Sony has released a new gameplay trailer for Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End. Back in E3, Naughty Dog claimed that its trailer ran on a PS4 in real-time at 1080p/60FPS. Therefore, we believe it’s really interesting to compare that reveal trailer with the latest in-game footage, as well as the game’s character models with those of Crysis 3, Ryse, COD: Advanced Warfare and Assassin’s Creed: Unity.
Do note that in the last segment we are comparing the cut-scene models from those games. In the case of Ryse, Assassin’s Creed: Unity and Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, the cut-scene models appear to be of a higher quality than those found while actually playing the game.
For starters, let’s compare the E3 model with the Playstation Experience model. Now this is the only comparison in which we’ll comment. For this comparison we used NeoGAF’s member ‘arevin01’ image. The biggest difference here is the hair. Let’s exclude for a second the different TOD and let’s look at the hair. As we can clearly see, the PS Experience model has less detailed hair (pay attention also to the edges).
As we claimed, Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End cut-scenes visuals seem of a higher quality than the actual in-game ones. A big difference between the E3 reveal trailer and the latest in-game footage, for example, is the complete absence of light shafts. Even in this scene – in which we should be getting some shafts from that hole – there aren’t any. In contrast, the E3 reveal trailer featured some lovely shafts caused by the moonlight. Even when Drake is fighting in daytime, there are no light shafts whatsoever.
Moving on to shadows. In the E3 reveal trailer, Drake’s model was casting some beautiful highly detailed self-shadows. Unfortunately, the latest gameplay trailer lacked them. While there are some ambient occlusion effects, it seems that a lot of light sources do not cast shadows. Furthermore, the lighting system itself seems simpler than the one used in the E3 reveal trailer. The shadowing system also feels simpler, as all self-shadows are “pixel-y” due to their lower quality nature.
As we can see here, there is an actual light source behind Drake and as a result of that, we get a nice shadow on the ground. However, notice the complete lack of self-shadows and how bland, empty and flat Drake himself looks. We may all agree that there are different TODs in this comparison, however there is no doubt that the whole lighting and shadowing system seems ‘downgraded’ (and that has nothing to do with TODs).
Last but not least, the E3 reveal trailer packed some realistic water drops that are missing from the latest in-game footage. Instead of those highly detailed water drops, we get some simple water splashes.
All in all, it’s obvious that the in-game footage is not up to what Naughty Dog showcased in the game’s E3 reveal trailer. Oh, and for what is worth, Uncharted 4 is undoubtedly the most impressive – visually – console game we’ve seen to date. This comparison does not mean that it looks awful. On the contrary.
And now, here are the comparison shots between Uncharted 4 and Ryse, Crysis 3, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare and Assassin’s Creed: Unity.
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Is it confirmed that they are still aiming for 60 fps?? Cause if it is than damn that’ impressive.
The demo was running at 30fps. Whether that’s an indication of the final product remains to be seen.
They better or i cant justify how HD remaster of the previous games this game is looking like.
really pitiful article from a no-name site trying for hits.
Stay mad, marketer.
I’ve been with this site for a while. It is all about game performance, graphics, and features. People did the same thing with Watch Dogs. To be honest the visuals look great anyway, even downgraded. Honestly I am more in it for the gameplay and story. I will likely buy a PS4 for this game.
They look a bit better than tomb riader, so much for “next gen”
“It is all about game performance”
“I am more in it for the gameplay”
performance = gameplay
I meant the site is about performance and graphics. I mainly game on PC (pretty much everything but exclusive titles). Honestly 1080p 60fps is preferred, but I can withstand 30fps. But I agree performance does effect gameplay. A game at 60 is way better than 30.
Can you bottle your tears please? I could do with a drink.
Welcome to DSOG. We have a never ending supply :^)
LOL, priceless.
Lmao
:))
Dem delicious $0N¥ paupertears.
hey there dan aka “ps4 is 350$ because dualshock4 is 50$” and “here is the opinion of a real pc gamer who says that your pcs cant manage to get the perfomance of ps4 achitecture” “pc gaming will die”
I got news for you pal, i am dakan45, and i was RIGHT about everything
ps4 is weak, the 120$ 750 ti runs any game better than ps4.
Pc gaming is larger than ever.
This game was downgraded and its not as impressive as expected.
So much for the sony corporate slaves like you damage controling for sony.
Enjoy your peasantry damage control sony gimp.
wow – what a sad, angry, lonely person you are. nobody should be filled with hatred over games the way you are.
btw – I doubt you’ve ever been right about anything in your pathetic life.
LOL
Picture below 1fps…
So far everything i said was right, but you seem mad, how is it dan? how is it to see that your world is a LIE and everything we have been telling you console fanboys was true?
But feel free to go to the cesspool called duashockers when sony fanboys can kill people and still not get banned. But everyone else does.
no – so far YOU said everything you said is right……I can’t tell if you’re too vain to see that or too stupid.
Right becasue everyone upvoted me for posting my opinion and not for posting facts or what they saw and agree with. So much for being “stupid” when you dont understand basic concepts.
let me make it simple for stupid fantards like you.
I won.
This generation is a joke, ps4 is weak, uncharted 4 is downgraded, a pc with budget hardware can be built and surpass ps4.
Sony lied to you, AS USUAL, once again you fell for hype and the pc master race was right warning you of all this.
The end.
Feel free to mail me your tears.
Remember before PS4 was released and we saw the DEEP DOWN trailers, $ony Tards proclaiming it was “gameplay footage”. We told them it wasnt going to be like that. “next gen” wont be like that.
We told them, they didnt listen.
They never listen.
yeah that run on gtx680, but hey the sony fanboys will tell you that wasnt downgraed either.
Welcome to the real world son, this here is not Sony’s bubble, it’s a reality check.
AAHAHh so much for those relegious clowns
son??? what goober comment – is everyone on this site an idiot? or do you all just talk like it?
Well, you took the word “son” negatively so maybe you should stop being so defensive about a widely used term. Who’s the angry one now calling everyone here an idiot. You’re not starting well are you?
yes everyone on the ENTIRE interent is an idiot, apart form sony fanboys like nelva who use their twitter to call everyone an idiot, i dont expect you or any of the fanboys to admit that the game doesnt look as good as E3, you suck sonys D to hard to admit simple facts and move on with your lives.
no – not everyone. but there are a healthy amount of no-name sites like this one with people like you who create this kind of article based on your bitter, bizarre hated for a particular brand. and that brand could involve anything from games to politics to religion to electronics. no I’m not right all of the time – the only reason i originally commented is because this article is so off-base and ridiculous in content that it’s obviously written by someone who is trying to vent their dislike for a brand – in this case sony.
what a shallow life you must have to carry around this kind of anger for a brand.
No name sites? Really? Really? Every pc gamer knows dsogaming, Take a look at sites like gaminbolt all they post is trash but they post it in n4g and they get views.
Your argument is wrong.
Unlike dualshills this site calls devs on their bs.
Also no the writer does play on playstaion but UNLIKE you, is nota blatant fanboy.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game journalism
Watch it get around on ‘bigger’ game media sites and they will rip it apart too. Sony’s render targets were always laughable and continue to be even more so.
Duashockers banned me and guissepe said that DSO is a trash site that posts lies and deleted the link
AHAHHAHAHH
Damage control at it’s finest.
I took a picture should be here shortly
Here’s something even more dramatic
At a silky smooth 30FPS :^)
$0N¥ PauperBrick Poor is lies and overhype that underdelivers. This was bound to happen. Poor man’s hardware can’t handle it at CGI quality.
http://a.pomf.se/okazks.gif
Is that what you tell your self to go to sleep at night?
First it is cut scene vs gameplay. Cut scene was not CGI and ran on PS4.
If you look at better quality uncompressed video. It looks pretty dam good.
Looks like it came from 2011
Ketchup, consoles
Hmm it does remind me of black ops from 2010 for some reason.
is that because pc gamers pee in each others but and make mustard? $pcmustardrace
Careful you don’t spill your dew and doritos all over yourself while you mash the keyboard in fustration.
pc is mustard cuz consoles cant ketchup!!
So much for next gen.
Hmmm…seems to me this will be yet another phenomenal console exclusive pc only gamers won’t be getting. Hmm…yet these types continue to show up in articles for games they won’t be playing. Hmm…methinks they dost protest too much. As a gamer who owns multiple consoles, I never even click on pc only gaming articles, I have no interest. Yet here lie the pc only crowd, constantly creeping around console exclusives. Hmmm…I think that about sums it up.
I game on PC and I couldn’t care less about uncharted. I play full scaled big games, not watered down linear style QTE movies.
Where does a console built around 5-year old parts factor into that?
Are they already obsolete? What about in 10 years time?
are you stupid? The hardware is obsolote? what are you stupid? The low requirments nowdays ask for 6-7 year old hardware and even if they dont they run can still run the game despite being under the lowest requirments.
infact the 750 ti is 120$ and runs games better than ps4.
PS4 GPU is a slower R9 270 (former HD7870) which is better than a GTX 750 Ti. It’s already been benchmarked on the interwebs.
Lol fool.
so its weak crap.
GTX 750Ti has a higher clock rate which makes all the difference in framerate and rez when powered with a more powerful CPU.
Meanwhile PS4 GPU is nowhere near a 270 which has 50% better specs in everything and nearly twice the Terraflops. PS4 is more like a 260.
How can you know nothing about GPUs and you call yourself a PC gamer O_O PS4 uses the SAME chip (Pitcairn) as a HD7870 only clocked at 800mhz (about 200mhz less) and 8 less Texture Units(HD7870 has 80). HD7850 (or R7 265) has less Texture Units than a PS4 (64 when the PS4 has 72) and a higher clock rate yet fails to produce better visuals. It’s been tested everywhere -> http://videocardz.com/30757/amd-radeon-hd-7870-and-hd-7850-final-specifications and http://wccftech.com/playstation-4-vs-xbox-one-vs-pc-ultimate-gpu-benchmark/
R7 260 is MUCH weaker than the PS4 GPU.
Here’s how it goes R9 270 > PS4 > R7 265> GTX 750 TI > R7 260x > XO and so forth.
As a PC gamer I know that 800mhz clockspeed kills the performance and the 7850 produces better performance when paired with a strong CPU and because of it’s higher clockspeed and overclocking capability.
But if you want to deny facts because of your Failurestation. Keep on doing so. You are just adding to the ocean of Sony tears in this comments section.
HD 7850 is clocked at 860 mHz stock. It does NOT produce better visuals. Clock speed isn’t as high determining factor when you don’t have enough ROPs, Steam Processors and Texture Units. That’s why you can’t clock a HD 7750 high enough to beat a HD 7950. Check any online comparison and you will see that in fact the HD 7850 even paired with MUCH stronger CPUs than the PS4 does not manage to overshadow it.
Also I never said I owned a PS4. I’m gonna buy one just for Uncharted 4 but I don’t own one so far. However I do make lots of PC builds and am passionate about PC hardware.
You need to visit some PC dedicated websites like TechPowerUp and read up and get more familiar with PC hardware.
750 Ti is nowhere near as good as you praise it to be… unless you’re a blind nVidia fanboy 😛
There was a SC model of the 750Ti that was clocked at ~1300 mHz from PALIT however that one was on par with R7 265 (rebranded HD7850).
Dude, I’m a PC gamer and your embarrassing us all.
Clock speed is pretty much meaningless out of the factory. Sure, you could grab an extra 5% performance (maybe 10% in certain places and games) but its not game changing AT ALL.
Take the GT440, Clockspeed of 810Mhz. Passmark score – 822
Now the GTX980, Clockspeed of 1126Mhz. Passmark score – 9761
Now do you really think that extra 300Mhz is responsible for decupling that score? No, of course not.
It is all about architecture not clock cycles. Why do you think i7 CPUs still average around the 3.0GHz mark despite blowing 3.0GHz Pentium 4s out of the water? Because clock cycles are basically MEANINGLESS.
However, despite your general lack of knowledge on this matter you are correct on one thing…..The PS4 GPU (& the Xbox One by extension) is an old-hat p.o.s
Clock speed is meaningless? Wow, this is news to me.
I’ve been able to get up to around 20% improved performance in some of my graphics cards simply by overclocking them. That’s far from “meaningless”.
Clock speed is meaningless………out of the factory.
Hey would’ya look at that! There was more sentence than you cared to address……
But please, do go on…..any other insights based on half a sentence?
And yet…it’s still just as wrong. Clock speed is never meaningless. Just because it isn’t the only consideration doesn’t mean it is meaningless.
Intel Core2 Extreme Q6850 @ 3.00GHz – 3,730
Intel Xeon E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz – 25,192
Yuuuuuuuup.
the old man speaks again, the only problem he is so old he cant remember what he is saying
It is but at the same time, which you console users just keep forgetting is that the PS4’s CPU is the bottleneck so the GPU cannot run at peak performance and one top of that, peak performance can rarely be achieved.
Did you know PS4 devskits make their demo based on PS4s peak performance on a PC?
You’re partially correct. PS4 has a CPU that’s pretty weak but good enough for 1080p (about ~90% of all games are 1080p on that system). Console games are better optimized then PC. When talking about “peak performance” there’s lots of things to take into consideration – per say the OS. Windows takes a toll on resources (WAY more than console OS). Look at PCs with i5 and i7 processors. There’s barely a difference in frame rates yet there’s a huge difference in CPU arhitecture. i7 has 4 more virtual cores however that equate to ~3 FPS increase over an i5 in games. Why? Again OPTIMIZATION is not strong on PC ports <<< and remember this word for it is ports that we're getting not games MADE for PC.
You could argue that PC and consoles are the same since they use the same arhitecture however building a game for a SPECIFIC configuration yields better results than whatever jumbled hardware people got in their PCs.
Also keep in mind that PS4's GPU has access to a maximum of ~5 GB of VRAM where as the PC version of the Pitcairn chips (HD 7850 and HD 7870) only come 2 GB of VRAM.
GPU and CPU usage remains set in the hands of the programmers/coders as how they write their code and work their way around limitations makes for games to run better. Per say they got pretty creative when using the KillZone Shadowfall MP resolution shifting technique.
PC mid-rate PC would demolish the PS4 in CPu bound games and that’s the problem with both consoles. Ubisoft had to spend 9 months optimisation ACU and pushing shaders to the GPU for processing because the CPU couldn’t handle it and still the game runs sub 20s-30. at 900p high-medium. When the PS4 goes GPU bound is strong but still held back by the CPU no matter what.
The PS4 does not have assess to 5Gb of VRAM, it has access to 5.5GB total, the other is reserved for the OS, same with a few CPU cores. The memory pool is game memory shared and video memory shared, it just takes what it wants for game memory and video memory out of one pool of memory.
FX 6300 or i3 4160 ahead then sure but anything bellow that (or equal) wouldn’t “demolish” the PS4 CPU.
By the way Digital Foundry stated (and you can see in the comparison videos) that AC:U runs at High settings with crowd at Very High at 900p. Problem is AC:U runs bad even on high end machines so that’s more the developer’s fault rather than the consoles. Not even a GTX 970 can run the game 60FPS+ at max settings (AA included) at 1080p.
I already said that the PS4 uses almost (~) 5 GB of GDDR5 VRAM which is quite nice. Especially considering that right now most cards come equipped with 2 GB VRAM and only high end cards pack 3-4 GB VRAM.
The difference with the shared memory is that PS4’s only uses GDDR5 wich is WAY faster than DDR3 (that we PC users have paired up with our VRAM). Also considering that X360 and PS3 had 0,5 GB of VRAM that’s QUITE a step up.
All in all the PS4 is a budget (cheap) BluRay & gaming machine with some nifty exclusives. Right now it’s price/performance ratio is quite good (better than that ALIENWARE “console killer” machine at 500$). I’d of prefered it if the PS4 had much better hardware and launched at ~700 USD price point to be competitive with high end hardware but it’s their call on what they build. PS3 and X360 were great for their time. When X360 launched it had the best GPU on the market! (not taking into consideration ppl that had SLI or CrossFire setups)
You can build yourself a PC of similar strenght at around the 400$ if you’re leaving out the BluRay cost but hey it’s a PS4 if you’re gonna buy one it’ll be for exclusive titles that you can’t play on any other platform 🙂
I have to agree with your point. When the PS3 intitially released it retailed for $499 and $599 depending on the storage configurations ($100 dollars for an extra 40GB). If they would have released the PS4 with better hardware, I think it would have definately been supirior. However, I own PC, PS4, Wii U (which I hate) and the Xbox One. I don’t discriminate. If a game’s good, then a games good.
Good enough for 1080p? The CPU? What? The CPU has very little to do with resolution.
And the reason there isn’t much of a performance difference between an i5 and i7 in some games is not due to poor optimization, but to the fact that the CPU isn’t the bottleneck in those situations. Those games run just fine on an i5 and they aren’t bottlenecked by an i5 so the performance difference is going to fall on the GPU.
You don’t know what you are talking about. You don’t seem like a PC gamer and you honestly come off as a Sony fanboy.
Please take some time to read about PC hardware before posting 🙂
Have fun playing at 1080p with a G series CPU from intel. Also please tell me what games have a huge difference between i5 and i7. I have never seen any.
Also because I know so much about PC hardware = SONY fanboy? =)) Nice1
Please feel free to read up about hardware on TechPowerUp, TomsHardware and watch some LinusTechTips on YouTube.
No, you don’t know what you are talking about. And you are being extremely defensive of the PS4.
And again, why would there be a difference between an i5 and i7 in terms of framerate when such CPUs are not the bottleneck in the majority of games?
Really? I’m shocked to hear you say that it’s perfectly normal for there to be NO difference between an i5 and i7… Do you even know that i7 (and i’m talking about the first 4 generations) has 4 more virtual cores than the i5? These cores are used to great effect in pretty much every compiling and editing software. Games on the other hand barely utilize them. That’s the problem. Bottleneck happens if your CPU is too weak for your GPU or vice-versa.
Problem is even with multiple GPU setups there’s almost no difference between an i5 and i7 in games simply because the virtual cores are not utilized. In fact not even the 8 core CPU from intel – namely the i7-5960x DOES NOT overshadow a i5… But here’s the thing the AMD CPUs (FX series) have their core properly used. So yes it’s a HUGE disappointment that games are not properly optimized to utilize more than 4 cores on intel chips.
Also you may want to take a look here where multiple CPUs were tested in relatively new games to see how they perform. Please note both the lower end intel and AMD CPUs as they hinder the performance of games at 1080p -> http://www.hardwarepal.com/2014/09/28/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/
Simply put the PS4 CPU (while very similar to the XO’s) is based on a MOBILE CPU from AMD. It’s a variation from A4-5000 chip (pretty much 2 of ’em squeezed together to get 8 core – ofc this is a custom job).
FPS in games is linked to CPU (as I think you’ve already seen in the tests made by hardwarepal). Keep in mind that a game’s resolution also taxes CPU (altho NOT as much as the GPU ofc). So far some developers have come forth putting the blame on the PS4 and XO’s CPUs for not being able to reach a steady frame rate.
Please note some games on PC are LOCKED at a max framerate (like for example CoD Ghosts – I think it was 90 or smtn) so whenever you look for tests online check if there are limits inside the game.
Again I highly recommend you read some PC hardware sites to become more familiar with what the components are capable of.
As for the PS4 it’s just a bluray player with the capacity of playing video games at a very low cost. It’s not like some1 is forcing people to buy it. Personally I’ll buy it just for Uncharted 4 and some of the exclusives.
Whichever platform you PLAY is both a choice and limited by your budget. I’d personally love to have all gaming platforms… that or well done ports for PC 😛
The original discussion that you squeezed yourself in was if (and maybe how much) would the CPU of the PS4 hinder the console’s performance.
More to it there is a possibility that SONY will increase the frequency (mHz) of both the CPU and GPU. The GPU is a scaled down HD7870 so it could get to 1000 mHz (200 more than the PS4 has at the moment) and apparently the CPU can be clocked higher (M$ has already done it when they launched the XO).
In the past SONY has increased the mHz of the PSP from ~200 to 333 mhz when God of War Chains of Olympus came. They may (and it’d be great) if they increased it this time as well. The gap between PC hardware and console hardware has never been greater this generation.
However it all boils down to game devs and how creative they get with programming.
For the record, I’m just laughing at your posts while playing BF4 at 1080p 60+fps(depending on map) on a Pentium G3258.
Have fun 🙂 G3258 is the anniversary model which can OC to 4.5 GHz to be near in performance to an i3 however it lacks HT. Too few people seem to know PC hardware =/
Please try and play AC:U at 60+ FPS at 1080p with that processor =))
Also your FPS drops are not map dependant but CPU bound. Get an i5 and it’ll run smooth as butter no drops.
It’s not that there are too few people who know PC hardware.
It’s that peasants are too many.
And you pretend to be knowledgeable too much.
Thanks for posting the obvious about a cpu I researched/bought/overclocked.
No, you don’t play AC:U at 60fps. No one plays AC:U at 60fps on decent settings.
No, FPS drops are map-dependent. Map affects number of polygons being drawn and number of players/bullets/explosions on-screen.
No, i5 would have fps drops when 20 missiles fly around choppers at same time while explosions happen…etc.
Stop talking about i5 and i7 as if you own any. If you did; you would realize the difference between 140+ and 120~.
For real? Here’s my spec
[img]http://i.imgur.com/SkJ3kjh.jpg[/img]
Your FPS drops are not map related lol. It’s your dual core CPU that can’t keep up with your GPU. I didn’t have any drops neither in MP or SP in BF4.
What are you talking about 140+ and 120~? I’m playing SMITE at 150 FPS max settings but that doesn’t mean squat since my monitor is only 60Hz.
