AMD Radeon VII releases on February 7th and while the red team released a few gaming benchmarks, some new benchmarks were leaked online yesterday. These new benchmarks are from 3DMark and Final Fantasy XV and we can see, perhaps for the first time, how AMD’s upcoming GPU fares against NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX2080.
In 3DMark, the AMD Raden VII is faster than the GeForce RTX2080. On the Ultra preset, a customcustom factory-overclocked RTX 2080 scores around 6430 and the AMD Radeon VII offers 6700 points. However, 3DMark is not a “game” and this may not interest a number of gamers. Still, it should give you an idea of how this GPU will perform in some games.
On the other hand, the AMD Radeon VII is noticeably slower than the GeForce RTX2080 in Final Fantasy XV’s benchmark. Again though, this benchmark tool has some issues and does not represent the in-game performance. There is also a chance that it could be favouring NVIDIA’s GPUs.
So, right now we have the AMD Radeon VII beating the NVIDIA GeForce RTX2080 in 3DMark and the latter beating the former in Final Fantasy XV benchmark.
I’m pretty sure that more gaming benchmarks will appear online in the next day prior to Radeon VII’s launch, so stay tuned for more.
Kudos to our reader Metal Messiah for bringing this to our attention.
Thanks Videocardz
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metal messiah which card would you recommend in terms of bang for your buck?
A used 1080 ti for 300 bucks.
Actually, buying a used or second hand card actually comes with a RISK though, in my opinion. It will depend on a lot of factors, like the seller’s reputation, the warranty left, and the current working condition of the card.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t buy used/old cards, but it can come with a risk factor, unless we know the seller very well, and/or he lives near our area/location.
Nope, buying a used or second hand card actually comes with a RISK though, in my opinion.
It will depend on a lot of factors, like the seller’s reputation, the warranty left, and the current working condition of the card.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t buy used/old cards, but it can come with a risk factor, unless we know the seller very well, and/or he lives near our area/location.
Lmao there’s always a risk especially when getting latest gen cards. Looking at you, RTX.
What’s so funny ?I know, even if we buy a brand new high-end GPU, it can come as faulty/DOA, and it might require an RMA, but my point was that any used/second hand GPU is usually at a “greater” risk factor though, at least in my opinion.
Very few people are likely going to buy a card which has very little, or no warranty left at all.
I’m with you. Generally, if a card will fail it will fail sometime in the first year. Having that warranty in place provides great peace of mind and a nice security buffer. If you’re spending more than 100 bucks on a card, having a warranty is definitely worth it if it dies. Plus, you never know what conditions the card was used in (with a bad PSU, in a super hot case, mined with, etc).
+1. Couldn’t agree more.
‘ve never a gpu die on me so $300 for a used 1080ti is a great deal.
Mid-range: Nothing beats RX 570 4 GB.
Higher end: Vega 56 is better than both 1070 Ti or RTX 2060.
2nd hand market: 1080 Ti
yeah i saw it somewhere for a good price but nvidia steadily outperfoms the amd equivalent.
What current card of Nvidias outperforms the equivalent? The only place Nvidia currently beats AMD at any price point (frame/dollar) is the Vega 64. Everywhere else is AMDs game. Aside from the point that it doesn’t currently have a speed competitor to the 2080/2080ti.
gtx 1060 6gb. it will serve you well for the next 3 years still.
6 GB though…
It’s already starting to be maxed out in several games. Once the next gen consoles land I image it will be in trouble.
only if you play above 1080p. Most current games use up to 4-5gb on max settings in 4k. If you use max settings but stay at 1080p you will never, NEVER reach 6gb of vram.
But, then you’re playing at 1080p….
…and? What’s your point?
My be point is…ewwww.
The RX 580 with 8gb can push 1440p just fine. That extra 2 gb makes a big difference.
RX 580 can’t “push” 1440p with max settings in most AAA games and maintain a stable 60fps. Sorry, try again.
As someone who owns one and puts it to use often (although a Vega 56 powers my main rig), I wholy disagree. Now, many of the most recent titles you have to dial it back just a little, but honestly most “max” settings offer no real visual difference at a huge performance penalty.
Most games, however, (keep in my most games are older), run fine at max 1440p. It’s a very, very underrated card, especially if you get one with a decent cooler.
mid-range card = 1080p.
