Last week, we shared the first gaming benchmarks between the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X and the Intel i7 6800K. And today, we have some more gaming benchmarks for you. These results come the Chinese website PCEVA, in which 10 PC games have been put to the test.
According to the results, AMD’s Ryzen 7 1700X is able to beat Intel’s i7 6800K in most tests.
It’s worth noting that AMD’s Ryzen 7 1700X will be priced at $399 while Intel’s i7 6800K is currently priced at $420. Not only that but Ryzen 7 1700X comes with 8 cores (i7 6800K features 6 cores), features a lower TDP and higher clock speeds.
The embargo for all third-party benchmarks will be lifted on March 2nd, so stay tuned for more.
Here are the new gaming benchmarks:
Counter-Strike: Globall Offensive
Ryzen 7 1700X: 298fps/289fps (average/minimum)
i7 6800K: 284fps/275fps (average/minimum)
Civilization 6
Ryzen 7 1700X: 71fps/53fps (average/minimum)
i7 6800K: 62fps/44fps (average/minimum)
Battlefield 1
Ryzen 7 1700X: 81.75fps (average)
i7 6800K: 82.15fps (average)
DOOM
Ryzen 7 1700X: 123fps (average)
i7 6800K: 122fps (average)
H1Z1 – King of the Hill
Ryzen 7 1700X: 87.63fps/75fps (average/minimum)
i7 6800K: 83.5fps/71fps (average/minimum)
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Ryzen 7 1700X: 46fps/30fps (average/minimum)
i7 6800K: 45fps/31fps (average/minimum)
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Ryzen 7 1700X: 39fps/32fps (average/minimum)
i7 6800K: 39fps/32fps (average/minimum)
World of Tanks
Ryzen 7 1700X: 117fps/107fps (average/minimum)
i7 6800K: 115fps/105fps (average/minimum)
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Ryzen 7 1700X: 87fps (average)
i7 6800K: 89fps (average)
Tom Clancy’s The Division
Ryzen 7 1700X: 64fps (average)
i7 6800K: 60fps (average)
HITMAN
Ryzen 7 1700X: 60fps (average)
i7 6800K: 59fps (average)
Ashes of the Singularity
Ryzen 7 1700X: 47fps (average)
i7 6800K: 45fps (average)
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Poor Intel, not.
i5 and i7 prices are already dropping… finally, AMD!
are they ?.
Not be a massive amount though.
who cares about 4core CPUs anyway 🙂
there are plenty of idiots that still think an old 2500 K is not a limitation at all.
It really isn’t unless you’re willing to lower your graphics settings for max framerate like in these benchmarks. Most sheeple play at framerates below 90 or even below 60! An i5 2500K won’t hold them back in any way. Ironically of course they would be the types to buy brand new high end hardware all the time without ever stopping to wonder if they really need it.
Majority of games – sure…
Majority of new games – don’t think so…
! I still get 144 frames on Titanfall 2 on 1080p with my i7 3770k, and I can not afford 27″ 144hz monitor, so, 3770k still have 2 more years in it before it goes below 60 frames….. no idiot here, just money smart 🙂
Until games start using more than 4 cores then plenty of people will care. Enjoy throwing money away to get your 8 cores when games won’t use them.
There are games that require 4 core minimum, like Battlefield 1.
Both consoles have 8 cores, that needs to be utilized to get good enough performance. No serious game developer ignore multicore today!
They aren’t.
That was a Microcenter sale, one they have -every- time this year.
Good good. Amd getting back in the game. Now now. Can’t wait to see what’s nvidia and amd got in their plans for tomorrow.
Seems there are more than just in the game, they rule it. How is that even possible?
“Ruling the game” is a stretch. They’re coming very close to Intel’s current performance as opposed to exceeding it, and under cutting them on price. You can be damn sure Intel will answer back soon enough. Still, I’m thrilled to finally see good competition in the CPU space again.
They’ve done it before, in the Athlon VS P4 era. They could have done it with their FX line, had software been more multithreaded-friendly back then.