Also if you did research about your CPU then why didn’t you buy a i3? A H81 MoBo (AsRock H81-VG4m is great for its price) + I3 was cheaper than a MoBo that could support 4.5GHz OC for the G3258. Not only that but i3 with HT is slightly better (especially in programs) and will allow you to bypass games that have 4core triggers. I mean really you shot yourself in the foot.
If you play at 60+FPS in BF4 at 1080p you probably have a GPU equivalent to a R7 265 or higher yet you choose poorly to limit your system’s performance with that lowend CPU =/
And yes people play AC:U at 60 FPS (especially after patches). I can play it at 50-60 FPS (no AA but other than that all settings maxed) at 900p.
Theres no bottleneck in the PS4 the GPU and CPU isn’t working against each other, they work in parral and share the same pipeline, if the CPU needs help the gpu carries some weight and vice versa. The only problem with Ps4 is that its underclocked.
You really should stop
what a complete tosser you get your stupid facts right first before you go talking s**t
i got my facts allright, it is you who has nothing better to do than being a corporate slave.
Yet here you are. Which means console exclusives matter. See ya.
sony’s yoshida
“only 4/10 sony exlsuives sell”
yes they matter soooooooooo much.
LOL
You can tell this curious fellow has no business acumen
whatsoever…were you born yesterday? Four out of ten is a successful
enterprise in gaming, considering how many games don’t sell, considering how many developers are shutting down, considering companies like Square Enix come out and say the Tomb Raider reboot was a failure right after it sold millions of copy in the first month of release. Ask your mommy for some money and go buy yourself a shred of common sense. You’ll find plenty of it down at the Sony store. Stop shopping at the poo shack and seek help son, your huggies are leaking.
No i dont think 4/10 is sucessfull enterprice then again thats how sony shills are damage controling anything
Then what, exactly, are you doing here? Methinks he dost protest too much!!!! Full scale big games?? Uncharted 2, goty. The Last of Us, game of the generation and the most awarded game in history. Yeah, you’re making plenty of sense!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! You can smell their envy!!! Uncharted 4, another goty contender/winner soon on the way!! Enjoy your “full scaled big games”!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
“he most awarded game in history.”
No not really, it got the most awards becasue the most sites exist now, there are games that are rated higher like say halo or ocarina of time.
It doesnt matter if unchated 4 wins goty, all it matters if its worth it, many uncharted fans didnt like uncharted 3 and this looks more like the same.
Whatever helps you sleep at night guy. LOL!!!
Can somebody please decipher this numb nuts gibberish and get back to me please with something intelligible?
It makes perfect sense idiot, its not the most awarded game in history, it has the most awards because we know have more sites to give those awards, if you mean the highest rated game? NOPE uncharted 2 is higher rated, halo is higher rated, ocarina of time is higher rated.
IDIOT
Wow. Sony paid for 10/10’s from paid shill monthly.
Am I supposed to be impressed?
It’s at times like this when we all realize the “pc master race” is merely a collection of simplistic children, suffering without the games they really want to be playing. Run home to your mommy son, your balls are showing.
It’s at times like this when I laugh at your buyers remorse and desperate defending of your toaster.
They must have paid alot of people because that’s widly considerd to be one of the best games ever made.
Why do you think Sony is losing money when they pay people to like their games
Do you wear glasses old man, cos you sure need them, do you even play games man on your old PC and Im talking new games not retro games that your master PC can handle
Someone’s butthurt. Keep defending your downgrade station 4 :^)
what you own old man, you still game on a 386, lets compare PC’s
Sony marketers running out of damage control tactics. lol
lol give it to the old man he can still remember to have a joke, I dont own a PS4 BTW I have a PC but i have learnt over the years to appreciate quality when I see quality which is very hard (unfortunately ) for nearly all PC based players cant seem to do
Its all the same games, Your PC don’t make anything better, look at the cross platform games, They offer the exact same gameplay, you guys are full it, I play PC and Console also, the only difference is input, but you can also use a controller in select PC games so there is hardly a difference, Listen to you trying to claim Full scale big games, ALL the big games come are made for the consoles.
actually 60 fps, better controls and improved graphics with free mp and lower prices plus mods does make everything better
I’d swear a lot of these PS fanboys are becoming more like Xbots.
smh
worse
Yeah, they’ve always been worse in my opinion. The Nintendo and Xbox fanboys at least generally recognize where consoles are in the gaming continuum. Sony fanboys have delusions of grandeur.
yup agreed completly.
“What, what’s this? You’re giving SONY shit for shilling out money for an exclusive game?! You fucking piece of shit! How DARE you question Sony! I’ll fucking kill you and your whole family if you question my lord and savior again!my mom spent I spent 400 dollars on that hunk of plastic and I don’t want anyone talking shit about it or the company that made it!”
Pretty much.
60fps is good, but its not needed for every game. Better Controls? You don’t get button pressure sensitivity , you really enjoy playing fighting games or Racing games, or platformers with a mouse and keyboard? Improved graphics? Thats all depended on the hardware you have, or the game in comparison. Free Multiplayer? Theres F2P games on console as well.. Mods make everything better? Thats selective , How many games support mods, which are easy to config or access. Mods don’t always make games better, It just gives nerds something else to do. Its amazing that you need mods to make PC gamers better, if they are already so good, compared to the rest, Why is there a need to improve it?
You are such a ridiculous console fanboy.
I guarantee playing games at between 80 and 144fps, as I do with most games on my Gsync monitor, is a VAST improvement over any console version, both in terms of the way it looks and feels to play.
The rest of your post is just more mental gymnastics trying to make yourself feel better about your favorite console. There is nothing wrong with gaming on a console, but at least own up to the truth.
” therre is nothing wrong with gaming on a console, but at least own up to the truth.”
Thats the Point. How about you own up to that? This fan boy name calling stuff is ridiculous also.
You’re a fanboy, I’m not a fanboy just because I appreciate games on every platform.
You’re trying to brag as if anyone cares that you use a gysnc monitor to game? I dont care ,no one does. Your experience is your preference , I game at 60 – 4000fps depending on the game, and at up to 4k resolutions. It makes zero difference to me.
It will never change anything I still boot up the Nintendo, Playstaion or Xbox and have plenty of fun. While you sit around here constantly being pissed off about what someone else choose to game on, Thats pathetic you tool.
“You don’t get button pressure sensitivity”
??????
” you really enjoy playing fighting games or Racing games, or platformers with a mouse and keyboard?”
To be fair pros use custom fighting sticks and driving wheels, i am ok with dirving games with wasd becasue i dont like having to press x to accelarate, if i could accelarate with the thumbstick…
“hats all depended on the hardware you have”
Even 120$ 750 ti perfoms better than consoles
“Free Multiplayer? Theres F2P games on console as well”
no FREE MP, as cod, battlefield etc etc. you dont pay for psn and xbl.
“.. Mods make everything better? Thats selective , How many games support mods, which are easy to config or access”
Yes mods make everything better, say you find skyrim casual you can make it harder, there are auto installs for big mods but modding is about customization, you can just wish it be like “i want to mod this game but i dont want to bother doing it” thats impossible you have to actuall do it.
“ts amazing that you need mods to make PC gamers better, if they are
already so good, compared to the rest, Why is there a need to improve
it?”
No one “needs” mods, we just enjoy games more do you not understand how a game might not be suitable to someone but mods actually fix that for all audiences?
look at gta v, it gota fps mod, please tell me how that did not improve the game for fps gamers?
Simple stuff really. Why do you even need to bash mods is beyond me.
Yeah and there is no difference between mcdonalds and high quality food either. Or between a walmart mp3 player and high quality audio equipment.
…if you are unperceptive and biased.
You right, there’s not a difference between the food, its was made to get you full. Why Pay more for something that turns into Poop after wards?
MP3 Player and higher quality audio equipment? yeah one is more expensive than the other, and sound the same with headphones LOL
keep trying re**rd.
those console exclusives nobody play.. come back when over 20 million players are playing daily after 6 months of release then we will talk business. Even a f’ing card game on PC can pull in bigger numbers than any console exclusive
am sorry what? You gonna damage control the downgrade shil?
pathetic, yes we are the ones lying not your pathetic sony shilling sites.
You’re confirming a downgrade on an pre-alpha build? LOL!! Yes folks, they really are this confused. ND delivers yet again, and the best they can do is point and say, “well, it doesn’t look as stunning as we thought it would”…TO A PRE-ALPHA BUILD!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
AHAHAHAH so funny, its not like naughty dog has done this MULTIPLE TIMES OVER.
So long story short dont expect this to look as good,
But all i gotta say is this if this is alpha, or pre alpha, that means the E3 trailer WAS NOT a part of the game and it was just a target render or a tech demo.
No matter what you do it will NEVER look like that.
Uncharted 4 is a great looking game, but not the true next gen beating title you thought it will be and it will never be.
LOL!!! Pre-alpha build hate!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!! Whatever helps you sleep at night guy!!!!! Wash up guy, I can smell the butthurt from here!! It stinks like “me can’t play game, me have no console, so me go onto site and bash game me no able play”!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! What a winner!!!
http://i.imgur.com/vMuTzix.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fCAkZMN.png
Stop
being Idiotic fanboys you clowns kept saying that this will look like e3 we pc
gamers told you it wont and for every retard who thinks this is pre
alpha and the game will look better.
http://i.imgur.com/LfOBnhz.jpg
Stop shilling for naughty dog they always downgrade TLOU was shown with e3 with amazing ai, it never got that.
You morons thought ps4 could do the graphics from that cutscene at E3, well
it cant and for the record crysis 3 and the order look far better than
this game, if your immense stupidity and fanboysim still things that
this game is the best looking thing ever, let me point out 2 things, you
clowns were saying the same for uncharted 2 compared to crysis. You
cant tell the diffirence between art and actual techinical graphics.
Finally this is aimed to be a 60 fps game so logically speaking it CANT
be the best looking gmae on next gen you idiots.
So much tears and damage control. It’s beautiful
Now the guy is informing us he’s crying into his keyboard? Too much information guy. Wipe your tears, put your pants back on, and pray very hard little boy that one day you may get to play a Naughty Dog game. Good luck with that.
well heres the thing they get jealous that they cannot get these kind of big budget exclusive and they wont why would a dev support piracy i did not find any proof pc version of any game sold more than ps4 and xbox heck they cant beat ps3 in call of duty AW pc version in sales out of 7.5 million only 94,480 units sold.
hey u have xperia overlay of xperia ray ??
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game journalism
Like you’re ketching up on third party console games?
Lol you short sighted personal computer users are actually prety silly..
funny because i dont see anything here other than you damage contorling sony LYING to you again.
It reminds me of women who get beaten by their husbands, and the moment the cops show up to arrest the dirtbag, she comes running to his rescue.
Sony Fanboys are abused women. /thread
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
Maybe thats because my balls are hanging from the top of your head, to the lower part of you chin. Reinstal a driver on that! You muppet Hahaha
you look like you came from 1918, go back to sleep idiot
23 days later and you still mad
nah not mad just bewildered that an old man can still find a keyboard to type
Make excuses all you want but the original e3 unveil looks a lot better than what they just showed. That e3 trailer might have been running real time but it was just him. Devoting all the resources to a close up shot is a lot different than using those resources on the entire map. The game will not look anything like the unveil. Sony is known for unveil trailers looking way better than the game. killzone 2…3…or 4 anyone?
EXACTLY, simple and end of story.
something good quality game comes to ps4 or xbox people of pc piracy brag like babies they always do
http://www.vgchartz.com/ once i only saw goat simulator sold on pc thats it
Are you using VGChartz to make a point about PC gaming? Do you know it doesn’t take into account digital sales, which 95% of all PC gaming revenue is made of?
hehe. I love seeing people that are so clueless that they think console gaming is the market leader or something.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/04/28/as-global-pc-game-revenue-surpasses-consoles-how-long-should-console-makers-keep-fighting/
Lol VgCharts.
vgchartz doesnt count digital sales which is 95% of pc sales soooo yeah. Try again.
Yea. Cause it cut scene vs gameplay.
Every single game out there has difference between cut scene and gameplay graphics.
Yes. That includes PC. Now go cry about them. lol
Nope. There’s a bunch of games that their cut scene are running in game.
Crysis 3 is a good example.
pictures speak for themselfs
http://i.imgur.com/vMuTzix.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fCAkZMN.png
You morons kept saying that this will look like e3 we pc
gamers told you it wont and for every retard who thinks this is pre
alpha and the game will look better.
http://i.imgur.com/LfOBnhz.jpg
Stop
acting like you are blind or clueless, naughty dog always downgrades
TLOU was shown with e3 with amazing ai, it never got that.
You
cowns thought ps4 could do the graphics from that cutscene at E3, well
it cant and for the record crysis 3 and the order look far better than
this game, if your immense stupidity and fanboysim still things that
this game is the best looking thing ever, let me point out 2 things, you
clowns were saying the same for uncharted 2 compared to crysis. You
cant tell the diffirence between art and actual techinical graphics.
Finally this is aimed to be a 60 fps game so logically speaking it CANT
be the best looking gmae on next gen you idiots.
You do realize that you just compared a Cutscene to real time game play right?
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Bwk0Y0tnD0U/VIZv1EbufjI/AAAAAAAAAOE/snFeUpbOwpU/w1744-h1028-no/hi%2Brez.png
You guys need to look at what sony fanboys were saying every day since E3… and have now completely flip-flopped.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835985
Looks not that much better then Tomb Raider and that’s a last gen game.
That’s what I was thinking. I play Tomb Raider maxed out on PC and honestly this UC4 footage didn’t impress me that much because it only looks marginally better than that. I have no doubt that the next Tomb Raider on PC will look better than this.
Keep them tears coming, the fact remains, It’s DONGRADESTATION 4 because it can’t handle it.
what about the xboxone?
Who gives a F***
x1 cant even handle full hd. 2014 and it struggles to put out 1080p with most new releases.
Yo Liontwat, why do you delete your posts?
Also what’s a dongrade?
Keep deleting your posts You Are Flat Out Wrong. Your crying is evident with your empty accounts trying to vote up the Sony shills claiming there is no downgrade when there is a downgrade and upvoting your own posts. How pathetic are you really that you know no one likes you and you have to upvote yourself.
Your silky smooth peasant tears are nourishing.
man look at all those fake accounts
Actually this looks way way better then even Crysis 3. Finaly this is the next generation and to tell the truth, it’s way way better then anything we have seen on the pc!
trolling much?
You’re right mate, I will put my head out of my as* LOL!
It is obviously downgraded as you guys says :/
Nice mental retardation you have there.
Lol, no it isn’t.
Looks like a downgrade to me 🙁
My my my. That is a lot of fake upvotes from empty accounts you have there.
Seems Sony reputation managers have hit the article.
@JohnDio:disqus You must be loving that this article actually got the the sony damage control squad in.
yeah, and it happened in a few minutes, i just refreshed and 3 become 46, lol.
yeah i like the names of those fake acounts they are hillarious.
Nothing like the tears of a butthurt Sony fan blaming Microsoft for Sony’s underpowered toaster and downgrades to make you laugh uncontrollably.
What’s even more pathetic is how you lurk around every comment and teasing people who own consoles because you’re so damn superior with your high-end PC. I’ve got a very high end PC too yet I don’t feel the need to laugh and mock other people for choosing to play on a console. Sounds like you got a real micropenis there along with your big high end PC dude, that’s a shame.
Obvious Sony fanboy is obvious. Whether you actually have a PC or not is irrelevant.
Sony fanboys are the absolute worst at mocking people who game on other platforms, so it’s hard for me to feel bad when other people mock them.
First of all I am not a fanboy, I will not defend the PS4 at all costs, and fanboys mock like you said, I didn’t mock anyone for using a PC as I am a PC gamer myself too, I was mocking this pathetic dude for feeling the need to mock to every comment and calling PS4 gamers “Butthurt” all the time, what is that if not being a fanboy? I game on both the PC and the PS4, I actually spent over $2,500 on it and it has a GTX780 which allows me to play all games at highest settings. However with that being said, I personally don’t find any PC games exciting at the moment regardless of how good the graphics are… I care about story and gameplay, and the PC doesn’t have anything particularly good to offer at the moment IMO in that area. And btw if you still think UC4 was downgraded, please watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7HzcvdZh_Y
Where did you find the uncompressed video?
https://mega.co.nz/#!NBcA3BiK!AB4PDO0ni2ZvTPDpjXmsQRu2Ttaw-KuvAZFMtlDQdwo
http://gearnuke.com/uncharted-4-psx-demo-looks-even-better-color-corrected-comparison-now-uncompressed-footage/
This moment and others were that make my jaw dropped.
from their own stupidity, the game doesnt look anywhere near as good as E3 it looks average.
lol u mad ?
pictures speak for themselfs
http://i.imgur.com/vMuTzix.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fCAkZMN.png
You morons kept saying that this will look like e3 we pc
gamers told you it wont and for every retard who thinks this is pre
alpha and the game will look better.
http://i.imgur.com/LfOBnhz.jpg
Stop
acting like you are blind or clueless, naughty dog always downgrades
TLOU was shown with e3 with amazing ai, it never got that.
You
cowns thought ps4 could do the graphics from that cutscene at E3, well
it cant and for the record crysis 3 and the order look far better than
this game, if your immense stupidity and fanboysim still things that
this game is the best looking thing ever, let me point out 2 things, you
clowns were saying the same for uncharted 2 compared to crysis. You
cant tell the diffirence between art and actual techinical graphics.
Finally this is aimed to be a 60 fps game so logically speaking it CANT
be the best looking gmae on next gen you idiots.
It’s nothing about that scene is not good. It’s about it’s not being as GOOD as it was shown earlier. Clearly the 1st CG to get ALL the hype and later the real stuff. Consoles strategy has ALWAYS been about hyping. Before and After Last Gen & Current Gen.
If they can manage to get that close to CGI , and have real time to look simialr to Pre-rendered I don’t even see a reason for complaints. I work with CGI and 5 years ago it took up to 20 mins – a few hours to render a single textured mesh with a basic light source and clothes. and these video games look like that stuff, but renders on the fly at 30 on up to 60fps, without breaking a sweat…
People are not impressed because they never had to experience what i have or what the developers have. And its getting even harder to impress people these days…
what is to explain there is a detailed comparison here and all you do is LYING with ignornat nonsense like “2 yeasr and your 1000$ pc hardware is obsolute”
lol what?
I have to agree. I’m considering selling mine and just going with and Xb1 and a pc
You do realize that 80% of the XB1 games don’t even run at 1080p right? If you claim PS4 is weak, the XB1 is 50% weaker…
i can say one thing pc always bad for buisness sony and xbox has and always will have best sales of games
proof from n4g and many source
The PlayStation 4 version of Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare was by far the most popular with sales of 3.05 million units. The Xbox One was the second biggest platform with sales of 2.06 million units. Sales for the last generation of consoles has declined for another year. The Xbox 360 version sold 1.22 million units, while the PlayStation 3 version sold 1.09 million units. The PC lagged behind with just 94,480 units sold.
plus something good quality game comes to ps4 or xbox people of pc piracy brag like babies they always do
Those sales don’t include digital sales, which is how most PC games are sold.
But you can’t just pick and choose which games to compare sales for. You have to look at the big picture. PC game software generates more revenue each year than all of the consoles.
Actually, I think that the reason PC sales were so low is because of pirating.
The downgrade is already in effect just like it happened to Uncharted 2 and 3.
http://oi40.tinypic.com/r26fz4.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/wr249.jpg
http://oi40.tinypic.com/24mcaoy.jpg
Thats not a downgrade you f’ing re***d. Both those Uncharted 3 shots are PRERENDERED VIDEO CUTSCENES. Why would they downgrade VIDEOS?!
Screen shots, taken at different moments, With different clothes with different light sources lol… And you guys claim downgrade?
LOL only fools fall for these type of comparisons. You all tried the same thing with infamous. That green hue in the last 2 pictures is from the light shining in the bus. During sunset. it creates a dull effect. Details naturally get washed out.
The light engine was different in the e3 cut scene, Also the Bus was not in motion in the e3 trailer..
… LOL its a cut scene anyway, If its not real time but Pre-rendered as you all always claim…Then what is the need to down grade? Pre-rendered means the graphics can go past the limitations of the hardware.
It might not look as good as e3 did this way, but this is the effect the artist wanted to achieve. Everyone has a different Idea of what they think is beautiful…
I do see a texture drop… Could that prove that these cut scenes were done in real time? Other than that, its not rally much of a downgrade..
Notice in the pictures how light plays a big role on the outcome of an image.. also in the video look at the colors before the bus moves out of the shadows into the light…
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MQx3w6eQY6s/TY60jjsFf_I/AAAAAAAAAVI/gOSdRa3b97E/s400/sunsets+look+great+through+the+bus+window.jpg
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/CC-121-093-800.jpg
http://youtu.be/TSR-ChO8ays?t=43m55s
Only me probably…but what an awful choice top show off Uncharted 4 gameplay…I found it way too common…hoping that it’s one of less impacting part of the game
Everything has been done, Graphics are already near the brink of realism. Now developers have to focus on the very small details that pulls everything together, Graphics won’t be much more impressive than what we currently have. it takes more than just visuals. People need to figure out what’s involved in making games , to appreciate the work.
And if you need a refresher, Just watch some old Nintendo or early PC games, Even N64 or PS2 graphics for about an 15- 30 mins then come back and look at these graphics, your mind will then think WOW that looks amazing.
Hello, Lionheart the loser. Haven’t seen you recently. Banned from VG247, huh?
Funny watching rscottyg’s three alt accounts talk to themselves.
Hey $0N¥ pauper, banned from VG247? NOPE! Poor $0N¥ PAUPER that can’t afford anything else like a real gamer. It’s delicious watching your paupertears making up excuses. Keep them coming we’ll continue to laugh at your expense, PAUPER!
