Beyond3D’s member ‘dbz‘ has shared an interesting graph, showing the percentage of purchased NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards over the past few years. As dbz wrote, this graph was made from aggregated quarterly reports, mainly from Mercury Research with fillers from JPR where Mercury’s figures were unavailable.
“Most should be verifiable via a quick search. Some of the older figures were collected via Business Week and the WSJ (amongst other publications) for 1995-2003 – most of which I’ve truncated from this graph since most of the graphics vendors from those years are now defunct/no longer making discrete graphics boards.”
This is a really interesting graph and shows NVIDIA’s dominance.
It will be interesting to see whether AMD will be able to recover with its new GPU that will be hopefully announced in the next coming months. Early reports claim that AMD’s R9 390X will be a really powerful card.
One thing is certain: an NVIDIA monopoly won’t benefit PC gamers. So here is hoping that AMD comes back with a punch.
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The last AMD card I had was a 5850, which was great as they were first to use DX 11 before Nvidia, which made my Bad Company 2 look amazing. Now I use Nvidia, mainly because I use G Sync, and 3D Vision and their low power consumption. As soon as the 980ti comes out, my 970 is up for sale. Both companies make great cards though, it’ll be interesting to see AMD’s offering in the next month, with their new stacked HBM memory.
AMD has had 3D vision for ages
while it is still in its infancy AMD freesync is now a thing
and as for power consumption i would have to be using my 7970 for another 4-5 years before the 680 would work out cheaper
AMD never support 3D like NVIDIA. You had to use third party drivers which in most time didn’t work as well as NVIDIA’s solution. You really can’t compare NVIDIA and AMD in 3D. AMD did nothing for it. NVIDIA is preparing special profiles for almost each game and care about it. They don’t leave it on somebody else. And it makes big difference.
We will see how it comes with freesync in the future. If AMD will do nothing and let others take care about it, it will be equal to 3D. Do you know that if you want to do something the best, you should do it yourselves.
i bought my amd card because of 3d support ???
nvidia is a closed 3d standard. as usual amd solution is the open one.
that all the tvs use.
which isn’t as good as Nvidia’s 3d.
Once you go Nvidia 3D, you do not go back to AMD.
“i bought my amd card because of 3d support”
No. But if you really want 3D, you bought NVIDIA. As I wrote, AMD has no solution. There are only 3rd party drivers (without AMD support as I know) which is far from around 600 games supported 3D Vision. NVIDIA did a good work which can be used even now when VR is back. NVIDIA is making a support for VR headsets when you will play games in big screen with 3D. Yes you will have alternatives. Again 3rd party drivers, but with NVIDIA you will have this in one pack and support directly from manufacturer and for more games.
I always used AMD cards and I am not planning to change this.
And where is the famous 7970 and BitCoin Maining here? AMD has sold so many 7970 we can’t even imagine 😉
Almost every gamer sold his 6xx GPU to buy HD79xx -> and that’s the fact !
I dont belive in such a news.. sry not true
stay in denial amdfag your company is abandoning you slowly
driver support is terrible and you get updates once in 3 months that fix absolutely nothing
AMD is done
Strangly enough I have never encountered any of these so called driver problems from ether vendor , my 8800gts was good value as was my hd 6870. My xfired 7950s never had a problem even after mining. My r9 290 is destroying every game i have @1440p enjoy doing the bidding of two billion dollar companies. AMD is doing fine from where I sit, as is nvidia
Me too 😉 That’s why we are Plaing Games not Hating 😀
BTW i have one day nV and now R280X
And here are my GTA5 with RadeonPRO+ SweetFX 😉
What I think is mine R280X doin’ GOOD, With AMD CHS Shadows
Powered by PhenomII x6 1100BE (3.86GHz) on Sabertooth 990FX 1.2
-> greets to non-Haters
That looks good but what’s up with the resolution? 1,792px × 1,344px is weird
yep -> cuz i don’t belive in LCD lol
I have CRT Sony 23″ 2048:1536 85Hz MAX
And Heavy games I have on little higher than FHD 1792:1344 85Hz on Ultra/V.High + SMAA in SweetFX 😉 and GPU have 58deg cels. only !
When i have R390X HBM WC then i will have Full 2k with all MAXED OUT ! in GTA5 2k have <75FPS average so i play in this instead, i dont want lower details than ULTRA 😀
Huh, weird! You know that LCD’s have come a long way in the past 10 years, right? 🙂
yep, my Bratan’ but i will wait for 4k/5k OLED’s then i will change My CGI CRT -> It is Ok to me 😀
Full HD is 1920×1080 , 1792×1344 is not higher than Full HD
It is, count the pixels.
