. Yes, you read that right. Although we haven’t upgraded yet to the latest NVIDIA driver, the game runs fine.
Below you can find a video showcasing the jail sequence running at 4K with AMD FSR 2.0 on Epic Settings with Ray Tracing. And, as you can see, the game never drops below 85fps. In fact, without recording the game, we can get constant 90fps. Furthermore, the NVIDIA RTX 4090 is being used at 98% throughout the benchmark scene.
But how were we able to achieve such smooth framerates? For starters, we’ve disabled SMT (that’s Hyper-Threading for Intel owners). Since the game does not appear to take advantage of a lot of CPU threads, it makes sense to disable SMT for a much better experience.
What’s crucial to note here, though, is that the game has major issues when changing its graphics settings. At the end of the video, we highlight this issue. Upon disabling and re-enabling RT, our GPU usage, in the exact same scene, drops from 98% to 77%. And that’s precisely why a lot of PC gamers cannot see any performance increase when changing graphics settings. In order to fix this GPU utilization issue, you’ll have to close the game and re-launch it.
For instance, without RT at 4K/Epic Settings with FSR 2.0, we were getting 100fps with 87% GPU utilization. After closing and re-launching the game, we were getting 115fps with 95% GPU utilization. In fact, there were some scenes that ran better by up to 20-25fps just by re-launching the game. Below you can find such an example.
We are currently in the process of installing the game on our older Intel Core i9 9900K PC system. Therefore, expect a new article in which we’ll discuss the game’s performance on that system.
In conclusion, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor can run with constant 90fps on high-end PC systems. Do note that these results are from the jail area. According to reports, Koboh is the most demanding area which is the one we’ll be using for our final benchmarks. So, consider these results are early tests (as we’ve seen a lot of people having issues even in this early area). And as said, there is currently a bug that can impact in-game performance when changing graphics settings. So, whenever you do such a change, you should re-launch the game, otherwise your GPU will be under-utilized.
Stay tuned for more!
John is the founder and Editor in Chief at DSOGaming. He is a PC gaming fan and highly supports the modding and indie communities. Before creating DSOGaming, John worked on numerous gaming websites. While he is a die-hard PC gamer, his gaming roots can be found on consoles. John loved – and still does – the 16-bit consoles, and considers SNES to be one of the best consoles. Still, the PC platform won him over consoles. That was mainly due to 3DFX and its iconic dedicated 3D accelerator graphics card, Voodoo 2. John has also written a higher degree thesis on the “The Evolution of PC graphics cards.”
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Having to restart after changing RT settings seems to be the norm these days with a lot of game engines for some reason …..
I have rtx 3070 and I don’t use rtx LMFAO waste of fps, especially since I play in 4k
3070 with its measly 8 GB VRAM? No wonder.
Oh comon, it’s not like games have magically increased hundredfold in fidelity over the past two years, yet somehow every game needs over 16GB of VRAM? Keep being the corporate mouth puppet you love pretending to be so much.
Two things can be true simultaneously. Yes, this game is optimized like crap and so are most of the other “AAA” games that have been released this year. But 8GB of VRAM is also pitiful in 2023. Recall the first mainstream GPU to have 8GB was thr R9 390, which came out in 2015 for $330.
In fact, one could call you a corporate mouth puppet for defending Nvidia for releasing an 8GB GPU for $500 in 2020.
In some games, even the 6700XT is much faster than the RTX3070, so obviously 8GB of VRAM is a real problem now.
https://youtu.be/fJc–C01P90
https://youtu.be/Rh7kFgHe21k
https://youtu.be/Rh7kFgHe21k
Thus the sarcasm.
Buys 3070. Buys 4k, We have a winner…
Other outless say that after relaunching the game RT is disabled, even if it shows that is enabled at the settings menu. And this is the reason for the increase in performance.
John is RT really enabled when you relaunch it? I mean, graphically does the game look like it is using RT?
RT works fine. There is also a scene that tanked the game’s performance on the RTX4090 (it’s when you first meet your crew, almost an hour or so in the game). That’s the cutscene we’ll use for our benchmarks (since it’s a really taxing cutscene, it will provide great results).
Honestly from that cutscene onwards my fps took a hard nosedive fairly frequently.
Without RT, GPU utilization and overall performance is fine on the AMD RX 7900XTX (over 80fps at all times). I’m trying to install the game now on the 9900K but the game constantly crashes, so unfortunately we might not be able to test it on an older CPU.
I heard about that RT issue as well and John is right, if you launch the game with RT it enabled, it is actually enabled. Toggling it off and on while in game will tank performance, however. There are only a few areas where you can tell RT is in use so I can see how others might get confused.
Ruined by AMD™
Ridiculous this sort of stuff isn’t caught and fixed before launch. The last game in the series was plagued with performance issues, some of which were never fixed.