Those Athlons kicked some serious a*s.
in performance yes, but even then intel was gaining marketshare! Even when AMD had better CPU in every aspect. Intel is in pretty bad position (they made bad acquisitions, they dont have money for new process node, ARM war was disaster that cost them billions and bring nothing – billions that x86 buyers had to partially pay of BTW), so I they will very likely use same practice as it was working incredibly well for them in the past.
I remember them. I think my first two PCs had Athlons. They were beasts.
A64 was best amd architecture, ryzen could be even better. Bulldozer on the other hand was very ahead of its time, problem was slow cache due automatic layout they had to use. They did not have money because of intel’s unfair business practices, which today wont be hopefully case.
Rule it ? They rule jaksht. Give’em time though. And market shares shall even out in amd’s favor.
I want to see more of the 1800 model going against Intel’s highest tbh.
Well, Intel’s current king of the hill (i7 6950X) is a 10C/20T CPU vs the 8C/16T of Ryzen. That said, it’s also 1,700 f*cking dollars.
It’s a halo chip just like the 1800X to Ryzen. No one would buy them, just for showing.
Always good to see the underdog scoring a win. Nice work Jim Keller. Investors are quite happy with AMD over the last year. A year ago AMD shares were trading for around $2 and today they’re at a little over $15. Anyone buying in on AMD stock a year ago is sitting on a fat 750% profit if they sell today.
Underdog?
Only that the chance of getting that 750% is like winning a lottery. Just saying.
It seems Intel is trying to manipulate Ryzen launch. Intel PR department is contacting media and calling in favors in a shameless attempt to influence upcoming benchmark scores in their favor, by giving them ‘guidelines’ in how to benchmarck AMD CPUs.
Intel’s PR emails are including this line: ‘call us before you write’.
Remember the Pentium 4 launch disaster and Intel basically bribing PC manufacturers like Dell not to use AMD CPU’s in their PC’s. It’s happening again…
Which resolutions are these tests in? If 1080 ultra, can we see how badly optimized some of the games are? Use the freaking cores goddamit.
As if multi-threaded programming is that easy. I am a software engineer Btw.
it just takes time and talent. But this dual core lock reached its zenith couple years back.
According to leaks, xbox scorpio will also use AMD ryzen/vega, and on top of that it will feature some new groundbreaking architecture that will enable 4K resolution and also 60 fps level of performance. For too many years AMD was lagging behind intel and nvidia, so I hope this leaked information is true, although it sounds too good to be true 🙂
Below that info
“”I have absolute 100% inside factual information from a very close
acquaintance of mine who has been working with an official Xbox Scorpio
dev kit which his development team received from Microsoft back in
November 2016. The developer is from a major 1st party studio and the
information he has provided me is 100% accurate.
The developer confirmed that the 343 industries developer who a few
weeks ago publicly stated how the Xbox Scorpio was far more beefier than
originally expected was absolutely correct as the console wasn’t
downgraded at all but rather the exact opposite. The Xbox Scorpio is
using a brand new completely custom console only specific architecture
that’s using an all new rendering method which allows for an ultra
efficient almost ZERO LATENCY communication between the system CPU &
GPU which allows for a nearly 60% higher graphical rendering
performance when compared to what’s currently available on Pc graphics
cards and or current game consoles.
The new architecture essentially allows for the Xbox Scorpio to take 6
teraflops worth of GPU compute power and render that 6 teraflops at 60%
higher than the exact same Pc graphics card in a Pc which means that the
Xbox Scorpio 6 teraflops of GPU COMPUTE POWER IS EQUIVALENT TO a 9.6
teraflop Pc graphics card. The new custom architecture was developed in
collaboration between Microsoft & AMD designed specifically for Xbox
Scorpio and the new communication method IS 100% fully patented from
Microsoft specifically for the Xbox Scorpio. The way in which Microsoft
was able to develop and patent this new custom architecture was because
Microsoft funded nearly 40% of the research n development costs
associated with ZEN/VEGA in exchange for not jus the ability to develop
and patent this brand new custom console only architecture communication
method specifically for Xbox Scorpio only but in addition Microsoft
also in return was able to secure an extremely cost efficient price on
the new Xbox Scorpio chipsets from AMD WHICH ARE ABSOLUTELY 100%
ZEN/VEGA based chipsets. The CPU inside the Xbox Scorpio is an 8 CORE
RYZEN SUMMIT RIDGE R5 CPU @ 2.8ghz, and the graphics chip inside Xbox
Scorpio is a custom designed AMD VEGA GPU 6.2 teraflop GPU @ 970mhz.
