In a Reddit AMA, Deck13’s developers revealed some new details about the PC version of The Surge. According to the developers, the PC version of The Surge won’t be a console port as Deck13 is co-developing on PC and consoles.
“Actually the PC version isn’t a port, as we were co-developing on PC and consoles. The versions of all three platforms should feel very much on par – of course, you can ramp it up a bit more on the PC if you have a powerful machine!”
But what about the DRM that will be applied to this game? Well, according to the developers, there won’t be any additional DRM other than Steam’s very own DRM.
“When you’re publishing a game you look at a lot of options and a lot of partnerships and from that data you project a result.
In this case, the data suggested that heavy DRM wasn’t the right solution for this game. I realize that’s quite a shit answer, but my point is that nobody is gunning for Denuvo or against Denuvo, a series of very uninteresting discussions simply result in its use or not. In this case, nah.”
So yeah, apparently Focus Home Interactive is not really a fan of DRMs.
The Surge releases tomorrow!
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“The versions of all three platforms should feel very much on par – of course, you can ramp it up a bit more on the PC if you have a powerful machine!”
I’m pretty sure that an uncapped frame-rate will “feel” more than just “a bit more” superior to the console-standard 30fps in addition to how much more immersive the higher resolution and other bells and whistles will make it feel.
Fair play to him, though. He was having to walk the media tightrope of selling their game to PC gamers while not risking upsetting the console crowd with the full truth.
“He was having to walk the media tightrope of selling their game to PC gamers while not risking upsetting the console crowd with the unvarnished truth.”
I feel this needs to change, for the better of gaming in the future I mean. Those that pay for lesser hw, shouldn’t be upset when the latest comes around and can do factually better. Devs need to start being more open about which platform is the lead for said games design. We need more “we’re making primarily for PC in mind, bells and whistles, while consoles for what they can handle”.
By saying “what they can handle”, you are both telling the truth (because it’s not like are are magically infinite in power and have a set limit) and letting them know in a way that isn’t like treating them as a special snowflake.
Ah, but “what lesser hardware? Lesser hardware? Consoles no have less hardware! PEECEE EZ SUX! F U DUMB TURD DEVELOPER!”
Publishers still see the console market as being far more profitable than the PC version, so they’d rather “walk the tightrope” as Bub said, than admit that consoles suck & they’re holding everyone back, as they know how much backslash they’d face by offending them like that, since they got it from PC Gamers every time they opened their mouths on piracy, or some such associated bullsh*t for years on end, now.
I agree, but publishers still see the console money as being “the most important”, so while they’ll stop short of Order 1886’ing stuff after that particular fiasco, we’ll only see developers openly discussing PC lead projects every so often, regardless of what.
Plus Microsoft & Sony are known to throw fits when you call their sh*t weak (in public), which probably comes back to haunt publishers during console royalty negotiations.
Please remind me whats Order 1886ing means?
I had that game pre-ordered, finished and considered my money well spent, amazing graphics, interesting unique story, ill buy part 2 without waiting for review if they make it.
“30 FPS & black bars makes for a more cinematic experience!”
Nobody is going to try justifying something like that with an excuse that stupid any time soon, the backslash was too much.
The PRO has 60FPS version too, but ill take PC version for my 1080Ti, bet it can do Ultra 4K/60fps, nothing special graphically and its all corridors
It’ll be interesting to see if PS4 Pro actually delivers a steady 60fps as opposed to the wildly fluctuating juddering frame-rates seen in some of its previous games that targeted 60fps. The same goes for all the other graphical bells and whistles that’ll presumably once more all be pared back.
I’m already interested
Thank God, this is something I have never heard before so I am absolutely willing to take that at a face value…
pirates in DSOG den rejoice!. pirates all laughing happily to play the game for free.
Or people wanting a game without denuvo that isnt some trash port.
after lord of the fallen, I think I’ll wait to even think about playing a game from these devs.
I suggest you find a vod or someone playing it on stream, its a ton better than lords of the fallen. They massively improved and so far a lot of people are saying surge is the best souls-like game to exist as of now
I will check it out!, it’s just that lotf was such a huge let down for me.
Do me a favor, go to steamspy and check lord of the fallen sales, the game they made before this and how well it sold. That game was one of the first to use denuvo.
Eh, to be honest, the game didn’t sell very well because the game itself was kinda mediocre and very badly optimized at release. Other games with Denuvo have sold just fine, like Mad Max, Battlefield 1, Total War Warhammer, Phantom Pain, etc.
The sales were horrible and it was one of the first that used denuvo. They didnt get sales because of denuvo.
I’d say all of the above, more than likely. Denuvo definitely held it back, absolutely, as there was a serious amount of negative information going around about it back then (destroys your SSD, etc.), but the game was regardless launched in a bad state, & it wasn’t even that good, anyway.
For a new IP from a relatively unknown dev I wouldn’t say the sales were ‘horrible’, what kind of standards are you using?
They didn’t get sales because the game was the very definition of mediocrity. Again, Mad Max and Phantom Pain were also early adopters of Denuvo and those sold just fine.
Keep in mind these are the same guys made Lords of the Fallen, which took months of patching before it ran decently (and still isn’t perfect to this day). Not saying they can’t have improved or learned, but wait for reviews as always. No Denuvo is always a good start at least.
The crashes were mostly caused by Denuvo. I would even take a guess and say that Denuvo is why they’re not using it anymore.
And if you’re wondering how can someone say if it was Denuvo or the game crashing, it was easy to see. Everytime the game crashed, it created a error report to send, Denuvo would just send you desktop with nothing to do or inform you.