The game’s running OK on a 2000+ bucks PC
John : Wow !!!!!!!!!!!
So here we are now, jumping of joy everytime a game runs good on a high end PC while this should be the norm, it’s all normal that devs are looking at us as the idiots who buy expansive hardware so we could overcome their laziness/incapacity to optimize their games
Word!
Graphical presentation aside this game is bland af , remove star wars brand from it will be DOA .
John turned into the spoiled kid in foruns whenever someone complain about bugs/optimization then he says: “works fine for me, stop being a noob”.
Pretty much, using top of the line hardware to gauge performance is pointless. That is how you get to the takes he has of some ports, like him claiming that Tlous was fine, even tough the Devs themselves said it was bad.
The point of this article was to give an idea of the GPU utilization on high-end CPUs, and whether it’s possible to get a smooth experience. A lot of people assumed that even the best CPUs are bottlenecking the game. And that’s true on NVIDIA’s side (though performance seemed fine, apart from the Senator ship scene). On AMD’s side, things are looking WAY better. We’ll have an article about this later tonight or tomorrow.
You just can’t win John …. Half the people here were griping because you were using a 9900k and now the other half are griping because you got a 7950X3D …..
You know what they say …. You can’t please everyone so you gotta please yourself
I don’t know about you, but getting 90 fps with raytracing at 4k sounds about right for a system with a 4090, considering I’m lucky enough to have one.
I came here to get away from PC Gamer and I’m still finding people whining about the silliest things.
“How dare you write an article about how it performs on a top-of-the-line system! How does it perform on less powerful systems?!”
Exercise some patience and wait.
I get a real kick out of people complaining about prices when my first PC in 1988 cost $1995 which is the equivalent of over $5000 in 2023 dollars …. Back then CPU’s couldn’t even do floating point math so you had to get a FPU AKA a math coprocessor which for the 386 ran from between $650 to $995 ($1,658 to $2,538) for any serious computation
$1995 got me a 80386SX CPU, motherboard, case, 40MB (not a typo) harddrive, 640k memory, 5 1/4″ floppy, 3 1/2″ floppy, keyboard, DOS OS and a 256 color monitor and video card
Back then a ATI Color Wonder 16 bit color (65,536) with 32kb SRAM capable of 600 x 800 resolution cost $449 or about $1,145.60 today. Back then you had to work your butt off just to get your foot in the PC door …. You all are spoiled by the advances MY generation made possible for all of you
Ok grandpa here’s the point, you’re talking like you did f*cking Omaha Beach while all you did is buying a potato for 1995$, when you see games running good and other looking as good but not running as fast on the same configuration, then there’s a problem, we have the right to expect optimized games and also games that are not filled with heavy DRMs that use the raw power of MY machine to f*ck up my experience.
From your standpoint we should not complain about something wrong just because it was worse in the past, if my car has a flaw i’ll just thank Jesus because people used to travel on horse…
I won’t miss having to deal with config.sys just to play games, boomer…
BACK IN MY DAY…You are embarrassing the rest of us with your price point reflection.
I get embarrassed by other 50-60 year olds who can’t keep up. You will have to tell me the memory trick of remembering your mother board number, VC, or did you just google and guess “close enough”? Because after the TRS80 it’s a blur.
And no, our generation did jack all. WE Americans are generational and JAPAN and CHINA are not . Post 1978 was all Chinese and Japanese innovation.
Stop being a clown
OH! Side note. I can tell you what I am running now, with a PP around 5400.00, but how does that relate to anything? Technology should outstrip software, and that has changed over the last decade, so these people have a right to be pissed.
I would also assume, based on the short-sighted, and biased view here, the whole gender identify thing annoys you as well 🙂 Best of some of us from Gen X just ..not use posting as a form of communication on line
You’re taking credit for what people 100x smarter than you did? Is that a source of pride? Your generation also completely screwed up the economy and the environment. Thanks for that one, by the way.
I know people who made more working at GM and have since retired than people do nowadays. Citing prices then and now isn’t as simple as googling inflation and currency numbers.
Stick to yelling at birds. No one cares about your old-world, out of touch views.
You guys really need to take a chill pill.
In a follow up to this article, he explains all the things wrong with this game. Like how it doesn’t work on anything less than leading edge hardware, the drm issues (3 layers of DRM is a bit much IMHO), and the like. All this post is saying, is his experience using the latest and greatest hw on the planet, not his actual feelings on the game itself.
I’m just glad I got it for free just by buying a Ryzen 9….had I paid the $60-80 they want to charge for this game, I’d be mad too.
