EA has lifted the review embargo for Star Wars Jedi: Survivor and from the looks of it, this game is coming in hot on PC. According to reports, the game currently has major CPU and VRAM optimization issues on PC.
GameStar has shared the following gameplay video from the PC review code of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor. For their review, GameStar used an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X with 32GB of RAM and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. And, even at 1440p, the Ryzen 9 5900X is unable to maintain even 50fps.
In the video, we can clearly see the NVIDIA RTX4090 being underused. For the most part, NVIDIA’s graphics card is used at around 35-60%.
Thankfully, GameStar has included an MSI Afterburner overlay in the video. As we can see, the game’s PC review build can mainly use 4 CPU threads so I don’t really know what is causing this CPU bottleneck. From the looks of it, the game does not rely on one CPU core/thread like Gotham Knights or The Callisto Protocol did.
PCMRace also reports that the game has enormous VRAM requirements. An NVIDIA RTX 3080Ti is unable to run the game in 4K, mainly due to VRAM limitations. Yeap, this is another VRAM-hungry PC game.
In fact, we can see in GameStar’s video the game using up to 18GB of VRAM at 1440p. What in the hell is going on here?
As we’ve already said, EA has not provided us with a review code. And in case you’re wondering, both PS5 and Xbox Series X appear to have performance issues. In other words, the game has performance issues on all platforms.
We’ll be sure to share our initial performance thoughts once the game unlocks on April 28th!
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“VRAM optimization issues” are already the defining feature of this generation of console ports on PC. we’ll be dealing with this nonsense for a decade now.
GPU usage below 40% …………. WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont think AAA has a decade left with these kind of products i am almost done with AAA games at this point.
Another amd sponsored title with bloated vram requirements and no dlss. Those knuckleheads are part of the problem.
It’s okay when Nvidia pays for such things but when it’s on a amd game it’s sabotage? It’s not like they made fsr and other tech free to use for nvidiots,right?
Pays for such things as what? Nvidia does not shut out FSR on any title they sponsor while AMD obviously forbids it. It’s backwards. If this were nvidia sponsored, the game would be no worse than it is right now, but would get some vram optimizations, a half decent RT option, and DLSS 2/3. They also generally don’t run worse on AMD hardware. Meanwhile, AMD sponsored games are made worse than they could otherwise be. It’s pathetic.
it’s fine really, John has been off his meds lately. It’s literally like someone has hijacked his account and started spurring nonsense.
Dont be a company shill, both have done their part of ruining gamers life, from Adaptive Sync/Gsync to price fixing during cryptocraze…
Any game that doesn’t feature DLSS, ESPECIALLY on Unreal where it’s stupidly easily to implement is a paid bribe from AMD. F@%^$ AMD for doing that and you are a fanboy if you think it’s ok or fine. FSR also sucks compared to DLSS, especially at resolutions lower than 4k. See Hardware Unboxed videos comparing them. DLSS implementation means you can also mod in DLAA which looks even better.
BTW Jedi Fallen Order 1 was a blurry mess with temporal AA. Want to know the only fix? DLSS/DLAA. Same as every Unreal game. You had to apply cas.fx in reshade or lumasharpen to even make the game look decent. A DLAA mod would do this without sharpening which gives you shimmer.
Gold.
guess you haven’t seen LoTR Gollum requirements yet????? RTX 4080 WITH DLSS Performance mode…lmfao. But yea blame AMD. Damn green cultists.
That’s 4K Ultra with RT though. And system requirements are often hogwash. We’ll see how it actually runs.
CPU & RAM MAjor Issues !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You dumps just look at GPU usage , it’s below 40% …………. Hello !!!
the 5900X is more than capable to maintain 200+ fps
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Looks the same as Jedi Fallen Order but is insanely unoptimized? Yup, sure sounds like a 2023 released. I guess firing every coder and replacing them with blue haired Feminazis didn’t help things. Glad it’s working out for ya, game companies.
They replaced their game devs with Ninja?
Ninja or any pastel haired halfwit. Everyone is welcome, but as soon as we sniff coding skill, you’re out.
Don’t be too hard on the devs. They usually know how to make games, but management doesn’t give them enough time to do it properly so they have to release trash instead of a properly working game.
No, just the makefile.
The stuttering is very similar to RE8. My money is on denuvo.
