SEGA has released a new update for Sonic Mania that features a new version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech. However, it appears that SEGA did not test it properly as this rushed Denuvo implementation causes many issues to legitimate owners of Sonic Mania.
Voksi, best known for his Denuvo cracks, has detailed the major issues that currently affect Sonic Mania.
According to reports, the latest version of Sonic Mania runs slower than its previous version and as Voksi claimed, this is due to Denuvo. The slowdown, Voksi claimed, is caused by a trigger in the time attack menu when players scroll down till the last levels, which is not closed properly and causes Denuvo to continue writing in its section until the game is closed, which causes massive game slowdown.
Some users also claimed that they can’t get past the menu screen. Voksi stated that he encountered the same issue while trying to crack the game, so it appears that Denuvo is causing these loop issues too.
Legitimate owners of Sonic Mania have posted numerous issues on the Steam forums and Voksi claims that almost all of them are caused because SEGA rushed the new denuvo implementation and didn’t test it properly.
So yeah, this is one of those rare cases that Denuvo actually causes major issues to legitimate owners!
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Guess Sanic cannot go too fast
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Simple Solution – Dont buy games with Denuvo
I wish that was possible and we really had a chance to boycott all DENUVO titles, but sometimes we have no choice but to buy games which we think are indeed worthy of a purchase, despite the Denuvo DRM.
Or else, we need to wait till the game gets fully cracked, but this requires a lot of patience. Depends on how many “layers” of protection need to be bypassed.
But obviously this depends on one’s own personal choice. What I prefer playing, others might not consider that game worthy of a purchase, and vice versa (regardless of the Denuvo protection).
Btw, I’m not advocating Piracy by any means. We have the option to either BUY the game, pirate it, or just ignore any said game title altogether.
I think unless DEVs and publishers realize that this Virtual protection of Denuvo does more harm than good, then things are not going to change anytime soon.
Some Denuvo games don’t have any serious issues, but this protection is still very intrusive to the PC Hardware.
I can understand the DEVs want to protect their IP and game’s sales, but implementing any sort of intrusive DRM like Denuvo still isn’t a very good idea, IMO.
I’m pretty sure SEGA is going to look into this issue.
The funny story about all of this is what we won’t win via boycotting, that has hardly worked well before, and for those cases where it did, they are of a few and not many. At the same time the companies don’t win because people crack their DRM, thus putting an end to their “we’ll win once and for all” strategy that devs have been pipe dreaming for decades.
Really no one wins, well except maybe the crackers that remove the DRM.
The DRM salesman win as well.
Not really, considering their DRM gets cracked faster each time. They’d make more money if it lasted years and years, not a year, to months and then to mere weeks. They also waste far too much into R&D to even put a temporary stop to said “piracy”, which they will never defeat and never make billions from either.
All it’s doing is throwing money into a bottomless pit. There are vastly superior and better ways to spend a companies money on, rather than thinking a mere piece of DRM software will cripple an entity that hasn’t been stopped for decades, and the general notion of piracy that has spanned centuries.
Yet tons of games are using it. Some publishers using it on every release. I’m sure they’re making good money off it.
tons?, a list for sure, but not a lot, as in not 60-90%, more like 30-40, quite possibly less that use the DRM.
When it gets cracked, that’s when the money flow stops, because it has been broken and thus does not work, hence why we see constant levels of refinement being made to the DRM, to which said refinements are then broken.
I’m sorry but they can be the smarted lads in the world, but if someone keeps tearing it down all the time, you are inf act being a dolt and throwing money into a pit of fire. We’ve seen this in other industries for years, decades and even centuries, going by bad ventures and fundraisers.
Boycotting doesn’t work because people call for boycotting but don’t follow through with it. Most seem to want everyone else to boycott but also want to play the game anyway. It’s like when Steam came out. So many people on the forums saying they will never get a sh*tty DRM Steam account and trying to convince everyone else to boycott them as well. Some even called Steam a virus. Look how that turned out.
Then when EA started Origin the same thing. Boycott EA and Origin because EA is putting some games on Origin that they won’t put on Steam. Two years later EA said that Origin had around 40 million accounts.
The bottom line is that most gamers just don’t stick together and stand united against bullsh*t. We can blame a good bit of the state of gaming on Developers/Publishers but imo a lot of the blame also goes on gamers. Pre-ordering, buying on release at full price when some games are riddled with bugs, buying huge amounts of DLC garbage etc. Is it any wonder that most Publishers/Developers have so little respect for us?
Boycotting in the gaming world has never really existed in my experience. So many times over the years gamers have gotten angry over issues with Publishers/Developers, Steam, Origin, Uplay, Microsoft, Intel, Nvidia, AMD etc and called for boycotts and claimed that they would never buy a product from those companies ever again.
In my experience the majority still do though. They want everyone else to boycott those companies but at the same time don’t want to make the actual sacrifice of giving up those products to drive the point home to those companies. Most of us just don’t stick together as a united front against the never ending flood of bullsh*t that comes our way.