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates
Can’t even use your real account because everyone here laughs at Sony’s biggest shill, You Are Flat Out Wrong.
It’s OK. I’ll continue to laugh as the PS4 continues to get cuckolded by the PC Master Race and you defend the cinematic silky smooth 30FPS movies :^)
“Master Race”
Yet none of its exclusives are ever relevant. 🙁
At least you have facebook games. LMAO
You undeliver at life. You are a bore.
LOL, now I know for a fact this kid is just trolling for attention.
I know for a fact you are on damage control
Back to dualshillers :^)
look whos talking
atleast you can call those “nes 8bit” games, actual games.
The graphics look pretty damn near the initial reveal. All the things
that were missing were mainly shaders and lighting tweaks. Those are
probably the final touches. As for the hair… Well, “The Last of Us”
used similar hair techniques, but, I think that the final product will
look more refined, like the reveal. As for Nate’s character model, it
does seem to be downgraded; however, because of how detailed his
brother, Sam, was, I expect that the quality will be increased. Let’s
not forget that this is an unpolished demo being compared against a
polished cinematic trailer. The map in the trailer was probably perfect
in every way, but it was probably that way because it was so small and
therefore easier to complete. How about we comment about the graphical
fidelity when the game is actually released?! All these PC gamers are here just to hate on the console, but the fact still remains that they’re not going to be able to play this great game unless they break down and do what a lot of them swore never to do: buy a console.
Console users have no credibility when it comes to image quality..
I am not just a console gamer. It was very imbecilic and pretentious of you to assume something like that. Any dedicated gamer has a PC for cross-platform and a console for exclusives. Most PC gamers don’t think twice about consoles. Why should they after they’ve spent thousands of dollars on their gaming rigs? Well, that’s not the way I see it. If you have money, buy both. I have plenty after my father died.
Not even a PC can handle games at CGI quality. Did you know Pixar uses over 2000 CPU’s and GPU’s to render their graphics? Now why should anyone expect a Little PS4 to do the unimaginable? You have to admit though, PS4 delivers stunning visuals considering its powered by underclocked hardware, “outdated hardware”
http://www.linuxjournal.com/files/linuxjournal.com/linuxjournal/articles/067/6783/6783f2.png
http://imgur.com/nrMyTBE
I just posted the link and said to someone that no the lighting doesnt look amazing you gotta be kidding me.
Apparently FACTS do not count as facts in dualshockers since its a cesspool of fanboys.
Sony fanboys attacking xbox and pc articles are not “Trolling” but if you post a link
Then the site you got it from is called trash and the damage control intensifies with
-denial
-ban
-deleting infromation that hurts the relegious followers of the site.
So much for free speech.
http://i.imgur.com/9LoXnKo.gif
Why are you comparing a scene with a ton of fauna to a scene with rocks, (unless you’re purposefully trying to deceive people)?
The 15-minute gameplay video had plenty to choose from.
It’s downgraded. Deal with it
Downgrade.
This game is a year away.
looking at naughty dog history the opposite is the case, it will never look as good.
More like a year and a half with how buggy and downgraded it is.
You might want to remove your “Glorious PC Master Race” Goggles, this demo looked pretty amazing.
Amazing? it looked on par with multiplats on pc.
Nothing next gen about it.
You think we are trashing this becuase we are “pc master race”
Allow me to quote Total biscuit on the order
“the order looks great for a console game”
EMPHASIS ON THE CONSOLE here because games always look better on pc.
This game looks great, but its not he next gen game the graphics king that the sony fanboys kept saying it will be.
So much for the hype.
My PC Master Race goggles played it when it was called Tomb Raider and back in 2013.
It looked and ran better too.
And it cost much less than the PS4 fraud edition and looked better.
More like 5 years away.
And yet look at the resolution of the image you posted “2048×1147”
because it was a capture from an ipad.
http://postimg.org/image/o010fcj7d/
enough with dualshockers and its totalitarian behavior.
How this guy even has a job at this point is beyond me he is the biggest sony damage controlelr i have ever seen, clearly biased and does more ham to “public relations” than good.
Let it be known that duallshockers is not a site to be taken seriously, just sony damage controling and attacking everyone else who doesnt join their cult.
http://www.gamepur.com/news/17239-uncharted-4-thiefs-end-psx-color-corrected-vs-actual-gameplay-screens-shows.html
this will tell you why it was a washed up gameplay
Its your fault for not being able to tell the difference between a real time cutscene running on a PS4, And real time gameplay running on PS4… Thats the diffference, in the new gameplay trailer they show detail that is just as detailed as the previous Cutscene from e3 only this time you get actually play it.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Bwk0Y0tnD0U/VIZv1EbufjI/AAAAAAAAAOE/snFeUpbOwpU/w1744-h1028-no/hi%2Brez.png
Here’s a screenshot from Game Informer. You can see that the character model is the same. Not that it matters much at this point because people are going to believe what they want to believe.
Oh boy. Another bullshot and peasants still trying to claim it’s not downgraded a month after it was.
Fly away at a silky smooth 30FPS peasant
You know what? Don’t call me a peasant. I could buy you. I could buy you a thousand times. Secondly, it hasn’t been downgraded, but clearly you’re too caught up on hating consoles to ever consider that. Thirdly, I own a PC as well. You get consoles for the exclusives. And you get PC’s for multiple platform games. If you’re too blind to see that a console is offering something great like this video game, then you’re not into games as much as you thought.
OK peasant. Here’s the facts. It’s been downgraded, peasant. Deal with it, peasant :^)
Clearly you don’t know what “peasant” means. Because I am neither a poor farmer, someone of a lower social rank, or someone who is unintelligent and rude, especially not when I’m compared to the likes of you. I’m not going to get worked up over a non-auspicious, troglodyte such as yourself whose measure of self-worth is nothing more than gloating about how great your PC is. Get a girlfriend. Get a job. But more than anything, get a life. It is depressing because clearly your life consists of nothing but gaming. It’s pathetic really. And as far as I am concerned, unless the developers specifically say that the game has been downgraded, then it hasn’t been. There’s nothing we can go by (in means of game-play) prior to the original reveal. Do you know what that means? It means that game-play was never downgraded, because it had never been shown at all. Of course the trailer looked better! It was an art directed cut scene! I’m sure that when the game is released, it’ll look so good that not even you will be able to say something against it.
Tell me exactly where the downgrades are, please. There are no downgrades from the character model; though, the foalage doesn’t look as good, but the level is using more resources than the initial E3 reveal. Furthermore, you’ve misused the word, “facts,” twice, as you presented only a single “fact,” and it is also technically an opinion. So, now that we understand each other, why don’t you take your pretentious, ideocentric, and copious PC fanboy-ism and choke on it. Also, have a good day.
Still doesn’t change the fact the game is downgraded, peasant :^)
Still you fail to state where you believe the downgrades are. Thank you for your foolish stupidity, which never fails to put a smile on my face.
I really love that you just couldn’t help but to comment on my post. It just proves that you require constant attention. You probably have the mentality close to that of a six year-old. Obviously you don’t even own a console and you were here just to gloat about it being downgraded, which isn’t even true.
Ps4 on left pc on right.
Lol i just watched the uncharted gameplay
Feaking tomb raider and max payne 3 on my old pc look as good as this
Seriously this is the “uncanny valley” visuals they were hyping for the sony drones?
The too good to be true hype nonsense?
The game that looks better than anything on pc they kept saying? PFFTT AHAHAHAHAH
The true next gen
experiance?
REALLY?
It looks like a game that with lower quality textures
could have been pulled off in the last consoles.
Seriously what happened to the lighting? Its not impressive at all. The order destroys
this game, shadowfall looks better as well.
Come on, thats pathetic.
Also ripping off tomb raider again naughty dog? Really? You gonna go there with similar level design and a grappling hook?
Also as the article says… IT HAS BEEN DOWNGRADED…. naughty dog the company who invented downgrades, downgrading? LOL NO way.
I told the peasants the game wont look as good When is this next gen coming?
Seriously though i finished all 3 uncharted games and this doesnt look as good as the “Teaser” it loooks like uncharted 3 in tomb raider enviroments with a hd texture pack
No wonder they are “aiming” at 60 fps.
Well no reason to get a ps4 now since it was the only game i was interested in and it feels awfully familiar to the previous games, feels too much of the same, like we done that before 3 times, it should have ended at 3.
You’re playing P$ games?
Yes i have played on my old ps3
uncharted 1,2,3.
resistance 1,2,3
i liked all of them
Didnt like Tlou that much.
I played god of war 3, god of war 2 was far better.
Killzone 2 is freaking overrated, short, borring with bad controls, killzone 3 atleat has better enviroments so its better in my book.
Infamous 1 is a overrated repettive ugly game, the second one is actually decent.
Good, I’ve never played a Playstation/Xbox/Wii exclusive game.
You dont miss much.
Especially on xbox, halo and gears are among the most overated dudebro games i have ever played
Though, I’m a bit disappointed at the visual differences of then and now. I know for a fact ND will pull off good magic as the years go on with PS4, Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 2 and TLOU show tremendous visual differences and quality. Uncharted 4 in comparison to whatever game they make, like hypothetically Uncharted 5 down the line (as an example, since U4 is the last as they tell us) U5 would look much greater. Looking back at Uncharted 1, it looks quite ‘meh’.
Where, U4 can look Meh – U5 and the game AFTER U5 on PS4’s hardware certainly can be expected to be much greater as well. This much should still be certain. The only game I’m still only caring for is MGS5 and Deep Down though.
I applaud you for admiting it unlike the sony fanboy damage controling drones.
You making comparisons based on what? This is not ps3 cell architecture. Games will look better over the years with better technology, but honestly this HUR DUR TLOU BEST GRAPHICS is nosense, by 2013 TLOU graphics were unimpressive and a step down from uncharted 3. This wont happen this time.
Honestly uncharted 2 wasnt this big jump people think it was, it was mostly artistic than techinical superiority.
Ps4 isnt some unkown alien cell architecture with a lot of power.
Will games look better in the future? DUHH ofcourse naughty dog is the ICE team, they handle those stuff, this game looks worse than the order and shadowfall in my opinion. Dont expect this gen to be as big jump as the last gen 3 years from now.
As for uncharted 5? Didnt they say this is the last one? Lol they making another god of war YAWN let it go already make new ips.
Isnt deep down f2p?
I don’t defend really anything, people just like to presume such things like “If you don’t attack something like we are, you must be defending it!” in most cases.
Based on just the history of Naughty Dog games too, ontop of hardware. Compare Crash Bandicoot 1 to 3. Compared Jak 1 to 3. Compare U1 to U2 (Cause U2 comically looked better than U3). It’s evidence enough in my mind to know that with PS4, they should do the same thing where their 2nd and 3rd game will obviously get a much needed boost due to Experience with the hardware, not implying they’re pulling rabbits out of hats here but everyone of course becomes more efficient with hardware the more they work on it, as per the saying of filling a glass with stones – then pebbles, and refining it further in optimization via Sand in the cup. Same principle. Same as every game at the launch or early-end of a consoles’ life to the later-life look much greater. Xbox 360 included where Oblivion looked great at the get go? Kameo? Gears 1? So-on-so-forth. Naughty Dog are talented, but they’re not Gods, they’re like any other developer, they need time and experience, the only way to do that is make games on the platform and keep making more and getting better :L
As for Uncharted 2 / jumps and TLOU herpderpbestevar. Not that I’m saying its Teh Best Evar, but from U1 to TLOU is a good leap. Both in code optimization and in of course, the most important thing that is never realized is the Techniques involved in blurring the lines of console hardware limitations. Naughty Dog aren’t ‘Great at making great visuals’ they’re great because they ADAPT to the weak hardware and use tricks to make the visuals seem great, illusions, techniques, features, a reduction in things less apparent to make the things More apparent more pleasing. Artistic touches ontop of all that make for a visually-appealing game 😛
Yuh, U4 is supposedly the last, I just used U5 as an example, hypothetical I said. As per the difference of the whole, Crash 1 to 3, Jak 1 to 3, Uncharted 1 to 3 all were on same hardware, so if I made a comparison of if PS4 had ‘Uncharted 4 to 6–‘ then I’d say how they’d become more competent with the hardware. Yada yada. But they’re going to stop at U4, hopefully. Don’t think it’d be wise to milk the name further after U4.
It’s F2P, yeah. So, as long as Capcom doesn’t f*ck it up with idiotic microtransactions, then I’m hoping it does well. Warframe for example does F2P justice in my mind. Warframe, where you CAN get any weapon, equipment or item 98% of the cases but its P4Convenience rather than P2W. If Deep Down was released and was acknowledged as P2W I’d be quite sad.
and dualshockers banned me and deleted the post, haha damage control to its finest.
Neogaf has banned dualshockers apparently because its a trash site of anboyism and lies.
They banned me there long long ago, scumbag site mostly. I was simply having a discussion with a person who was impersonating me and TRYING to get under my skin, I didn’t budge but was casually talking to whoever it was and they magically presumed me spamming their site and literally talking to myself, which I wasn’t, they f*cking IP banned me for talking to a troll that looked like myself IP BANNED!!….. Then when I tried to send them a mail telling them what happened, they got back to me 5 months later saying sorry and to tell them who banned me, I told them – then I never heard from them again. Lol
Mostly a sensationalist website who devotes their time bringing up their special sauce rumour sources from 4chan and gaf with their super-secret spies who lurk behind the scenes and take every news and whisper that comes out of Neogafs’ rear. Ehn.
Though, whats Dualshockers gotta do with here at DSOG?
Funny thing Neogaf has banned duashockers ,they dont consider it a good site either.
But n4g, n4g loves that.
N4G is basically from what I see, allowing everything and everyone to become news. I’ve seen random irrelevant and barely-game-related news make it as ‘News’ because of how relaxed the site is with not caring and wanting traffic at all costs. Let alone they also censored things with the gamergate crap that went around too. “Pewdiepie ate a sandwich” HOLY I GOTTA UPLOAD IT ON N4G AND USE MY FOLLOWERS TO UP IT TO SUCCEED AND GET SUBMITTED :O!!!
Shokio had a video on how the sony 1.1 billion loss was flaged by sony fanboys on n4g and failed to make it through multiple times.
So much for n4g.
I think majority of xbox fanboys that always had lurked there simply gave up and lurk elsewhere, while it’s full of Sony-people now. It changes each generation, I remember during early-PS3/360 days it was a mix of both but prominently Xbox-based and each Pro-360 article would be swamped with Xbots and the Sony articles would be swamped with trolls, Xbots and the Pro-sony types. Since back then, PS3 had a small install base and was the underdog and whatnot.
Now most Pro-PS comment gets thumbed up to hell no matter if it’s disagreeable or not. Any person who may have a neutral opinion or be pro-xbox even if not a troll, or even if not instigating a flamewar, generally have their comments Disliked for the simple fact that they’re being positive to xbox. Like, if someone said “Good luck, Xbox is doing better now!” it’d probably have more disagrees than agrees.
“PS4 is kicking a**!” would get 200 agrees and 40 dislikes in contrast.
confirmation bias.
Of?
no i mean this is how confirmation bias work. They create a echochamber and hear their own opinions and filter the rest with bans, like SJWs do.
nevermind.
On the people on N4G or how I’m explaining what my personal experience and perspective was upon observing my surroundings on a particular site? . . . . lol
people on N4G, not you dude
k 😀 Just making sure.
Lol have you seen Nelva’s twitter page? Also snivelling to N4G LOL
ahahah thanks for this, the butthurt is real he is attacking multiple sites for pointing the downgrade in uncharted 4.
The Dualshicker hate is real in this thread. I like it. I got banned too.
I generally hate anywhere if it even remotely has signs of a power-mongering moderator/admin/staff. So, that leaves me with very little places to actually legitimately care about.
Someone doesn’t understand the hardware at work.
Unlike the PS3, PS4 is essentially using standard PC hardware for the most part. No real trick to pull, only optimizing for that specific hardware which can only go so far now.
So when you said ‘Someone’, you meant someone random who I’ve not seen yet, or yourself?
You’re acting as if since the hardware is ‘typical PC hardware’ that that must mean it’s a situation where programmers will instantly be able to max it out basically, instantly? lol. PC Hardware or not, as you said in the latter half of your comment which is basically what I had said, a developer can optimize for that specific hardware. More can be drawn out of it unlike any/all PC developers because they’re catering to a ‘standard recommended/maxed PC rig’ that not everyone has and everyone may variably play games like ‘Dying Light’ on Low or Medium while only a Minority play it at High and Max, especially where it demands 16GB DDR3. Hardware that is static and a developer uses more of, the more they can pull out of it as Well as using techniques and more optimized code. It’s dialectical, not one-sided. Yes it obviously can only go so far, but you’re talking like there’s ‘Magical hardware’ then ‘Typical hardware’, all hardware has a limit, but again with the Cup w/ stones, pebbles then sand analogies and squeezing a wet cloth to get the water and drips out. Experience with hardware that never changes can bring the most out of that specific hardware no matter what the hardware is.
See it doesnt demand 16gb that was wrong now it says 4g and 8gb and i highly doubt those requiments are true sicne games latelly lie about their requirements to sell hardware.
Will it be optimized? Who knows, dead island ws, but those requirments are lies.
I was simply expecting them to have made a really unoptimized game XD Their engine isn’t overly fantastic and Dead Island chugged with optimization problems. However, I just am more skeptical with the ‘requirements’ because this is the first game that’ll be released that will use their updated engine, the Chrome Engine 6, whereas they used CE5 on Dead Island. I’ll remain skeptical until I see how well it runs on my rig, I’d rather play it on PC than consoles.
and Ah, I see they have changed it, as well as on Steam. Although the old-specs are still apparent on the laughable ‘Season Pass’ page.
Digital foundry confirmed it doesnt look like the e3 trailer but i am sure that sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
You trying to affirm my reaction by agreeing or disagreeing with you so you know my stance on things? I go with what’s most factual – lol. But yeah, I saw the site too. e3 trailer was brushed up to look fancier, although the engine is capable of rendering the characters like that the deception lies where they’d not be able to put that quality in both level design and quality and character design and quality under PS4’s hardware, it’d be a limitation which is again what the techniques are meant for. The trailer was just “scenes/faces/characters brushed up” – Yes, that is what the engine is capable of, but that just means it’s a techdemo for the engine, not the game. Most devs do it these days, even Heavy Rain did it, and Ubisoft does it all the bloody time. Though, people like Ubisoft do it with much more deception and lie through their teeth a bit more blatantly in my eyes at least. The footage is Real Time – but isn’t what is realistic when put in a playable game with the foliage and characters and AI to boot all around at once. If on PC, likely. Cause then the engine could go to whatever lengths that it can be pushed, all resources in.
It still looks great though and there is the ONE variable, which was that level in itself was apparently quickly designed for the purpose of e3 and rushed to be played in PSExperience, so I expect flaws, blemishes and it to be rough and without 100% touchups, this much I can understand if it was rushed and not like “This is level 3 and its done” – but it was a playground roughly made to be presented like how there wasn’t even a proper killbox designed when the guy playing it died.
agreed
Guys it’s an early built. The game is still at least a year away from release!
You seem to be new to naughty dog, they invented downgrades their games NEVER look as good as the pre release footage.
You are clearly playing different games to the rest of us…
ahahahhah sure thing just type it on google and see for yourself.
Also we do play the same games its just that unlike you i am not a sony relegious zealot.
Yeah compare teaser trailer for the first uncharted, and the real game, same goes for first screenshots of U2 and the final game, you amateur
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Yes i am sure digital foudry is also a amatuer
And yet it’s getting worst from it’s first reveal.
Compared to a game like Star Citizen, it’s only gotten hugely better from it’s reveal.
Nice try Sony employee, but you still failed.
Sony emplyee wtf you microsoft fapping troll
Oh. Forgot about this one and this one too
http://i.imgur.com/zAVlJGc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J8vvBlr.jpg
The gameplay of uncharted is better than all this s**t .stop spreading lies .
lol what a downgrade thats embarassing
wow, that made me feel sick. It’s like a 2 generation difference!
CoD AW : best graphic of the years
I KNOW RIGHT? Man dualshills must be damage controling like crazy.
Derps head has probably exploded by now.
He is preparing his long copy pasted rant. What i want to see is how some guy called “you are flat out wrong” that insists on calling everoyone a “xbox insect” is going to take this.
Glory to the pc master race and lord Gaben, for showing us the light and not lie to us like sony and ms do to the peasants.
Currently trying to pretend he doesn’t care and calling anyone who laughs at him an xbot and screaming “XBONE HAS NO GAMES” as usual. Then upvoting himself with empty accounts to make it look like he has support.
AHAHAHAHHA lol from what i heard ps experiance was a disaster too too many indies not enough games.
Almost everything was also on PC and guaranteed to be better on PC.
And the Final Fantasy VII “Megaton” was just the PC version being ported to PS4. Damage control is an understatement.
So can we call this a disaster?
It was indie crapalooza. Many if not most were on PC (and likely better there) anyway. Sony is a dying company with so much hanging on this that they are desperate for every straw they can clamp on.
The kicker was the Final Fantasy 7 PC port.
yeah passing pc indies as exlusives.
Really? they re-re-releasing FF7?
Man at this point the sales that game made is enough for a next gen remake.
Too bad someone took over his original account 🙂
yeah you should post about the uncharted 4 downgrade, even guisepee nelva is mad about it and trashing other sites in twitter its hillarious.
Hahahaha! I gotta see that!
hey how dare you, its pronounced $ony & M$
guissepe is making sure the truth never reaches dualshockers, everyone make new acoutns and use proxies to post the article.