I upvoted your comment but you’re still an unwashed leftist peasant, don’t get too excited
I take shower twice a day.
Then why not withold the upvote? What he says is hardly original.
because he is a confused child, we need to support his journey towards the red pill
Yesterday, he went on a downvote rampage. The fact that he thinks his downvotes matter hit me in the right spot.
No, he is a left leaning troll fishing for reaction from our side. Some people are better off cutting all form of contact, right wingers have this fantasy that the other side is confused when it is pretty clear they hate us and will make their life mission to destroy us.
I get your point, but he is more than a classic redditor normaltard. I think he’s a schizo. he’s confusing me with his mental illness. also, he wont go away. I thought upvoting him might feed his bloated ego and he goes away. I was perhaps wrong
Good thing Denuvo is also part of the console releases… oh wai-
The poor VRAM utilization is what is preventing the game from properly utilizing the GPU.
RE8’s case is really different. The problems with that game were caused by their antitamper tech, which does run at all points, checking for changes in the game functions in memory.
Don’t get me wrong, we can all agree of how sh*t Denuvo is, but it isn’t exactly the thing to blame in RE8.
Looks like you’ve copy pasted the right things but you don’t understand them. It’s comedic.
Don’t forget the story as well. Merrin now likes girls because Sam Maggs likes girls. She also now has her stupid butch haircut. Who wants to bet Cal ends up liking dudes in the DLC in the bait and switch, just like TLOU and Horizon Zero Dawn. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5915ec1f3085120ea844fff0c0bb2e304fc1c2be0324116548e8c8a795e285e7.jpg
Oh right, I almost forgot Sam “I hate gamers” Maggs had a hand in this game, definitely an avoid for me.
The rainbow fascists will be replaced by code generating ai in 3 2 1! From what I am hearing within a couple of years to get game codes threaded for 16 cores/32 threads.
Cant be more agree, that feminazis in HR, Finance, and Art/modeller reduce potential recruitment for technical coder/programmer because they will fired the eccentric programming guys in a hoodie that didnt give a d*mn about politics in their company
Who can play this trash then ?
I expect Mostly Negative reviews at launch and day after that a fake apology from the devs.
“We are sorry that SOME users are experiencing problems with our game”.
Are you from the future ?? 😀
Yes.
Another crappy pc port
woooo hooo another denuvo mess.
AMD stuff as always…
Their success on consoles and failure on PC has turned them into an effectively anti-PC company sadly. they have zero economic incentive for games they support to run well on PC, since running well would mean running well on nvidia GPUs.
They should stick to making hardware and stop sponsoring PC games, every title they touched lately ended up being a total mess, and if you add Denuvo and incompetent devs on top, we’re good
Dead island 2 is a wonderful port
Just like Nvidia didn’t make Cyberpunk 2077 the mess it was, AMD didn’t make those games the mess they are. Sure, they could pay the devs to inflate those VRAM requirements some to make their cards look better, but they’re not deliberately asking for broken games. (Or maybe they’re indeed trying to push PC gamers to consoles so they can profit from console chips and make Nvidia suffer at the same time, though I don’t like to entertain that conspiracy theory.)
Unfortunately, fresh developers have two mindsets:
1. ‘It’s okay to release games broken because there’s Internet everywhere and patches. Why not use them?’
2. ‘I’m going to throw whatever I feel like into this scene and not care how it performs. Optimisation is not focused on as it used to be. If you don’t have the hardware to run it, it’s your problem. Either lower the settings or pay for faster hardware.’
They didn’t learn how to do things the hard way. No tricks. No memory management. Not working with sophisticated or limited hardware. And, unfortunately for them, the oldies kept nagging Microsoft for more to the metal DirectX, but now those oldies are out and the freshmen have to learn DirectX 12 and its whole ‘putting control in the hands of devs’ purpose. The tools have never been this easy and UE5 basically does all the heavy lifting, but this trend of broken releases will continue.
In some interviews with devs online they regurgitate the same thing. They want the average PC gamer to have high clocked 8 cores (they still don’t know what to do with more threads), 32GB of RAM, GPU with 16GB of VRAM and a fairly fast SSD (anything from 3000MB up is fine).
