A lot has been said about Denuvo. A number of gamers claimed that their SSDs broke down due to this anti-tamper tech, and that some games suffered from performance issues due to it. However – and since we’ve tested a lot of games that are powered by Denuvo – we can safely say that those rumours were not legit at all. Not only that, but it appears that Denuvo is doing a great job at preventing pirates and scene groups from pirating/cracking PC games.
These past couple of months we got a respectable number of PC games that are powered by Denuvo. And, surprisingly enough, most of them have not been cracked.
The only scene group that was able to crack some older versions of Denuvo was 3DM, and that group has decided to suspend its efforts in 2016. No other group has been able to crack Denuvo, and we frankly don’t expect anyone – at this point – to come up with a solution.
Which is great as publishers have found a way to effectively protect their PC games.
Now we know that some PC gamers believe that Denuvo is causing performance issues. However, that’s not really the case. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, Mad Max, Star Wars: Battlefront and DOOM are considered among the most optimized PC games of 2015 and 2016. So no, Denuvo is not causing performance issues.
Here is the current list of PC games powered by Denuvo:
FIFA 15
Lords of the Fallen
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Battlefield: Hardline
Batman: Arkham Knight
Mad Max
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
FIFA 16
Anno 2205
Star Wars Battlefront
Just Cause 3
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Unravel
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2
Far Cry Primal
Hitman
Need for Speed
EVE: Gunjack
ADR1FT
The Climb
DOOM
Homefront: The Revolution
Total War: Warhammer
Now with the exception of some older games, most of these titles have not been cracked. As of right now, there are no working cracks for HITMAN, Far Cry Primal, Just Cause 3, Battlefront, Rise of the Tomb Raider, DOOM and Homefront: The Revolution.
Oh, and in case you didn’t know, Mirror’s Edge Catalyst will be powered by Denuvo.
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Gotta go stock up on some popcorn before the fun starts.
P.S. Good to see DSOGaming not shying away from controversial subject matter that usually splits readers.
Well it’s a pretty hot topic around here. Even unrelated discussions sometimes turn into showdowns over Denuvo, lol.
Simple mind sees everything so simple. I envy you.
White.
Black.
Pick one.
Nothing else matters.
Nope,Denuvo didn’t really “stopped” anything,piracy on gaming still exist on most newest games(as most still don’t and probably won’t have Denuvo),there are still limited way to pirate denuvo games-Sharing expliot,it will probably get cracked evuntally when it will be reversed like Starforce.
The controversial matter is wherever it increases sales, it does not, saying it keeps games uncrackable does not offer anything for discussion it is a “no sht captain obvious”
It’s not necessarily “no sh*t captain obvious” since most other anti-piracy solutions have been cracked quite easily. Denuvo remains uncracked till now even after so long, so that’s something worthwhile.
Stoped piracy yes but did not increase sales. That is a much more interesting topic.
ok
Pointless news
Some of those games haven’t sold that great so i wonder what the devs/publishers will blame it on.
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Some of them might be honest like the Homefront 2 devs, we are aware of the bugs and we are working on them as fast as possible to bring you the best possible gaming experince. Others might confess the game wasnt so good for starters not that expect talk like that from EA or UBI. But still…
All of them has sold more than 500.000 according to steam except Homefront that is a very bad game and Primal that is a Uplay game so most people bought it from there instead of steam
LOL?
You cannot seriously be stupid enough to believe that?
Who the hell buys from uPlay? No, seriously. Who ever, given the opportunity, would prefer to buy a game from uPlay instead of Steam? Get real.
BUT YOU SEE ALL OF THEM SOLD OVER 500K, like most games do, i urge to go back and check older games.
Besides if your stupid argument was correct then why is cracked arkham knight and lords of the fallen at 450k?
Why is just cause 3 at 500k and tomb raider and mad max at 700k? mad max is cracked. Why is cracked mgs v at 900k?
Or adrift with 16k sales.
Pathetic really. Where are all those millions of sales they said they lost? They went to dying light and fallout 4 instead.
The old version of Arkham Knight was crackedt no the new that released in October 2015. It was the worst pc version of the century and Lords of the fallen was a unkown game from a very small developer. You can not except that a crappy pc version to sell well or a small indie game from a uknown developer. These 2 games are he exception of the rulers. But let see when fallout 5 and Dying Light 2 release with denuvo how much they will sell compared to fallout 4 and dying light?
dying light and fallout 4 got millions of sales while cracked, you could argue it makes sense with fallout or gta v but dying light? Dying light is not a great game but the devs bothered to give back to their consumers, optimize it, patch, mod tools, gog version.
If you take a look at the games that sold you will find out that far cry 3 sold millions far cry 4 not so much and primal sold horribly. If you take a look at open world games you will see partially cracked mgsv sold almost a milion, followed by cracked mad max and uncracked tomb raider with the over advertized in youtube just cause 3 who is stuck at 500k. the awful port that is arkham knight is not far behind, yet it was cracked, how com no one bought it?
Then there is a dr1ft with pathetic 10k sales or something.
There is no proof that piracy hurts sales.
*Everything* gets cracked eventually.