1920*1080 = 2’073’600 pixels
1792*1344 = 2’408’448 pixels.
Full HD is in the pixel count.
Every game is Playable with more than 55-85 Fps/Average
here some screens with RadeonPRO+ SweetFX
Crysis3 + FC4 more on my BLOG 😉
Go Team Green! 🙂
What a horrible thing to say
Guess there are some people who simply can’t get sarcasm.
Man this is all a game people. Amd will not go down because U.S government will step in. There can not be a monopoly.Some of u guys don’t understand that AMD has made advancement in technology before nvidia and intel. Reading chart and graphs that websites post can be misleading. Buy whatever makes u happy.
I love Team Green but I am waiting others, like Team Red returning and a new team called Team (insert colour).
ill insert pink
Blue is more logical. (thanks to RGB)
AMD is even worse than i thought.
Nvidia for life !
Steam Hardware Survey March 2015 – no more graphs needed.
no point cuz 87% users on STEAM has Disabled H/W Scaning ! (including me 😉
So the so called Surveys are cheap as Hell 😀
That’s a performance graph you just posted, not a graph of percentage of users.
And anyway, even if hardware scanning is turned off for most users, the averages should be an accurate slice of the market. The actual numbers will be different, but we’re still talking about hundreds of thousands of samples.
Maby ! I don’t like vendor Wars 😉
And i think DSoG is for gamers -> we have to stick with that subject.
“no point cuz 87% “”
From where do you have this number? Even If it’s true it changes nothing. 23% is good sample for statistics. For example in Slovakia where can vote around 2.5 million people (my guess, in reality it is higher), all statistics are made for around 1050 respondents with nice results comparing with real elections . You can count for yourself what percent is 1050 according to 2,5 milions (which is 100% base).
Wow, I didn’t expect Intel to have nearly an equal number of cards as AMD. AMD’s been making graphics cards a long time (Radeon) – Intel has only been making integrated graphics for a short while.
It looks like the real battle is between Intel and AMD.
The graph plays pretty much to my expectations.
The X800 series over 10 years ago was AMD’s golden era? Pretty much how I had it in my mind too. Afterwards especially after the Nvidia 8800 series AMD have been a little closer, a little further away, but never landing any serious blows.
i love my GTX 680 and my next card it will be Nvidia too!
Maybe a GTX 970 now or i will wait more for a GTX 980Ti i want something very expensive but with ton of life span like it was with my GTX 680 🙂
Green Team FTW!
GTA V+ Sweet FX FTW!
hey i heard like paying $1K for your 1050
amd dying is bad for everyone as that gives nvidia the monopoly on the market meaning they can charge whatever they like
Yeah my EVGA GTX 680 cards are still running great.
lol my evga gtx 660 sc is still running great just has problems with arma 3 but i dont play those games anyway
I’m running an AMD R9 270X right now but I’m probably going to change to the green team with my next upgrade. I must say though, AMD’s been fine and people greatly exaggerate the “driver issues” with regards to the GPUs.
One company is getting a monopoly position on the market and most customers are cheering! Question is: how much more stupid our society can get than that?
when nvidia has monopoly expect to pay $800 for a 780…lol when you got
monopoly you can charge what you want.
“when you got monopoly you can charge what you want”
You have higher prices but you can’t charge what you want. You still want to have customers who buy your products.
you can make lower cost products to sell those customers.
With competition my burger hut might sell combos for $5 and value menu stuff for $1.
Without competition I might be able to charge $10 for the combo and $2 for the value menu.. or just cut the quality/size of my value menu item and sell it for $1 still (if people can only afford $1).
right up untill the next titan costs 10 grand and the GTX 1080 is 6 grand and new games mysteriously do not work on older cards
They don’t have make them not working, they just can make sure that only the newest architecture will run them fast enough. At the end this is exactly why they brought their GameWorks program, to make sure only they can control performance results across the whole market, since noone but nvidia has access to source.
Also dGPU is pretty obsolete matter of statistic anyway (>80% of PC uses some form of APUs/SoCs) , as all new consoles (with low level API and only 100W they do just fine!) do not use dGPU at all and most of even gaming PCs will be using APU/SoC in nearest future. The main reason why PC actually have to use dedicated GPUs just clearly shows how badly this platform really is. Again AMD was the only company that successfully tried to change it with MANTLE.
On new 14/16nm they start to make SoCs not only for HSA professional usage but also for high performance gaming, because they will be able included zen core CPUs+post GCN GPU+ HBM into one silicon.