Nah man the party is now, i invited them, let them come, dso get views we get the laughs.
Mounce is already here with the passive aggressive damage control. The rest will come later.
This is the most hilarious disaster since the Sony E3 2006 press conference.
Guissepe just banned me for posting the link, apaprently dso is a trash site posting lies and him not banning the sony trolls is fine.
No its how a game would look in 2013-2014, not a next gen title that will look better than everything.
They dont deserve any respect they are shills, sony corporate slaves and massive fanboys, i hope they get cancer and die.
Hahahahahha
OMFG, that is an epic downgrade, even worse than Watch Dogs, but but we thought Naughty Dogs had super secret source from Sony’s hardware no one else had. :-D.
Did you bring beer? Sorry i meant sony tear bottles.
The damage control is strony, every youtube video has comments “you are blind the graphics are amazing” damage controling.
An amazing and enlightening article John , good job.
Have you heard dualshockers nelva idiot called dsogaming a trash site for posting facts.
Damn the sony damage control intensifies, we talking about relegious fanatics here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What a moron.
i have the picture i posted it below, this should be a prime example of FANBOYSIM on dualshockers.
Years have passed derp and other sony trolls are still there insulting people, i post one link and i get banned and he called the site “trash”
Man nelva isnt someone who knows that sony fanboys are a relegious cult, he is one of those nutcases.
So much for game journalism.
check his twitter the butthurt is insane.
It’s hilarious. Especially since his only website is based on “X said on twitter” these days. He’s a hack and mad as heck
no wonder neogaf banned him i posted a pic above from him damage controling unity as “playable” on his ps4 on neogaf and another one on how he flagged news in n4g so he can replace it with his.
Check it out, its on his first post and feel free to pass it around so more people can see this.
Reviewtechusa should report on this since nelva attacked him and he said he is waiting for nelva to screw up, i messaged him, you should mesasge him too on his facebook.
Gamersyde’s direct feed, uncompressed footage disagrees:
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_uncharted_4_a_thief_s_end_psx_gameplay_demo-33743_en.html
Comparing that to the E3 build shows all of the details are all there, actually it looks much better, but haters would have to be ignorant of the facts. All the effects are there, this game looks better than all of the comparison examples mentioned above.
It looks no better than Tomb Raider 2013. It looks nice but nothing amazing and it really looks like Tomb Raider and Uncharted are copying each other.
Rubbish, it looks night and day better than Tomb Raider 2013, totally amazing IMO.
Uncharted has evolved much more in the gameplay side too.
Hmmmm. I’m going to say “No”. Shill.
It loks a bit better, but come on, this is not day and night by any stretch of the imagination, nor is close to the E3 trailer or looks as good as the order.
All we said is that the game wont look as good as the E3 trailer as it is tradition by naughty dog.
Thats it, its not bad looking game, it still looks great but this “next gen” amazing looking “uncanny valley” photoreallistic bs that dualshockers posted from some naughty dog emploeye? LOL no, it doesnt look as good as E3.
Dude the difference isn’t slight, it is absolutely night and day better, no need to use any imagination, when the gap in quality is this big. Uncharted 4 is better visually than The Order and this build is much crisper, has more details added to it compared to the E3 build.
I never said anything about “uncanny valley”, because UV is about games looking odd, Uncharted 4 looks very realistic, particularly the opener of this PSX build, I never mentioned photo realism, maybe you should actually pay attention to a comment you’re replying to.
Hell Tomb Raider isn’t photo realistic, it’s semi-realistic, even running at 4K on the highest settings on a high end PC, but looking at the IQ of all of the games mentioned in the DSO article Uncharted is the best.
Ryse is using pre-rendered images in the comparison DSO made, but Uncharted still looks better, plus it has more environmental effects, more animation in the scenery.
You can of course think or believe whatever you like, I don’t have to agree, but from a technical POV the amount of stuff going on in Uncharted 4is more impressive than the comparisons DSO made.
Uncharted has better looking environments, more effects in the air, the lighting was said to be using a similar kind of Ray Tracing tech as Q-Games are using in The Tomorrow Children, that was before this build was unveiled and the video footage of Uncharted 4 from PSX bares that out.
In time other games will come along that take those steps further forward, but right now, looking at platforms within the same hardware level as PS4 or around it Uncharted is the best looking thing on anything.
I’m not saying a higher end machine can’t run anything better or that better coding on even similar or slightly lower specs can’t go passed what Naughty Dog have achieved in U4, but ND have definitely set the bar and that’s my mind set.
“Uncharted 4 is better visually than The Order”
Am done.
Its obvious there is massive fanboyism here based on “looks” not actual graphics
Good luck on your delussions sony fanboy.
“Uncharted 4is more impressive than the comparisons DSO made.”
i first seen a gameplay in youtube and what came into my mind was “this is tomb raider with hd textures” I was littearly dissapointed mainly from the lighting, that wasnt purelly streamed footage or anything but actual hd quality at 1080p that i could clearly see the detailed textures and drakes hair on his hands.
“Uncharted has better looking environments, ”
OMG they are the same thing as tomb raider but they put vegetation on them, infact i was dissapointed that they didnt have any good looking enviroments.
Stop being a fanboy.
if this is “next gen” i am still not convinced to buy a console or invest on a new pc.
Sorry but this is 2013 on pc jsut more HD than before.
Nothing ground breaking and it doesnt look as good as the E3 trailer.
I said it, it wont look as good and the game isnt the amazing next gen best graphics ever they said it will be.
There you go, color me unimpressed ill wait until 2016 which is propably when its gonna come out.
Lather rinse and repeat again, as per usual, hater comment, can’t understand that people don’t have to share their opinion.
I’m no fanboy, if a platform I like for the most part has a release that doesn’t interest me then I’m not going to form my opinion based on the facts I may like the company, that can always change.
I’ve been talking nothing but technical, when I speak about Image Quality (pretty sure I’ve mentioned that here), technically there is no downgrade, the Gamersyde, raw footage shows that, comparing E3 to PSX.
There’s clear negative bias in all of your comments, that colors your opinion, whether it is because you are a fanboy of some other system and just can’t seem to be objective I don’t know, but your comments give you away kid.
Talking about a game that looks as polished as this not being available until 2016, even though no evidence bares that out.
Acting like there’s nothing but texture improvements compared to Tomb Raider, which I’m afraid is utter fallacy.
You claim to have seen the GS footage, but I doubt you have, looking at Tomb Raider running at ultra on PC, hell you claimed to be a PC gamer, but now are saying you don’t know whether to buy a new PC, LMFAO giving yourself away, seriously anyone with the some knowledge of PC hardware and where it’s going should know there’s little reason to even invest in a new PC right, not until HBM memory, new CPU core architecture starts to role out, investing now would be a ridiculous waste of money, unless you’re getting a great deal, you’re certainly not seeing anything besides 4K and even then to run new games like ACU or the like with demanding code will be very expensive to make stable 4K a reality.
If you do in fact have a reasonable rig, then DX12 on PC will probably make a huge difference, since it’s so unoptimized relative to consoles and their APIs.
If I was a fanboy I’d be saying stuff like “nothing will ever beat my PS4”, I haven’t once said anything of the like, like the extreme Xbots that believe secret sauce, DX12 and any other MRX/Insider nonsense will unlock to allow Xbox One to beat a 5TFlop PC.
Think about who you’re accusing of being a fanboy, just because I’ve given my honest, objective opinion, which is formed by the evidence I see in front of me.
Going back to Tomb Raider there’s no comparison speaking of Image Quality, looking at the level of effects, the level of geometry, the lighting is much more complex, all of this stuff is more demanding than what TR2013 is running.
I’ve just watched the Gamersyde PC footage for TR2013, it’s not even close, maybe if SE makes an update, in a Definitive PC Edition. but as it stands the only thing TR2013 on PC has on Uncharted 4 is that it can run in 4K and amp up the frame rates, maybe if the community has done additional mods I haven’t yet scene, but the official dev release doesn’t have anything extra, Uncharted 4 is very much a current gen title, in the 8th gen era, looks clearly, vastly improved over last gen.
I’ll keep my objective opinion, change it based on future evidence and will thank you not to keep telling people what they can and can’t think.
I am not gonna read all that, all i got to say is this guissepa nelva is MAD so mad in his twitter and attacks every site that points out the downgrade and calls it trash and idiots.
I have been in this site for a long time i am a pc gamer and i buy a playstation late for some exlusvies.
I am dissapoiinted at this gen.
if you claim not to be a fanboy, dont go to dualshockers anymore it is obviously a site shilling for sony.
It’s funny how you’re comparing Uncharted 4 on footage feed to you by Sony of a game that’s not out and yet you can say what you say. It’s like Infamous Second Son, it has a photo mode that makes the image looks superior to raw in-game shots. You are defending a game you haven’t even seen on your own screen in the belief that the game will be like that.
The same people like you said the same thing about the trailer and that was fake, Digital Foundry clocked it at 60fps because it’s just a target render. Uncharted always looks better then every other game in consistence according to Sony Playstation fans, what more can we say when you come here talking the same junk over and over again.
LMFAO Uncharted 5? I’m comparing gameplay Uncharted 4 to the games mentioned here and basically anything comparable, stuff running in real time, on PS4, that everyone would see when they play the game, as it is right now, Gamersyde is direct feed, uncompressed footage of the gameplay that’s been released right now.
Gamersyde isn’t some example of a touched up screenshot, with photomode tweaks, it’s raw, game footage.
If it looked bad then I’d say that, if it was lacking then I’d say that, but technically it’s very impressive, definitely has more visually going on than any other console game too date.
Why do you feel the need to try to change someone’s mind, when I’m not some brainwashed person, I’m an adult, with an objective mind, I’m not saying anything for the sake of it because it’s a Sony Playstation game, it’s because it’s a great looking game, I take the title and judge what’s been shown on it’s own merits, believe that or not, I’m not gonna change your mind, clearly you’ll think I can’t think any differently just because it’s a Playstation game.
Haters of Playstation have seemingly gone on some ridiculous rampage today and they expect people that actually were impressed by Uncharted 4 to automatically agree with them, when they bring nothing to the table in the way of good objective evidence to support their points, it’s clear trolling, the same old PC Master Race, Xbox One is the best thing ever, Ryse destroys everything graphically on the XB1 release.
I’m not talking junk, I’m being an objective person, that has formed my own opinions from the evidence at hand. I’ll change my opinion if evidence comes to light that I objectively see is reason to make that happen, that hasn’t happened.
TBH the majority of the internet seems to agree that Uncharted 4 is stunning, that it isn’t a downgrade from the E3 build, that it looks better than any comparable game too date.
That’s the way things are.
For some reason all of these haters particularly on DSO can’t seem to have the maturity and confidence in their own mind to even grasp that others don’t have to share their opinions.
Listen to yourself, you’re only here to defend a game that’s not even out yet on a PC gamers website. We may talk about downgrades on any platform until you lot come here just to defend your precious Uncharted game. PC gamers don’t care about the game, just the fact that it’s been downgraded like other games, we don’t live in your Sony bubble, you came here, I don’t own a console, I’m here because it’s where I belong.
Listen to yourself and look who’s getting all touchy now, can’t even deal directly with the points at hand.
I never even said people can’t comment on downgrades, if they exist.
Don’t pretend like everyone that’s commenting here is a PC gamer, most are likely fakes, who use PC as a way to say they don’t need a system that they have some hatred for and PC happens to have a game on it.
A little bit of news for you kid about psychology, if you talk about something, you care about the subject. 😉
You wouldn’t even look at the article if you weren’t interested.
I’m talking reality about what I see, the downgrade doesn’t even exist, not looking at raw, uncompressed footage, if the downgrade actually existed then I’d agree, but it doesn’t.
I don’t live in a bubble, a platform gets a game that I want to experience then I will, hell Zelda on the Wii U makes me want one, I’m sure I’ll probably want to play Halo 5 when it’s properly unveiled.
If PC had enough games I wanted to play and my friends played on PC then I’d build a rig to play those games.
That’s what happens when you’re an objective, none fanboy gamer, it’s what we’re all like. If Uncharted had looked bad I’d have said so, it’s not my precious, I like the series, I think Naughty Dog are great developers, but they’re not my god or something and if this game had gone in a direction that I don’t like or something I’d say so.
Anyway I’m judging the footage that’s been shown, I have my opinion, it looks great, best thing I’ve seen so far from gaming and I look forward to playing it when it comes out next year.
Next time don’t get so touchy because someone else has an opinion, that’s been formed from viewing the evidence.
Well, people like you come crawling out of the woodwork on these sorts of articles, we never see you here otherwise.
” Gamersyde is direct feed, uncompressed footage of the gameplay that’s been released right now.
Gamersyde isn’t some example of a touched up screenshot, with photomode tweaks, it’s raw, game footage.”
1. have you playd it at home yet?
2. Deosnt look as good as E3 Uncharted, they lied to you.
AGAIN. You dont listen, you never listen.
1)Well I can’t have can I? What I said is true, Gamersyde uses raw, uncompressed direct feed footage from a platform source available.
2)I used my own eyesight, which is very good, comparing similar sources of footage, it’s all that’s available to see and IMO judging by that the PSX build looks better, technically it has way more going on.
Again? We’ve never spoken before to my knowledge, though I don’t need to be told, I’ll look at what’s in front of me and make up my own mind about what I see.
Right, you do that, bye then and don’t come back.
LOL you said Uncharted now looks better crisper than UNcharted E3 build.
“and this build is much crisper, has more details added to it compared to the E3 build.”
TROLL= CONFIRMED
The irony in this comment of yours Ian, hypocrisy too.
People can’t seem to take other people’s opinions for some reason, does it hurt you personally?
Yeah, the PS4 version of Tomb Raider 2013 look night and day worse than the PC version, agreed. LOL
I am insane for saying that apparently.
What a blind idiot.
But then after that absolute bomb of a conference, no wonder he is on damage control.
Man dualshockers let ps trolls run along and do whatever they wanted, i thought it was just me, apparently no, he doesnt ban ponies only xbots and pc gamers.
Anyway the shtstorm is the same everywhere, youtube, ign, gamespot the sony damage controlers are attacking anyone who says the game doesnt look as good as before.
Pathetic, sony relegious zealots
Lol. Only damage control I see here is the butthurt folks jumping over SF5 exclusive and comparing youtube videos. LOOOL. Hilarious.
Are you seriously comparing Cut scene graphics to actual gameplay?
At different lighting conditions? No shadows without direct light source?
Compressed crap out of youtube footage?
Is this a joke? or you just desperate?
“Are you seriously comparing Cut scene graphics to actual gameplay?”
WE KNOW THIS, the sony fanboys dont reallize taht the actual game wont look like that.
Another crying shill. Get the buckets. We’re collecting plenty of tears tonight.
Sadly we cant collect them due to cencorship and damage control hype parade.
Dude. Let’s go play Star Citizen. The best looking game ever! Only thing we need to do is buy the game and then pay another $2000 for spaceships and everything! It looks like s**t but no one should care because it’s a PC exclusive and graphics will eventually be amazing because it’s in pre-alpha stage! Wait, what? This game is in pre-alpha too? No wonder it looks worse than a polished trailer shown at E3. Suck on Gabon’s d**k. And get some ice to put on your sore as**s. I’ll have my bucket here just in case you want to cry into it and letting it all out.
pathetic, you comparing a game that was crowdfunded and cost less than the average AAA game and has gigantic maps with a linear scripted hollywood shooter?
Finally, someone civilised to converse with. I’m not comparing the games. I’m merely comparing their development. You see, I expected Star Citizen to look a lot better than it was supposed to because these PC Master Race trolls keep using that in their arguments on how that’s the best looking game. I, being a PC owner myself, check out the game at HD quality and doesn’t look as impressive as thought it would. I reply to said trolls, they say it’s in pre-alpha. I say the same thing here because ND said so the game’s in pre-alpha and E3 was the representation of the final build so they’ll be able to get close but most probably not match the level in the E3 trailer. And these salty trolls are being hypocrites out here. Not my fault. They give PC gaming a bad name. They’re pathetic. I’m only trying to unite the gaming community.
There are two problems here, naughty dog is known to downgrade and their games not looking like the reveal. It is impossible for star citizen to look the best, because it has large enviroments, but it can easilly be the most techinically advanced games thanks to the techonlogies it uses.
Like I said before, TLOU’s AI was downgraded and UC3 visuals were allegedly downgraded in since scenes and PC Master Race gamers took only those scenes and made a big deal out of it, accusing them of downgrading. When ND only did was change the environment. Go to YouTube and type in “Uncared 3 old vs new build Norbert”. You’ll get a video by Norbert something. You can see that there’s been some improvement.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
Digital Foundry is one of the most trust worthy out there. But keep in mind, this is speculative. It is indeed a E3 downgrade. But this is pre-alpha build and even they questioned whether it’d be outputting almost at the level of E3 trailer next year.
You must be new at naughty dog, they awlays downgrade their games never look as good as the reveal.
From whatever I saw of Star Citizen, it has the potential to be the best looking game out there despite the gigantic open world. But the graphics aren’t as good as what PC Master Race gamers hype it up to be. But I’m sure they’ll improve it because it’s in the pre-alpha stage and that’s what the PC Master Race gamers say too, “It’s in pre-alpha, it’ll look much better at release”. I was trying to make the same point with this game and they hypocritically dismiss the idea.
Yes, Naughty Dog downgraded the AI (not visuals) on TLOU and only a few scenes have been downgraded on UC 3 (like Chloe in the bus). PC Master Race gamers took those few scenes and blew allegations out of proportion like they always do. If you could go onto YouTube and look up the video: “Norbert Uncharted 3 old vs new”, you could see that they in fact improved the graphics in most of the game since the older build.
I’m not being a fanboy because I’m defending them. I own a PC and a PS4 and would like to buy this game.
But PC/PS4/XBox Master Race is a plague to gaming. I mean, if a game gets downgraded or badly ported, what the f’ did the console gamers do? Attack the developers out there.
There is a diffirence here, star citizen is a large game and the graphics do improve every time they show they game, uncharted 4 is a linear game and naughty dog is known to downgrae and not manage to live up to their trailers.
” I mean, if a game gets downgraded or badly ported, what the f’ did the console gamers do? Attack the developers out there.”
watch dogs.
Uncharted 3 Gameplay Demo (E3 2011): http://youtu.be/mwywuVzrJTg
Uncharted 3 Walkthrough – Chapter 15: Sink or Swim: http://youtu.be/BhzMR-vxYIk
From this, you can see that there’s no sign of a visual downgrade. It was the PC Master Race propagandists who you see posting the screenshots of a few scenes and leading everyone to believe that THE WHOLE game was downgraded and that Naughty Dog downgrades all their games. Oh, the funnier thing is, they compare cutscenes. And UC3 uses pre-rendered cutscenes. But the fact is overlooked by many. And it was at max 3 scenes that were visually less appealing in the final build.
Here’s an example, this other part of the game is CLEARLY an upgrade.
Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception – Old vs New Build…: http://youtu.be/EFKiWVxQ1tc
Lol, I love how you have to lie about Star Citizen. Contards are so pathetic.
Lies,eh? And yours is the dismissal of the truth. Keep telling yourself that.
All those mountain dew flavors and you choose salty.
Oh. What did you say? Little PC Master Baby wants his Gabon wi**er to wipe his tears on?
So i just checked neogaf, apaprently dualshockers is banned because its a “trash” site and people say on neogaf “if this was from ubisoft everyone will be trashing it”
lol everyone knows
this new trend of this 30 fps cinematic it start to piss me off i mean they are bringing pcmasterrace down 😐
They call them selfs developers i call them lazy pot head Sony slaves!
I love this this website of trolls and butthurt denials. LOL Youtube as comparison. LOL YOUTUBE!!
and cutscene vs gameplay. ahahahahah
you mad? PC games get treated like shiiitz
The E3 reveal trailer looks far better than the latest reveal trailer, and both are from youtube.
I can upload two youtube videos one heavily compressed one alot better…
Just look at the screen captures and gif. completely different from the youtube video.
Compression aside, the gameplay trailer looks different than the e3 trailer, like the water quality and droplet, etc. Even Drake’s model looks like it has more details and polygon on the e3 trailer.
The water quality? Watch the trailer again, play close attention to how the water interacts with the rocks. The water’s the same as the gameplay. Character model is the same as well.
digital foundry has done the saem, so digital foundry must be clueless as well eh?
http://static3.gamespot.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/1537/15371732/2751489-uc44.png
I am sorry what? There was no shadow in areas with no lights? LOL. these fanboys grasping hard.
Youtube compressed video looked pixelated? LOL here. Desperate fanboys dont play game to know that compressed footage from actual game. cause they got nothing to play on PC
If you look at better source of the footage. Here. Seriously when was youtube every a good source for image quality? Really?
http://a.pomf.se/okazks.gif
http://i.imgur.com/jNHlFMS.gif
http://a.pomf.se/ebzxfq.gif
http://i1.minus.com/i2blyjGIH50dO.png
Sorry but the image quality still doesn’t match up to the first e3 trailer. Impressive visual sthough, for a console game, TBH.
http://i1.minus.com/i2blyjGIH50dO.png
I guess that would depends. Cutscene are not same as gameplay…
Account made yesterday. All posts are damage control comments
San Mateo you are not fooling anyone with this blatant viral marketing.
cut scene vs gameplay.
that cut scene did run on PS4 though. Was confirmed not CGI.
It’s CGI, even the gameplay trailer is CGI. You probably meant pre-rendered. Because, it sure looks like it’s pre rendered compared to the gameplay trailer.
At this day and era games shouldnt have a diffirence between cutscene and gameplay.
