It appears that more details about Intel’s 10th generation CPUs have surfaced online. According to Intel’s slides, these new CPUs will require a new socket (in other words, new motherboards) and will offer a respectable performance boost.
The new Intel CPUs will cover a lot of tiers, meaning that we can expect to see new i3, i5, i7 and i9 models. As we’ve already reported, both the i3 and i5 models will support Hyper Threading. This will be crucial for these new CPUs as they will be able to handle newer games.
Intel’s 10th generation of CPUs will feature up to 10 processor cores for enhanced performance, up To 30 PCH-H High-Speed I/O lanes for port flexibility and up To 40 PCIe 3.0 Lanes (16 CPU, up to 24 PCH). They will also have enhanced core and memory overclock, as well as integrated USB 3.2 Gen 2×1 support.
Here are the main key features of these new CPUs.
Furthermore, the 10th Generation Comet Lake CPUs will offer an 18% performance improvement in multi-threaded compute workloads. They will also offer a 8% performance improvement in general Windows workloads.
As said, these new CPUs will require a new socket, socket LGA 1200. Not only that, but this new socket will not be compatible with older CPUs. In other words, don’t expect to be using a new LGA 1200 motherboard with an Intel i9 9900K. On the other hand, existing coolers will be compatible with the LGA 1200 socket. Comet Lake LGA also promises to improve power delivery and support for future incremental I/O features.
Before closing, here are all of Intel’s 10th Generation Comet Lake CPU models that will come out.
Kudos to our reader Metal Messiah for bringing this to our attention.
Thanks WCCFTech
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“will require new motherboards”
Of course it will. Fvcking intel….
amd isn’t really any better when it comes to that. almost all new gen sh*t needs a new board as well.
Don’t they always? It’s a bloodsucking, backstabbing industry.
no pci express 4 no 7nm !
PCI-Express version/bandwidth, and process NODE do not always matter, be it 7nm, 10nm, 12nm, 14nm or 16nm…
The Architecture, and chip design layout, also plays a huge role in this.
See for yourself….Nvidia’s new TURING GPUs are more power efficient, and they are also ahead when it comes to performance in GAMES as well, when compared to AMD’s NAVI GPUs.
The TURING GPUs use the Fabrication process: TSMC 12 nm, whereas NAVI cards are based on a 7nm process Node. But Nvidia cards still perform better, and are also more power efficient to some extent.
I’m not favoring NVIDIA or AMD here. Just pointing out the facts…PCI-Express is also “backwards compatible”.
It’s stupid to get a new pc in 2020 with PCIe 3.0 … even the new consoles will have access to an ssd with comparable speeds ONLY to the new nvme PCIe 4.0 … and I bet it will be a key feature in the new generation … for example Star Citizen is unplayable on a mechanical hard drive … very bad stuttering and a 20 fps difference with an ssd … I believe that the next gen games will be developed with the 64 GB/s of PCIe 4.0 in mind.
Next gen games are always developped wit go strong features in mind and they always end being cut back for many reasons, hardware, staff, software.
Whatever may fit.
You have no f*king clue what you’re talking about Er Libanese 167.
Do you have any idea what it takes to fully saturate a 16x PCIe 4.0 slot?
You need massive DUAL GPU cards, even they wont be able to fully saturate it.
There have been reviewers that have tested this, going back to Gen 2 PCIe, and the fact is, we dont even need PCIe Gen 3, if we’re using standard mid or high-end single GPUs on a 16x slot.
PCIe Gen 4.0 only comes handy in extremely demanding very high bandwidth limited situations, such us having a demand for extremely fast storage of many many NVMe drives, on a server rack that is utilizing massive SSD storage.
TL;DR; PCIe Gen 3 isnt even fully saturated under most normal gaming scenarios with virtually any single GPU cards on the market, right now.
PCIe Gen 4 has DOUBLE the bandwidth, so why would we need that?
If you want to make an argument for future compatibility, and being able to take advantage of future generations of graphics cards that will be several times faster and more bandwidth limited than current gen, fine. But MOST people, I repeat; MOST PEOPLE, dont build a machine with the intent of keeping it for a decade or so.
If you have doubts about what I am saying, go and look this stuff up.
Hell, you can even benchmark it yourself, if you feel like it.
Take a PCIe Gen 3 compatible graphics card, and put it in a PC that has a motherboard with a toggle for Gen 2/3 for PCIe. My motherboard has that toggle in the BIOS. I know not all motherboards do, but you can find them.