But hopefully this news get some positive reaction from community, that will realize that any monopolistic position never get anything good for end customers, at the end of the day we can always hope.
” At the end this is exactly why they brought their GameWorks program, to
make sure only they can control performance results across the whole
market, since noone but nvidia has access to source.”
This is probably the stupidest conspiracy theory i heard about.
You think they created gameworks and won’t leverage it?
.. it’s probably not even close to the stupidest conspiracy I have ever heard about… haven’t you ever heard of the hollow moon base?
Titan X costing $1300-$2000 – I think the intelligent consumer will go for AMD’s R9 390x which if the rumoured specs are true, it trumps Titan X in most things with the only downfall still being the wattage demand of AMD cards. But AMD’s card will be around $700-$800, Much, much cheaper than Nvidias’ top card.
Considering how small a market share that class of card takes up, I doubt that is where the biggest issue arises. Why anyone in their right mind would purchase a GTX 960 on the otherhand… To me that is the headscratcher(and also the bigger revenue earner) – dam shame.
Agreeable.
I love how wrong you were.
Far as I can see, I was infact correct with my assumptions.
Instead though, it was not R9 390x that was the ‘Better than’ but Fury X, I thought their flagship w/ 4GB HBM was going to be 390x and never heard of the Fury X until the AMD conference revealed the Nano, Quantum and Fury X as well as the other Fury X ‘2’ or whatever in Autumn this year with dual GPU’s or 8GB HBM.
So, where am I wrong exactly minus the 390x/FuryX?
True, but some people will cheer this news simply because they’re fans of the brand, and brand loyalty isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
People have been brought up to be loyal for centuries without any realized rational consequences behind. Its more emotional than rational matter and todays marketing is based upon that fact. That coming from a wrong presumption that changes are made big players. Like religion make people believe in anything without any rational background and same methods work probably even better today as not many really ask any questions.
I dont think we would need new cards that much (on 28nm), as maxwells did not bring much of performance increase (you really don’t have much of the reason to change your kepler/GCN for maxwell in terms of performance/price).
They increased efficiency and they manage to sell this parameter incredibly well.
BTW im not sure what restrictions you are talking about as DP is compatible with all previous digital connections! There are no restriction that would AMD add to this. Yes,they using DP mostly as it’s most advanced connection for up to 6 simultaneous displays, but you can use basically any digital connection you want via adapter.
amen to that – i’ve got an EVGA GTX 690 because it’s the fastest single PCIe setup i could afford($250), Gigabyte R9 290x oc ($279) because I wanted to play with ocing + watercooling, and newly purchased XFX R9 280 black edition($159) because the wife needed a gpu to accelerate photo editing.
Forget brand loyalty! This situation wouldn’t exist if people did their research instead of falling victim to marketing malpractice.
690 is not a single gpu
agreed. loyalty to a company that wants to make money off of you usually is a one way street…
I’ll start my own GPU company! with blackjack an…and hookers!
in fact forget the GPU company!
Maybe a “Team Blue” rising?
I’ll start my own hooker company!
Currently they have been making the superior products but that honor swings back and forth between the companies. What nvidia honestly can’t say is that they provide better performance per dollar.
They dont.
They have better performance/TDP efficiency. AMDs has better API support (resource binding tiers are fully supported from GCN 1.0 same as compute ques which is last iteration are still more advanced than on maxwell).
AMD has also better performance/size , transistor count/size and performance/price efficiency.
Nvidia on the hand is better tessellation which they overuse however in many of their effects for only reason to make sure AMD will perform worse, problem is they still heavily affect performance of their own cards without any visual quality improvement. And since they do this for years, there is no point to think they wont do the same to their own customers.
So overall those companies are superior in different tasks and they both have a very opposite approach towards the platform, standards and their customers.
“AMD has also better performance/size , transistor count/size and performance/price efficiency.”
And that’s why 256bit and smaller Maxwell beats 384bit bigger Radeons. 🙂 BTW what does it mean “performance/price efficiency”? Do you really think that AMD sells cheaper their GPUs because they manufactured them cheaper? Look at market share and you will see why is AMD forced to sell their GPUs in prices where are they now. They would like to have prices in level where is their competition now. If AMD has market share like NVIDIA, prices would be opposite.
“AMDs has better API support”
That’s true. But in reality where they use it? Is there any game which benefits features like resource binding tiers and where you can say wow I want to buy Radeon GPU because of that?
Well we both know, that for you there is no problem with the market share. Your problem is that AMD isn’t in NVIDIA position. After all hate you produced against NVIDIA last year, it’s clear that if AMD would have major market share, you would write something else (surely not something about stupidity).