And what does the publisher win? There have been uncracked games in the past, such as Hawx 2. Noone even remembers that franchise existed now.
hawx 2 was eventually cracked, no one cared.
The first game was pretty good but after that…
until Microsoft or some other say “yeah, Denuvo is no longer compatible with our OS, go buy your games again, lol”
Was it worthy to stop pirates for pirating their games if there is no increase in sales? Or to reformulate the question, do publishers think their game would be worse sales wise without denuvo?
i thinkl in case of copy protections they dont care about the hypotetical sale increase numbers … but the torrent download numbers … so yeah for them its worth it and the poor kids who makes most of the pirates will just find another way (like sharing acounts and such ) … I even saw a site selling D-games activations for couple bucks … and becaouse of how this “DRM” works the activation works only for couple days
I believe that Denuvo’s intention isn’t really to increase sales, but to prevent people from playing the games illegally. Apart from instilling a sense of security in the developer / publisher. Most habitual pirates simply won’t play the game at all if they can’t pirate it, as opposed to going to a store and buying it. Over the long term though, you might get a few sales from those who really want to play the game eventually.
pretty much but does the long term pay for the drm maintenance? I doubt it. at 10 bucks you dont even pay for the distribution service you buy it from 😀
That’s not really for consumers to judge. As long as it’s not illegal, it’s fine.
How do you know there is no increase in sales? They sure wont go down and some people will buy the game because it can’t be pirated, now or little bit later.
“How do you know there is no increase in sales? ”
I don’t, correct me if i’m wrong plz.
Whereas others won’t ever touch it, by comparison, so sale won, sale lost.
Granted there’s no real, definitive way of absolutely decreeing whether or not Denuvo is good or bad for sales overall without some kind of near-identical Mirror Universe that doesn’t have Denuvo with which to compare results, but we can most definitely, absolutely, conclusively mock the sh*t out of the Industry’s long-standing whinefest over their moronic belief that “Piracy takes away millions of sales!” if nothing else.
So, yeah, win/loss.
dont you know that one torrented copy = one lost sale?
Even if it is the same person downloading multiple times to get it to work 😀
EXACTLY i want to make the moronic industry and the console gamers both of those clueless moron use piracy as an argument to everything. Game does not sell, MUST BE PIRACY.
lords of the fallen 405,235 cracked
batman arkham knight 552,424 cracked
mad max 775,233 cracked
metal gear v 953,761 partially cracked
just cause 3 : 567,392 uncracked
rise of the tomb raider 735,162 735,162 uncracked
far cry primal 156,076 uncracked
hitman 189,754 uncracked
ar1ft 16,372 uncracked
Meanwhile older cracked games
far cry 3 2,776,775
far cry 4 702,574
dying light 1,398,912
fallout 4 3,167,198
gta v 4,437,320
There is no correlation between piracy and game sales
What is the point of comparing different games that will sell different amounts anyway? Many games require or benefit from having a legal copy, some are old so people will pay that 10-20 dollars instead of 50 or 60 -> more sales in the long run. Getting rid of the option to not pay for a product will increase sales. The question is not if but how much, which isn’t that much but it still is.
Pretty much.
lords of the fallen 405,235 cracked
batman arkham knight 552,424 cracked
mad max 775,233 cracked
metal gear v 953,761 partially cracked
just cause 3 : 567,392 uncracked
rise of the tomb raider 735,162 735,162 uncracked
far cry primal 156,076 uncracked
hitman 189,754 uncracked
ar1ft 16,372 uncracked
Meanwhile older cracked games
far cry 3 2,776,775
far cry 4 702,574
dying light 1,398,912
fallout 4 3,167,198
gta v 4,437,320
There is no correlation between piracy and game sales
That will be a more interesting article instead of “hey denuvo has kept games uncrackable”
No sht but what are the affects of that? As for the perfomance we have no idea wherever games perform better without denuvo since even the cracked ones use denuvo, Obviously with such complex drm there would be a performance loss but that is besides the point, the point is that they bother using this drm and maintaining via updates instead of bothering optimizing and patching up their games. Arkham knight is still a mess it is not getting sales because it has denuvo. The licensing cost is pretty high the “extra” sales they got, barely justify the licensing costs and the drm maintenance, now they dont have an excuse for bad games or awful pc ports not selling. But they still wont make demos.
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Never gets old 😀
BIGGEST mistake people however do is buying from Steam who charges 30 %. Look up cheap STEAM CD KEY SELLERS, LOOK at all those 20 bucks cheaper games immediatly?! Yeah there you have it.
Love the inclusion of online-only MP-only titles in the list 😀 Wonder on what will they blame bad sales now
Fine, but it’s not going to increase sales like people think and a lot of these games haven’t even sold that well as expected, since a lot of the marketing goes on consoles like Doom did.
i dunno baout that man..ive been buying all my games since denuvo came out. so on my part, it has def increased sales.
It’s not all about you though.
