While the embargo for the NVIDIA GeForce RTX2070 lifts tomorrow, HardOCP was able to get its hands on a third-party model and released the first gaming benchmarks for it. HardOCP has not signed up any NDA so it was able to publish its article before the NDA gets lifted, and according to the results the RTX2070 is about 15% faster than the GTX1080.
HardOCP has tested 8 games and these are: Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Far Cry 5, Wolfenstein 2, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Mass Effect Andromeda, Gears of War 4, Deus Ex Mankind Divided and Battlefield 1.
In Shadow of the Tomb Raider, the RTX2070 was 16% faster than the GTX1080, whereas in Kingdom Come Deliverance it was 13% faster. The RTX2070, however, performed terribly in Far Cry 5 as it was only 4% and 7% faster than the GTX1080 in 1440p and in 4K, respectively. Similarly, in the two Frostbite-powered games the performance boost was below 10%.
Still, and for the most part, the RTX2070 is around 15% faster than the GTX1080, and is unquestionably faster than AMD’s current high-end GPU, the Radeon RX Vega 64.
Below you can find some of the benchmarks, though we strongly suggest heading over at HardOCP and reading the entire article!
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Jesus JOHN, why are you so obsessed to post articles, which seem to be rushed out and biased ? Just to fill your daily quota ? 😀
Anyway, I will give this Video card a solid PASS as well. Even the GTX 2070 is way too much expensive than the previous gen cards.
Are you ready to pay $100 as a premium, just to get a similar performance envelope of the GTX 1080 ? A highly overclocked GTX 1080 is still going to be a much better bang for the buck purchase, IMHO.
+1.
Still IMO if you’re Gamer better choice is to pick:
Vega + FreeSync 1440p HDR Quality Monitor
and you still end up less than 1000€ for Great Gaming Experience.
If you have 4k € + to throw away? sure 2080Ti + Acer 4k 144Hz <- lol
VEGA FTW !
Which one, Vega 56 or 64 ?
If you get V64 for ~500€ (e.g Sapphire Nitro+) then sure Vega 64 is way better IMO.
I have Vega XTX (LC Limited edition) + FreeSync and im very happy with the combo.
I agree. It’s better to avoid paying for Gsync and RTX, features that are either free on other platforms or still don’t exist, respectively.
I saw a Linus video recently which showed a method of using Freesync with Nvidia cards. Think you have to have a second amd gpu though.
He’s reporting news, not his opinions and personal likes, you on the other hand are. Maybe it’s why you’re stuck posting a wall of text in the comment section instead of writing articles yourself.
“Jesus JOHN, why are you so obsessed to post articles, which seem to be rushed out and biased ?”
Then you say “VEGA FTW !”
Point proven, hypocrite.
Dude relax….That was sarcasm..
If you say so.
STFU….I’ve never seen MM post anything other than helpful stuff here on dsog. But you seem to sound like an nvidia fanboy..
Shut it troll.
$/Fps is garbage.
This card even lacks NVLINK support.
Ugh. Man.
I think you already bought the RTX 2080 Ti ?
No, not yet. I’m waiting fgor the FTW3 Hybrid from EVGA but the more and more i look at the price/performance i’m starting to talk myself oiut of it out of principle. 🙁
Well, you are already rocking a beast of a GPU on your RIG.
I presume it’s a TITAN, so if I were you, I would hug and keep this card with me for few more years, lol ? 😀 o_O
But I know you guys want to drive crazy/insane refresh rate Monitors, 144Hz, 4K HDR panels, so you still might need a little more GPU horsepower.
Yea i have a TitanXm but it doesn’t get 144fps in every game on 2k. Since i’m always looking for that butter smooth experience, 144hz/gsync is the target for me and a 2080ti would provide that. That being said, the 1080ti frw3 hybrid isn’t shabby at all and costs 1/2 the price for 25% less performance (not counting dlss).
I just don’t know what to do..
i was obsessed with getting at least 144fps back when i got my monitor which i specifically bought for csgo. i don’t see a point pushing for that in single player games, i don’t know about you but for me it was like an addiction, you’ll pour a lot of money in hardware that gets outdated fairly quick. maybe you live in a place where you can sell them quick and replace them but in my country there’s almost no used market (like nearly zero demand).
Well then you know the 144hz butter feeling. It is an addiction like you said. I play a lot of multiplayer games mainly R6/RL/CODBO4 and boy there’s a difference in gameplay when you get that consistent 144. It feels like it gives an edge over concurrent players that do not have that level of smoothness. Also, once it’s maxed at 144fps if your gpu is good enough it’s going to be less used. E.g my titanxm gives me 144fps@80% gpu usage in RL and it feels like it’s healthier for the card ? Not sure about that one lol
at first it’s hard to go back to a lower frequency but when you make it exclusive to specific games it gets easier to let go.
i mean i have a gtx 1080 and that’s enough since i’m not playing anything demanding but still the idea of going back is very tempting. if i had time or interest in single player games i’d probably spend more but it’s already enough for me. do you live alone? do you have full time job?