Dead Island 2 says hello. Bet when all the Nvidia sponsoed games sucked you did not cry about it LOL
LoTR Gollum, a NVIDIA game requires an RTX 4080 WITH DLSS PERFORMANCE MODE while looking like an early PS4 game with ray tracing lathered on.
It’s CPU requirement is intel i3 from 2016…lmao.
Can’t wait for a new “review bomb”. These devs never learns.
This again… sigh.
3080 ti should be able to 4k60 anything ps5 can 4k30 or 1440p60, well actually far more.
EEAAAhahahaha!!
Yuck!!!! https://media3.giphy.com/media/rOJvPDsG3StAk/giphy.gif
Classic scam is being pulled on pc market atm. All of a sudden 8gb vram is ultra low but 16gb vram is good. And game literally looks the same as Jedi fallen order.
Exactly, it’s a marketing strategy to let people concentrate on game optimization issue, and GPU companies sell their GPUs.
oho Look they release a game unoptimized! These games are left intentionally this way, so Nvidia, AMD and Intel can sell their hardware. So f them!
It’s entitled developers with purple and blue hair who don’t want to bake anything or do any hard work or optimization. The funny thing is they are so lazy and bad at their job they can’t even do this MINIMAL amount of work on a third party game engine that does almost everything for them.
The lead is a old bald white guy ….. And all his games were developed on DX11 and he’s too lazy to learn something new like DX12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stig_Asmussen
He’s the lead story guy. Now link the visual artists and tech people on the game. Spoiler, they all have pronouns or furry avatars and they were hired for peanuts by a studio that is now really owned by Blackrock, Vanguard and Morgan Stanley. It’s why every female character in a game now looks like a dude. So these weirdos can feel better about their fraudulent identity. They are hired because that’s the propaganda the banker fronts want to indoctrinate people like you with.
Have fun going broke in this industry. This game will lose 100 million dollars.
Dude you need to stop watching fox news, your brain is rotting, real fast
It is not a scam. They simply develop their games for consoles that have 16GB vram. Too bad your PC does not have 16GB Vram as well
How you will sell hardware, if your game runs perfect with an old hardware. I will tell you, it’s simple you don’t need high IQ, just realest hype games unoptimized. Stop finding them excuses, this big companies, and people in general, don’t give a damn about you and me! This is how world works, from the start, self-interest! Pay media, small, big websites, and that’s it!
Stop defending woke weirdos Devs / Publisher
This is PS5 title only and it runs great on most hardware
https://youtu.be/3sNsMxrDEdc
Na’tane auto to mono zitima kala tha’tan. Tin epomenh fora p tha thes na paikseis ena skatomizero paixnidi k den tha mporeis skepsu auto: “Nvidia/AMD are in cahoots with game studios since sliced bread”.
Na’tane auto to mono zitima kala tha’tan. Tin epomenh fora p tha thes na paikseis ena skatomizero paixnidi k den tha mporeis skepsu auto: “Nvidia/AMD are in cahoots with game studios since sliced bread”.
AMD is pure garbage. I bet it’s 100% their fault.
also
“RTX 3080Ti is unable to run the game in 4K” wtf, who tries to play in 4K with a 3080 Ti. 4K is flagship territory fkng gaming journo soyboys need a proper fatherly beating
RE4 remake, RE Village, Dead Island 2 say hello.
are you alright son ? Had a bad day ? it’s a rough life isn’t it ? PC gaming is giving you triggers a lot i can see. Maybe you should take a break for a while, do something you actualy love. Maybe its good for you.
No kidding ….. Can you imagine what it is like to be this frigging miserable all the time? It’s just not good for your mental well being
nah, AMD sucks. don’t buy. thank me later.
The 3080 can handle 4K dude, you sound really misinformed.
Apparently not if it needs more than 10-12GB.
Whether anything should even at 4K is a legitimate question.
Everybody has a 4K TV that they might want to game on. 4K should always be supported by games. And modern GPUs should be able to run a game at 4K60 even with DLSS/FSR. This is not the 2000s.
I have literally used that card with cyberpunk punk max settings and psycho rt. I have a 3090ti and 4090 rig. I even have a 2080 rig. Trust me, I know what I am talking about.
no I’m awesome
all you green f*gs will disappear from Lord of the Rings Gollum comment sections.
I’m sure it’s AMD’s fault their don’t have CPU overhead in drivers in DX12, lol.