How stupid you ask? I’ll show you an idiot to go with every GTX 960 receipt.
I’d be all about abolishing patents, but it’s not architecture or a superior product swaying people’s votes – it’s marketing lies and predatory business practices by Nvidia(check out the lack of recent lack of optimizations for kepler cards) http://www.overclock.net/t/1529108/are-nvidia-neglecting-kepler-optimization-since-maxwell-release
people are dangerously selfish and short-sighted.
can this report be really trusted?if it can,then i hope AMD does something because monopoly is not beneficial to customers.
Bought my 280X for pocket change and its so fast for the price. Even the 960 was more expensive. AMD deserve better.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1529108/are-nvidia-neglecting-kepler-optimization-since-maxwell-release
You are getting a lot better driver support too, you’re right – AMD does deserve better at this point(even if 280/280x don’t get freesync, lol)
The last AMD/ATI card I bought for myself was a Radeon 9600. I decided to try Nvidia after that card because of the driver issues and the crap ATI software. I have nothing against AMD cards now, they have come a long way since then and I have been quite impressed with some builds that I have done for people in the past.
well good thing amd has ps4 and xbox one on lock down right
problem is they might not actually be getting much money in that deal
true but they dont post numbers for consoles sales at all so no one knows.and with dx12 comming out it will put amd cards inline with nvidia imo.
“with dx12 comming out it will put amd cards inline with nvidia imo.”
Why do you think this?
google what dx12 will do for amd and you will read all about it and just not gpu’s.amd cpu’s will get much better as well
Why do you think it will not have the same benefit for NVIDIA GPUs? BTW DX12 is mainly implemented for better multicore CPU usage.
as i said google and read it..DX12 is mainly implemented for better multicore CPU usage your words.amd is the king of multi core cpu with 6-8 cores right now interls 6 core is expensive as hell and so is the 8 core. amd cpu will get a big boost because of the api. as i said google it
Hate to rain on your parade but Nvidia does very well with DX12.
In fact here is a link to Anand tech that shows the 980 walking all over the 290x in DX12.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/3
gcn arctiecture is optimized for mantle. directx 12 is similar to mantle.
DX12 and Mantle have not the same code. Mantle was optimized specially for AMD GPUs, DX12 can’t be write this way. MS is cooperating it’s development with other manufacturers too. It will not be optimized only for one of them.
Meanwhile Nvidia are making mobile GPU’s which are faster than consoles.
amd has ps4/xbox one on lock down.guaranteed money for the 10 year life cycle of the consoles.with over 30million ps4.xbox one sold with in just 2 years i think they are doing ok with many more years to go.
AMD’s management is Tragic Bronson.
Someone is using Hack-a-Shaq on AMD.
Well AMD does release cards for a very good performance to price ratio but unfortunately Nvidia has most developers in their pockets with gameworks so AMD cards suffer, all the while AMDs pocketed devs games still run well on Nvidia. So seeing this is not really surprising as choosing Nvidia means gamers get to play everything at good performance while AMD means you got bear a lower fps or simply not play.
aaah aaaah oh my god f#*ck me f*uck me oh oh my god f.uck f#*ck my p#s*sy aah aaah.
I’ve had nothing but Nvidia cards but this is terrible news. I don’t want Nvidia monopolizing the industry. I hope AMD puts out a card that I really want so I can buy it and support them. I’m building a new rig this holiday season and it looks like I’m going with Nvidia again, but I hope AMD makes an announcement about cards I can buy instead of going with Team Green again.
I’m going to add this as I’m sure many people do not know or those that do, do not remember the details. If you have a spare 10-15 minutes, reading this will maybe help some of you understand why AMD has not does as well as historically perceived. I’ll admit before today I did not know 90% of what this explains.
http://are.berkeley.edu/~sberto/AMDIntel.pdf
It seems I know more then you about this theme. 🙂 I’m asking again, why DX12 would be an advantage for AMD GPUs? When it’s focuse on CPU layer, which would have the same benefit for both GPU manufacturers. You said:
“with dx12 comming out it will put amd cards inline with nvidia imo”
So you were writing about GPUs. Not CPUs. And then you turn it on CPUs….
the api is why as i have said in numerous posts to you GOOGLE IT. im not replying to you again about this. use some common sense.