That’s what I do. I have 144hz monitor, but not all games get there. So, I’ll cap at 60, 90, 120, whatever I need to. I basically find the lowest framerate I’ll ever hit and cap it just below that. Keeps the GPU usage down, keeps it quiet, and makes it more consistent.
Side note, Guacamele crashes at 144hz for some reason. 120 it is.
for me when card is new i cap it at something like 40 or 45 or even 37, after a month or two i cap it at 60 then if it gets to two years i usually watercool it with an aio cpu cooler diy style. uncapped fps in multiplayer games though.
I have never done that with higher refresh rates, but I was obsessed with Maximum settings in games at 60fps, and it’s an endless quest.
No card will ever satisfy you and you will constantly be upgrading and spending endlessly in vain, as there’s always new games that release that are more demanding.
Better to use gsync and adjust few settings if required to hit good refresh rates and be happier actually playing the game.
Turn off frame rate counters and absorb yourself in the game instead.
I recently bought a PS4 to go alongside PC with 1080ti and I’m actually enjoying playing that more than my pc currently, as I can just forget about everything except just enjoying the game.
You need to find a balance, or trust me, later down line you referr blowing all that money needlessly.
Nobody sits there working out that except the tech geeks, it’s about what you think is best and how happy you are with your last product and it’s support. If you’re happy with a GTX 1070 then why wouldn’t you buy a 2070? Besides, you could get £250 for your old GTX 1070.
Please stop with your “common sense” which you have none….
Well thanks for your deep insight troll.
says the biggest TROLL himself. lol
Says the guy who makes activity private LOL
Yep. He essentially just claimed that objective facts don’t matter as much as feelings when buying a new graphics card… and then called you a troll for having questioned his bizarro logic. Then he doubled down on the butthurt by calling the next person to ridicule him a troll also. D’oh!
lay it off man, you always seem to spew out some nonsense here on DSOG !
How many troll accounts do you have?
I’m just gonna buy a 1080 ti. Fucc RTX
Buying these new RTX cards makes very little sense, in my honest opinion, unless someone is upgrading from a very OLD gen GPU model, e.g Fermi.
Once again, the main concern revolves around the PRICING of these new GPUs, which can be a detrimental factor, if seen from a purchasing decision point of view.
The Founders Edition RTX 2070 model seems to be roughly around 200 bucks more expensive than the GTX 1070, at the time of launch (if we compare these two cards).
It seems in some countries, except the US, these cards are way much overpriced as well, due to customs, local taxes, VAT etc. AIB custom Models aren’t going to sell cheaper though, as evident from the recent RTX 2080/2080Ti launch.
Some (if not all ) of the AIB cards are matching the Founders edition pricing as well, even worse in some cases, as reported by many. Also, there is a problem that NVIDIA has created, as they are now competing with their board partners.
IMO, apart from all the above factors, it seems we are basically paying an “early adopter” price for this new Turing tech/hardware, hence the premium.
I know Nvidia has totally changed the GPU arch as well, with the addition of new RT and Tensor Cores, and other design/pipeline improvements (memory/cache) etc.
But to take proper advantage of this hardware, very few games and software are currently out in the market. So basically the hardware won’t get fully utilized (if we think from this perspective). Also, how well some of the upcoming Games will actually perform on a TURING GPU, with Real time ray tracing and DLSS, still remains to be seen. I think it will take at least another 2 years for this whole RTX technology to become mainstream.
As of now, few PC titles are going to take full advantage of this new RTX feature, provided Game developers also adopt and implement ray tracing, and DLSS deep learning AA in games as well.
Still, it’s good to see new Tech being released. With time things might settle down a bit, and the performance gain might be there when DLSS and Ray Tracing features are enabled.
I’m wondering if the 2070 will even be capable of raytracing, at playable framerates. If not, the RTX features are literally just extra money for useless features.
DLSS I’m still not convinced is a solution that I would use either. Native>any type of upscaling.
I can’t really comment on the ray tracing performance of the RTX 2070, as of now, because even the 2080 Ti seems to struggle even on 1080p.
I think we need to wait for some gaming benchmarks though. I 100% agree with you on the DLSS part though.
I think “Shadow of The Tomb Raider” would be the first Game getting support for real-time ray tracing. This is assuming the DEVs implement RTX via a future patch, given MS has recently provided support for DXR via the latest October Windows 10 OS update.