And how really run in one particular rig…
Same for pc since September 2015 i sarted bying them(mad max metal gear 5 far cry primal just cause 3 doom) thanks to denuvo. for the rest of the year i have to buy mirror edge catalyst deus ex mankid divided dishonored 2 battlefield 1. So at least you and me started bying the games thanks to it but we are not the only ones many other people started doing the same
if you started buying games because you cant pirate while you have the money to buy them and do enjoy those games, then there is something wrong in your way of thinking, you are like a child that will refuse to do the right thing unless someone forces him to do it.
i am Shredder leader of the foot ninjas one of the most powerful crime organizations in the world. Do you expect a criminal like me to do the right thing if there is not any serious reason to do it? As THE SHREDDER evrything ido must be illegal bad and terrible! Must cause pain to the people! MUHAHAHHAHHAHA
lords of the fallen 405,235 cracked
batman arkham knight 552,424 cracked
mad max 775,233 cracked
metal gear v 953,761 partially cracked
just cause 3 : 567,392 uncracked
rise of the tomb raider 735,162 735,162 uncracked
far cry primal 156,076 uncracked
hitman 189,754 uncracked
ar1ft 16,372 uncracked
Meanwhile older cracked games
far cry 3 2,776,775
far cry 4 702,574
dying light 1,398,912
fallout 4 3,167,198
gta v 4,437,320
There is no correlation between piracy and game sales
Well you are a re*ard. a moron and a troll, f**k off.
thx for article Denuvo marketing team 😉
Not so much. Wouldnt play that psycho game Rise of Tomb Raider even if it was for free. Real misandric pigs that made that game.
Could you elaborate on the feminazi propaganda of Rise of Tomb Raider?
No need to. We WON, they LOST! As for the future? I hope they fire Rihanna Pratchett immediatly because its time to make Lara femine again instead for some insane radical feminist (Make gaming great again! or something) also give her her classic outfit back you hear! It was an intresting piece they made on Rise in Pcgamer in “best and worst of the week” and why the reviewer called it the the worst of the week.
all the losers say that
He shuts the f..k up now. Ignore that lowlife loser.
There isnt any Feminazi BS in this game.
Yes, the boobs are smaller and she has no sexy costumes, but shes not screaming Girl power or hating males like in supergirl TV for example.
Talking about feminazi and with that profile pic. Lol
Usa today in a nutshell
He wasn’t the one stubbornly finding “feminazi” everywhere (like buffoons thinking that if a tit is smaller than head, it’s FEMINIST PROPAGANDA), though.
Cause and Effect, Cause and Effect
I understand, but sometimes propaganda can be subtle.
Nothing subtle about 2013 reboot and Rise of evil. What a blatant message: KILL all men. Sales numbers proves it too nobody wants insane femin@zis.
2013 reboot sold well after being released to all platforms in existence.
u mean where free giveaways on xbox and ps3 counted as sales or the number of times its been for sale for 5 bucks??!! Cute way of whitewashing salesnumber PAL!
How many women does she kill?
How is this relevant? How many women work for PMCs?
How many women fight on the front lines in any non Israeli or PKK military?
kick a*s action women are overrepresented in fantasy, that’s true.
I think that in part is the issue. Imagine the roll reversal. If it was a guy just killing leagues of women. There would be unforetold amounts of rage and hysteria. In today’s society it’s okay to have misandric ideas in games and in life because men are viewed as disposable.
As far as violence goes, we have only ourselves to blame, military and war been mans jobs since the stone age.
Its excatlly the same issue with under age sex, when 24 years hot teacher has sex with 13 years old boy, most men cheer him up, when its other way around we call the men a pedophile and a rapist.
We have only ourselves to blame, in both cases we are responsible for this perception of reality.
By We* you mean feminists.
By we i mean Real Men.
You a man? Please!
Dont talk to that weirdo, she is insane.
If there was a role reversal, it wouldn’t really make any sense. Militant groups are never made up of women. 99% of the time they’re made up of men. Ofcourse Lara goes around killing men.
Infact that’s how it’s been in the majority of action games for a long time ! In most shooter campaigns, you kill men exclusively, or atleast 90% men.
Literally the only difference here is that you play as a woman instead of a man. So by the stupid logic that Johanna_LX is parroting, we should have women enemies just because the protagonist is female ?
If it wasn’t a problem with a male protagonist, why is it a problem now ? It’s a non-issue. The devs don’t care about it. You’re the ones bringing up some sexism issue where there is none. You’re doing the exact same thing SJWs do, bring up non-sensical issues where there are none.
Clearly you never met a flock of feminists.
he’s a trumpkin that probably listens to rooshv, i.e. a blistering imbecile
Play HATRED from Destructive creations with femin@azi mod mode on, its fantastic!
How is that relevant goof ball?
How old are you you stupid little girl? You must be a short and fat ugly girl with glasses. Right? Or something close to it
Yes but she refuses to answer. I wonder why…..
Seems like you need glasses!
Do you wear glasses? I like girls wtih glasses!
Nope just broke glasses for femin@zis, subhuman ugly scum. I gelt good about it too.
don´t worry Johanna i have played tomb raider since i was litle kid,it influenced my life a lot,it gave the pleasure of learning history,it helped with school,my favorite is tomb raider 2,it was amizing and adictive and yes lara kills woman to
I dont look like Rihanna Pratchett, but thanks anyway!
are you serious? trying to provoke a girl,chill out dude
Why wouldnt that be relevant in a sudden?