People said “woot this looks amazing, best graphics ever” ALL WE SAID was that it wont look as good as the teaser
Thats it.
WE wre right, sony fanboys keep on damage cotnroling.
Come on!!
What i gather from the gameplay trailer was that the cutscene is the same detail as gameplay , the only thing that was impressive was the character model… upclose its till impressive
Digital foundry dissagrees.
How can you trust what they think?they ignored the fact that e3 was a cutscene , No where did naughty say it was gameplay. They directly compared that to the gameplay that was shown in the first gameplay reveal! Get out of here.
“they ignored the fact that e3 was a cutscene”
http://i.imgur.com/vMuTzix.jpg
everyone did.
What have we been saying?
“the actual gameplay wont look like that”
What was the fanboys response
“you just jelly naughty dog confirmed this is actual ingame engine footage”
Well there you go.
I mainly play on pc and i dont see this massive detail between ENGINE cutscenes to gameplay.
I dont see it in far cry or assasins creed i dont see it in cod, i dont see it anywhere, why is it a case in uncharted?
Confirmed not pre rendered.
ND confirmed running on PS4 real time. Only difference was that was cutscene vs gameplay.
and gameplay ran in real time. Guy even glitched out in game too.
“Confirmed not pre rendered”
cut scenes are still pre rendered (like all of ND games). that footage they said is realy time which i doubt, they didn’t said the cut scenes in there are real time.
Not true if the cutscenes are running on the hardware being rendered in realtime. Like they are now anyways. They did say that they didn’t need to pre-render anymore since the PS4 hardware is powerful enough.
also not true, they always use pre-rendered cutscenes in their works not just because of hardware but directing it, it’s a safe bet, bug or glitches in cutscenes wont happen. they could use real time cutscenes in TLOU remastered but they didn’t, they never do this, ND never done it. it’s pre rendered, we will see.
Although they said they no longer need to pre- render since Ps4 is powerful enough… so you think they are lying?
You don’t sound so sure, you ended with we will see… Thats not very confident after you wrote all that…
Its real time and thats my bet. We’ve already seen it with the new game play footage.
“ou don’t sound so sure, you ended with we will see… Thats not very confident after you wrote all that”
unlike you, i don’t rely on others comments or marketing tricks, i’m skeptical and all of ND games didn’t use that. we saw nothing in the new trailer, we saw a gameplay video with cutscenes, which might be real time and i doubt it or it might be pre rendered cut scenes and maybe even downgraded more in the final product. either way, this isn’t a technical achievement.
We know for a fact that E3 game showings are mostly done on a PC, hence we here are always very sceptical about what Sony or Microsoft say or show.
Holy crap E3 was a cutscene!!!!! The game play already match the cut scene with a cutscene at the start of the trailer!!!! Which seamlessly trasistions to gameplay! GET OVER IT
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Midstr8/posts/dhAviN1n2yc?pid=6090678503578959410&oid=112055470066830958318
i can say one thing pc always bad for buisness sony and xbox has and always will have best sales of games
proof from n4g and many source
The PlayStation 4 version of Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare was by far the most popular with sales of 3.05 million units. The Xbox One was the second biggest platform with sales of 2.06 million units. Sales for the last generation of consoles has declined for another year. The Xbox 360 version sold 1.22 million units, while the PlayStation 3 version sold 1.09 million units. The PC lagged behind with just 94,480 units sold.
plus something good quality game comes to ps4 or xbox people of pc piracy brag like babies
stupid much? 95% of pc sales are digital so you cant count vgcharts as proof.
Piracy is a thing and has been a thing since forever YET pc gaming makes mroe money than all consoles combined google it. Yes cod isnt selling on pc anymore, that a GOOD thing not a bad one.
Crysis 3 frogs say meh.
http://i.imgur.com/KEn2EcS.jpg
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417908507969.jpg
Sony Pauperbrick Poor. I see what you did there. Jesus dude, you just pop up everywhere to bash on Playstation consoles. And you are a re**rd. The PS4 is now going for more than the Xbone and it is a more poweful console. The specs don’t lie. I just wish I knew what you intend to gain from doing what it is you do. Otherwise, hate on homes. Hate on
This is a PC Master Race website. Accept your inferiority and move on
So what? it still gets downgrades and at 120$ gpu can beat it.
all i see here is butthurt “they got nothing to play on pc”
Steam has more games than all consoles combined.
Is this game bad or ugly? NOPE looks great but its not as good as e3 trailer.
You can go to that light section, you can comment on the blocky rocks, you can look the lighting around drake, you can look at the hair, the point remains it doesnt looks as good as e3, most naughty dog games didnt.
I watched the trailer on 1080p and it had HD textures, so i cant talk about “compression” since everything was clear, the lighting is not impressive, nowhere near as good as E3, this game is not this big super duper graphics king everyone said it will be, that will go to uncanny valley region as someone from naughty dog said.
The order looks far better and thats it.
Naughty Dog has stated that the E3 Reveal is footage from an actual cutscene in the game. We are comparing the cutscene to actual gameplay. In no way, will gameplay ever look as good as the cutscene.
those actual cutscenes are not real time though. they are pre rendered in engine cut scenes
You don’t pre-render in engine. Pre-rendering is the process in which video footage is not rendered in real-time by the hardware that is outputting or playing back the video. Instead, the video is a recording of footage that was previously rendered on different equipment …
“Pre-rendering is the process in which video footage is not rendered in real-time by the hardware that is outputting”
yeah and it made by the engine assets not other engine or softwares. they have an engine capable of doing more than the hardware the game ran on it, they made that cutscene with that engine with a better hardware and then they record it.
If you believe that to be true so be it. Neither of us can actually prove each other wrong…. But was the New game play footage, Pre-rendered as well?
“If you believe”
it’s not believe. thats the reason why some companies use pre rendered cut scenes and it’s a fact. example ? the last of us.
“was the New game play footage, Pre-rendered as well?”
who knows, judging by their previous games it might be. also character models are downgraded in cut scenes, real time or pre rendered.
I fully agree with that, tell that to those idiots
http://i.imgur.com/vMuTzix.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fCAkZMN.png
Nothing can Beat the Cryengine and what Crytek can achieve in graphics.
More like you cant produce pc beating graphics on a console no matter who you are.
I beg to differ as Epic Games just released Unreal Engine 4.6 which is the pinnacle state of art in game engines. Also on this site John has posted many articles on visual artists moving from CryEngine to Unreal Engine 4 purley because they can get better visual fidelity.
Yeh Unreal engine has always been sweet no matter what itteration. Cryengine also tops.
Who cares about an engine that has ye to be used in a game?
Cryengine is being used in game right now.
Go shill for a contard company more, peasant.
lmao. Go back to IGN or whatever t-ard sites you came from.
That is your reply? IGN is crap, just like you, fanboy. I mean to by such a fanboy for an engine that has yet to be used is…. pathetic on a whole new level of pathetic.
Go call a helpline for someone who gives a crap what you think.
What’s so special about that shot seriously? I’d call it nice but that’s about it.
Not surprised the E3 reveal was bullshot.
Anyway meh peasant boxes..
He’s a disgusting Sony shill. Don’t worry, he’ll get his.
ahhaahh he banned you?
Sort of. He banned the IP address but not the account so I can still get on, I just can’t do it from that one place. That’s not why I think he’s disgusting though. It’s obvious he’s a MAJOR Sony fanboy and the way he treats people who thinks otherwise on his site is absolutely terrible. He’s the most corrupt journalist I’ve ever seen in my life. I don’t worry too much about it though. People like him always get theirs in the end.
yeah i have seen him going in arguments all the time. So much for game journalism.
Neogaf has banned dualshockers they consider it a horrible source of unreliable news and have a personal feud with nelva.
I don’t understand why they haven’t banned him. There was someone who was having technical issues with AC:Unity so he was wondering if they had been fixed and he got real nasty with them as well as everybody else in that thread. He derailed the entire thread and he still didn’t get banned. I’ve seen people get banned for less.
link
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=942109
Actually, just search for “has ac unity been fixed neogaf” on Google. It’s the first link and Giuseppe makes the first comment. The link I sent you was automatically flagged for some reason.
links have to be approved it should pop up soon.
Exactly. Stinks you got banned though. I got banned a while back for making a comment about not liking a game haha. But I have an alternate 😉
yeah you say you got tired of god of war? YOU OPINION IS AGAINST THE CESSPOOL OF SONY FANBOYS, BANNED.
Damn the shilling is unbelievable there are no opinions to be had there WHAT DRIVECLUB IS A MESS? NO DRIVECLUB IS PERFECT LIKE ALL SONY EXLUSIVES BAN!!!!
Me too. I have several actually 🙂
Haha the same group from DS is here too!
The Dualshockers damage control brigade show up so often that they are likely organized by Sony.
sure, because point out the minor differences, dont point out the game has destructible environments, that his clothes interact with water, that all the foliage is moving ni real time, that his hair also moves in real time. just because god rays and a few drops of water arent included doesnt mean its a downgrade, as for the e3 reveal , noone said it was gameplay, it was only said to be running in real time. sad that pc ppl will just look at screenshots while ps gamers will play this eventual masterpiece.
god rays and a few drops of water ? you need glasses. this is nowhere near to what they showed on the “gameplay” trailer
by the way, at the end he said: “Uncharted 4 is undoubtedly the most impressive – visually – console game we’ve seen to date”
fanboy detected ?
i agree thats its not whats shown in the trailer, but noone said the trailer was gameplay, today was gameplay and i blv it stood up well
Funny how that trailer ran at 60fps then and funny how Naughty Dog said before that they were targeting 60fps. Trailers don’t run at 60fps, just so happened that one does so it was put out as actual gameplay.
god rays and a few drops ? you need glasses. this is nowhere near to what they showed on the “gamepla” trailer. it was a GAMEPLAY – TRAILER, they even said that it would look even better
By the way, at the end he said: ” Uncharted 4 is undoubtedly the most impressive – visually – console game we’ve seen to date” so i dont know why you sound mad.
its because its the most impressive – visually – game I’ve seen to date.
There isnt a game in my memory that can beat those graphics, and games which are just running on 16 msaa and all fancy stuff on pc dont count as graphics that are amazing, its just side effects. and by that i mean that a game from 1990 will not look amazing no matter how much grunt you throw at it.
meh, looked pretty good, but am sure better games will appear soon. If this is what “next gen” is about then no point in investing on hardware, then again by upping the visuals on a multiplat you get better results since more games barelly manage to get high settings on those new consoles.
The order looks better, crysis 3 looks better, infact metro is on par, as another user said this looks like tomb raider more or less, id argue better.
Those rocks alone make the game look bad.
shadow of mordor, far cry, ac unity and soo many more have gfx similar to high preset on consoles.
order seems more corridor like, and still id think uc is better.
crysis 3 not really, you can say they were held back by ps3 ,360 but it still is lesser,
metro i really dont agree, i still dont understand why it has the capability to destroy gfx cards
then to be fair tr ripped indiana jones off, so its just part of the genre
Ironicly shadow of mordor has 2 settings on medium on ps4 i havent read up on unity however.
if uncharted 4 was open world you would have a point, also if this was running at 60 fps, but it didnt.
ACU:
environment quality on consoles pair with PC’s ultra.
texture quality on consoles lower than PC’s high which makes it medium and PC doesn’t have medium option for texture.
also lower res and fps
lol thats riddiculus, so much for 8gb vram.
ACU is insanely detailed though, I explored the other half of the city and it’s just so damn detailed. Locking frame-rate to 30fps really helps. I didn’t know you could switch time of day, afternoon and night just look gorgeous.
crappy performance and it’s problem aside, it’s a damn good looking game, specially on texture side on PC, no low or medium quality textures in the game, it eats Uncharted 4 for breakfast in terms of visuals on technical level and it’s an open world title.
30fps lock make the gameplayable on PC, using SSAO instead of HBAO+ will eliminate stuttering in open wolrd parts, using high quality environment eliminate low fps in cutscenes but hair models become s**t. i suggest you use MSI afterburner and lock it to 35fps for better response time, and yes 30 to 35fps make differences.
Looking at walls has more of a frame-rate drop than looking at masses of people and across the city LOL.
http://i.imgur.com/o8br0ip.jpg
Crysis 3 held back by PS3? only physics wise compared to Crysis 1. but Crysis 3 on Ultra look better than this
Crysis 3 on the PC was not held back by consoles, it was the first PC game to be DX11 only and had all the graphics tech we expected from CE3, unlike Crysis 2 which was a POS on launch.
“the game has destructible environments”
Does it? Scripted falling rocks dont count.
” his clothes interact with water,”
So did the first game.
“that all the foliage is moving ni real time,”
Tomb raider definitive edition crysis from 2007.
“at his hair also moves in real time.”
No idea where you saw that one
” as for the e3 reveal , noone said it was gameplay,”
No they claimed it looks amazing and the full game will look like this because it was real time and not pre rendered.
If this was ubisoft you will be trashing it.
“sad that pc ppl will just look at screenshots while ps gamers will play this eventual masterpiece.”
Well sony isnt gonna put it on pc, but the quality of the game is not questioned here nor anyone says its ugly, just not on par with E3.
I am a big uncharted fan and i NEVER thought the games looked amazing, killzone 3 is far superior. What i saw from this was not “next gen” it was ok it was good graphics, but could have been a crossplatform game. The gameplay they showed was borring, i am not gonna rush to buy this game.
When this comes out at the end of 2015 maybe 2016, ill get a ps4, if its good because so far it looks like more of the same stuff that the previous games brought.
1.)really? because you didnt see that piece of wood crumble under gunfire?
2.)it wasnt in the first game, it was introduced in the 2nd game.
3.)foliage moved in rt in uc2 also.
very few games till date do 2 & 3
4.)see the 1st few moments of the uc gameplay, his hair moves similar to unity than tomb raider but still does.
1.I dont know how to tell you this but destructable cover is nothing new or impressive.
2.No am pretty sure that when i fell into the water his clothes got wet.
3.then why you making a point on that one?
4.the cutscenes you mean? i doubt his hair will dance around during combat.
Its a good looking game, just not the uncanny valley HUR DUR next gen nonsense that the E3 trailer showed.
I am honestly dissapointed both from the graphics and gameplay shown. This is not next gen, or innovative, its yet another uncharted with better graphics.
Seems i got to wait until 2016 to see next gen games.
my point is that to combine all that in one game is a beyond impressive feat , and if you really have to compare the visuals between trailer and gameplay, comparing it to watchdogs downgrade is a true insult to uncharted
Actually uncharted has been downgrading for years now, go to google and type uncharted downgrade.
I dont think this is far from watchdogs, to quote neogaf “if this was ubisoft you will be trashing it”
to be fair ive seen those images, and i dont believe them, for eg chloe in train uc2 scene on ps3 just does not look anything like the image being circulated
The thing that consolers are confused about are the scripted events, the camera movements forced by the game, same every time, when they see that camera move around they get all giddy. Its scripted.
get in an open area and walk around, f’ around with the engine and we will see what it comprises of, not some hand picked sections where the camera moves around ON SCRIPT
LOL.
1. Crysis 1 rang from 2007.
3. Loads of games do it, even Risen 3 has foliage that moves as you go through it.
4. Hair movement is nothing new LOL.
lol destructable cover? check out CABAL from 1988 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOH_D_DE9IA
erm reference Crysis 1 from 2007 for most of that. if not better.
Obviously you have never played it and f’ed around with the physics, looking around. dont think they have been bettered yet.
Red Faction G has amazing physics but bland looking overall, BF Bad Company, BF4. Different but not as good as Crysis 1 physics by far
Funny, calling it a “masterpiece” before you’ve even play it, you’ve already made your mind up, so please don’t talk any more Sony drone.
“game has destructible environments”
where ? you mean that scripted scene in the last part ? lol, how you call it destructible environments ?
“that his clothes interact with water”
it came via DX9 in mid 2000s
“few drops of water”
that actually is more demanding that one ocean.
“that all the foliage is moving ni real time”
what a technical achievement (GTAV on last gen consoles? )
“while ps gamers will play this eventual masterpiece”
nope
“masterpiece”
says 11/10 IGN’s greg miller
LMAO.
cant blv im bothered to point out that no game does all that together and looks so good. go cry somewhere else, ot will be a masterpiece.
“no game does all that together”
you mean most of the games that released on PC in the past decade ?
“go cry somewhere else”
i’m not crying, actually i’m laughing at people like you who can’t even understand simplest things. and FYI this is a PC gaming site, your in it, if it bothers you, you can go shed your tears somewhere else.
“ot will be a masterpiece”
ot ? ok, if you say so :))
Destructible environments and real time foliage movement was all done in Crysis back in 2007. Clothes interacting with water and real time hair has been done for years.
Ketchup, console marketer
crysis does it in fps, with very poor gameplay and everything else, ps games are all in one , they always beat multi plat games which are the only ones pc ppl get to play
Still looks very beautiful, but i kinda already knew it wasnt going to look as good as what they showed at last E3 , because that wasn’t real game play.
Meanwhile back in 2013 on the PC.
http://i.imgur.com/coe0AEC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6leILAj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/npcxalH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2mFJ87I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UZpg1Bl.jpg
full screen those screens shots actually don’t look all that impressive anymore…. either
You need to do better than that.
No you need to stop being delusional those screenshots look bad and outdated now.
What are you looking at then, oh thats’ right, even PS4 games don’t use any tech from Crysis 3, no realtime GI, not SSDO, not tessellation, not caustics water effects, not fog shadows, no
Where are your up to date effects then?
Its not about the effects being up to date, Crysis 3 just looks old now, its the art and details. There are better looking games now. the foliage in the previous Crysis looks better than in 3. 3 even have a much shorter view distance. Also there are much better looking character models than what cry 3 have, in other games. Sure you can go post pics of the bald head guy, but its only a mesh with textures painted into the diffuse , no life to him at all.And the detail stops there. The clothes look like crap.
You’re a PC gamer, and think Crysis 3 is the best looking game… It looks great but its only a Console port, With high rez textures. which runs on an engine which was made to run on Last gen consoles…
Anyway the pics you linked look bad bro.. You could have choose some better ones.
It’s not a console port you moron, it’s a DX11 only game, the console doesn’t have any of the advanced effects much less DX11. So where is the realtime GI in console games then today, nowhere.
So again, please tell me, what console game has these effects in real time?
You know nothing at all…
http://www.crytek.com/cryengine/cryengine3/overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OHGjSm_RMo
“ts the art and details”
wtf am i reading?
“. It looks great but its only a Console port, ”
Console version runs nuder the lowest pc setting sooooo yeah.
if you think those shots dont look better than uc4 gameplay you are seriosuly blind.
I didn’t say that they didn’t look better I said they are no longer that impressive, I’ve seen better in Drive Club which is a racing game.
http://a.pomf.se/zjrzln.jpg
http://a.pomf.se/xnkuyf.jpg
http://a.pomf.se/deiyrx.jpg
http://a.pomf.se/onyxch.jpg
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Crysis really does look old to me… Another drive club image.
http://a.pomf.se/baobeg.jpg
Judge this once it goes gold. Until then it’s just wishful thinking. Why make an a*s of yourself arguing over pre-alpha footage. You haters aren’t doing anything but giving ND more ammo. I’m sure they are listening to all of this and once the game drops then what?
It’s quite often now that games look worse on release after they show the so called pre-alpha footage because it’s just target render and they can put whatever effects in and make it look perfect. I’ve seen the good quality version and it looks good but absolutely nothing special at all. Maybe you console users are too used to big screen making your games look like movies, especially running at 30fps.
yes yes its not like naughty dog has done this multiple times over.
“You haters aren’t doing anything but giving ND more ammo.
You call us haters for pointing the sole fact they have been doing this for years now? Even with TLOU they LIED the ai was crap compared to E3.
Seriously if this was ubisoft you will be trashing it.
Look naughty dog is not this amazing thing, the always downgrade and run into problems, but their games do well and no one calls them upon their bs.
…….
Yeah, a cutscene rendered in higher detail with one character showing, big f**king deal.
RIP free speech
check guissepe nelvas twitter he is attacking multiple sites and calling them trash for talking about the downgrade, he has taken so much power from the upvotes of his fellow sony shills that he thinks his world is the truth of god and everyone else is a liar.
HAHAHAh so much for dualshockers.
lol Shills
Are you sure their votes or botted numbers? LMAO
Wow. That was a big downgrade. I knew it wasn’t as pretty as the reveal, but hot damn!
$0N¥ = lies and overhype that underdelivers.
The game looks great , no doubt but definitely not as good as E3 trailer. Some of these Ponies are so delusional. Even on gamespot , some of the most diehard Sony followers are admitting that it isn’t as good as initial reveal.
its the same on every site, check nelvas acount he calls everyone stupid and trash for saying its downgraded
Yup another Sony hype train. If this game was on PC then we will see those cinematic pics being used for in game. Oh well Naughty Dogs loss.
its not like they can do anything about it, the are sony slaves, to be honest pc gamers would prefer a game with more “gameplay” than uncharted, it was fune the first time and the second time, then it got old. Innovate already
looks like a PS3 game.
It’s footage from the stream. Here are uncompressed images.
http://i.imgur.com/jqgNMMy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pQNwZ42.jpg
So does every Pc game that is compared to a PS3 game…All it means is that PS3 had amazing graphics, and its a lot harder to impress people now. Until you put a PS3 game beside a PS4 game… your mind can’t think of a difference..
lol, with all those hype still linear gameplay, 2D distance with nice artwork and pre rendered cutscenes. game doesn’t looked really special after all those hypes about it’s graphics and facial animations. we have better open world titles. and how uncharted 4 is on a PC gaming site ? and don’t forget john, all of the ACU’s cut scene are in real time, crysis is real time but cod and uncharted and ryse are pre rendered in engine cutscenes
I just don’t know why I commented in this article, I don’t give a sh*t about the game or PS4, LOL.
yeah me too, but it’s fun to have some hit, here & there :)) i played U2 and U3 with my friend’s insistency and i hated both, just finished them for my friend.
but anyway, if it runs 60fps on 1080p with those visuals and no more downgrade, it will be ok i guess. you can’t trust their footage at all, specially when they talk about A.I. we saw what happened to last of us and it’s A.I.