Nvidia is never at fault. /s
Nvidia’s boots now:
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So EA Dev’s can’t use Unreal4 right but Deep Silver Dambuster Studios can? Hilarous.
why are people even buying these Mid A*** games
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All this vram debacle just indicates how much the devs don’t care about pc optimization. They should be able optimize the recent game’s memory management, but they won’t because it’s easier to leave that at brute forcing with high end systems.
Just like it was with shader compilation stutters.
So, this sh*t just became the default status of any game now, dont?
What game inst a complete unoptimized sh*t, at least at launch?
Denuvo at least partially to blame. But beyond that I’d be interested to see the performance on a top end CPU instead of something like the 5900x. 7800X3D or 13900K with proper low latency memory. Not that the performance is excusable but just for science.
Garbage performance and the game has denuvo, what a surprise.
This is gonna be fun to watch, all the people who bought nvidia cards with 8-10-12 gigs of vram unable to run the game in 4K lol
Triple A is about to implode just like Hollywood that lost 500 billion last year. It was hijacked by the same banker fronts (Vanguard, Blackrock and Morgan Stanley) and they have pushed and bullied out all the talent for incompetent, entitled activists they pay nothing to. They know making Merrin and Cal like the same sex, just like they did with Ellie and Aloy won’t sell games, so they cut every cost they can.
These developers are so lazy that they can’t even be bothered to optimize a third party engine, let alone make their own like the game developers of old. This is the future of Triple A games. Mental illness hired to write the book tie in, where they make Merrin a self insert character with the same stupid haircut. Oh and her clown husband she married from Bioware that she cucked with other women was the producer. She just left him lol.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5915ec1f3085120ea844fff0c0bb2e304fc1c2be0324116548e8c8a795e285e7.jpg
“Triple A is about to implode just like Hollywood that lost 500 billion last year”
God willing.
Did they turn the main character into a bundle of sticks?
The thing that gets me is the PS5 and Series X only use 8 GB of VRAM most of the time although they can do 10 GB it limits the CPU to only 6 GB and restricts the framerate to 30 FPS ……
From what I’ve been told the consoles use unified memory, and that needs to be changed and the game needs to divide the use between RAM and VRAM on the PC version, something these devs are not doing properly, or at all.
Imagine getting into pc gaming in 2023.
-you pay outrageous prices for GPU with power cables that literally caught fire
-you pay outrageous prices for AMD CPU that are now also catching fire
-you have to deal with Denuvo on Steam
-you have to deal with stuttering, unoptimized ports and developers who don’t care one iota about the platform anymore
PC gaming is great if you play older games and indie games from GoG or something, using a cheap PC you use to work on.
But buying overpriced PC gaming hardware to play broken “AAA” PC games with Denuvo junk is an outright scam at this point.
Your pc catching fire adds realism to fps games. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
I was discussing the same topic with my brother and a friend(only 2 people I know that game on PC) the other day, that if it wasn’t for the emulators and the “green steam”, I’d go back to consoles or stop gaming entirely. This industry is becoming worse than the film industry and it’s not even funny anymore.
I just tried the SF6 demo. It shows a DRM splash screen on PC that I can’t confirm because the button is out of reach and you can’t change the resolution before you get past the splash screen. Of course it’s a japanese game so they have no keyboard support.
How did PC gaming become such a disaster.
Back to my old PC games from the 90s that actually work.
Yeah, I’ve been gaming on PC for a long time, but the 3090 might just be my last GPU upgrade. I use PC for a lot of other stuff so I’ll always game on it, but the hardware requirements are getting crazy now.
this lazy devs manage to make it run on a console made by AMD
that has a hardware equivalent to an APU with 4700G & RTX 2080 SUPER, and it’s running just fine, but on PC god forbids it runs on an RTX 4090 a 3x Times faster GPU paired with a Ryzen 5900x a CPU that will obliterate any and every game released before this, a 12 cores BEAST that run circles around the both the xbox series x & PS5 APUs combined
Unreal Engine is a well customizable Engine, even the VRAM issue can be solved with streaming / VRS, this devs when it comes to PC they are lazy or rushed out at the finish line, since the PC port is pretty down their priority list
I just kept my gimped vram 3070, and I am waiting for next-gen, I may even go AMD and give away a few features for more vram if the 5070 is under 16gb.