By the time i wrote this comment the second article didn’t exist, being “pleasantly surprised” by a game with OK graphics running in OK manner on the best hardware you can get is just ridiculous, this shows how much the standards for optimization and polish went downhill and how High-end hardware owners overcoming these issues with raw power are ruining this for everybody with their classic “Works great for me, i don’t know why people are complaining”. This just conforts the devs and instead of working to further optimize their games they blame it on weak/average hardware, Respawn just did it this week blaming the performance issues on low-mid tier CPUs while there is nothing that justifies such high CPU requirement in this particular game.
I feel your pain. People shouldn’t have to have leading edge hardware just to play a game like this.
I’m lucky because I just did my every 5-year refresh on my hardware just in time for this release, but a year or two from now I’m going to be in your boat. And if they think I’m going to spend $3000 and up every year (and spend the several weeks it’s going to take to debug the mess) just to spend $60-80 on some shiny new game, they know where they can stick that.
I have enough games now I don’t need to constantly buy new releases. They need to earn my money, I don’t need to earn the right to buy their game.
*90 fps with FSR upscaling
Also that bit of the game runs fine, later on is when the fps takes a HARD nose dive.
So the day one patch works? Great.
Thank you sir..
This “gameplay” video sums up very well gaming in 2023. ?
Prisoners in handcuffs having to follow a linear path. lol Good symbol!
The only thing we can do now is tweak the graphic settings. Yay!
*runs for her life back to 90s gaming*
It’s just useless padding. If they really felt the need to include him walking in handcuffs, they should’ve done it in the form of a cutscene that doesn’t drag on. I’m getting tired of these useless faux gameplay segments developers have been shoving into singleplayer games because it’s “cinematic” or something.
Here we go again. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b26e9255471ad4f0ef5d89ec75ea01c136d918e20b0cfd2ce4dd176b0788f28.jpg
They make it even more confusing by using words like “frame loss“. You don’t “lose” frames. The engine gets through each render pass within a specific time depending on the hardware available. Lower FPS just means each render pass takes longer to complete.
Their statement is questionable. From “chipsets designed for Windows 11 encountering problems on Windows 10. To High-end GPUs coupled with lower performing CPU’s”. In other words they’re saying it’s the users fault not theirs. The wording of this statement sounds salty.
Age of Wonders 4 is coming out in a few days and is getting good reviews. It can run on a 2GB GPU, it has no Dunevo and you can get it fully DRM-free on GoG on launch.
Just so you know, there are still great games being released that don’t need a costly PC.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83c81cacc713dcce5c5d665e6c4e95ef7db68900a8432923cd5cfa674d61053b.jpg word from the developers about the PC low performance issues
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/83c81cacc713dcce5c5d665e6c4e95ef7db68900a8432923cd5cfa674d61053b.jpg word from the developers about the PC low performance issues
There’s a reason why Skill Up makes reviews on his lower end pc. So it represents the standard user out there. These ultra High end PC do not represent the average gamers rig. I don’t own the game, so I cant test it, but I have a EVGA 3080 Ti on an older Intel I9 9900K with 64 GB ram. Anyway, would like to play the game, just cant afford it right now. Anyone one want to donate a copy?
SkillUp also confirmed the game runs like sh*t on his 4090 PC.
YouTubee Daniel Owen confirmed it too.
Yep, I know, Pretty said isn’t it?
This article has some real Steam discussion forum “runs fine on my system” energy. I mean, I would certainly hope it runs well on such a top-of-the-line gaming PC.
Most of the issues with Jedi Survivor seem to be related to high VRAM usage, so I expect that, much like TLoU on PC, cards with larger VRAM pools will generally perform better.
This section is very early in the game and not at all representative of what happens shortly afterwards. Tested on a 7700x and 4090 and the GPU utilization gets very low. Did not try SMT off though but the game does stay above 60 fps with RT so it’s ok overall (Windows 11).
The RT on/off bit is interesting, mostly because it is very hard to tell when RT is actually on. But John is right in that turning it off then on again tanks performance, but when you start the game with it on, it is actually on and runs much better.
It runs like dogshit. Why is everyone judging a game by it first 10 minutes..
I was excited as well in the beginning, had 90-100fps as well in the first few minutes (4090, 5800x3d@3440×1440, all max+rt+nativ) it´s nothing special. But just continue and see for youself…the fps drop quickly, at the end of the starting level there is a hole area where the game drops and stays to 40 even 30fps.
The very next planet, first runs at 100+ fps fine, again continue and one step further it drops to 40 and stays. This game is an unoptimized mess even on high end pc.
“works for me on a 3000$ PC”
Thank you for that valuable insight
Duuuuuude. The game is so crap that when you exit and relaunch the game, ray tracing is not actally working!!!!!!
Dexter Morgan, Jedi
Thanks for this. Worked for me getting 90-100 fps unlocked but vsynced to 60 in 4k. 4080 7900x 32 gb ddr5