Test with both settings. See virtually no difference.
If you still have doubts, take 2 different machines, 1 will be Gen 2, the other Gen 3, but similar performance and specs, and test again with the same card.
Very little difference, if any at all.
You dont know what you’re talking about.
I know that CURRENTLY we are not even exploiting the full potential of PCie 3.0, but I still think that, now that it is reality, it is worth investing in 4.0, for a future-proof PC
todaya, i still prefer intel cpu than amd cpu….. ^^
Yeah. I get you. Winter is coming. And the 9900KS is around 95C’…. Good space heater.
Intel CPU is not only i9 9900KS, bro … there are still many other types & series ……. i7, i5 …. etc …. ^^
Noooo….
No way…..
Rly?????
Image buying a i7 or i5 in 2019… Than You must be a special snowflake
so, what is your problem, dude ?? ^^
Ppl buying /supporting intel cuz its 2% faster than cheaper and Stronger amd cpus…..
Amd’s new chipset isn’t super stable right now and pcie4.0 is over rated and will be for the what 2-4 years to come ? That bandwith difference sure is there on synthethic benchmarks but real world difference is vert meh.
Jeeeez man.
Arent you a intel boy..
No just what i’m seeing around forums and reviews. It’s very “new” so not stable.
Wow very new so unstable mutch useless wow…..
I bet if intel would have pcie4 you would not say dumb sh.t like that….
But hey
Enjoy buyng a new MB every time you upgrade. .
And playing more for less….
And having a space heater lol….
WP intel…. WP…..
No. Kept my P6X58D-E long after 3.0 came out because when there’s a shift in PCIE protocol in the early days it’s feel more of a show than an actual upgrade. I’m not tring to steer anyone towards Intel or AMD it is only because the way the comment was written it is as IF AMD made no fault ever and had the perfect platform for everyone.
Which is not the case for neither Intel nor AMD.
Both have their negative and positive sides. I swear gaming became like car brand loyalty.
so, what ?? i dont care if amd cpus is something like that…. it doesnt matter to me….. ^^
Sorry, bud, but “today”, Intel is mostly inferior. You can still prefer it if you like, of course, but AMD has taken an edge on Intel for the time being. It’s just the way it is.
That’s simply not true though. They are on par in performance with Intel still on a bigger node. This means Intel’s architecture is superior in theory, they just need to shrink it down to 7nm to pull past Ryzen. It’s the same situation in GPUs. AMD got to 7 nm first and yet they only deliver the same performance and power efficiency as nvidia does on 12 nm. Once nvidia shrinks down to 7nm it’s over in GPUs as well. Intel and nvidia are still on top, they’ve just been slacking off because AMD took so long to catch up. 2020 or 21 all will return to normal in both categories (CPU and GPU).
And that’s not good for the consumer. We need amd to outperform intel and nvidia. Else those new xtreme cpus wouldn’t be 1/2 $.
So next year, the current i9 will basically be the new i7 and the i9 will have 10 cores.
So it will reach AMD for mainstream number of CPU cores/threads while the i9 will still pale in comparison vs AMD’s number of cores/threads.
Not to mention desktop 10th gen will still be 6th gen Skylake, so same IPC, same clocks of ~5 GHz, while AMD Ryzen 4000 will have higher IPC AND higher clocks, fully destroying Intel’s desktop 10th gen.
Fully?… Mmm gotta see that actually happen…
18%……
Pathetic….
You need more than that to keep up with AMD.
Please stop spreading misinformation. You keep exhibiting strong fanboy behavior, and you dont know what you’re talking about, evidently.
Intel has been a long withstanding king in gaming, and thats primarily because of that ring bus architecture.
AMD, through massive fast strides in IPC and general aggressive binning of their mainstream CPUs keeps closing the gap more and more, and has finally approached Intel, to the point where its pretty much neck and neck now, but Intel CPUs still have a slight edge in gaming.
Nevertheless, when it comes to specific price points and budgets, AMD has significant advantages over Intel, such as not trying to force you to buy a new mobo along with every new CPU generation. In addition, AMD stock coolers actually work , and when it comes to pure multi-threaded productivity performance, AMD is ahead of Intel, mostly because of the increased number of threads they offer compared to Intel.
It all depends on what you want to do, how much money you’re paying, and the particular time that you’re buying.
Right now, Intel is about to release its “answer” to AMD’s 3rd gen Ryzen, their 10th gen Core CPUs.