Prices can only go down and once that happens all of a sudden that 1060 isn’t going to be so future-proof after all. Current midrange cards only seem like they will last because prices have been frozen for so long that we just don’t expect real advances in GPUs anymore. New cards getting more expensive with each generation is not a stable condition for the market to be in. Either prices come way down soon or AMD will sweep up the entire casual gaming market with their APUs. nvidia will have to pull the chord at some point or their market share in dedicated GPUs will become meaningless as average gamers simpy stop buying dedicated GPUs.
Are you asking me to recommend you a GPU ? First of all, which video card are you currently using on your rig ?
Actually, it’s kind of hard to recommend any ‘bang for the buck’ GPU at this time of year, tbh. But are you interested in AMD or Nvidia (freesync, or G-Sync) ? What is your current setup ? Without knowing any details, I can’t comment.
Buying a Video card for one’s Gaming needs depends on a lot of factors though, like the gamer’s screen resolution setup, whether he/she is a hardcore/casual gamer, and also his current budget.
The more pixels we are pushing, the more performance we are going to need. We usually don’t need top-of-the-line card to game at 1080p. Also, the power supply unit/PSU has a deciding factor in terms of purchase, but depending on the GPU model, this can vary (some cards require either a 6 or 8-pin PCI-e connector, others require 2 8-pin, some may require only a single 6-pin connector).
We can’t overlook the VRAM requirements as well, if we plan to game on 1440p/4K res, sometimes even on 1080p.
Anyways, sorry for that long post, but I think the RX 580 would be a good choice for 1080p gaming/”mainstream” card (even the GTX 1060/6GB fits here). For sub-$200 gaming, some say the RX 570 is also a great choice, but all these prices are subject to change, and there seems to be a fluctuation in GPU prices lately.
But that’s mid-range/entry level. Never mind, I think the GTX 1080, or GTX 1080 Ti STILL offer a better price/performance ratio, provided you can grab one of these at some reasonable price. Go for these instead.
But like I said before, it all depends on your personal needs and budget. For some even the GTX 1070 Ti or the VEGA 56 might do the job easily. But no video card is future proof. The above AMD Radeon VII GPU is also expensive, so I can’t recommend it either, based on it’s unimpressive price/performance ratio and other factors.
If you are looking for non-Ray tracing cards though, then you can also wait for the GTX 1660 Ti GPU which is going to come out soon, but don’t expect similar performance as compared to other high-end cards. But still, for mainstream and budget gamers, this card is going to suit their needs.
But overall the RX 580 has still being the top pick among many reviewers. If you have the cash, then buy the GTX 1080 Ti instead before the stock gets depleted, because this card is going to be slightly more future proof, in my opinion.
I posted a lengthy reply, but for some unknown weird reason, it is waiting to be approved by DSOGaming….Should be live soon though. sigh
Eh, I hear ya on this. Some weird automated moderating going on here lately.
The other day I posted a reply, it was flagged for approval, then it disappeared, so I figured it was deleted. Post another reply, then my original popped up a couple hours later. lol Good for a laugh at least.
LOL. This is indeed getting funny day by day.
It was just pending until a moderator looked at it. It was removed from view here. It was also removed from view on your profile (after a short while) until approved. That’s why it popped back up later. It’s happened to me numerous times.
The bad one is when it gets marked as spam and then it never pops back up.
1060 or a 580
When is the NDA lifted for Radeon 7 reviews?
Most probably one day before it’s official release date, which is February 7th, we might get to see some “unboxing” reviews, apart from the actual gaming reviews which might come out the next day (hopefully).
By the way, some tech websites actually leak reviews much before the NDA lifts though. There have been few such cases in the past.
Just bought a new 650 watts psu for my pc as well. I hope it should be more than enough for gaming. I’m not a hardcore gamer though, but I’m still looking for an upgrade.
” Just bought a new 650 watts psu. I hope it should be more than enough for gaming “.
That depends on several factors. Which PSU brand/model is it actually ?
I hope it’s a decent one though, because a lot of peeps actually SKIMP on the PSU. And most importantly, many aren’t even fully aware that WATTAGE number alone means nothing when it comes to any power supply.