The Xbox Scorpio is also using 12gb of gddr5x memory with 320gb per
second memory bandwidth. Those specs are the exact specs and exact
hardware that’s currently used inside the Xbox Scorpio dev kits as they
are all using early engineering samples of both the RYZEN CPU & VEGA
GPU. I was also informed that currently right now developers have
numerous games that are currently up and running on the Xbox Scorpio dev
kits. The games that I was told so far which are being tested n
benchmarked that are currently running NATIVE 4K 60fps on Xbox Scorpio
dev kits are as follows……. DOOM 4K 60fps (Pc ultra
equivalent)BATTLEFIELD 4K 60fps (Pc ultra equivalent) HALO 5 (4K 60fps
Xbox One equivalent) WITCHER 3 (4K 60fps Pc ultra equivalent) FALLOUT 4
(4K 60fps Pc ultra equivalent) Those games are all currently running at
NATIVE 4K on the Xbox Scorpio dev kits, and while they’re definitely
more games being tested n benchmarked internally by different
development teams I was told that the ones I listed above are the only
games that my sources own personal development team has seen 1st hand
running NATIVE 4K 60fps.
I was informed that the reason 343 industries developer came out and
publicly expressed the fact that Xbox Scorpio was far beefier than
originally expected isn’t because the hardware itself is beefier or
upgraded but BECAUSE DEVELOPERS HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA THAT MICROSOFT
& AMD had developed a brand new custom architecture that’s console
specific for XBOX SCORPIO which is why so far apparently the system is
running NATIVE 4K 60fps at the Pc ultra setting equivalent without even
putting the hardware under full load where essentially Xbox Scorpio dev
kits are rendering these games at NATIVE 4K 60fps with a lot of wiggle
room as the hardware isn’t being pushed anywhere near its full
capabilities as the new architecture is the biggest jump in graphical
rendering power efficiency since the Xbox 360 launched with a custom and
Radeon GPU which had the first ever unified memory architecture that
wasn’t available on Pc graphics cards at the time which is why when Xbox
360 launched there wasn’t a Pc graphics card on the market that could
compete with Xbox 360. I was told that this time around Pc graphics cards won’t be able to adopt this new architecture AS MICROSOFT HAS FULLY PATENTED THIS NEW ARCHITECTURE AS XBOX SCORPIO CONSOLE SPECIFIC which means neither Pc nor PlayStation will be able to use and or develop graphics chipsets using this new
architecture as it’s fully custom and designed specifically for Xbox
Scorpio.
The last thing I wanna share is that at least in the case of my specific
source I was told that internally when testing and benchmarking the
Xbox Scorpio dev kits the graphical rendering performance is on par with
the NVIDIA TITAN X PASCAL in terms of 4K rendering power and that’s
using an early engineering sample of the RYZEN/VEGA chipset which I was
told the final chipset used in Xbox Scorpio will be roughly 15% more
power efficient than what’s being used in the dev kit as AMD are still
tweaking and optimizing the specific APU being used for Xbox Scorpio.
I was also informed that in addition to the overall graphics rendering
power Xbox Scorpio also has the absolute fastest GAMING CPU in the world
right now as the RYZEN CPU IS THE 8 core 8 thread R5 version and it’s
faster in both single core and multi threaded applications than the
intel i7-6900k CPU and while Xbox Scorpio isn’t getting the RYZEN r7 CPU
which has 8 cores 16 threads I was told it honestly won’t make any
difference for Xbox Scorpio, however the 8 core 8 thread R5 version is
significantly cheaper and vastly more power efficient than the highest
end 8 core 16 thread R7 version and that’s why Microsoft has chosen to
run with the RYZEN R5 version with 8 cores 8 threads.