So yes at the moment, maybe you can say that Intel is behind, in a sense, but its foolish to buy anything right now, because AMD will be releasing its 4th Gen Ryzen only a few months after Comet Lake.
Again, I repeat: Stop spreading lies and misinformation, and stop fanboying so hard.
Long story short: Intel has been taking advantage of their lead over AMD, and has sat back and kept selling us the same stuff re-badged, year in and year out.
AMD finally put the pressure on Intel, and Intel is now forced to compete, which means lower prices and higher performance for us consumers, and the 2 companies finally being close, and having to compete for market share.
Intel isnt history, far from it.
AMD had been left behind, eating dirt, but are now finally right next to Intel, but still the underdog. Compare Intel to AMD in terms of sheer finances and corporate size, and you’ll see that Intel is a giant, that is extremely hard to bring down.
This is why we must have competition, and avoid monopolies: Whichever company is at the very top, will keep growing more and more, until they eventually become so arrogant and greedy, that they’ll be exploiting us like Intel has for the past decade or so.
Dont even root for 1 company over another. Thats exactly what they want you to do, because virtually all companies want market dominance, even to the point of monopolizing it.
There is so mutch working what you just said.
Why new motherboards?!?!
Why amd can support 3-4 gen of the same cpu without changing motherboard and you cant?!?!
My only upgrade option is going from a 9700k to a 9900k(which is not an upgrade they are completely similar at the moment for gaming performance)
Intentional changes, to force upgrades on all fronts. Not exactly a new tactic when it comes to Intel.
Now you have two choices. Join the Ryzen wave. Or continue jumping through hoops for Intel, like a good little lab rat. Up to you in the end.
AS IF amd is cleaner than ever plz. The cpu market is far from an utopia
I will switch to ryzen the day they get ahead of intel in term of gaming performances and emulators.
For those 2 intel are still better
This has something to do with the architectural changes, on both the Hardware and software level of support, including the firmware/BIOS as well.
The new CPUs are based on a ‘slightly’ refined Architecture, and they will also have many other NEW features, including mitigations for Spectre, Meltdown and other threats.
So, previous Motherboards won’t support these new CPUs, and this has also to do with the CPU and mobo PIN layout, SOCKET, and hardware design.…
What’s meaning mitigations for Spectre, Meltdown and others? They will completely fix those things in hardware? Previously I’ve heard that a brand new architecture is needed for a 100% fix of those threats. Correct me if i’m wrong…
No, you are actually correct. These CPUs won’t have full 100% protection from any mitigation.
It requires an Architecture overhaul, but even though after this we can’t say for sure that any future hardware is NOT to going to be prone to threats.
There is no foolproof architecture.
johny dreaming about 18 % improvement
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8208503217aced7733c5bfe17f6e06e56b74dea3c1ee430385bbcb996718846e.jpg
This is literally impossible to achieve in 14nn no matter how many +++++++ it has.
When i see 16cpu and 24pch lmao…
Like you have 3 m2? Welp fk u then, you have 1 or 2 welp put your gpu on 8x then. I don’t know why they have specs like this… The extreme platform has 40+ cpu lanes which won’t create bottlenecks.
Just why?
If i’m not mistaken the pch is connected with a 4x link to cpu? So if 2xm2 (4x@3.0) is used the. Performance is going to be 50% more or less ?
18% with 20% more cores makes sense as they have to lower the frequency a bit but i thought IPC was finally going up again? Who buys Intel CPU’s for multithreading performance anyways that’s like picking a 3900X over a 9900K for only emulation
2016’s ~2000$ CPU, 10 core Intel Broadwell 6950X will become the 2020’s 10900K, a 500$, 10 core Intel Skylake at higher clocks with higher IPC as well.
Thank God for AMD.
Up to 18% and up to 8% performance. With no support for PCIE-4 and DDR-5 not so far away, this new socket maybe very short lived.
On some other INTEL’s CPU related news. Intel 10th Gen Core Cascade Lake X now ‘coming’ later November,,
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-10th-gen-core-cascade-lake-x-now-coming-later-november
https://www.computerbase.de/2019-11/cascade-lake-x-intel-cpu-paperlaunch/
You guys actually missed one most important point, and I think this info should be added as well, in the above article…..
These slides are not meant to showcase what the future gaming platform has to offer. The Comet Lake S series for gaming will feature a K-series processor (unlocked) and Z490 motherboards. Both are NOT present in these slides.
This new Leaked presentation focuses only on workstations and embedded systems.
14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ and still need new mobo.. nice one..