The main concern is the “quality” of the power, the quality of the components used/CAPS, as well as the total amperage/AMP drawn on the +12V RAIL (output), the efficiency under load, “ripple suppression”, among few other factors.
The total wattage number of any PSU is not always really the most important deciding factor. Primary concern is the ‘quality’ of power it produces, and the total capacity of the 12V source etc. Though how the rails are laid out does not affect that much, i.e. single/multiple +12V rail PSUs.
Multi-rail PSU can be mildly better, especially with high wattage unit, but it won’t have any impact on your performance, however, it can provide an extra layer of safety in case you get a short circuit. A multi-rail power supply has OCP on all +12V rails, ensuring that your PC components stay alive, if a problem like a short circuit occurs.
A cheap generic/standard low-end PSU is prone to failure soon, than the units made by reputed brands like SEASONIC, Corsair, BE QUIET, EVGA Supernova, PC Power & Cooling, ANTEC (except *earthwatts* series), XFX, Super Flower, OCZ, just to name a few.
The OEM also matters a lot, instead of the actual PSU brand. I’ve seen PSUs labelled as 1K watts, but in actual real world scenarios, they can hardly pull 400 Watts from the wall, even under full load.
Anyways, I’ve always given the topmost priority to PSU when building any RIG, and I mostly go for Tier 1 and/or Tier 2 units, because we know any TITANIUM/Platinum/Gold PSU is going to be much more efficient under 50% load, than a bronze/silver or a generic 80 plus certified PSU.
But the exact Wattage requirement still varies from system to system, and if we plan to overclock the GPU/CPU, then the PSU should have some headroom as well. Are you planning to upgrade to this upcoming Radeon 7 GPU from AMD ?
Agree, and well put. I have one from Evga supernova. It’s pretty solid. Bought it on a discount last year tho. *phew*
Excellent choice. I put a EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850 watt in my last build. It’s rated a 9.9 out of 10 over on jonnyguru. They have all of the expensive equipment to thoroughly test a PSU for ripple, voltage regulation ect.
Hello, thanks for your help and explanation. My model is the Corsair CS650M. Not the very best, but it’s an okay product.
Hello and thanks for your explanation and response. I appreciate it. I think mine is a model from Corsair, CS650M. Not the very best psu, as I just did some survey, but it seems like an okay product overall.
I have not yet decided on my gpu upgrade right now. I’m waiting for reviews for this card, and also nvidia’s new GTX 1660 ti card as well. Thanks for the heads-up again.
Nothing wrong with that PSU for currently hardware configurations. You should be fine with just about anything you upgrade to.
So pretty much we are seeing a older Arch on 7nm that is showing around 30% less performance then Nvidia’s best on it’s newest arch at 12nm. So now you gotta figure is 30% worth around 70% more in cost…
I mean sure for some people who want the “best” it is. While I am just thinking about the 5nm difference with arch vs arch. Really makes we wonder what AMD’s latest high end arch will have to offer at 7nm now vs turing at 7nm.
This is getting REALLY frustrating. “”Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by DSOGaming””.
Sometimes if I post a reply here on DSOG, even though it doesn’t contain any external link/url, and/or any censored words, it goes under approval.
What gives ? Sometimes even while doing some slight editing of the post, makes the post disappear from the comment section. I know you are have done this to reduce/control spam bots on your website, John, but sometimes legit users have to go through this whole process of waiting. Please disable this feature for good.
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By the way. we can’t fully trust this so-called ‘Final Fantasy 15’ benchmark tool. It’s kind of unreliable, so it’s hard to make any judgment solely based on this benchmark. Wait for proper 3’rd party gaming reviews instead.
But for Radeon 7 to beat the 2080 in the FF benchmark it’s kinda a big deal 😀
Yeah Man I have had this happen to me on Videocardz before I think a certain amounts of text or something triggers it.
Not sure what it is, but it is pretty stupid for legit/good users(on Videocardz I can’t write more than 5 words and it puts it on hold). On DSO I have not had this problem in a very long time.
Hope it gets fixed for you. Be cool if you could get a certified user check for X sites or something and then it wouldn’t happen but maybe then people would abuse that. Who knows?
Oh, but it never happened to me on VCZ. I face this problem only here on DSOG. Posting links/urls obviously need an approval, but in my case I didn’t provide any external link whatsoever.