Your mom called, says if you wont turn off your PC now shell cut your internet.
I pay my internet and you dear?
Using your lunch money?
No such thing as lunch money where I come from pal.
Syria?
No Europe.
come on people,can´t we just have some good chat about the topic ,instead of trying to get discussions to stupid ways?
bioshock and thief had female enemies, just saying.
Not a single one.
you are wrong,you should check legend
Thank you, we had enough of your BS now. We won, you LOST!
Even Doom for 14 hours of singleplay dont worth it.
Doom gave us great ideas in handling femin@azis, just melee attack those crazies!
Oh please, stop with that non-sense.
You kill men exclusively in the vast majority of shooters/action games. If not exclusively men, then mostly men. This is, ofcourse, for obvious reasons. Militant groups, military, soldiers are men most of the time. Games echo this.
So you have no problem with, say, Battlefield 3’s campaign, in which you shoot down 1000s of men (didn’t see a woman as far as I remember). But if the protagonist is a woman, all of a sudden it’s a misandric game ?
Think about that for a moment and be honest – it’s bullshit. You’re imagining issues where there are none. The only difference between this game and others is that Lara is a female. How on earth does that make any difference ? If killing men is fine in almost every other game, why is it bad here ?
Look, SJWs make retarded arguments at times, but sometimes those on the other side make retarded arguments too. I cringe every time I read your posts about Tomb Raider; the logic is just so bad.
The funny thing is, if Lara had huge boobs and was wearing tight shorts or something, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be making these arguments.
I repeat: I would NEVER play Rise of evil even if it was free. Its psychopathic propaganda for femin@azis that hates men. In the end the game was a total bomb so WE won and femin@azis lost.
“Real misandric pigs”
somebody needs to get of of reddit or RoK for a while, cause you’re seeing feminazi’s everywhere
LOL
Pretty much.
lords of the fallen 405,235 cracked
batman arkham knight 552,424 cracked
mad max 775,233 cracked
metal gear v 953,761 partially cracked
just cause 3 : 567,392 uncracked
rise of the tomb raider 735,162 735,162 uncracked
far cry primal 156,076 uncracked
hitman 189,754 uncracked
ar1ft 16,372 uncracked
Meanwhile older cracked games
far cry 3 2,776,775
far cry 4 702,574
dying light 1,398,912
fallout 4 3,167,198
gta v 4,437,320
There is no correlation between piracy and game sales
That will be a more interesting article instead of “hey denuvo has kept games uncrackable”
No sht but what are the affects of that? As for the perfomance we have no idea wherever games perform better without denuvo since even the cracked ones use denuvo, Obviously with such complex drm there would be a performance loss but that is besides the point, the point is that they bother using this drm and maintaining via updates instead of bothering optimizing and patching up their games. Arkham knight is still a mess it is not getting sales because it has denuvo. The licensing cost is pretty high the “extra” sales they got, barely justify the licensing costs and the drm maintenance, now they dont have an excuse for bad games or awful pc ports not selling. But they still wont make demos.
maybe denuvo’s purpose is protecting the games from selling after all :v
do you realise that most of your mentioned games were already on sale, right?
So true.
If someone enter on Steamdb and search any of these games will find that many of them sells only 500-700k copies.
Doom – 500k
JC 3 – 500k
Tomb Raider – 700k
Mad Max – 700k
Batman: Arkham Knight – 500k
Hitman – 180k
Total War: Warhammer – 580k
So where is the savivor of the nation named Denuvo???Why millions of people dont buy these games?
Because pirates?Great logic. 😉
die pirate fgt
Your name is a shame for your country.
Denuvo is good for gaming as it keeps cheaters away, also games have become cheaper.
How on earth games become cheaper thanks to denuvo? That is not how game sales work, if a game sucks and no one buys it then it becomes cheap.
What Denuvo in Dark Souls are you talking about? Are you high on LSD?
battlefront has cheaters
You sure about that? Anyway I dont care about that game, too much bad press.
Denuvo does prevent games from getting cracked but it still does not guarantee high sales.
That has more to do with the game than Denuvo itself.
Those games are POWERED by denuvo? So denuvo gives them power to run better or something? I don’t get this choice of words at all.
Anyway, I’m never going to support publishers who consider almost all people playing games on PCs software “pirates” without giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Because that’s what they’re doing by implementing these costly security measures.
And I’m not paying for that for sure.
So no sale whatsoever from me.
You can stick your silly computer games where Sun doesn’t shine, my “dear” publishers.
It’s not like our society would collapse without them, is it…
Probably the exact opposite, millions of people would start doing something more useful than “killing” their precious time by sitting in front of large displays slowly damaging their mental and physical health by playing numbing violent shooters etc.
So in conclusion please implement these “you’re a thief even if you buy our product” technologies into more games.
It will benefit society in general.
You can start to play F2P games then.
Warframe and Path of Exile are quite good as far as F2P goes.