TRUST ME GUYS WHAT IVE SAID IS ABSOLUTELY THE REAL DEAL AND APPARENTLY
MICROSOFT WILL BE SHARING DETAILS REGARDING THE NEW RYZEN/VEGA APU and
also the new custom patented Xbox Scorpio architecture sometime around
and or at this years upcoming E3 convention. Also guys THE LAUNCH PRICE WILL BE $599.00 dollars and believe me this kind of technology n power n capabilities are more than worth this price.
I saw gameplay videos on YT, and TitanX Pascal runs witcher 3 ultra (4K resolution) with 50-60fps even in demanding scenario, and without hairworks with rock solid 60fps already. But of course thats without mods (on PC you can use mods as you know, for example texture mods), while on console all you have is just vanilla game.
Just type that into YT search:
Witcher 3 – 4K Maxed Out – Titan X Pascal + i7 6950x @ 4,5 Ghz – PKB
But just remember that’s OCed titanXP and also not that demanding scenario, performance will dip to 50fps in demanding scenarios on stock titanXP, so thats why it’s better to turn off hairworks.
Also there’s digital foundry video on YT:
Titan X Pascal: 4K/60fps Gameplay – Top-Tier Games Tested!
60 fps on titanXP without hairworks
That 70fps was on OCed titanXP, and in digital foundry video you can see stock titanXP (also 60fps in witcher 3, but without hairworks).
What makes me think scorpio will have tixanXP power? That leak says so, but even looking at PS4 pro GPU (polaris architecture) I’m amazed how fast 4.3 tflops GPU in console can be. Some games on PS4 pro runs games in very damanding seetings, that on PC reguires something like 980ti on PC (infinite warfare on PS4 pro runs in very high resolution and even better framerate than standard PS4), and Vega architecture is MUCH FASTER compared to Polaris. There’s a video showing how Vega runs star wars battlefront 2 in 4K, ultra settings, and basically there is titanXP level of performance (60fps+). Of course scorpio will not get the most expensive (high end) GPU from AMD in Vega architecture, it will be more like mid tier GPU (just 6.2 tflops) in Vega architecture, but if Microsoft indeed made that groundbraking architecture in scorpio (that this quoted info mention), then I think it’s really possible that scoripo will approach TitanX Pascal level of performance (and based on their previous consoles you can already see, that they like to surprise people with groundbraking technology in their consoles).
It’s is star wars battlefront (I’m looking at that video right now and it’s Endor Map, the most demanding map in star war battlefront), and this is not lightweight game in that resolution and ultra settings, 1080GTX scores just 47-51 fps in the same settings (see for yourself in techspot benchmark charts from Endor map), and titanXP 61-67fps, so that Vega GPU rival titanXP level of performance because it also provide 60fps in the most demanding map.
Your video is correct, but this is not Endor map! Endor map is twice as demanding (because there are trees and vegetation everywhere) and no longer rus so fast on 1080GTX (just 47-51fps). AMD for this vega presentation have used Endor map. Go see titanXP card review on “techspot” site, and see for yourself, 1080GTX scores 47-51 fps in their benchmark. This is no lightweigh game, at least on that setting and this particular map.
Just type this into YT search: AMD Ryzen + Vega Shown Off At CES
(it’s video uploaded by thinkcomputers)
As you can see this is Endor map, there’s a lot of trees and vegetation everywhere, but even so we can see locked 60fps on Vega GPU. 1080GTX scores just 47-51fps in that Endor map, it’s very demanding map.
56fps, so I belive it was OCed 1080GTX. Stock 1080GTX go as low as 47fps in that map.