You don’t have to look much further that the number of people who pre-order from certain Publishers over and over again and keep getting burned, buy games on release even if they are riddled with bugs and sometimes completely broken, buy huge amounts of DLC garbage etc. for an answer as to why a lot of Publishers don’t think most gamers are very smart anyway so I don’t think the current state of gaming will improve much if at all in the near future.
Crackers win.
When Your young inexperienced cracker You do learn cracking games.
When children start pooping out of You bellowed then You do switch sides and work as security consultant / coder.
Endless cycle of life 🙂
Well, i have so many older games that i would like to play, i bet i can stay 2 or 3 years whitout ANY new games. And actually there’s been years that i dont buy games at launch date, especially because im my country is costs about 20% of a minimum wage.
EA lost a lot of money on that Lootbox thing on Star Wars BF2, imagine what a massive boycott on Games with Denuvo would do.
At least is what i think, for example when EA launchs a new Farcry Game they expect to sell, i dont know, 10M copies.
Imagine if they sold only 2M. They would lose money not only by the defict of the production cost but in their shares value. And when they realize it was because Denuvo, i bet they would never do it again, like occurred on the Star Wars BF2
People here in Brazil always complain about the prices on Games, Cars and Cellphones. And they’re right, its extremelly overpriced here.
But… i know a lot of people that arent rich but still buys a new cellphone every year and, of course, get a lot of debts too.
If people only knew the power of boycott…
Specially when isnt a basic service like power, water, food…
But again, im not an expert on economy or anything, is just what i think.
” @EDIT – Far Cry is a Ubisoft Game, my bad hehe “…
Just imagine EA making the next Far Cry title. Lol !.
“Well, i have so many older games that i would like to play, i bet i can stay 2 or 3 years whitout ANY new games”
I’ve always known that my backlog of games is ridiculous but you made me curious what I actually have. As of now on Steam and GOG I own 57 games on backlog waiting for time to play them. Another 24 games through today that I will definitely buy but they are waiting on a really good sale. So that’s almost 2 years of games right there.
In addition I have around 50 games that I like to replay every 3 or 4 years and although most games don’t make that list the number just continues to grow the more games that I play.
Also I keep a list of games that I would like to buy and play one day if time permits (maybe after I retire in about 5 years) that goes back all the way from now to the mid 90s. They are all good games but they just never made it to my “must play now” list. As of right now there are 213 games on that list.
If every AAA, AA and Indie Developer from this day forward made nothing but trash games that weren’t worth playing it would have almost no effect on me whatsoever for probably 10 years while I played through all of those games and that’s not even counting all the old console game hits that are being emulated now and in the future.
But I want to support some of the Game developers for giving us good AAA/AA and other indie titles (for their hard work, talent and dedication).
But if the publisher decides to implement DENUVO, then what choice do we actually have, apart from boycotting (just ’cause of DRM) ?
Btw, I’m not sure who makes the decision to implement Denuvo, the Developer, publisher, or both of them ?
Indeed, bought around 350 games, and accidentally only one with denuvo — Lords Of The Fallen (back then didn’t know it has this shit-system). Also, I may misunderstand something, but why implement new version of denuvo, when the game is already cracked?
i dont buy this “not implemented properly” denuvo is becoming more complex to make it harder to crack, ends up being bloatware.
This about nails it on the head. This thing will be an unrecognizable, and probably worse yet, uncontrollable hydra within a few years.
I wish these made court cases, but so far the gaming industry has proven that said court cases are easily either dragged out or tossed out in favor of the company and not the consumer. This kind of shoddy practice actually harms the consumer, both money and hardware wise.
We’ve seen cases of poor implementation hurting performance far more than it should (correct implementation has shown to only have minimal impact). But that doesn’t change the fact that you can’t have incorrect implementation issues with Denuvo if you don’t implement it in the first place…
So switch version it is i guess.
Denuvo is destroying pc gaming with that crap
“So yeah, this is one of those rare cases that Denuvo actually causes major issues to legitimate owners!”
Denuvo itself is a major issues. Wait for a few years when this garbage tries to phone home, and the address has changed, or the home has been closed. There’s already enough games rendered unplayable from trash DRM, and here were being force fed more, because **** people who legit buy their games it seems.
When someone doesn’t like intrusive drm but people call him pirates because they think only pirates that hate denuvo….smh
There are plenty of people around that make the claim that Denuvo has no effect on performance but here’s a game where it does. Most likely Sega will fix the issue eventually and this account will go down in history as another example of how Denuvo has no effect on games by those same people.
The thing is that for Denuvo to affect performance, as is the case here, then it must be running while the game is being played so it must be using CPU cycles, RAM and probably accessing the drive as well. All of these things can have an effect on performance for people running old or entry level hardware.
Denuvo are the same guys who made SecuROM even, they rebranded themselves and started calling their DRM “anti-tamper” to avoid the stigma of being called DRM, which is especially funny, since DRM was already a PR term for imposed restrictions on the use of software. Goes to show that no matter how many wordplays you try to pull, if you keep being sh*t you will eventually taint every word you use.
“Denuvo are the same guys who made SecuROM”
Thanks for the info, but I already knew that, its their ties with Sony that likely made companies invest and them contact publishers to use their anti consumer product.
Mine has been flawless.
Go on. Tell me more about your point of view.
Im waiting.