Only reason Star Wars Battlefront isnt there is because evil money greedy EA made it.
I am principled i wont give money to konami but buying the game at 10 bucks from a serial key site means they dont get jack.
Well, thanks to Denuvo, Publishers cant blame piracy for low sales, thats good. What is bad, is we are on 2016 and demos are looking like alien technology.
Ye, i don’t buy games now unless i’m 100% sure a want it, or it’s on a realllllllllly cheap sale on steam.
Demos have sadly perished.
They should blame PC platform for being a really open platform with hundreds of thousands of options (including piracy of games pre-denuvo and free emulation :^)
If you want to demo a game on 2016 you can rent it for 2 hours in steam.
He ask about a proper Demo
True that. If you rent games from Steam for longer than 1 hour 59 minutes, you will be cut off.
I know, but a true demo is better.
They dont want to make true demos because they think a potentional customer wont buy because they tested said demo.
Thats was around 2013? Yeah they have changed their attitude towards demos since then.
you can get banned from refunding quite fast if you do that
exactly denuvo might stopped piracy but sales are not increasing.
lords of the fallen 405,235 cracked
batman arkham knight 552,424 cracked
mad max 775,233 cracked
metal gear v 953,761 partially cracked
just cause 3 : 567,392 uncracked
rise of the tomb raider 735,162 735,162 uncracked
far cry primal 156,076 uncracked
hitman 189,754 uncracked
ar1ft 16,372 uncracked
Meanwhile older cracked games
far cry 3 2,776,775
far cry 4 702,574
dying light 1,398,912
fallout 4 3,167,198
gta v 4,437,320
There is no correlation between piracy and game sales
You know in the past their argument for no demos was “but the pirates will use the exe to make cracks” Now they dont have anything.
Quite a few bad games on that list though.
Only Homefront: The Revolution.
Maybe for you, I can see loads on this list.
You are so stupid.
Only a stupid person would think that Homefront: The Revolution is a good game, lol.
They said they are going to fix the bugs.
Denuvo has potential to be good but only in the right hands. Denuvo games are not necessarily infested with greed, but most of them are and it is not a coincidence. from the lack of budget for a good porting team to plain simple Microtransaction.
now compare it to games with DRM free versions that usually get great free updates as well. Dying Light. Witcher 1,2,3. Divinity Original Sin. Oxenfree etc. the publishers of these games know that there is also a DRM free version of their games and they want to appeal to everyone.
i can be wrong but i rather support what CDPR is doing with GoG whenever possible than taking my chances with trusting greedy publishers. doesn’t mean i am gonna miss out on quality games locked behind Denuvo, but i will certainly support DRM free games faster and easier.
also i made a similar post but it was either deleted or it is still on-hold for approval or w/e. this is a shorter version of that. ain’t gonna bother writing about the matter more than i already have at least for now. just wanted to share my opinion.
FIFA 15 Playable
Lords of the Fallen cracked
Dragon Age: Inquisition cracked
Battlefield: Hardline cracked
Batman: Arkham Knight cracked
Mad Max cracked
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain cracked
FIFA 16
Anno 2205
Star Wars Battlefront
Just Cause 3
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Unravel
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2
Far Cry Primal
Hitman
Need for Speed
EVE: Gunjack
ADR1FT
The Climb
DOOM
Homefront: The Revolution
Total War: Warhammer
……………………………………………………………………….To be continued
Whats unravel, unjack and the climb ? Must be some true hidden gems as i have never heard about them! Action, rts, adventure ?
why crack MP games?
There’s some way to play in “cracked” servers?
Have heard of it on DSouls3
If Naughty Dog tomorrow announced that all their games are coming to PC with Denuvo protection, would some of you still be so catty?! Or if R* announced RDR remastered ?
Since when did Naughty Dog start making video games?
Since 1990:s
I thought they only made boring animations, my bad
Better not tell console owners that, they might start some sh**. LOL!
Well Naughty Dog is one of the few game devs that i actually trust to make a good quality game that i know i’ll enjoy.
Er, if people wants Naughty Dog games them they buy a PS3 or PS4 (and pirate if possible)
Dont be such a hypocrite! If “The last of US” was announced tomorrow you would pre-order it!
I said IF: Bet you pre-order The Last of US asap!
no
Stop lying to yourself!
I’ve honestly never had a problem with Denuvo. It’s transparent enough that I didn’t even know that MGSV had it until reading this article, and I got through Dragon Age Inquisition with no performance issues whatsoever. It seems to work without inconveniencing paying customers in any way, so I don’t see where all the hate comes from (apart from back when everyone thought that it killed SSDs, that was understandable.)
From clueless and obvious paranoid idiots as I have never seen a performance issue with Denuvo, just one drawback is modding as it affects the exe file, then it cant be done. Lets hope they can fix it.
Defiately not Doom 4, thats one gives close to 150 fps.
There is not a way to confirm wherever it hurts performance since even cracked games use denuvo the part wit the ssd is nonsense though.
I think it is a perfect drm but i love mocking all those idiots that thought piracy is ruining pc sales and if games were uncrackable the sales would skyrocket they have not.