I can’t almost believe that’s is real.
sadly they managed to escape with all of their lies because of console wars.
Wow yeah that’s messed up, well hopefully U4 will look better by default considering the worst of the PS4 will be better than the best of the PS3.
it will be ok i guess
That’s like the difference between ultra and low on PC…. Ok ok, so Ultra and Medium.
jesus people are still posting this picture? most of the cut scenes were prerendered videos in uncharted there was no downgrade just a lighting change.
lol. lighting change/time of day is the new excuse for downgrade. as i said before i don’t care about downgrades if the final product runs good and have nice visuals both on PC and Consoles. but that doesn’t mean i don’t metion them. and yes it was downgrade, on anything not just lighting, clear as a day.
It’s a prerendered cutscene.
doesn’t matter, it’s still false advertising and when it affect game engine if affect game itself too
Who’s to say the prerendered cutscenes are done in engine?
You got source on the original picture because I can get some direct screen grabs from my hacked ps3 for a true comparison instead of a cropped zoomed in and compressed as hell capture forme nowhere.
all of the pre rendered cutscenes in games are in engine (also pre rendered cutscene doesn’t mean CGI). engine is capable of doing those but not the hardware, So ? they record those cutscenes on a more powerful machine or whatever then they capture it and put it as a video in the game files.
what source for picture ? play it reveal gameplay trailer and at the same time play the god damn game and see the difference in real time, from gameplay itself, to real time cutscenes, to pre rendered cut scenes. they all changed
Shame the in game models look better then cutscenes then.
they clearly are not. eww, put that thing aways
Funny how console users know nothing about graphics, yet don’t care about graphics , yet claim screens look good without knowing what they’re looking at.
You don’t know what is realtime
You don’t know what is baked and realtime
You don’t know what type of lighting is used
What physics and if the breakage is realtime or pre-computed
What quality Ambient occlusion
What shadow resolution
You think gamma is a graphics enhancement
You think colourful is better looking
You think bloom is HDR
You don’t know what downsampling is
You don’t know what type of Anti-aliasng is being used.
You don’t know what Anti-alasing is.
You don’t know what Anisotropic filtering is being used.
What shader AA is.
What MSAA is.
If tessellation is being used
What tessellation is
Where tessellation is being used.
muh graphics. reminds me of UberSoldier
it saddens me that sony fanboys thought this game was graphics king in 2011
I’m a pcgamer have been for over 2 decades. lol i was just pointing out that his original picture was complete crap and was tired of seeing it posted.
actually that was a real photo and that shows real marketing tricks
mmmm
Fair enough then.
SOOO that game was graphically imrpessive in 2011? hmm since bf3 run on low settings, it kinda makes sense that it would.
naughty dog on twitter
Well you come here telling so go get some proper answers. Scenes done in-engine can be enhanced like Ryse does and ACU does.
Crysis 3 does almost all of the cut-scene in-engine in realtime and they are identical to the game-game graphics because they can be. We know this because Crytek did a break down of what’s what and told us that it’s done to avoid bugs.
Ryse uses Supersampling, Crytek told us. ACU is so called realtime cut-scenes are not the same as in-game, they’re higher quality, they use proper quality reflections in the mirrors.
pictures speak for themselfs
http://i.imgur.com/vMuTzix.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fCAkZMN.png
So no it wasnt prerenderd and because they said it was in real time, sony fanboys thought this will look like that, well it doent and for everyone expecting the game to live up to its visuals in the full release.
http://i.imgur.com/LfOBnhz.jpg
naughty dog always downgrades
TLOU was shown with e3 with amazing ai, it never got that.
For the record crysis 3 and the order look far better than
this game. Finally this is aimed to be a 60 fps game so logically speaking it CANT be the best looking game on next gen.
It ran in their engine 🙂 in real time. They didn’t really lie. Also the down grade in the ps3 versions isn’t as drastic as you try to make it seem. Different light, a character remodel… that happens during development.
The new game looks exactly like the e3 version, just liike that screen shot you compared, it was a cut scene, Perhaps the PS3 isn’t running in real time. But The Ps4 version sure is.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Bwk0Y0tnD0U/VIZv1EbufjI/AAAAAAAAAOE/snFeUpbOwpU/w1744-h1028-no/hi%2Brez.png
it’s called “dualshockers” for a reason :)) it must praise sony, after all it’s a sony site
dude check nelvas twitter he is on full butthurt mode and approving his news on n4g by asking from his n4g “friends” pathetic.
nelvas who ?
the clown who runs dualshockers. guissepe nelva.
never heard of that clown. don’t get the credit, they are nobody
Relax boys, this “will” take the game of the year once again, and it will look unlike “anything” out on consoles and PC’s.
Let the dried out insecure personal computer gamers talk s**t about this showcase, its all they have, beside the down trickle of “some” third party “console” games.
Looks pretty darn good for an all american rootin’ tootin’ manly lovable i’ve-been-wearing-this-shirt-since-i-saw-Commando ho-hum chuckling not-this-again 5-o-clock-shadow-donning aww shucks sociopath. All boxes checked. Stir in dialog, simmer. Serve. Chu-ching!!! $$$$$$$.
DualShockers is a dumb paupersite. Banned from GAF for a reason, they’re fanboy clickbait crap.
dude check nelvas twitter he is trashing any site posting this and calling them idiots.
Also he asks from his n4g “friends” to approve his clickbaiting articles.
Man that guy is dense.
Calm the F*CK down!
Do be a blind pc fanboy, this looks frikking awesome on every level!
Just download the uncompressed full RGB version and you all will be blown away, I can safely say that this looks way way better then anything we have seen before, yes it means a Crysis 3 killer 😉
Dont be a stupid fanboy this just crusch everything before and the gameplay is as it seems allway top notch. No one comes close to Naughty Dog and thats a fact!
Cant wait to get a PS4 and play a game that will never ever come to our loved Pc’s!
Take that stoopid fanboys 😉
I watched the uncompressed video, it looks HD tomb raider it doesnt look as good as the order or crysis but thats besides the point, the point is that this has happened AGAIN, naughty dog downgraded from the reveal. IT doesnt look as good as e3.
Does that mean its abad game or ugly? NOPE but the hype and lies are now disporvn, it is what a it is a great looking uncharted game, not “next gen” uber duper photorealism ps4 dominance they claimed it to be.
Yeah thats probably right mate, it’s pretty impressive with that low end hardware tho.
But I should be realistic and not so up my ar*e LOL!
It is NOT a Crysis 3 killer, in my dreams I know but thats just that!
I mean I love those games but of course it would be way better if they put some power under the hood, to bad the PS4 is weak I know :/
But as said they seems to squeese some good looking games out of it, atleast thats something!
we merely laughing at the fanboys who thought this game will look like that E3 teaser. it doesnt lok as good as that, you cant provide amazing graphics on weak hardare no matter who you are.
wow at this early stage it just goes to show how this will be the best game ever and it has totally blown all the others out of the water, way to go ND
what on earth are you talking about?
are you for real or are you just trolling
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
I bet your fiendly sony damage controlling gimp called nelva will
rage on his twitter again about how digital foundry is a trash site that
doesnt have a clue about graphics either.
Just admit that you got a serious mental illiness and get help.
your an idiot buddy, stop trolling me if your that upset for not getting the right console dont bother me with your trash I’m not interested in your crap
Dude the idiot here is YOU.
This is a pc gaming site. IDIOT, its not about getting the right console, both consoles are weak, all we are telling you is that YOU the freaking idiotic fanboys were DESTROYED by truth. The game doesnt look like that.
Thats all, the game couldnt look like that becuase ps4 is weak. So stop sucking sony Dck and believing in their lies and just admit the FACT that uncharted 4 was downgraded and move on with your life.
IDIOT.
lol what a complete tosser your are, your so far up you’re own a**e that s**t keeps spewing out your mouth, your an uneducated re**rd that has no idea about anything, you talk about pathetic 286 laptop and think thats a gaming rig, mine s**ts all over your piece of crap you c all a PC, laptops don’t count as a gaming PC idiot, when you have a rig like mine then and only then can you call yourself a gamer, now go back to your iphone
The Ryse characters look better, there’s more detail in the faces, the lighting is also better on Ryse as well.
This really surprises me, Naughty Dog are actually behind the curve!!! This didn’t happen last gen, looks like Naughty Dog are going to be playing catch during this gen.
Next up VS. vs. VS, which one will be the better versus?
Sony fanboys versus reality
Oh wait it’s already happening. Reality is currently b**chslapping you.
Honestly that game looked subpar for 2013, but thats sony fanboys, any sony exlusive looks amazing, no logic, no research just false beliefs to stay relevant in their sony praising cult.
Surely that’s not the PS4 version.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
Yeah because it’s their shinning exclusive bring P*ssed on
apparnetly now digital foundry has a special relation with ms.
LOL, Yeah and 750 Ti beating both consoles, they have a special relationship with the PC. :p
do you got the lastest version of sony lies i need it
Just this one. Don’t worry. PSN DDOS will be added soon enough.
http://i.imgur.com/zzP3bwu.jpg
thas old, where is the uncharted downgrade?
Seriously though the list of lies is getting so large that doesnt fit on one page.
Yet the cultist still believe sony. I dont get how anyone cant fall for duashills after all those “hur dur sony insider news” when even the official sony statememnts are lies.
Didnt they say that sony will anounced 2 new AAA games in december?
Well where are they?
The Uncharted downgrade has it’s own special image below.
But then it’s amusing. Tidux says AAA games. Nothing appears. Dualshillers will still say “Noted insider”. Yeah. Noted for being wrong all the time. If Phil Spencer stopped tweeting the site would be out of business within days.
http://i.imgur.com/Wn5a3xr.jpg
Sony fanboys versus reality
Oh wait it’s already happening. Reality is currently winning.
Yeah you clearly conduct yourself like someone who know what day it is! HaHaHa
What the reality that all the images you posted look exactly the same? What was your aim with those screen shots?
Photo mode applies 4xMSAA, the game doesn’t use MSAA.
to them it’s “youtube compression” or “cutscene vs gameplay” or “i can not see the difference” . they don’t know how to defend anymore, the make anything up just to defend a company and it’s products.
Yeah, can’t see the difference but come here looking for a difference but but I can’t see it and don’t care about graphics. :p
I see a review of the game and they said SMAAx2 looks like supersampling LOL.
:))
^_^
dude digital foundry has spoken, i bet nelva will call it a trash site too that doesnt understand how graphics work. SO much for game journalism
Saw that. Sony shills are in tatters because they loved DF so much when it was dumping on Xbone and now it dumps on PS4 they hate it.
feels good man, i really hope that idiot nelva loses his job, next time a shill pops up, ill just show them nelvas tweets bashing on other sites and calling them trash for not shilling for sony and post a link of digital foundry.
Who is this Nelva person, what did I miss? ):
The idiot who runs dualshockers….to the ground.
Tea vs coffee
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game journalism
http://i.imgur.com/X7BBJ5p.jpg
exposed
Uncharted 1-3 are very good games, but with all respect uncharted 4 looks extremely disappointing to me. To be fair, character faces still looks great, even after downgrade, but jungle looks horrible, its SQUARE and flat. Hell even jungle from crysis 1 on ps3 looks better !!! Here’s some screenshot from 1.6GB trailer, if I would see these screenshots without knowing it’s ps4 game, I would belive it’s another uncharted on ps3.
http://www.stooorage.com/show/2423/12976042_uncharted4_demo_psx_1417867786-mp4_snapshot_06-06_-2014-12-07_12-20-11.jpg
http://img1.stooorage.com/images/2423/12976043_uncharted4_demo_psx_1417867786-mp4_snapshot_10-14_-2014-12-07_12-21-13.jpg
http://img1.stooorage.com/images/2421/12971407_4.jpg
http://img1.stooorage.com/images/2421/12971409_3.jpg
http://img1.stooorage.com/images/2421/12971410_2.jpg
The enviroments look like they came out of tomb raider MEH.
Throw more polygons at it and high res textures and call it a next-gen console game.
I never believed the gameplay was going to look like the e3 teaser let alone think that the e3 was gameplay footage. It looks different and its pretty obvious. Still looks good but it is not the same.
The 1080x YouTube video looked like 720p upscaled. No sure if that’s due to YT compression, though. It looked blurry.
I have near-perfect vision, so I see a HUGE difference between 720x and 1080x. When watching a 720x picture it’s what I imagine the world looks like to people who need glasses.
Anyway, the graphics look pretty darn good in the gameplay trailer, but there’s no much going on. Just some rocks and plants. I wonder how this game will render more complex scenes.
This isn’t a free speech issue – my only problem is with him calling DSOG a trash site. He didn’t even read the article, apparently.
DSOG clearly compared the E3 and gameplay demo, then compared the rendering quality to other games.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with anything DSOG put in their article.
just dso? he calling other sites reporting it as well, check his twitter also saying to his “friends” at n4g to approve his sony news, you know the rumor bs that neogaf baned him for.
I’d rather not put any energy into him. He’s on my not-worth-it list.
I get banned from websites all the time. I don’t let it get to me, I just don’t visit that site ever again and they lose one more voice from the community. If they want to create an environment that’s nothing more than an echo chamber to reinforce their opinions then so be it, but that bothers me.
Frankly, when large groups of people share the same opinion on something then my mind sends me all kinds of warnings. I can think of other groups that all shared the same opinion. Like Nazis.
Pretty much like SJWs you will have better arguments on 4chan than the CESSPOOL that “game journalism” has become today.
Hey there clown, how is it that the pc master race is winning again? SO much for consoles.
Lets be honest Ryse destroys all in visuals. You’d be a blind fan boy to claim other wise. I can’t wait for Quantum Break to come out, only game that might be able to dethrone Ryse’s visuals.
YOU MAD? YOU MAD peasant? deal with it.
This clown is joking, right? When you look at the list of best selling games of all time, it’s console and handheld dominated. I would say nice try, but unfortunately for you, you couldn’t even muster that.
Your tiars are delicious, how does it feel getting exposed for the 100th time cony corporate slave?
Dude, this is a simple fact: PC = Most Successful gaming platform in history with more players than any other platform. It’s also valued at twice that of the entire console market put together…
Deal With It…..
The E3 uncharted reveal was CLEARLY a cutscene ffs so why compare the 2? You’d think the ‘experts’ in this place would know that!!
Because sony fanboys swore day and night that the game will look as good as that when we told them it wont.
They said this game will looo better than everything, well it doesnt its a good looking game and thats that.
also digital foudnry has done it and agrees it doesnt look as goo.
ahahah you are a magnificent idiot type uncharted downgrade in google images, naughty dog has been doing this for many years.
it will NEVER look as good as E3, this game is not your next gen messiah, its not your next gen best looking game ever.
Deal with it and move on.
Youtube codec crushes details, but you’ll find out sooner then later.
Lmfao. This game will flop in terms of graphics. My Sega graphics are better than this.
Congratulations in knowingly creating a flame war. I guess it gets the clicks tho.
More like reporting the truth when other websites cover it up.
Stay mad, marketer
Can’t be mad when it doesn’t affect me in any way. I’m merely pointing out a fact.
Stay immature. I know you will tho sweety.
I didnt know being a c3nt like you and a stealth troll is maturity.
How is calling someone a “c3nt” mature on your part. Get a life.
says the guy who creates a flame war here.
This is footage from the stream which is severely washed out and downgraded. Download the full uncompressed footage cause I can assure you that is not how it looks.
Uncompressed looks as bad, kiddo.
It’s downgraded.
Wait till my images are approved so you can see how it really looks. 🙁
Don’t bother. They’ll never accept the truth.
Night time versus day time. Clever comparison guys, nice job 10/10.
Is like comparing Watch Dogs graphics at sunset or sunrise versus full daytime lighting…is like a totally different game.
Sorry but this thing about “PC vs Console” is getting silly…just read your comments, your keyboard “fights”…Or you are all a bunch of silly kids trying to justify your choice at the time of buying your gaming device, or not sure what to think…
If you are a truly gamer you would like any game no matter where that game is and you’ll recognize if that game is good looking or good because of its GAMEPLAY. I see too much “graphics here and there” but what about minor details as how the world reacts with a character, the physics, the movement and animations, the overall detail and composition, etc…I see people talking about a texture detail, a shadow or anti-aliasing…laughable really.
Watch Dogs for me was a great game after the clear graphical downgrade, its gameplay was clean and smooth, animations were great and the story really cool. Missions could be longer or more detailed but the gameplay was cool enough to enjoy those bits of action. Then there is the secondary missions that gave me plenty of hours of fun, car physics were good as well, and city details and models were really good too. What more can we ask for? A second game with the missing details for sure. Yet people complained about dynamic shadows or LOD distance, or silly god rays…that’s what real “gamers” really want?…Okay…
I’ve been gaming since 1990 and what I’m seeing now makes me sick. I always play on consoles with Atari and on PC with Spectrum…it is well known that the market changed, we live in a world where they want our money now (“pre-order this”, “get this now or die” kind of thing) and they give us a lot of unfinished products or unoptimized not like in the old days…but when a good game comes out people get like crazy about it…hype starts, they want the world in that game, and then there is disappointment and everyone goes mad. And if that game is not in the platform of their choice, they fight about it…Makes any sense? Not much.
I think Uncharted (the only series I never bought on Play Station 3 but just because I played other type of games) is a great game, and apart from the rest here, the game looks incredible for a not so powerful console (which this time I’m still thinking if getting it or not) and the overall details are great, mechanics and gameplay are really cool, and that’s what matters after all.
Tomb Raider also received some hate because “it wasn’t like the old ones”….but for me the change was really good and the game incredible. Lara felt more alive than ever, you care for her, you enjoyed the animations and how she evolved through the story (quite fast though), the environment were great, graphically speaking really impressive and the minor details spot on.
I think that the industry is always in a rush, they want our money quite fast not caring for the final product…but the fanatics are also the problem in the industry…those who pre-order without thinking what they really are going to get…the silly hype over things before they come out, those who buy everything because of the name of the product, etc.
Check digital foundry, the game doesnt look as good as e3 PERIOD is that bad thing? No but the sony fanboys will attack you till death.
Oh please, you’re the one calling people names saying people need to “stop sucking sony’s dck.” Real innocent of you.
Lara from 2013 said,”what’s the big deal?”
http://i.imgur.com/xU4lCBO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1uB5Rh7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XHK3fLm.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/Tm3OFfN.jpg
It looks as good as most AAA games released nowadays, but it’s still not impressive as Ryse or Crysis 3 maxed out. Consoles doesn’t have the power to render all modern high quality effects at the same time like PC does. It’s sad that a talented studio like Naughty Dog is limited by the power of PS4…
Ryse isn’t the ground breaking game everyone claims it to be. It has horrible gameplay and bad draw distances. I also felt that it’s lighting was unrealistic. The characters’ faces always seemed to be highlighted. Which is probably why you think the graphics are better. If you look at the Nathan Drake character model in direct lighting, you will see that it has retained all of the details in the initial reveal. There’s a video on youtube that you can watch that will confirm this. It’s called “PlayStation Experience | Modeling Nathan Drake: Bringing an Iconic Character to PS4 Panel.” Watch that and tell me if you still think Ryse looks better. As for Crysis 3, it may have looked good, but Naughty Dog aims for subtleness, which Crytek does not. I’d rather take subtle nuance over high poly-counts any day. Yes, Naughty Dog would be able to make mind-blowing graphic leaps and bounds on a PC. The point is not that it looks better than a PC game, but it looks as GOOD as a PC. And sometimes it’ll probably look even better. I mean compare the trailer (which was a small level that was easy for the PlayStation 4 to render compared to the large draw distances that the gameplay had) to anything that the PC has. There is no comparison. It blows it out of the water. Crysis 3 takes a powerful PC to play on max settings. PS4 playing a game with graphics that well with aged tech. I think that is very impressive.
“Ryse isn’t the ground breaking game everyone claims”
Nor is TLOU or uncharted, uncharted is a generic cover based shooter.
” it has horrible gameplay and bad draw distances.”
So does uncharted.
” The characters’ faces always seemed to be highlighted.”
So does uncharted, no wait uncharted uses pre rendered cutscenes didnt stop you idiots thinking that its the best looking game ever.
“t’s lighting was unrealistic.’
On the other hand tlou and uncharted such reallistic lighting…NOPE
” If you look at the Nathan Drake character model in direct lighting, you
will see that it has retained all of the details in the initial reveal.”
Are you mentally disabled? Everyone has said that the character model was downgraded and it is easilly seen.
” There’s a video on youtube that you can watch that will confirm this.”
By who? naughty dog? who insits that TLOU ai was not worse in the final release?
Pro tip dont use what the devs say as proof, that would mean watchdogs was not downgraded either since usbisoft says so.
You are a huge sony dck rider you know what? Stop being such a corporate slave.
“naughty Dog aims for subtleness”
There is nothing sublte about naughty dog games, but i would love to hear what you think sublte is.
” Naughty Dog would be able to make mind-blowing graphic leaps and bounds on a PC.”
Dude seriously pull that sony D from your butt and listen naughty dog doesnt even make he best looking games on playstation guirella does, naughty dog is the ICE team they are in charge of the graphics api for playstation, they are not “gods” or anything they just have early acess on the graphics api so they know it better.