I agree with all of your points, except the AMD CPUs “catching fire”. That is the misleading, shill of headline thats been making the rounds on the internet.
What actually happened was that some actual f*king r**ard decided to OC a 7950X3D on a really sh**ty mobo that didn’t have the VRMs for it, and clearly wasn’t designed for OCing. Probably some Reddit /r/gaming re**rd.
You need to calm down (or stop riding Lisa Su’s d*ck) and read Tom’s Hardware report. It can happen to any 7000 series processor, but the 3D cache in particular is more susceptible to voltage increase. AMD’s EXPO (memory overclocking) feature is the highest culprit since it allows motherboards to draw more juice for higher frequency and lower latency, and it’s an aggressive setting. When voltage is high, the sensors on the processor—which should prevent this overheating and CPU suicide from happening—fry first reporting the last temps they could and thus misleading the user into thinking everything is fine.
AMD already issued a BIOS fix that limits SoC voltage to 1.3V (EXPO for 6200 memory increased it to 1.35V by default). So it’s not some clueless user’s fault.
And of course AMD doesn’t cover the feature they marketed as ‘user-friendly’ under warranty.
people utilize the “bad pc optimisation” excuse, just because they can’t admit they have an old computer that can”t run next gen game…
Not really, games this year have had this issue of not being ported well to work separately on RAM and VRAM on PC. The consoles use unified memory and that needs to be adapted to PC properly. 18GB VRAM for 1440p literally means only 3090 and 4090 owners can play it, there’s no old computer excuse here. That said, the version reviewers played is apparently missing a few patches and is an early version, so perhaps things will improve. But best to be skeptical.
Lol, That’s not true
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d9a797957697ff6533c6a04ec10a86108e6d099f2bda72de02c3c31162b8c170.jpg
Nvidia’s boots quite clean today, innit?
Ouch , I guess amd should also joined the club that their 16gb is not enough either when it need 18gb, I guess nobody want to talked about why pirate versions don’t have vram issues, I guess denuvo should explain how their anti tampering works
Just the usual pc garbage. Shame…
2023 PC port in nutshell except capcom games
I think I found culprit of every bad pc port in 2023, It’s Direct X 12 fault
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because we did not had any problems on direct x 11 graphic api in old generation where the game runs well on every hardware ever since direct 12 api become main requirement , pc port has become worse on every new game pc port,
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It is not your hardware fault , It is software problem which is only fix by microsoft through windows update , but still Direct X 12 sucks , No mater how powerful or updated your hardware , Direct x 12 still make game run worse on your pc
Poor attempt at an original thought.
every direct 11 games have run great on my potato pc, but direct 12 games could not handle by high end PC.
Since 2011, devs have been nagging Microsoft for more control over the graphics API. Microsoft submitted and announced DirectX 12 in 2014 as exactly what they wanted and released it alongside Windows 10 in 2015. It supposedly solves driver overhead and single-threaded limitation by game engines, which bugged developers for years. However, as time went on, devs got comfy with DX11 and saw no reason to use DX12 (as the new consoles, PS4 and Xbox One, were relatively weak even at the time).
Because DirectX 12 is low level programming (low level means it’s closer to machine language—assembly and binary codes—than to human language), it’s completely different than any previous DirectX version, a lot harder to learn than DX11 (but still easier than Vulkan) and, unfortunately for us, gives the developers (who didn’t ask for it) more control over memory management and threads utilisation.
DX12 also limits the graphics drivers ‘optimisation’ (like generating shader variants or reducing redundant barriers). It also doesn’t automatically allow parallel CPU-GPU synchronised computation (if not specified by the developers, the CPU will spend more time processing data while GPU sits idle resulting in stalls aka stutters). Neither does it detect errors (called ‘hazards’) in the pipeline—all that has become devs’ responsibility now.
You can only imagine what coloured-hair snowflakes can do with that.
Those stup1d “devs” “force” themselves to use that cr@p because of garbage tracing, but also because the only thing they know about is the 40 “genders” of f@ g0try, they don’t optimize sh*t, and you can’t even brute force those POS anymore. LMAO at this “gen”
I’ll defend your comment. I’ve noticed games that have both DX11 and DX12 versions that the DX11 version runs better.
buckle up it’s going to be a bumpy ride
The solution is simple. Don’t buy poorly designed and optimized games.
Let the SJWs rot