True, any software running in addition to the core game will add some overhead.
Having said that, MGSV is one of the best optimized and best looking games I’ve ever seen, so I highly doubt that it’s crippling, or even noticable.
I don’t buy DRM games anymore let alone DRM like Denuvo. All they protect themselves from is receiving my money. Their loss not mine.
Play F2P games then and stop moaning.
Why limit myself to F2P games ? While some F2P games interest me such as
visual novels over on itch.io I don’t play many F2P games. If you think
that by not buying games with DRM I have no options sorry to
dissappoint but I am swimming in options. I have over 130 games on my
backlog all DRM free not to mention almost 100 games on my wishlist of
DRM free games.
A GOG game buyer in other words.
I purchase from GOG, IndieGameStand, itch.io, Gamersgate, Humble Store, they all offer DRM free options.
3DM isn’t a scene group.
Only bad thing I heard about Denuvo is that you cant mod the game if it needs the exe file, if a modder dont need the exe file you can mod as much as you want.
They promised that? Well non Denuvo Black Ops 3 promised us modding tools which we havent seen yet.
Blesch. I hate these stupid pro-DRM-articles.
well with all the money they got from these huge publishers i am pretty sure their marketing can affort such clickbait articles
Yeah, as if pirating out of spite ever helped anything.
Im pirating them twice now
metal gear solid v was pirated like crazy including with all DLC’s and all updates to date same goes on mad max
These games used the old version of denuvo that got cracked not the current one
and they sold better than the games that came after them. Also no mgs v is not cracked with all dlc and updates.
“Protected”
C’mon John.
Also repeating the “anti-tamper” PR bs (it’s DRM guys).
This isn’t the first Denuvo advertisement I’ve seen on this site, something’s fishy.
This isn’t advertisement though. :v
sure as heck sounds like it, “so denuvo keeps games uncrackable”
no sht, but what are the results of that? Are sales increasing? This would be a better article than this CAPTAIN OBVIOUS drm shilling.
Denuvo IS keeping games uncrackable, it is a fact and this is a report on that.
I’m not a fan of some words used on the article and the fact that a GOG Connect article/report is nowhere to be seen, but this HURR DURR DRM SHILLS” is downright idiotic.
Drm has been keeping games uncrackable for a while now, that is not “news” that is drm shilling. Does the drm increase sales? What are the costs of the drm and how it works, for example it requires maintenance via updates. Is this a viable tactic for the future?
That those games are not cracked is something we know about, that the sales dont seem to be affected is something we dont. One requires research the other is just drm marketing.
Oh for f*ck’s sake, this is just a report, obvious thing to report or not, it’s not saying anything about sales, costs or anything out of the ordinary.
The way I see:
“This is a uncrackabe thing being used, and these are the games that are making use of this thing. This thing wasn’t affecting performance as it was made out to be. PC games are being protected(*)”
(*) part I didn’t like
The way people are making out to be:
“This is a awesome uncrackabe thing being used, and these are the games that are making use of this awesome thing. This thing is awesome and every PC game should use it.”
It is, and it’s their 3rd.
-.-
There’s really no reasoning with you guys.
They are cheering for an anti consumer move for the thrid time, what reasoning dude ? it’s either clickbait or just straight up marketing, there is no benefit for such thing for users or consumers, you know the rest better than me.
I see nothing but a bad worded report.
Maybe the first one was a bad worded report, second one was just exactly the same, and this is exactly like the other two, what’s the point ? it’s not even news or news worthy, it’s just clickbait or paid promotion.
I give up.
😀 i won
Only butthurt pirates are complaining about Denuvo 🙂
great to see pirates getting screwed.. lol
Does not increase sales though, so who exactly is screwed here when you still dont get their money but you paying for a drm to make them give you their money?
the thing about denuvo is, it doesnt actually harm paying customers at all…. it only f’s over pirates, and pirates are the only ones pissed about it. personally i buy my games so i dont give a f’ about denuvo right now
yeah like expiring of the licence with just connecting 2nd scree while offline
Pretty much but it does not increase sales, which proves the industry is wrong, piracy does not affect pc sales because they are not part of the market.
“it doesnt actually harm paying customers at all”
It does. it limits your offline play and might have performance impacts and keeps unwanted files on your PC.
“The only scene group that was able to crack some older versions of Denuvo was 3DM”
Actually,CPY manage to crack some too… and we have another that cracked copy protection that was “uncracked” for year and half,so no,Denuvo won’t stay uncracked forever.
I haven’t had any problems with Denuvo.
Please, enlighten me and tell: where are they?
So I can go with the bandwagon and sh*t on it, too.
I didn’t even realize Doom and Need for Speed had Denuvo. Those games ran great on my system.
One day all this games will be cracked at once and it will be a glorious christmas for Pirates,
why are you using ssd’d for gaming knowing that that drm kills them.isnt the pc way to just put the os on a ssd and play games from the other harddrive?