But anyways, RTX is going to be demanding, and most of the gamers, if not all, won’t be able to reap out the full benefits of this feature.
15% hmmm what abot the price
Wow, that’s garbage. I paid $650 for an AIB 1080 over 2 years ago, which is probably what you should expect 2070’s to go for considering how the other Turing cards are currently priced. Considering new 1080’s can still be found around the low $400’s mark, is anyone going to pay 40-50% more for 15% gain?
The problem is Nivida will gimp performance of older cards going forward so eventhough its just 15% now, itll be more like 50% by the time next gen consoles come out 2 or so years from now.
There is no such a thing as gimping grow up! every gpu architecture has its limit, they (AMD or NVIDIA) can just improve performance depend on a gpu potential, Turing will be better in futue with mature drivers.
I agree on that though.
Man, my next upgrade would probably be an AMD GPU. FreeSync monitors are cheaper than Nvidia’s G-Sync monitors. I think I’ll just wait till Navi comes next year. The Vega cards are just too expensive.
Which GPU are you currently using ?
GTX970 OC. It’s still going strong after 4 years. I can easily get 60fps at 1080p, High settings. But i don’t think it will last much longer.
I managed a 56 for $370…but then they jumped 200 bucks again…
I waited forever for that upgrade :p But yeah, freesync monitors are great right now.
You can use Freesync on Nvidia apparently by using an AMD card as a secondary GPU.
“The RTX2070, however, performed terribly in Far Cry 5 as it was only 4% and 7% faster than the GTX1080 in 1440p and in 4K, respectively.”
Sensationalism, much.
And 50% more expensive,no thanks ngreedia
so gtx 1080 is $300?
I’ve seen them for 500, but maybe really used is 300?
Of course, we’ll have to wait to see what they 2070s actually sell for. My bet is they’ll be the hardest new cards to get from Nvidia, as the other cards are just prohibitively expensive for most.
yep, that’s what i think too.
I like what HardOCP wrote in their conclusions. RTX 2070 performance is not that bad and with DLSS and new shaders performance will soon skyrocket (veriable rate shading alone should improve fps by around 20%. 2070 will be probably too slow for RTX games (but I think it should run RTX games in locked 30fps, and it’s still playable result on gamepad, basically console like experience) but at least people will be able to test these amazing new features and I think moders will probably also implement RTX effects in some old games like half life 1,2, or quake, that should run in 60fps even on 2070.
The only issue I see is VRAM, because with only 8GB both 2070 and 2080 can run into vram problems in the near future, because some games use more than 8GB already, and when new consoles will launch (maybe even next year) games will use even more vram, so IMO it’s not good future proof investment.
Nvidia is about right on schedule for a stumble it seems. Every company that has a string of success, gets arrogant, and shoots them self in the foot at some point.
Sony with PS3 price. Microsoft with XOne draconian DRM. Etc. etc. Nvidia needs a slice of humble pie, and I genuinely hope the bulk of their customer base, gives them an extra large serving.
The pricing of RTX vs. its performance, is beyond stupid.
If someone care only about price/performance ratio, then the best card currently is 980ti. With OC it has results nearly like stock GTX 1080, while it costs just half as much (at least where I live).
RTX cards are much more expensive compared to previous pascal generation, but offer new (probably revolutionary) technology and unmatched performance even right now (25-70% performance difference compared to pascal depending on the game and settings used, minimal fps sometimes can be nearly doubled on 2080ti compared to 1080ti), and if new games will start using new shading methods, DLSS and RTX features, then performance differece compared to pascal will look drastically differenct.
980Ti barely matches a 1070
“Revolutionary” Lmao, From what i’ve seen as of now, it’s nothing more than a gimmick, in the future we’ll see…
RTX cards are a joke, RTX 2080 Ti is a bit faster than GTX 1080 Ti but way too expensive and more power hungry and this without ray tracing or DLSS if these two features enter in action its power conumption will grow up to 400 W then i let you guess the heat output
Well i wouldn’t say 20-30% is a “bit”.
The perfomance notion differs from person to another
What?
2080Ti is 20 to 30% faster than 1080Ti with the same settings.
Please read again : performance “NOTION”
you may upgrade because of the 20% – 30% that you consider a great performance increase, others will not upgrade till the new graphic card has at least 50% – 100% performance increase, that’s why i said the performance notion differs from one person to another.
Ok, but you can’t say 20-30% is a “bit” because that’s objectively not true, no matter how you put it.
It is always a bit perormance gain for me !!! to justify the price
For you it might be, but you talked like it was some absolute thing, which isn’t. If for you 20-30% isn’t enough, fine, but don’t go around talking like it’s not enough for anybody.