Of course we need to wait for official Vega GPUs benchmarks in order to see full unlocked fps etc. but looking at this video I can already see Vega performance will rival the best Nv GPU’s. To be honest I think Vega will offer performance something between 1080GTX and TitanXP, but at lower price
It doesnt exist on PC lineup, but consoles are different story, and console technology lineup never fallows PC lineup. Something tells me that this leak is true, because microsoft done something like that before, in fact twice already, because their consoles xbox 1 (classic) and xbox 360 were also revolutionary at the time (shaders technology in xbox classic were revolutionary, and unified shaders in xbox 360 also).
Microsoft had funded research costs associated with NV2A used in xbox (geforce 3 technology), and shaders were indeed groundbraking technology at that time. I think microsoft have realized their mistake with xbox one (they made console with cheap parts), and they will make once again very powerful console now (xbox scorpio).
AMD confirmed Ryzen in Xbox Scorpio at CES 2017
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So ryzen on scorpio is a fact, and it looks like that leak that I have quoted is true.
For now people doubted that scorpio will use ryzen, but this picture shows that it will indeed use ryzen. So that info was already correct in some major parts. You doubt we will see console hardware pushing 4K and 60fps in games? Right now I dont have new gen console, but if indeed scorpio will push 4K and 60fps, I will stop buying better PC parts (I will keep my PC with i5 3570K 4,5GHz and 1070GTX) and I will buy this console myself. 599$ for scorpio is less than what 1080ti or next nvidia GPU will cost.
PS4 is already running battlefield 4K thanks to checkerboard rendering (of course it looks more like 1440p), and scorpio will use much better Vega architecture with more tflops and possible groundbraking technology behind scorprio that may improve 6.2 tflops Vega architecture RAW rendering performance by 60%, so it should run PS4 level of picture quality of quality with 120fps, and, and native 4K 60fps without any gimmicks (like checkerboard upscaling).
So far you doubted many things, for example you doubted that titanXP can run witcher 3 in 4K/60fps, and you also dobuted when I told you, that 1080GTX cant provie 60fps in battlefront star wars. Man, if microsoft will indeed deliver what that leak suggets (and already 343 industries developer revealed that scorpio is far more beefier than
originally expected, and even this picture above suggest ryzen), then people like you will cry seeing console delivering 4K/60fps quality in games. I dont know what PC you have, but my 1070GTX cant provide 60fps in 4K (well maybe in low details, but that’s not something I like to see anyway)
It depends how far you sit from the screen. If you sit at normal viewing distance, then even 900p/1080p looks fine on HDTV and I have perfect (20/16) eyesight, not to mention 1440p checkerboarded to 4K (I dont have PS4 Pro but I saw great picture quality is). Of course some people can buy 60 HDTV and sit close to it like 1m distance and see checkerboard artifacts, but that’s extreme thing to do, and scorpio will most likely provide native 4K anyway.
On ps3 or xbox360 generation picture quality was ineed a problem on big HDTV, but on PS4 that quality was already much better, and now PS4 Pro is running games at 1440p checkerboard to 4K, so I’m impressed myself already (and I’m PC enthusiast since 3dfx times), and scorpio will most likely push that quality even further. Of course you always buy 4x SLI tinanXP (and that setup runs battlefield 4 in 8K even in 100-140fps), but that setup will cost something like 5000 US$, while console is even cheaper than single GPU.
Maybe you are willing to pay 10x more for small improvement in multiplatform games, but even with that power you will not play many great (console exclusive) games. I’m looking at Horizon screenshots and it looks better than many UE4 tech demos. I no longer see any point in buyuing better PC parts. I have paid for 1070GTX (that’s mid tier Pascal card) the same amount of money like for my old 8800Ultra, and titanXP is even 2x more expensive than my previous GPU 680GTX. I can no longer buy Nvidia top end GPU in the same price. On top of that on PC AAA exclisive games are no longer made besides star citizen (and who knows how good that game will be, something tels me it will not be as good as they promised), that could justify somehow huge PC GPU prices. Sorry, but with scorpio ineed pushing 4K/60fps I will no longer see any point in buying PC hardware (and when it comes to controls, I alraedy prefer gamepad even now on PC), I will keep my 3570 and 1070GTX without upgrading it and buy myself scorpio instead.