How many Denuvo games does it take to kill a SSD? My SSD is 3 years old and it survived 6 Denuvo games.
its other people have been saying Denuvo games have been killing.i personally dont own a ssd i wont pay that amount for a 150gb ssd. not worth it for me to win 10 on when it boots up fast enough.
i though ssd’s you were just supposed to put just the os on
Hes f**king with you.
Heh yeah, at first I read it and kept scratching my head. Then I realized he had a sense of humor!
Some troll or masochistic weirdo that likes playing as a woman and mass murder men. Its very simple.
Seems its also protected pc games from achieving good framerates.
half the games with denuvo play great, hardly conclusive at all.
If all the companies release a DRM free version of their games after 2 years then I am fine with all this. Otherwise every game that uses denuvo if it remains uncracked will be scrapped away just like the GFWL and SecuroRom ones. Even the cracked versions of these still don’t work most of the time, so if denuvo stays relevant then the games are going to become irrelevant.
Also Deus ex mankind divided Dishonored 2 Mass effect andromeda Titanfall 2 Watch dogs2 Ghost recon wild lands Assasin Creed(2017) and all EA, Bethesda WB Ubisoft Konami Sega Deep silver games from now on.
konami and sega make games?
There is no assasin creed coming out any time soon and wont sell either, wild lands might as well have online drm, MIGHT AS WELL, i did not say it has.
Assasin creed is coming in fall 2017 so one year and a half from now. All Ubisoft games are using denuvo starting with Far Cry Primal.
EVEN IF it really has no performance hit, for which you provided no actual proof (assembly code deep, deep analysis or comparison of Denuvo-enabled with Denuvo-disabled build), you can’t deny the negative influence it made on mods.
Total War: Warhammer is a pretty crappy game, considering that it runs poorly and its devs flat-out lied to us about it: they claimed that they had finally optimized game for multicore CPUs but the game is still all about a single core.
haha…
Yeah you download and then you delete and a few years again you download again, you see according to corporate shills like you this is “multiple lost sales”
When in reality, it is nothing.
Me? A corporate shill? Are you sure you’re not confusing me for someone else? I’ve never spoken for or against Denuvo in this discussion… yet. You’re most likely responding to me by mistake. If not, you’re just asking for trouble.
What for? It does not increase sales
lords of the fallen 405,235 cracked
batman arkham knight 552,424 cracked
mad max 775,233 cracked
metal gear v 953,761 partially cracked
just cause 3 : 567,392 uncracked
rise of the tomb raider 735,162 735,162 uncracked
far cry primal 156,076 uncracked
hitman 189,754 uncracked
ar1ft 16,372 uncracked
Meanwhile older cracked games
far cry 3 2,776,775
far cry 4 702,574
dying light 1,398,912
fallout 4 3,167,198
gta v 4,437,320
There is no correlation between piracy and game sales
Also those cheap fcks you talking about live in third world countries they CANT but those games thereorfe there wont be any sale increases, if all games use denuvo including indie games that means a monopoly which is bad. They can extort devs.
holy!%@# tomb raider! whats your secret!
I simply will not buy any game using this, All are connecteI to store clients, I don’t give a damn about whether they are pirated or not, I care about modding, I became a legal gamer for modding.
So all this achieves for me, is another walled garden, whose entry fee I refuse to pay.
I stopped using consoles when Exclusives ransoming of games occurred.
I stopped using Store Clients, because they mess with mods, Workshop is awful.
I use and only buy games with an offline installer, that’s almost exclusively GOG releases, and DRM free, and though it may be counter intuitive, I never try to pirate GOG games.
As an ex pirate I know DRM never got me to buy a single game, I played DRM free.
It was never about the price for me, I started pirating in 2005 when I had a new single core PC, and AAA went dual core. The games I could play were easier to obtain online, and torrents were my only option.
Modding was what changed me into a customer, not DRM.
As a paying customer I know DRM free did get me to buy lots of games, and not having to use a store client, has become more and more important.
I discovered GOG in December 2013, now my GOG library is 224 games
My Steam library now shrinks as my GOG library increases, each game released on GOG gets bought, I’d gift the Steam keys if I could, but must remove it with no other choice.
If I had the disc, I could give it away, this is how they treat a paying customer, like shit.
Today GOG started GOG content, own a game on Steam, get it on GOG for free.
You buy the game once, you get it on both sites. it’s restricted to deals they must make with publishers, but it’s still giving you DRM/Client free access to games you already own.
GOG know how to treat paying customers, No DRM, optional client and an offline installer.
Modding is best on such a base package, just what I want.
I choose to buy from GOG, not because I’m forced to buy exclusives, locked to a store client I don’t need or want, but because they earn my trust and respect, I will never upload a GOG release.
The only way to change bad business practises, is to refuse to buy the products.
If only you do it, it’s still changed for you.
When as few as 10% of gamers act in unison, they remove the profit, and the company loses money, and changes the bad behavior.
Paid mods, Arkham Knight, and “Augment your preorder”, all failed, not because gamers raged online, but because the companies lost money, all profit vanished.
Gamers raged against Konami, but FucKonami failed, because the raging, ended in purchases of Metal Gear. The company made a profit, and gamers were the ones getting shafted. Konami laughed and took your money, more like SucKonami, in my opinion.