Very strange/unpredictable Disqus behavior though. By the way, what do you mean by ‘certified user check’ ?
Huh weird so I am the opposite DSO is fine but VCZ is brutal so much so I gave up(it is like exactly what you described). Yeah I as well just wrote words on VCZ and it always went to on hold.
For sure, who knows what is up. I was just saying they should come up with a system that would make sure you don’t have your and my issue in X site and Disqus would flag you as a safe user for X site. They don’t have this as far as I know but it be really helpful. Sort of a rep system per site and they trust you/give you lee way unless you do something bad then it resets.
“Sort of a rep system per site and they trust you/give you lee way unless you do something bad then it resets”.
On a slightly related note, actually each user has a certain “Reputation” level here on DISQUS.
Every disqus member has a certain REP level (varying from low-high), based on his/her comment post history, but only the moderator and the site’s ADMIN can view the reputation status, in this case it is John.
wait wait this comment (By the way. we can’t fully trust this so-called ‘Final Fantasy 15’ benchmark tool…) needed to be approved by DSOgaming there is nothing wrong in it 0_o
Nope, that wasn’t the comment which needed an approval though. Check my reply to “durka durka” below.
But my comment didn’t contain any censored word, so I’m not sure which part of the text got filtered though, lol !!
thats because you quoting people while no quote function exists and of course system knows those words were already written. 😉
Nah, i was responding to you today and the same thing happend.
The only way that my reply disappears while in the middle of making it is if I hover my cursor over the avatar of the person that I am replying to and then it closes my reply box. When I hit reply again nothing happens.
If I back arrow out of the article and then click on the article and come back to reply to the person that I was replying to and hit reply then the box opens back up with the text there as it was before ready to finish editing.
Some Disqus software glitch I think. Is this what is happening to you guys?
shoudnt be the same for me then?
“What gives ? Sometimes even while doing some slight editing of the post, makes it disappear from the comment section.”
When that happens to me while editing it’s because during my reply I scroll back up to reread something in the person’s comment that I’m replying to. If my cursor is within that commenters text then my reply disappears. When I go back down and hit reply again, nothing happens. I have to back arrow out of the article. Come back. Hit reply again and my reply text comes back up where I left off so that I can edit it.
Pretty nice steaming turd apparently.
i will say this time and time again AMD will never beat Nvidia with 699$ because im sure Nvidia will make RTX 2080 699$ or even lower when Radeon VII hit the market
so idk why ppl are so excited for a product that we have 2 year ago (gtx 1080ti) hope some day amd will come with a good gpu that challenge nvidia
RTX 2080 is already 699.
799 for FE and some higher end models.
Then there is no reason to buy it in my opinion
I would argue not supporting the monopoly is incentive.
So you’re going to buy?
I’m quite happy with my Vega 56, but will likely buy a Navi card when they’re out.
Sounds great! Make it 250 bucks and I’ll buy one. What’s that? 700? Okay, I’ll just be waiting until you make me a real offer then.
@JOHN, have you seen this news ? Is a New Jade Empire Game on the Horizon? EA Files for New Trademark:
https://trademarks.justia.com/882/71/jade-88271662.html
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/ea-files-a-trademark-for-jade-empire-a-new-game-a-remaster-a-renewal-1000051372
https://www.techpowerup.com/252214/is-a-new-jade-empire-game-on-the-horizon-ea-files-for-new-trademark
@JOHN,
Just an update on this card. It seems very limited quantity of these cards are going to get released, and in the UK there would be “less than 100” Radeon VII GPUs distributed.
OCUK’s Gibbo Claims that the UK has been allocated “less than 100” Radeon VII GPUs
At this time it is unknown when the UK will get allotted more Radeon VII graphics cards to sell, though it looks like the UK’s current stocking of graphics cards will be quickly exhausted on launch day. AMD plans to sell their Radeon VII graphics card on their official website, though at this time it is unknown whether or not the company plans to sell Radeon VII graphics cards in the UK/Europe directly.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/radeon-vii.18842751/page-71#post-32485892
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/ocuk_s_gibbo_claims_that_the_uk_has_been_allocated_less_than_100_radeon_vii_gpus/1
John, some update….It seems this card will have very limited quantity available for sale in the Europe.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-vii-launch-allocation-100-units-for-uk-20-units-for-spain-and-france