“The point is not that it looks better than a PC game, but it looks as GOOD as a PC”
Well its called next gen, if anything it should be better than pc, but then again consoles are weak, i still havent seen the next gen from these consoles, just better looking games that the multiplats we have been playing on pc all those years.
“I mean compare the trailer (which was a small level that was easy for
the PlayStation 4 to render compared to the large draw distances that
the gameplay had) to anything that the PC has. There is no comparison.
It blows it out of the water.”
What trailer? the trailer wanst even a freaking level it was a background with a character model as for the gamepaly, what draw distances? Tomb raider has draw distance because there is an actual level, all uncharted games had these years are a background which you can never go there.
if you want to see draw distances on pc there is arma, so as you said
“here is no comparison. It blows it out of the water.”
and by that i mean pc blows consoles out of the water.
” Crysis 3 takes a powerful PC to play on max settings. PS4 playing a
game with graphics that well with aged tech. I think that is very
impressive.”
Not even one game is maxed on consoles and this game doesnt look as good as crysis 3.
You be better off making comparisons on multiplatform games which ironicly every game runs better on a budget pc than on ps4 and has better graphics.
So what exactly is impressive again that a NEXT GEN ps4 EXLUSIVE has pretty good graphics?
Well no freaking sht.
Clearly you’re too stupid to understand what I’m trying to say. Naughty Dog is probably the most talented studio in the entire gaming industry. If you don’t believe me, then why is that both “Uncharted 2: Among Thieves” and “The Last of Us” were the universal game of the year upon their releasing––even if there were compromises? Each one received over 200 GOTY awards. These are facts. Name another game with that many GOTY awards. Clearly they’re doing something right to earn such accolades.
And yes, I did mean cross generation and platform PC games. Because most games today are made for consoles, and then optimized for PC’s afterwards. That leaves a lot to be desired when you have a powerful PC, and I understand this.
More importantly, this game does have impressive graphics––there’s nothing that you can say that will change this. Consoles are always the driving force of increasing graphical fidelity. Better graphics on consoles means better graphics on cross gen games.
Only games that are made and optimized for PC first, and then for consoles second, will truly utilize what powerful PCs are capable of. “Crysis 3” takes a powerful PC to max it out. This game is on a console, and it still looks better in some places. Plus it has a high amount of facial animations, all of which add to the overall feel of the game. That is impressive. Animations are one of the things that makes a game convincing. Also, this is a linear game. That means its easier to achieve a higher amount of fidelity.
I’m not saying that Ryse didn’t look good. I own it, I’ve played it, and I was disappointed with it. I didn’t like the lighting, and although it did a good job to highlight the characters features, it just didn’t look that realistic to me. Overall, the game just felt like a big piece of eye candy. But its not the only one out there. “Infamous: Second Son” and “Killzone: Shadow Fall” are both just like this.
Also, I wasn’t talking about the lighting in “The Last of Us.” I wasn’t talking about the lighting in the previous installations of “Uncharted.” I was talking about the lighting in THIS “Uncharted.” I can see that, in this game at least, they are trying to make the lighting organic.
And it’s important that consoles start getting increasingly good graphics because that means that they will raise the bar for multiple platform games. Did you seriously ever think that a console would look as good as this game? I sure as heck didn’t. When a game looks good, you shouldn’t deny it because you feel the PC is superior. Everyone knows that a powerful PC can play games with impressive visuals. Now that consoles are catching up, you’re going to say it looks terrible? I just don’t understand you guys. I love what PC’s can do, and I’ve noticed what Xbox One can do, but this is the first game that I’ve seen since this “new generation” of gaming started that has wowed me. How the hell does that make me less of a gamer?
Most games, whether they’re played on a high-end PC or not, have plastic characters. They don’t move like they should. They look too stiff. That’s not the case in this game. They look closer to organic than most, if not all, games. Faces move like actual faces. That’s what I call subtly. That’s what I call nuance. Naughty Dog is all about the things that don’t really matter. Because look at all the things in our lives that don’t really matter. They’re still a part of it. They add to the overall feel of it. So why not, when you’re trying to imitate reality, add small details like Nathan Drake’s chest hair moving?
You completely missed my point. And you insulted me. How the hell do you consider yourself superior to me when you’ve never met me, never spoken to me? How can you judge me, judge who I am, how I perceive things, when you’ve behaved so rudely and acted so absurdly. From what you’ve written, you’re a pretentious man (perhaps a women, though I doubt it) that thinks himself higher than anyone simply because they own a PC. Anyone can spend thousands of dollars on a PC, but most people don’t want to shell out a lot of money for gaming when they can buy a cheap console that is straightforward to use. My point, just because you felt the need to spend thousands of dollars on a PC, doesn’t give you the right to suddenly talk down to people who own consoles. Especially when you don’t know whether or not that person also owns a PC.
You missed all of my points. First of all, “Uncharted 4” has more than, “pretty good graphics.” You’re letting your bias show. This game looks a lot better than Crysis 3. Look at the character models. Are you kidding yourself? The Sam character model is a thousand times better than any of the “Crysis” characters. The models have a higher polygon count, better textures and shader-packs, and far better animation.
Even though “Crysis 3” looks good, and it takes a powerful PC to max it out, its age does show. The character’s look like impressive plastic figurines because they are too stiff to be lifelike.
Also, if “Uncharted” and “The Last of Us” are so generic and unoriginal, why did all of those games receive universal critical acclaim; and, furthermore, why did the second “Uncharted,” as well as “The Last of Us,” receive over two hundred Game of the Year awards? Huh… weird, it sounds like the general idea about these games is that they are impressive both story wise and gameplay wise.
The “Ryse” gameplay is horribly repetitive and overall boring. The game looks great, but that’s all they focused on. There’s practically no depth. The reason they were able to make all of the foliage look so great is because they develop the game with draw distances that are extremely small. Are you seriously going to compare “Uncharted 2 and 3” on the PS3 to “Ryse’s” draw distances? Because if you were comparing the draw distance to “Uncharted 4” they are far larger than “Ryse’s.” In “Ryse,” you are constantly running through dense forests in a linear path that is very small in comparison to “Uncharted 4’s,” so of course they can dedicate more of the system’s resources to the foliage.
Why don’t you get of your PC Master Race high horse and start to look at things objectively instead of subjectively? I wasn’t trying to say that “Uncharted 4” is going to be the best looking game of all time, I’m saying that it looks a lot better than “Ryse” does (on Xbox One, the PC version will, of course, be better). The character models are better; the best looking so far on any console, even over “Ryse’s.” Also you failed to mention that “Ryse” uses pre-rendered CGI for cutscenes, whereas “Uncharted 4” does not.
And why is it that you feel you needed to curse to make your point? I can think of a thousand better ways, and yet you couldn’t? That’s pathetically sad. Calling me an idiot makes no logical sense, as I have written a sound argument, and its really simple minded. Your troglodytic, narrow-minded, subjective, benighted state of mind is as useless and unimportant as the poor language that you hide behind. You can think whatever you want, make whatever opinion that you need to believe, but that’s all they’ll ever be: opinions. When you’re ready to make an actual argument, with facts, rather than opinions, come back and make a real argument. Because this was harrowingly vacuous, and really just a waste of time.
They’re not really all that limited, at least not as limited as the Xbox One. They can still do amazing things with it. Every person who has a PC always hates on consoles, when in reality they’re not that bad. In fact, it’s consoles that define a gaming generation. So saying that its a shame that Naughty Dog is “limited to the power of the PS4,” isn’t a fair assumption because of the increase of power from the PS3 to PS4. That’s why the graphical leap between Uncharted 3 to Uncharted 4 is so high. I’m sure they’re happy working on the PS4. And whatever they produce now, or in the future, is going to look awesome. It’s not always going to look as good as a game that utilizes the full power of current PC’s (which is harder to optimize than a console because PC’s very so much), but definitely puts their games on the list of great fidelity. And a lot of the time, they’re going to look better than cross platform (especially cross generation) games. Unless the game is optimized to use the full power of a high-end PC, I doubt they’re going to be able to surpass it. For example, Ryse, not on the Xbox One, but on PC looks better than Uncharted 4. But the new Assassin’s creed doesn’t. Does that make sense?
These compressed video capture vs direct screen grab comparisons are a waste of everyones time.
digital foundry is wrong too eh?
Haven’t said anyone is wrong here. I know digital foundry has been wrong before so if they are it’s hardly a surprise.
this is pre alpha..who cares?
naughty dog always downgraded so your relese wont look better. If this is really pre alpha that means the cutscene we saw in e3 was never a part of the game but a blatant lie.
So it’s downgraded and Gamepur doesn’t want to admit it
come on dude i bet even you know the trailer was in engine and that shot was specifically made for that short teaser but i hope you read that psx vs uncompressed data comparison their black was grey and it was clear that the psx ingame footage was whitewashed i did download that 3.81GB uncompressed video and yes its nothing like the e3 but you should see that uncompressed footage its way too good for a pre-alpha and better than unity 😛 i hope you don’t bash me for that 😛
See thats the thing the sony fanboys INSISTED that the E3 trailer was how the game would actually look, we know that was a cutscene with a background without a level and ai and the full game wont look like that.
We kept telling them.
Still looks like an early 2013 game at silky smooth 30FPS.
i tell you what’s the deal :)) lara’s hair are more beautiful and more advanced
And the tessellation and the godrays and the light shafts and the high quality shadows and the supersampling.. 🙂
and 60fps and bigger maps full of hidden objects and secrets
Can you put circles around the tessellation for me?
The tessellation is almost everywhere, branches, characters, ground, rocks, tress, stones on the floor, it makes the geometry more rounded.
to them it don’t have tessellation because console version missed it and defenitive edition doesn’t have one either, it’s only on PC
I can see why, there is a lot of tessellation being used in the PC version and it looks nice. 4xSSAA with tessellation on and TressFX is playable for me now, effectively 4K so at least we PC users have a choice.
yep it’s playable for me too, ofcourse without SSAA. without TressFX i get 60fps all the time, but who can play the game without it 😀 it’s 45fps to 60fps with TressFx on ultra.
Got to say, looks so good with 4xSSAA, I’m playing it through again. I’m feeling the PC Master Race. 😀
30fps lock or unlock ? of course it looks good, man Tomb Raider and Metro LL, both have best use of tessellation in any video game i saw. funny thins is next gen arrived but they can’t do tessellation, a 2011 or older technique
Unlocked, 30-40fps, had to put shadows to normal and shadow quality to high. Ultra shadow quality is just too demanding in some areas.
I know what it does you tool I said point it out. You can’t because you don’t actually know where its applied cause you can’t even tell in this game. You just assume its present because you know its turned on.
Well I’ve got the game so I can turn tessellation on, off and see the changes. The ground is bumpy with real geometry ,the tree branches are curved, see the branch on the bottom right, see how nice and curve it is and the shadows reflects that when you turn tessellation on.
Lara herself is tessellated, her arms, shoulders face and head are more curved using tessellation. Rock formations have curved edges rather than straight angles, rocky steps are curvy, stones on the ground are not flat like a texture, look at the stones behind Lara, they’re rounded. The tree in the second shot is smooth rather than angled sharp edges and the stone on the bottom left is smooth and rounded.
Your comparison pictures are wrong here’s a real one I took from uncompressed footage.
http://i.imgur.com/pNsthBG.jpg
Point is, there is nothing special about it
That’s straight BS. The lighting and texture of his shirt is better than Ryse’s. And Crysis 3’s graphics did not look this good. We’re gamers, not ret*rds.
It’s a cut scene and most of the time cut scenes are rendered better quality then the game.
It doesn’t matter. Ryse used pre-rendered cut scenes. Uncharted 4’s aren’t. The game looks great, and it’ll look greater still when it releases later this year but… it won’t compare to Ryse on the PC. On a powerful PC, there’s no way that Uncharted could look better. Despite that, I think that Uncharted 4 looks darn pretty for being on the PS4.
so 2007
Tomb Raider 2013 4xSSAA(4K effectively) playable for me now, TressFX on, tessellation on. 🙂
http://i.imgur.com/FtHgKaV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tJyo76x.jpg
So dumb
so butthurt
About what? It looks the same to me. BOth cutscenes in the new game play trailer and in e3. There was never game play before this reveal, so whats to be butt hurt about?
You coming here to defend cut scenes on a console game. You believe Sony and Naught Dog like some religious cult.
Your anti Sony people act like a Religious Cult. You guys go around like Jehovah witnesses On everything Sony related, Digging up the past and preaching that Sony is A Lie, As if any one cares, about your opinion.You go to the extremes to try to change peoples minds about Sony. How about Focus on your Xbox and how downgraded all that stuff is. Or how about wonder why PC has so much power but the games are only slightly better looking or the same as the console games… IF Xbox or PC is soo Good and have plenty to offer why the heck do you all Live in Sony Articles? Go to your Xbox god or sit on your imaginary PC master Race Chair, and Enjoy your PC.
Bye, go back to dualShockers and your cloud.
Here we are attacking innocent Christians again,1 John 4:15, New International Version, if anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.
Read the comment before mine, you idiot way to read the butt end of a covosation.
Keep your Anti-Christian comments to yourself
yeah why dont we focus on xbox which is something that people already know? Makes sense. Why disprove sonys lies and clear up the ignorance of console fanboys? Especially since pc gaming ignorance is thrown by consoel fanboys 24/7
clap clap clap
don’t fight it bro, let it go :))
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
The big deal is hype. UC4 shows nothing we havent seen before. And as Crytek said, it will be more and more difficult to impress people.
I’m a bit perplexed at this shitstorm. Yes, of course there’s been a downgrade but let’s take a step back and look at what really is the problem here.
Everyone acts like the game is ruined now or something when in fact it still looks phenomenal and also better visuals were never going to save Uncharted from having stagnated in terms of gameplay since part 2. There’s just climbing and cover shooting and the climbing is on rails, foolproof. The shooting can be made more difficult by turning up the setting, I presume.
But I digress. The real problem is not what they showed NOW, the real problem is that they showed a misleading tech demo earlier. They must have known that they wouldn’t hit that quality bar set on a tiny beach scene with some jungle next to it in Uncharted’s typical large levels. They must have known that people would complain when the actual game doesn’t look like a Pixar movie.
Misleading trailers are a problem. “Target renders” are a problem. False advertising to get preorders or hype are a problem. Not downgrades, but what comes before them. A game should never be shown in a shape the developers aren’t confident they can deliver.
Phenomnenal? no but its great looking game, i wish sony fanboys for once admited the downgrade
someone butthurt
No argument this is a good looking game but it doesnt reach e3, nor it ever will since they aim for 60 fps.
When will people understand that E3 Footage was a cutscene and PSX Footage was gameplay.
Tell that to the sony fanboys who argued the actual game will loko like that not to us.
I dont think it looks as good, but its close, and unlike uncharted it has large maps, the fanboys keep damage controling this but since they aim at 60 fps it is impossible to be the best looking thing ever.
interesting so uncharted 4 looks nice, never expected that
also people should learn the difference
real time in engine cutscene (using higher quality 3d models, than found in gameplay sequences)
in game gameplay
full motion video (FMV)
not surprised, this wouldnt be the first time naughty dog has downgraded their game due to some limitations of the hardware, the e3 build may have been real but the rendering was done with just one character and a corridor with weeds, nothing else, in the real gameplay the game has to render more people, animate more things, etc
shh dont remind them ot the past they covered up and forgot about.
The graphics look pretty damn near the initial reveal. All the things that were missing were mainly shaders and lighting tweaks. Those are probably the final touches. As for the hair… Well, “The Last of Us” used similar hair techniques, but, I think that the final product will look more refined, like the reveal. As for Nate’s character model, it does seem to be downgraded; however, because of how detailed his brother, Sam, was, I expect that the quality will be increased. Let’s not forget that this is an unpolished demo being compared against a polished cinematic trailer. The map in the trailer was probably perfect in every way, but it was probably that way because it was so small and therefore easier to complete. How about we comment about the graphical fidelity when the game is actually released?!
digital foundry dissagrees
You know what people say is the greatest thing about opinions? It’s that everyone has one.
and some opinions are more important than others, they used to be called facts but ow they were buried by corporate slavery damage controling and lies.
Facts are statements that were proven true. Not opinions. If the developers haves stated that there’s no downgrade, then that is a fact. Not an opinion. I’ve posted this picture two other times, but if you look at it, then you’ll see that the character model is the same.
it’s been downgraded already. The trailer was running at 60fps, this demo of “gameplay footage” is 1080p/30fps.
“Although we are still in the pre-alpha stage of development, everything you see in the video is in-game and in real-time running at 1080p and a stable 30hz.”
So no, they will not add more detail especially if they’re aiming for 60fps, the detail will be cut back from this demo.
You don’t know that. They might have a different character models that switch out when there’s more resources to be used. We don’t know because we are not the ones who are developing the game.
we got a blind guy over here.
Here’s a screenshot from Game Informer. As you can see, not downgraded.
No tessellation, no Global illumination, not godrays, no sun shafts, low polygon enemies with poor LOD, foliage fade in right near his leg, no shadow casting, minimum shadows on under foliage, no fog and lacking atmospheric effects, lack of SSAO., flat lighting, no water caustics, no parallax occusion mapping, no local real-time reflections.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for
Am
sure sony fanboys like nelva will call digital foundry a trash site
that doesnt understand anything about graphics and yet makes graphical
analysis isntead of admiting they got a serious fanboy problem and they
shouldnt pretend to do game hournalism
They do make mistakes, pretty regularly… and they have a “special” relationship with MS, as they have a contract to do video capture for their trailers.
What difference does it make? Well they are very forgiving then “analysing” an XB1 game, they’ll forego significant frame rate drops, resolution differences, etc. and the same game on PS4, despite having mroe details/higher resolution and running better will barely get recognition.
Is that in every comparison they make they say that the 750 ti beats both consoles?
Not true. They’ve always seemed pretty fair to me.
Digital foundry is a trash site, They have a frame rate counter, and believe that makes them Professionals, in VFX..
Haha so much butthurt from you.
No, Digital Foundry isn’t GOD, but they do know a lot about the graphics tech behind video games. A hell of a lot more than you and the other Sony fanboys in this article, that much is clear.
Thing is i’m not a fanboy, i’m just stating my opinion about Digital Foundry.
sure thing, who is better?
If you think they look exactly alike then you shouldn’t be commenting on graphics, E3 was running at a fake 60 while the in-game is running at 30fps
What does the visuals have to do with the frame rate? 1fps to 200 fps, won’t change the way 3d models / assets look. You shouldn’t talk after what you posted…
Why coming here asking when you don’t care or understand? It has a lot for do with it, lower the frame-rate more the detail, higher the frame-rate less detail, that’s how consoles work, If they can’t hit their target frame-rate then the game will end up looking worse and downgraded.
I see what you’re trying to say, but thats not the case dude, they way you said it before, You pretty much stated if I put my PC game on max settings and run it at 60 fps, the quality will drop if I cap it to 30fps. No graphics stays the same.
Now you’re trying to act as if you meant console , because you’re stupid.
http://i.minus.com/iKuvI6jaWm9cy.gif
Using Youtube videos as a basis for analysing a game’s image quality should be punishable by a life time internet ban.
Now for the amazing light shafts, I don’t know the last time you went outside, but for me it was pretty recently, and I don’t see them just pop up out of thin air everywhere, this is why they were considered “special”, you need proper atmospheric conditions, sun direction and all, just like natural rainbows.
As for the hair difference, you should note that the image on the left side (the reveal) his air is in the dark, add a bit of compression to this and bam, they look good neough to pass as regular hair! amazing!
Now what’s really cool about Drake’s hair is when he goes in the waterfall during the battle, they get wet and they seem heavier! pretty neat effect! I don’t recall ever seeing this anywhere…
Oh and the “missing” self shadows… just look at the gamersyde video, it’s not very compressed, again ask yourself, what kind of light does the entire scene has? should Drake’s shadows be very high contrast? because everywhere else in the video, where he is in the sun there is self shadows (it’s not considered an advanced rendering trick anymore).
I am not saying this game does every single thing better than any other game, but it seems to do have many new tricks in its sleeve (look at the quantity of contextual animations, it looks so natual it all feels like some giant cut scene!).
and the faces or Drake and his brother when in close up! ouch! .. I never liked the style of Crysis 3’s characters, they look plasticky… AC:U as far as human models go, like most Ubi games, they look uncanny :-/ I like the Ryse and CoD models, at least for the main characters, again the Ryse pic you show reveal a problem with the lighting in the game, it’s all faked, I mean, how would he look so well lit when the sky is over cast like that? it makes no sense… but it shows the model!
Sun shafts and god rays are a real life phenomenon seen by the human eye, unlike lens flares which are a camera lens effect
Yes and the don’t just show up in a cave or through leaves because you feel like it… or by example if I look up right now, they’re not there… because it’s overcast!
People doing such analysis should do basic research, not just on the tech, but since they want to comment on how something was apparently removed, they should try to know if it belong there in the first place… in a part of the article the “journalist” claim that Drake has no self shadow, while if you fast forward in the same video, when he passes in an area where self shadows would be more apparent… boom self shadows are visible!
It’s nothing new that graphics features get removed, the PS4 version of Tomb Raider 2013, Metro LL redux, FC4 all have graphics features removed, unlike the PC version, then claim it’s some kind of ultra settings when it’s not
Volumetric fog is not in the PS4 version of both those games because it simple can’t handle it for the target frame-rate.
This is not the point, the point is, the evidence presented here is not what the article make it out to be… it’s not as if light shafts, sub surface scatering, indirect lights, etc. were not things ND did in their PS3 games.