So vote with your wallet, if enough gamers vote the same way, everything will change.
Rage while paying, and the company will bend you over, and you better open that mouth for the shaft heading your way, you are getting what you paid for.
It’s pretty funny the amount of disinfo made up by pirates against denuvo with literally no proof and people still believe it to this day and spam it in forums everywhere. If you use steam and boycott denuvo games you are a hypocrite they pretty much identical drm for the end user.
well the disinfo from wannabe pirates is no more trusthworty than the marketing message from Denuvo itself …. especially when the company is created by the beatifull minds who created securom rootkit not that long ago … and FYI no securom game is playable without a hassle on Win10
Personally I think most piracy will come from people who can’t afford the games or don’t want to pay the cost at which the games they want to play are set. I used to buy the games I most wanted and pirate the rest, but thanks to Steam sales, a decent paying job and the fact I find most triple-A titles unappealing now (disappointing how much focus there is on co-op and multiplayer…), every game I have played over the last few years has been a legit copy I have bought.
Now that they have unpirateable games being sold on digital platforms – i.e. games that people can’t resell or return after the 2-hour play period – hopefully they will focus more on the PC and stop taking time and effort away from the single-player component of games to shoehorn multiplayer in (something they apparently do to try and convince gamers not to resell their games.) Probably not, but I can dream.
Most of them I find it to be bad games,so please keep protecting bad games.
Good news as it can only help the PC community and thus the future of PC games.
Not this Cr*p again, Are you not tired of cupping the balls John??
Media seems to love giving that DRM system a nice handjob these days, while also refusing to absolutely hammer home proper data facts on if it does/doesn’t affect performance, all we get is “it shouldn’t because X game is optimized” instead of actually going to great lengths to prove that it never will, of course media won’t do this because it never benefits them.
Denuvo may have dimished piracy but they sure as hell don’t increase sales. People who buy games are people who always planned on buying the game in the first place. Crackers aren’t gonna go out of their way to buy a game just because of denuvo. Many people who pirate have legitimate reasons for pirating such as not being able to afford it especially with gaming prices skyrocketing so much. Wanna increase sales, stop charging nearly $100 for a games that can be finished in a day or 2.
i-its not like I wanted to play those games anyway, ill just pirate fallout 4
No mention of sales at all. That was developers claim isn’t it? That piracy brought down sales. Yet sales have no magically gone up because people don’t pirate games.
They just don’t buy them and carry on. Which is actually a negative because pirated usually gave publicity to the games that they played.
Carry on tho, keep putting DRMs that use 15-20% of the game’s requirements and don’t increase sales.
This.
Didn’t buy the new TR. Why?
New lara is this feminist wannabe = vomit
Denuvo is my 2nd reason.
I am boycotting everything with that garbage on it on principle. It may be world of warcraft 2 and I will still not buy it.
DRM needs to accept it and DIE already.
Once people stop stealing games, DRM won’t be needed.
And if you believe that I got this bridge over the Atlantic to sell you…
How come all denuvo games have not seen an increase in sales?
Surely.if they cannot hack they will buy them…right?
Unless it was all BULLSHIT from thst start so they can install spyware on your PC.
Man, it’s simple – if DOOM 3 had 80%+ piracy rate, of course they will try to protect their games. If it had 25% or less, no one would care that much. No one wants to lose money – and they are losing a ton. I saw with my own eyes that many pirates didn’t want to wait and alas they bought the title. Sure – on some shady cdkey sites, but they did.
Supposedly thr chinese guys havking games will stop for 1 year to see if sales rise.
We’ll see who is right then.
My hunch is thise who could not afford the game were the majority of pirates and they will simply change their hobby.
This ehole fapping hard to denuvo reminds me of people who cheer for politicians who chant “hate the poor”.
Seriously? Playing video games should be constitutional right for everyone now? Have the poor the right to steal? They definitely have right to buy what they want with little money they have. Some even buy things with money WE – working people provide for them, if they happen to be jobless at the moment.
I am ok with Denuvo, because it’s fair. I get content, I should pay for content. What I am not ok is pricing policy. Big markets like Russia get discounted prices, while rest of the poorer regions get to pay 60 dolls for new AAA title? Now – if companies fixed prices accordingly to the salaries in the countries which difer a lot across borders, then I’d have no problems at all. The games are pricey in some countries only because sales managers want to go with the model “smaller markets, few buyers, let’s milk those who buy” rather than fixing the pricing policy in the first place, so everyone interested could buy a copy.
Your problem is perception. But i won’t bother explaining this here.
Agreed with your last point though. Do that and piracy won’t be needed.
If i pay 3 months of my internet bill for ONE game you can bet i’ll support pirates who fight this unfairness.
right is when studios and publishers start to give us demos,and good games again,it will stop,do you think that i would spend an stupid amont of money for a game that i will ,leave at side and never play again?
yes right,at least i could try those shity games ,and not spending money on useless crap
Funny, how only 3 of those games weren’t disasters at launch.
You are Disgusting DSOG. how much they paid you for marketing ?
yeap you are an amizing person ! continue like that XD