They believe in this game, its been around 10 days on different YouTube gamers hands, you can watch gameplay and reviews.
Means that they trust their product and the reviews are good, harder than Dark souls, good combat system, dark souls in reverse: few bosses but any enemy can kill you easily
Thats good to know. Sadly i can’t reward them for that atm i am completely swamped with games to get through right now…
For what is worth tb said its good, unlike lords of the fallen.
TuBerculosis thinks it good? Oh, well, then….. >.>
Yeah, sorry, but he’s only right ever so often, really.
Hey if you got someone eles that does what he does, by all means feel free to reccomend.
Well, SuperBunnyHop partly overlaps. Beyond that, I’ll get back to you once I actually remember their names…… ^^
lords of the fallen was better than dark souls 1 and 2 by far
“Because Denuvo”?
D0h.
no, hits felt more real and satisfying, physic was also superior, armors were cooler, graphic was more atmospheric and better overall
Just bought it. Hope it is a keeper.
I became mildly more interested in it now.
those are the golden words which you RARELY see nowadays
“not a port” “will not use denovu”
man i wish every developer was like this, also notice how they just dropped steam keys all togather, you can’t find this game anywhere but steam (not GMG, not G 2 A, and not even retail either)
that way, people will have to pay full price no matter what
which i think, for a DRM-less game is a good thing
Actually you can find keys for it in several sites.
just checked GMG
they have pre-order keys but as far i know GMG with pre-orders
they probably don’t own a single key and if you buy it now you’ll recieve it late
GamersGate too. And a bunch on other ‘grey market’ sites.
I wonder if this was Deck 13’s decision, or Focus Home Interactive’s, specifically.
After all, Deck 13’s Lords of the Fallen was one of the earliest Denuvo “protected” titles, ever.
Either way, great to hear. Also, more proof that Denuvo is pointless is always good ^^
I guess CI Games was the reason for Denuvo on LotF, they love DRMs, one of them even married to one 😀
drms are great when they don’t damage player experience like denuvo
Yeah No, Denuvo is bad, mmkay ? even the ones who don’t damage player experience aren’t great, there is nothing great about them for consumers at all but for morons like you, yeah i guess they are great.
they’re not great when you pirate everything, they’re great when they save your investment from little leeches who don’t want to pay
as consumers, it shouldn’t matter at all
What about your mon ? she matters to me and i invested alot in her, why did you locked her up then ?
you sound very upset, what happened sweetie, did you get picked on in school today?
Respect your father, Son.
gotta love khaki people and their obsession with parents
Well i’m white, Goat, now what ? it’s better to have obsession with goats, like you.
again what’s with khaki people and their obsession to present themselves as white? if i started walking around saying i’m black because i’m tan can you imagine what would happen to me?
No obsession here i am an aryan and not proud of my race/color whatever and not hating it either, but you are obsessed to call others khaki/brown etc when you have nothing else to say.
yeah, i’ve seen indians and people with names similar to muhammed claiming to be aryan before, i’m just scratching my head, maybe chinese are actually latinos, who knows bruh, lol
Yeah no, i’m not Indian, i’m an Iranian, not even a muslim but yeah have an arabic name, again i don’t care what you might think.
that explains everything, my prediction of having obsession to be white was pin point accurate in this case, out of all the middle east countries your country along side with indians are the worst in this regard
lol ok Goat, still don’t care, but looks like skin color is your favorite topic, don’t be a hypocrite, it’s your obsession. i’m only obsessed with your mom.
ahh…typical arab with parent insults, classic
your next comment : “sniff…sniff” aaaaaah, i’m not arab even though i look exactly like an arab, who cares dude, embrace reality instead of living in dreams and then maybe your country could achieve a thing or two
lol, say what you want kido, i’m still happy with her 😀
ahh…typical burger with race insults, ironic.
it’s ok though, i identify as an attack helicopter
That was refreshingly honest regarding the DRM. He didn’t condemn it, just stated it didn’t seem like the right choice for this specific project. Hopefully they’ll maintain that attitude.
just came back after 90 mintues, gotta say i really hate the starting weapons in this game
you have a choice between no damage, clunky, super clunky and fast but still no damage
it’s lords of the fallen all over again… but without the magic
and i gotta say, i miss the magic
esp RAGE (infinite stamina and a buff to damage for a short duration)
i don’t know… i feel like refunding but then i’ll regret it
i’ll raid the wiki and see any on the path weapons
You have to target unarmored body parts for actual damage, targeting armored parts has much less damage and you do it to cut that part and take the weapon or armor part
I’ll get it because no DRM..
it seems to be the most effective way to fight parasites of society called pirates
Not really now it has been downgraded to a mild annoyance at the most for them, becouse up until this point two groups menaged to crack the latest version of it and cracks are coming in more or less 1,5 of a week.
many denuvo games are still uncracked, one scenes quit last year, denuvo still protects sales for a long time, you are just a pirate trying to cheer yourself
And apparently you’re not just a shill using weak-*ss wanna-be logic to make yourself feel better about the ever-more humiliated Denuvo?
Also, calling everyone who hates DRMs “a pirate” is childish, you know.
all this time i was defending drm for my own entertainment and laughs because people take everything serious (specially here), i absolutely do not care if a game gets pirated, i pirate games very often but do not tell me i can’t recognize a pirate.
to be clear, i pirate only and only abandoned early access games and basically everything that EA publishes to punish trash developers, that being said, i rarely play any video games other than total war and wargame series
You’re mental, kid.
lol, i was just kidding, i hate pirates who aren’t me
Like I said. Nutjob.
Ehh the game is ok. the port is pretty awesome though. looks and runs great on mid range hardware.