And yes, all these effects are there (most likely, honestly in the new video there is no place where I would imagine light shafts).
You’re just making things up as you go along.
No. Actually he’s not. I also did not see any place where there should be a light shaft or god ray. Lighting can be viewed simultaneously as subjective and objective. There are mechanics to how light works––the way it reflects, travels, etc. But there are always certain things that we see that we think should look a certain way; however, these places never existed so we cannot accurately represent how they’d look in real-life if they had existed. It’s paradoxical at the least.
It’s not about that, such effects are removed because of performance optimisation rather than fake target renders with every single effect that the PS4 could never really render anyway. All you need to do it look at PS4/XB1 games now, with not effects in like the PC version and then claim it’s an ultra settings.
No. It simply means optimizing it more. If you have questions/concerns about the graphical integrity of the game why don’t you watch the video Naughty Dog released regarding the process of creating the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70jVUBnp6lQ
Far Cry for is poorly optimized for all systems––especially PC. That is a prime case of why graphical parity should not be used. It is definitely not a great example of what you are trying to establish. Now in the screenshot that I have of Tomb Raider, you’ll see that the only major difference is the tessellation of the hair and the straps of her clothing. The textures have all been upgraded. Not downgraded. Please get your facts straight before you start ranting.
“even with the “Definitive Edition” changes, the next gen consoles version fail to trump the PC version”
this is what Digital Foundary says
“A direct comparison with the PC version set to the ultimate quality preset reveals some large discrepancies between the Definitive Editions compared with the full-fat PC experience. Aspects such as tessellation are missing on the characters and environments, with some of these elements appearing more blocky on the PS4 and Xbox One as a result. Meanwhile, motion blur is used much more sparingly, while texture resolution is noticeably lower in some cases.”
“Running with the ultimate preset enabled and the original TressFX in action, it’s clear that the Definitive Edition delivers an upgrade in select areas, but fails to trump the PC game in all respects. Certainly, when it comes to running at 1080p60 – or with even higher resolutions and frame-rate – no other platform can truly offer a PC-beating experience.””
those are the facts.
It obviously says that “it delivers an upgrade in select areas.” That means some aspects look better than PC. That is a fact that you quoted, not me. They could have pushed better visuals if they were willing to sacrifice frame rate. They weren’t. Not that it really matters. I didn’t like the “Definitive Edition” as much as the PC version because they changed the Lara Croft character model for the worst. Also, TressFX 2.0 acted way more naturally, though it wasn’t without its faults.
And all of the “effects that were removed” was simply because they were optimizing it for all systems. This is an exclusive. They need only optimize it one. And they know how to develop for the system. It hasn’t been developed for PC and then downgraded, it was developed for PS4 and they’ll do everything to make it look as good as it can. You are trying to make it sound as though the PlayStation is an obsolete console, whereas it is not. Clearly they are making a beautiful game that ISN’T finished. If you really doubt Naughty Dog’s capability in developing a high-fidelity game, why don’t you come back when the game is released and then see if they’ve truly downgraded it.
Have you looked at the points the article is making and try to verify them?
When they re-released Tomb Raider, the developers even said that it looked better than the PC version. Sure you can max out resolution at 4k and have better tessellation, but overall, the PS4 version looked more natural. Which is what games try to imitate.
yeah ok too bad that digital foundry proved the pc version looks better.
But keep beliving in lies like “uncharted 4 has he best graphics”
digital foundry has proven that the game was downgraded what is there to talka bout?
accept it and screw off.
DF has made many mistakes and missed many things, it has been worse since the release of the new consoles, you can start to make your image of something from their analysis, but often times their “analysis” is baseless (there is simply too much differences in the settings of the E3 teaser and the PS event demo to be able to tell clearly… honestly, the oly thing you can decude that was downgraded was the frame rate cut by half … which is in and of itself a pretty big thing).
For everything else, the physics based rendering makes any perceived differences in lighting by example moot (look at ND’s artists presentation for example of what different lighting conditions can do to a scene, you will see).
As for the model, again different angles and shadows can and do change how by example the hair look (I.E. we can see it’s more like what we had before in the new footage… this is not a downgrade, you just see it in a new light… kind of like waking up with a medium looking girl in your bed, she loks good, but not like what you expected… even if the one you hit on at the club seemed hotter in the dark).
“As for the model, again different angles and shadows can and do change”
So what you pretty much saying is that the trailer was made to look better with tricks and the game never looked that good, just what they selectively shown.
tricks or not it was only a teaser, And a cut scene,Which ran on the hardware… lets apply your logic and knowledge about how things work..
Battle field 3 teaser http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4v-Zh7pqYKo/TmpCVl1p6UI/AAAAAAAAAYg/O_XiJNC1FXU/s1600/battlefield+3+screenshot+hd.jpg
Battle field 3 gameplay..
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130530060853/battlefield/images/1/1a/Montes.png
its how trailers work why do you make such a big deal over what Sony shows? IF this is acceptable?
They built the PC version DX11 only for Crysis3, the console versions are old DX9/OpenGL and the PC version doesn’t use any DX legacy. I know nothing at all, hey when you put an old Cryengine 3 video that’s 2009, it just shows crossplatform workflow because it’s a crossplatform engine, derp.
Here’s all the Crysis 3 features, so much for your “next-gen” consoles.
Realtime Global Illumination
Cascaded Light Propagation Volumes for Real Time Indirect Illumination.
Grass has full collision detection and shadow rendering receive and cast.
Volumetric Clouds
Fog Shadows
Realttime Caustic water effects and realtime reflections
Physically-based Textures and Colour
Realtime Directional Ambient Occlusion
Cascaded shadow mapping
Photo-based hemispheres
Light shafts
DX11 only based renderer for PC
Tessellation
Displacement mapping
Parallax Occlusion Mapping with silhouette
Shadow Penumbras Variables
Realtime Local reflections
If Cry engine 3 was not made for the consoles, They wouldn’t have needed Cryengine 3 at all. Crysis 3 is a port, it don’t matter if it uses directx 11 on PC, what else will it use besides Directx API, its a windows game.
Then you go around talking about FX. Anything done in Direct X 11 can be done in OpenGL its already a faster API. And can be configured how you want it to. Plus there a thing called low level coding, Don’t go around acting like DX11 is the best thing, its not its just one API.
You go around talking about effects as if they automatically make things look better, No you re**rd, the and developers how to find ways to make use of them, for performance and the proper visuals. You can’t just add GI to a scene and expect it too look good, YOu need everything else there aswelll.
Crysis 3 Looks old graphically, Just deal with it, You only have one good looking game to go on for PC comparisons but yet Next GEN hAS MANY Fantastic looking Video games which in some ways look better than your Crysis 3. It don’t have to just be a console game, Some Newer PC games look better than Crysis 3… All crysis was known for was its foliage, You can even see how that is downgraded in Crysis 3. Crysis 1 has much more beautiful worlds, and some what of an infinite view distance.
No matter how big the resolution .Your game is showing its age!
This isn’t about Console Vs PC, I don’t give a crap I game on Both, its about your screenshots looking like crap, which could have been better choices, Because most of those look bad. In comparison to other images or images from other games.
Rendering Crysis 3 in 8 k and downsampling the output to make it look even better, still don’t help the fact that your pictures don’t really look any better than a Console game… http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1318/13189652/2503738-capture.jpg
Stop speaking gibberish pc nerd.
the peasants have no idea wtf those thing are.
PC works differently, it’s not like consoles where they lock the frame-rate at 30 and add more detail and 60fps is less. PC scales with the settings you want, it’s not 30 or 60 since there is no frame-rate target on the PC since hardware is so varied.
PC games do have frame rate targets where have you been?
On a technical level it’s vastly better, try better screenshots where the consoles have lots of effects and geometry missing. If you think a small thumbnail comparison is really validating your argument you’re too stupid.
You missed the point and Actually, console version of DX9 and OpenGL can’t do the effects like DX11 and if they could they’re worse and cost more on the old older API versions and look worse.
You’re so shallow ,you can’t even appreciate depth of image quality just like consoles users don’t, because they don’t care yet pretend to care with screenshots they know nothing about, just like you.
Take a screenshot, herp, derp it looks the same, even though devs put far more love and work in the PC version for the advanced effects, make the game properly how they envisioned it rather than consoles having to use trickery to hide the lack of power and effect they can’t do.
You seem mad.
You need to go learn something about graphics technology and learn how to post real comparisons rather than thumbnail images not even at native resolution.
I studied at Full Sail, you idiot. I know a lot about graphics and technology. You’re upset that your precious crysis 3 is nothing more than a mere console port.. True it looks better on the PC, but its not some generation leap in terms of visuals, over the console. Just accept that. And move on. You’re the idiot here on a Playstation article talking about your PC.
Even infamous Second Son appears to have better character models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx17v6M-kEA
posts a crysis 3 vs x360 comparison says he studied graphics techonlogy.
Says crysis 3 is a port, doesnt reallize how multiplatform development works.
Says crysis 3 doesnt look a generation leap in terms of visuals, doesnt reallize the console version runs under the lowest pc settings.
Second son may have better character models since most enemies in crysis are aliens or masked troops but the rest of the game is a joke especially the lighting and shaders.
That’s not gameplay. Those are both cutscenes. Learn the difference. It’s a short cutscene, in which you have no control of the camera.
Way to go smarty as i said you do realize you compared a cutscene to real time game play? I showed 2 cutscenes to make my point clear. This only proves that e3 was running on ps4 in engine as they said.
It’s real time. Doesn’t matter if you control it or not.
They still look worse. So why did they make them look worse?
I don’t think this is the right thing to point out, the game is supposed to be fully real time, cut scenes included… back at E3 ND said they tagetted 60fps (Now honestly, if they had small drops below it when it ships I would not mind, so long as it’s 60 often enough that they are the exception)…
Now, I also think they may be about the same in therms of quality, just reflecting different time of day and Drake being a little more scratched back in the E3 version… the different lighting hides the way the hair is done better in the E3 version… other than that, the original ran at 60fps, now it was down to a 30fps cap (which means it probably runs close to 60 in some areas, but ND does not want to ship/demo a 40 – 50 fps game, like Killzone :SF or Infamous:SS) … so they decided to put a cap on it, which is true of all 30fps games, if they don’t drop, chances are they run significantly higher pretty often, if not all the time.
Uncharted 4 looks better than anything on pc .oh and silent hill s pt looks better too and it’s just a demo
If you werent an idiot you would find in this site that PT has been re created on pc and it looks completly identical.
Also thats the point we are making idiot.
That what you saw as a demo and a demo doesnt have much going on its just a presentation the actual game wont have as good graphics…and we were right, so much for ps4 when it just keeps on downgrading.
You dosgaming are jealous because a 400$ ps4 looks better than 3000$ pc
nice troll acount idiot. upvoting your own comment, sorry to burst your buble but uncharted 4 is a 60 fps game and as everyone here said it doesnt look like much. A 400$ pc can run games as well as ps4.
PWND
For everyone who was watching the gameplay video and screams DOWNGRADE, do us all a favor and watch the PlayStation Experience panel that the shows us the the graphical fidelity of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70jVUBnp6lQ
Naughty Dog has already confirmed that the only difference is the shaders. The shading in the reveal was the perfect lighting to showcase all of the detail of the Nathan Drake sculpt. So all of the detail is there. It’s just not being highlighted in this environment.
naughty dog can confirm all they want that the ai in TLOU was as good as e3 but it wasnt.
Stop sucking sony dck.
Then stop eating PC’s stank a** vagina. You know, maybe get a life, buy a console before you start acting as though you know everything there is about one. I have a PC too, but that doesn’t blind me with bias like it does to you.
uncharted 4 looks better than anything on pc .oh and pt looks better too .
upvoting your own comment like an idiot, no it doesnt look better than anything on pc it looks like tomb raider with slightly better graphics and i dont know how to tell you this but PT has been recreated on pc and it looks exactly the same, pro tip, its not exlusive to ps4
its funny how you say i am $%#%#$% but you are the biggest unduduated idiot i haver ever seen.
you said NOTHING, none of your incoherenet nonsense made any since.
Only that laptops are not good for gaming which is a freaking fact. Get a laptop with the same hardware as a pc, not only the laptop will cost more but it will run games worse.
look if you gonna post a video might as well not use a sony propaganda video
How is it propaganda? They state facts about a game that they developed. I’m sure they know more about it than you do.
does this process cover the part taht they downgraded uncharted 2 and 3 and ruined the ai in tlou?
The irony.
I bet portal 2 was a console port as well.
CryEngine 3 was developed with console in mind, I remember the developer interview in 2009 when they first displayed its tech, They changed it all up just in order for it to work on the outdated consoles, And some how push the PC engine farther.. Crysis 3 may not be a port but its not the best engine, And i don’t even consider it the best looking game anymore with out mods.
The devs say their self that its the exact same engine used on PC which was designed to work on consoles + direct 9 and 10. Take it up with them. It looks better on PC because of higher texture memory and the use of GI. Other than that its the same crap. Anyway its new years I don’t have time to argue with idiots about unimportant stuff anymore. Crysis 3 is no longer the go to game for Best graphics,
Cry MORE no one really gives a flying flip. Besides you of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vrUxy0tpbU
Yes and it also showed demos showing that the engine is designed to provide the best possible graphics on all 3 systems and adjust dynamically in real time.
What you see is what you get
Crysis 2 had intenitonally subpar graphics so people wont have to upgrade.
Crysis 3 however has far better graphics and it is directx11 ONLY with the game running UNDER the lowest settings on consoles and the engine is capable of utilizing multiple cpu cores while crysis 1 was limted at 2 cores. Plus cryengine 3 is next gen ready MEANING x86 pc architecture
“The devs say their self that its the exact same engine used on PC”
They didnt and it cant be the same engine you MORON because it was upgraded and has dx11 support where crysis 2 added dx11 support afterwards and it was poor.
” It looks better on PC because of higher texture memory and the use of GI.Other than that its the same crap.”
Let me quote digital foundry
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-crysis-3-face-off
“With the arrival of next-gen consoles, Crysis 3 is an intriguing
glimpse into a ‘cross-gen’ future, where game engines are scalable
between generations with some massive differences.
” The advanced use of water caustics also carries over to all three
platforms (which sees the three-dimensional body of water react to
characters and objects passing through it), albeit in a much simpler
form on consoles which lacks the same level of interactivity that is
present on PC. Here, the expanded lighting model sees light sources
reflected off the water’s surface and into the surrounding walls and
ceiling in underground areas.
An increase in the amount of shadows being cast also gives these scenes a
significant amount of atmosphere that is lacking on the consoles, where
we find the lighting model is flatter and less dynamic in many areas.
Shadow quality on all platforms is visibly improved over that of Crysis
2, appearing smoother and more refined. On the PC most lights appear to
cast shadows across the environments, and these are both better filtered
and rendered in a higher resolution than on console ”
Crytek’s use of advanced rendering techniques don’t stop there, of
course: various post-processing effects are employed to add to the
intensity of certain scenes throughout the game – grain/noise filters
are used for atmospheric effects in a number of areas on the PC, which
are absent on console. Camera and object blur, along with other screen
distortion effects are present on all three platforms but feature
higher-precision implementations on the PC. Motion blur is also used
more liberally in order to give the game a more cinematic feel, but as a
side effect it also makes frame-rates appear smoother than they really
are. Additionally, smoke and particle effects are more detailed on PC
and we also see the inclusion of advanced character and environment
reflections not found on either console.Overall, there’s no
question that the PC game offers up the definitive visual experience and
it clearly gives us a glimpse at the kind of rendering quality we
expect to be seeing in titles running on the next generation of consoles
with regards to level of detail on offer and the advanced nature of the
effects work. However, Crysis 3 is also a game that requires some
serious grunt under the hood to run the game at its best.”
“Where Crysis 3 really shines is on the PC, in which we are presented
with a huge leap in graphical quality that gives us a tantalising
glimpse of visual accomplishment on next-gen hardware.”
” Either way, even on lower-level settings, Crysis 3 on PC still yields a
far more impressive experience than either console version.”
Yeah like you said “other than that its the same crap”
” Anyway its new years I don’t have time to argue with idiots about
unimportant stuff anymore. Crysis 3 is no longer the go to game for Best
graphics,
Cry MORE no one really gives a flying flip. Besides you of course.”
Actually the moron here is you and yes you do have time to argue because the only who cares here is you, we know that crysis 3 does look better than shadowfall and infamous, lets not get into driveclub and we will know wherever it beats the order once it is out.
Until then you have been utterly destroyed by FACTS.
small picture from youtube video clearly not focused on anything.
Really?
REALLY?
The video you showed proves that its not a port but the pc version was developed alongisde the console version and scaled depending the hardware.
Saying its a port is like saying portal 2 was a port because it had a bug that it said “dont turn of your console becasue someone forgot to change that string.
You have no idea how multiplatform development works.
“Crysis 1 has much more beautiful worlds, and some what of an infinite view distance.”
Like i said the engine scales on all systems but the consoles are limited, consoles cant handle the large maps of crysis 1 or the physics, so they didnt include them, doesnt change the fact the pc version beats the console version even on lowest settings.
what are you talking about idiot?
so how they are doing now still in denial?
they still defend uncharted 2 downgrade so yeah they are a cult alright.
I really wanna do some research and see who is working on naughty dog and what they have done before.
Because
-lead writer left naughty dog
-lead character artistst left the studio
-lead gameplay designer left the studio
So you telling me the most important heads left the studio to go somehwere else, but since they have to hire new ones to fix that, they are hiring the best because they are doing amazing thing and they will go as far as uncanny valley visuals.
Honestly i dont know what is worse that if i posted this in dualshockers the cultists would find me and my family and sacrifice us to yoshida san. Or that they actually believe the bullsht that sony is feeding them.
guiseppe should get rid of himself the clown is a fanboy that posts stupid articles like “naughty dog is proud of their work and “check out this moustache on the order” or “nntendo has something to show us they got a list ready on youtube” or saying that dsogaming is a trash site for exposing uncharted and cried on twitter about it then digital foundry did it. Not to mention “sony will show off 2 new AAA games in december” and how he damaged control it with “uncharted 4 did not look like ps experiance reveal a while ago”
Seriously that shill should jump off a bridge REPEATEADLY.
He argues about everyone and everything and he is a “public relations manager” for the site.
As for the 30 fps, thief devs said that 30 fps is better for thief, the game run at 27 fps on consoles, ubisoft said 30 fps is more cinematic, 21 fps, evil within said its meant to be cinematic 20 fps.
I can now call it, the order will go under 30 fps and every time someone talks about 30 fps i will automaticly assume they cant even do 30.
How on earth does the pc port look and run better than the lead console versions?
?????
Pc gamers should make a shrine for nixxes.
type reasons not to preorder the order on youtube by eurogamer.
The game is still a buggy mess.
was it? i heard from everywhere that thief run quite well on pc.
If you adjusted your display settings…the prealpha build looks like this:
So like a last gen game at a last gen 30FPs. Gotcha.
Did they ever actually claim that that reveal trailer was indicative of what the gameplay would look like? It seemed pretty clear that it was a cutscene to me.
Who cares at this point? Happy new years.
You care, crysis 3 on pc is leaps and bounds above the console version even on lowest settings as digital foundry said.
It all looks the same to me, yes tell me to get my eyes fixed or something, I don’t really care, Its a new year this convo as started last year and i don’t even really remember the argument, There for IDGAF, If you think Crysis 3 is still the best looking game , thats your opinion, so long!
You are a f’ing idiot, “hur dur looks the same to me”
Digital foundry and youtube videos have proven that even on the lowest setting it looks better, what is the consoletards view? “HUR DUR LOOKS THE SAME TO ME” yes crysis 3 is still the best looking game becuase the order isnt out and uncharted 4 is a 60 fps game .
Sorry it does look very similar to me, maybe not exactly the same but unless i’m sitting 2 feet from my monitor or TV making a comparison, or using a magnifying glass to see which pixel is a different shade, the differences are not that drastic.
You can continue to argue as much as you want, but in the end its only your opinion vs mine. I love that last sentence which explains why you’re so pissed off.
You don’t want anything from console to look better than anything on your crappy PC. You act like a kid who owns a low end laptop, Posting pictures around trying to compensate for the lack of a large penis. Become an internet warrior, Claim PC is hot shit when you’re pc cleary isn’t just to get over your depression.
I’ve been gaming at 4k for the past 3 years punk , I don’t really give a damn about crysis 3 or any other game. But The next gen games do look better than this POS game in many area’s, The order character models look CGI, Crysis still look like a console game with a high rez texture applied to the face, while The order characters skin uses shaders and next gen techniques.
I beat you couldn’t sleep at night when they showed UC4 , for the first time which was a cutscene anyway, Now they show game play you post pictures religiously trying to claim downgrade. There isn’t a down grade you idiot One is a cut scene the next is gameplay, learn something stop quoting Digital foundry they made made the same mistake.
You can cry more and toss in your grave when you die or something wouldn’t bother me one bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXQWrd4lMlg#t=220
This Game is Crysis 3. It makes look every PS4 Game like Sh*t. And you know, this Game Released 2013 .Prepare your Anus PS4 🙂
You people keeps complaining about how the reveal looks so much better than the game-play demo and yet no one complained about how Drake’s Fortune’s reveal look different or Uncharted 2 and 3’s reveal or the fact that The Last of Us reveal trailer looked nothing like the final game. And for anyone who doesn’t remember, the cinematic cut-scenes always looked better than in-game with all Uncharted games and The Last of Us.
Massive downgrade
Why compare a E3 CGI trailer to a In game Graphics…this is pointless..
the real deal is the ACU, ubi downgraded it..like watch dogs.
this is the only reason why i’ll cop a ps4, just for uncharted..im a pc gamer.