That’s why i said from the beginning, it differs from one person to another
Again, it doesn’t, 20-30% isn’t a “bit”, if it is for you it doesn’t matter, objectively it isn’t.
Again it is a bit and not worth the upgrade, for me and many others will tell you the same thing
No it’s not a bit, objectively, it’s a bit for you and some others, stop keeping this up, you’re just wrong.
And if it’s worth or not, that’s for you to decide, but the performance increase still isn’t a “bit”
I understand that you want to defend your purchase but read what other people say in this article and you will see who is wrong and who is not, “discussion closed”
Defend my purchase? I’m sitting with my 1060 for at least another year. Again as i said, 20-30% isn’t a bit, it’s a pretty reasonable amount, the fact it’s not enough for you, and some others, and it’s not worth the price, is another thing completely, and that’s subjective.
God what is it with people on this site lately…
WAHID’s comment was “a bit” more sensible than what the likes of KIM and Sp4ctr0 Spencer say but definitely not by as much as 20-30%!
Are you and your friend “a bit” gays.
Are you another retrded Eastern European? Not that all are, but lately i’ve been encountering quite many of them.
Please do enlighten us!
I’m upvoting your post for the first time, because finally you wrote the truth. 20-30% is not just a “bit”, especially in 4K, and especially when 20% is minimal performance gain, and in some games it can be even nearly 70%, and not to mention minimal fps difference (for example in Doom 2016 in 4K, 62fps min on 1080ti, and 113 fps on 2080ti according to tomshardware). And current games still dont use turing features, like for example new shading methods.
Hellblade 42 fps average on 1080ti, 69 fps on 2080ti (results from hardware cancucks benchmark), that’s very clear difference already.
I’ve always written the truth, you just need to check your truth.
Price drop or gtfo, while they’re execellent cards
their performance per dollar value (esp for the 2080)
is f**king terrible
aside from the 2080TI for the most extravagant of PCgamers
there is really no reason to buy out an RTX card if you own a GTX 1070 or above
Is there any reason for price drop?
Supply and demand
if the demand is low, they’ll have to reduce it
therefore i urge gamers not to be tempted into buying until Nvidia drops it to a more reasonable price
It will be endurance battle between gamer and GPU maker. See who will raise the white flag first. Now even AMD start doing some funny business by renaming their slower cards into faster one (see the reports at VCZ).
i believe Gamers will just forgo the entire RTX altogather
i saw Metro Exodus Ray-tracing differences and i came to a conclusion that RTX-off looks a lot more natural than with raytracing-on
while the 2080ti certainly proved itself to run KCD in 4K 60 FPS
i still can’t see how can one justify burning 1200$+taxes on a single F**king card
Agree. People are better of waiting for the next line of GPUs. People with GTX 980(Ti), 1070 or 1080 would just waste they cash on this minor and very expensive upgrade.
Well it is the world that both AMD and nvidia dreamt off haha.
But people are buying them as fast as TSMC can manufacture them. Nvidia isn’t going to lower the price when they don’t have to.
Probably best to wait for AMD next year with their 7nm gaming GPUs.
>buying AMD in hopes they perform better
on how many layers of DELUSIONAL are you right now?
Still beats AMD.
LMAO at this trash from $VIDIA. My R9 280X is not amazing but i can wait a litle longer for Navi. $VIDIA can go F@CK them self with those prices.
Sounds like I’m gonna skip a gen this time. My GTX1070 don’t seem to meet it’s end in my rig just yet.
Your 1070 is fine for now. There’s no reason to buy into the RTX tech at this point.
Yeah I have seen the benchmark reviews for the RTX cards. So little gain for such a high price.
The price policy is ridiculous. You’d have to pay extra $100 for a questionable feature that only select few games will have and, as it always is with new features, will take another generation or two of GPUs to run well and as much time for it to get featured in a reasonable amount of games.
Lmao. Harsh but true stuff. I guess.
greedvidia
And you’re using gpuuserbenchmark as a reference? Are you for real?
I have made 980ti and 1070 comparison once based on around 20 games, and conclusions were the same. But I have to say new games favors 1070 more and more frequenty (because of 8 GB vram, and much more optimized drivers).
It’s just faster most of the times,
I have just checked 980ti results in new games and what’s strange even 1060 is nearly as fast as 980ti, so it’s very clear to me nvidia dont optimize drivers for 980ti anymore because it wasnt possible even one year ago.
I’ve always known 980Ti was around 1070 in terms of performance, most of the times it was slightly slower, and sometimes it was on par or faster by a hair, i wouldn’t check userbenchmark if i were you.
Wait for Volta.
RTX ON = RTX 2070
RTX OFF = GTX 1080 OC