When I was young I was playing on KB+M (quake on unreal tournament), and in some fps games like (and KB+M is still preferable). But after I learned playing on wired gamepad (there’s a big difference between x360 wired and wireless gamepad, I can aim so smooth on wireless gamepad) I can aim fast enough even in FPS games, and most importantly I have more fun aiming on gamepad, that’s what I feel.
Although I’m planing to buy scorpio, even ps4 exclusives looks SUPERB now, so I think I will end up buying both consoles :P. Look at these two screenshots, these are ingame screenshots from neogaf console screenshot thread, not some promotional bullshots. This game looks wayyy better than even Wicher 3, it runs in 1440p with HDR
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Look at the tagline: “New Horizon” aka Ryzen
Go Red Team!
Always happy to see AMD win…they atleast innovate. Anything complately new always comes out of AMD…
Why is noone interested in the 1700? That’s a much more affordable chip, one people are more likely to buy.
The methodology in nonsensical.
39 FPS average on a CPU test?
wtf AMD? this is the exact same price as Intel
I agree that price looks same now – but I like to think that AMD R7 series’ beef is with i7 6800k, 69XX series in general than their 4-core counterparts.
If you look at i7 6800K, its single thread score is lesser than i7 6700K. Intel did not market 6800K for gamers (or similar type of users). They are for content creators who prefer good multiple core and SMT performance. I think R7 launch is for them, not for usual PC users.
I hope that R5 series (6 core and 4 core models) is what matters to gamers and normal PC users. If leaks are to be believed, R5 models are clocked little higher than R7 and seems to be the correct match for 7700K and 7600K. R5 series likely to be less than 200 USD – considering R7 pricing. if R5 single thread performance beats R7 performance (just like i7 6700K beats 6800K is Single threaded), then we are looking at a 250 chips (7600K and 7700K).
But that’s just my take on the scenario.
I am looking out for R5 1600X (6/12) and R5 1400X (4/8). R5 1400X has higher clock but 1600X has more L3 cache and 2 more cores. So, I guess it depends on the benchmarks finally.
[Edit] – if AMD puts R5 around 250 USD like 7600K and matches it- I guess you are right that AMD is using similar price points.
Seem like a lot of AMD investors here.
Games rarely use all the cores. 4 cores are more than enough for games (if they use at all). Some RTS games probably do. So, it doesn’t matter, whether you have 4/6/8 cores. Other things like IPC, core frequency matter a lot than the number of cores. For multi-threaded apps like content rendering, or streaming stuff at the same time as gaming, encoding – they use multiple cores – there you will see difference of cores.
Considering that I think, AMD matched core-to-core performance with Intel as games use only fewer cores irrespective of total number of cores available.
BTW – i7 6700K is 4/8 not 6/12. Did you mean 6800K?
My OCed 6800k will destroy this 1700x if it doesnt overclock to my 4.5GHZ all cores and x35 cache OC, quad channel 3400mhz ddr4 @ Cas 16 rig.Not to mention, the chip only has 20 PCIe lanes? Mine has 28! Not to mention, the 1700x has 2 more cores!!
After all the hype….you can save $30 and win few fps here and there… whooo
Why are they competing it against a 6800k? Nice cherry picked test
I think these results are lmited because of GPU and doesnt show real performance. For example deus ex score (39fps) clearly suggest that GPU was bottleneck in that test, not CPU. I dont know what GPU they have used but even my i5 3570 and 1070GTX runs deus ex better than 39fps.
it doesnt matter fan boys are always fan boys.people who buy intel will still buy intel even if amd has a better chip.
what im waiting to see is how these bias reviewers fake benchmarks to make intel look better and you know the ones that will.
My only issue is, if I do get the money for a new CPU – (Whatever money I do have is going to the 490x or whatever comes out that’s a single-card and what’s best from AMD) – my only fear is that my motherboard won’t support the chip, it’s a 2012 board but, I’ll have to see and hope it’s compatible, getting a new Mobo would be a lot of work >_>