You don’t know nothing my friend. Common sense have no value if you don’t have even basic knowledge about this theme. Google can give you much information but it doesn’t mean you really understand them. NVIDIA and AMD are cooperating with Microsoft on DX12 development. This is not one side oriented Mantle.
well since you wont google it ill show you
http://n4g.com/news/1669429/early-directx-12-tests-note-a-400-increase-on-amd-gpus-150-on-nvidia-cards
an article 400% increase for amd and 150 % ncrease for nvidia.
http://www.eteknix.com/dx12-can-handle-600k-draw-calls-increasing-amd-gpu-performance-600/
this one says 600% increase to amd gpu
what ever the actual numbers are amd is getting a HUGE increase in gpu performance over nvidia with dx12 and most gamers that have an intel QUAD CORE wont receive a boost because dx12 will help multi core cpus, but those who have amd;s 6-8 core cpu WILL receive a big boost and will close the game between intel.
And according to this test is everything contrariwise:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/3
All these results are weird. Just wait for final drivers and first games which use DX12 after that. If you think that AMD will have 600% increase of performance and NVIDIA only 150%, you are naive.
I would like to know why are you so sure that the future will be like you think. BTW QUAD cores are multicore CPUs too. For now it seems, that AMDs 8 cores CPUS will be closer to Intels 4 cores with HT. Great. 🙂
PS: Draw Calls are not FPS. Look also to
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9112/exploring-dx12-3dmark-api-overhead-feature-test/3
Results are far from boom articles you posted. We should be realistic. There will be no 400% or 600% higher overall performance for non of NVIDIA or AMD.
did u even look at the tests that you posted…lmao? dx 11 was red dax 12 was black and mantle was blue on the chart.the r9 290x went dx 11 8.3fps,with dx 12 it was 42.9 so from 8.3 fps with dx 11 to 42.9 fps with dx12 thats not a HUGE increase???did you look at the chart and understand it?…lmao and did you understand the other chart as well before dx 11 and after dx12 on the cpus? instead of trying to prove me wrong i think you need to to RELOOK over those 2 articles you posted because they show i was right..lol you must have not understood them.
You were comparing NV and AMD GPUs in your comments before and now you are comparing DX11 vs DX12? Look at GTX980 and HD 290X in DX12.
GTX980 – 66.8 FPS
HD 290X – 42.9 FPS
And now compare it with draw calls from your articles. According to them, AMD should have significant better results. You should read more precisely. All at all whole scene in Star Swarm is synthetic.I would wait on official release of DX12 and first official drivers which support it from both AMD and NVIDIA. Then we will see.
And now look at results in DX11:
GTX980 – 26.7 FPS
HD 290X – 8.3 FPS
So it’s obvious why in relative way (in %) is AMD improvement bigger according to NVIDIAs. Because AMD has significantly smaller base. Do you understand that?
all those articles say only one thing amd is getting a big increase in both gpu and cpu to bring them on par maybe better then intel. and nvidia when dx12 releases we will have our answers, and i can tell you amd will see bigger sales once those bench marks come out when its released amd cheaper and just as good as intel.intel overpriced.intel will have to do something like lower prices and so will nvidi.why pay $100 more for a %10 increase with intel and nvidia. do you under stand that?
I’m not talking about AMD and Intel. I’m talking about AMD and NVIDIA. What you forgot is that these % statistics have no the same base. So 10% increase for NVIDIA can be more then 40% increase for AMD in absolute numbers. Look at this:
HD290X – 8.3 FPS in DX11 and 42.9 FPS in DX12 – increase 416.87%
GTX980 – 26.7 FPS in DX11 and 66.8 FPS in DX12 – increase 150.19%
Do you see that? HD290X has more then twice relative increase, but in absolute numbers GTX980 have more then 20 FPS according to competition. The shame for AMD is that HD290X have only 8.3 FPS in DX11 while GTX980 have in the same scene 26.7 FPS. That’s a big difference and we have significantly different bases from which we calculating relative increase performance. This increase would be much more impressive if the base for relative calculation would be the same.
So it’s nice if someone tell you that AMD will have 400% increase of performance and NVIDIA only 150%. It’s meaningless if absolute numbers are opposite.
The same is valid for AMD and Intel. Because Intel had better performance, the relative increase is smaller, while for AMD is bigger. But it doesn’t mean, that performance of AMD CPUs will be the same as Intels. They should be closer but that’s all.
End Intel Graphics!
Awesome picture. 1080p version would be nice 😉
Poor AMD. They really should do something.
iwant that wallpaper
how many gamers actually have a $500 980? only pc elitist do.most average gamers dont have a 980 hell im rockin my evga gtx 660 sc.and it still plays 1080p med/high settings on even the new games comming out.i am upgrading tho in a few months to a r9 280x probally.
I love AMD prod. Affordable price yet still powerfull. No need to spend hundred of dollars for just adding 1 fps 😀 Doesnt make any difference after all