While a lot of gamers hate the Denuvo anti-tamper tech, it appears that it was a wise decision – for 2K Games and Gearbox – to use it in Borderlands 3. Borderlands 3 came out almost a month ago, and even though it’s a game that a lot of pirates would want to get their hands on, it has not been cracked.
Borderlands 3 came out exclusively on Epic Games Store on September 13th. My guess is that this new looter shooter is using the latest version of Denuvo. I’m not certain, but this is the most likely scenario. As such CODE VEIN, which has already been cracked, is most likely using an older version of this anti-tamper tech.
What’s also interesting here is that Anno 1800 is still safe. This strategy game came out almost six months ago, and none of the gaming cracking scene groups was able to crack it. It’s been a while since we last saw a game that hasn’t been cracked for over five months.
Another game that the scene groups have not been able to crack is Mortal Kombat 11. Mortal Kombat 11 came out on April 23rd, meaning that it is getting close to Anno 1800’s record. It’s also interesting noting that other fighting games – that obviously do not use Denuvo – have already been cracked, so there is a “pirate” demand for this type of games.
Now obviously, Anno 1800 and Mortal Kombat 11 use an older version of Denuvo. Still, it’s pretty… interesting witnessing these games for which Denuvo has managed to secure their sales.
Last but not least, F1 2019 and eFootball Pro Evolution Soccer 2020 are also safe from pirates. FIFA 20 is also still protected, though this game came out two weeks ago.
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FIFA 16 still not cracked until now, its been 4 year
Actually it was finally cracked.
Might be because nobody wants to crack them, and the fans love sucking their masters’ D.
Nobody cares about cracking garbage yearly soccer games…
Preach.
I like the free beer / Whiskey the casino gives me when i play pocker or black jack. I don’t have to pay a fee to enter the casino nor do i have to pay an extra free to play neither.
How do you like your 60 entry, mandatory 60 annual scam fee to able to play online + whatever is the sum of the cut out content they sell you back every year for a re skin of the same game.
Yet you don’t get free beer nor whiskey.
Excellent!
Really happy to see that Borderlands 3 has been protected for so long considering the huge demand from pirates.
No i just dont want a keyloger…..
see epic is one thing but, borderlands 3 constantly contacts denuvo to authenticate your copy, some streamer couldnt stream it because of the constant internet use.
God bless denuvo and to hell with scum pirates who are too poor to buy games.
Nothing to do with people being “Poor” lol. Go back to you Xboxlive.
He’s a Sony fanboy so that’ll no doubt sting, lol!
It’s not money, but instead stupid arrogance and hopping on the bandwagon against Epic (or whoever pissed them off this week).
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Spoken like the true console peasant you admittedly are.
10/10
Nice improvement
Hahahahah, Fernando never lets us down.
I’m surprised he’s not yet posted using his Don Quixote sock account.
Yeah his, “Squirrel Brain” Account.
Yup!
Hey Robo How Ya Been?… I see you’ve evolved from “excellent”, to full blown sentences. Man, you’re one impressive piece of Tech. Timmy Tencent must be proud. Awesome Man…
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huge demand? For a coop looter shooter?
You haven’t sent me the Shill application for the company you work for. I need the money man!
I specialize on Naming the Jews and Pissing off low IQ fanboys. I know you know the company is hiring help a bother out. I’ll have your back and you’ll have mine, will have to be discreet though.
LMAO, DEAD!!! ???
you are wrong! beyond your personal judgment on the quality of these two games, it is certain that the pirate groups have tried, and still continue to try to crack these games …. your theory has no sense, according to which,for example, Borderands 3 has not been cracked yet because pirate groups are not interested! pure madness! simply the game implements a version of DRM that is difficult to bypass.
Sure the way Denuvo is implemented clearly will impact the time it takes to crack, but anyone expecting B3 to be cracked while the “official release” is riddled with problems (even the console version) is just naive.
Why bother to crack a game that is barely playable in the “official build” and that any updates that would improve the overall experience would deem cracking necessary again ?
But according to your “theory ” Handball 17 must have an special version of Denuvo since it has been years that is still uncracked.
And… You don’t want HOODLUM cRACk it. Because it will stay bug ridden and never get updated. Cause HOODLUM never updates Schitt. For anyone interested in Borderlands 3, better hopes CPY/CODEX cracks it instead of HOODLUM.
why crack a broken mess?
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despite the problems of the game I assure you that there are thousands
of people who go on or spend the day pressing f5 on the pirate sites,
waiting to see Borderlands 3 cracked … is a game that has a lot of
demand and if it has not yet been cracked is ONLY because it is more
difficult to do it because it has a version of Denuvo not yet
bypassed.period.
CrackStatus has nothing do to with anything, wtf are you even on about, are you trying to analyze the scene with that ?
Bro Scene crack what they want, demand means nothing! If you still don’t know that, you don’t know the scene at all.
CrackStatus has nothing do to with anything, wtf are you even on about, are you trying to analyze the scene with that ?
Bro Scene crack what they want, demand means nothing! If you still don’t know that, you don’t know the scene at all.
despite the problems of the game I assure you that there are thousands of people who go on or spend the day pressing f5 on the pirate sites, waiting to see Borderlands 3 cracked … is a game that has a lot of demand and if it has not yet been cracked is ONLY because it is more difficult to do it because it has a version of Denuvo not yet bypassed.period.
My biggest hope is that Red Dead 2 uses this version, so that the time to crack it will be shortened significantly.
You are really dumb. I wouldn’t even buy that filth, muchless pirate that 150 GB worth of garbage. I dont support stupidity, whether it’s via a purchase or piracy.
Lol, what?
If you don’t like the game. Cool, you are a very cool and edgy guy. In fact, I heard you’ve been nominated for the Internet’s Edgiest guy of 2019. Congrats.
Yes i’m edgy because I don’t support Wh*re$hit. Yes and I a game that is 150 GB, is totally normal when actual game data in any game is 5-10 GB’s tops. Please go learn to code.
i have that person blocked, he must be a massive troll.
Thanks for the heads up. As much as we clown others on here, I really wish we could have a proper conversation, instead of that idiot trolls constantly seeking attention by being a contrarian.
And Code Vein for 4 days.
Yeah well, malwares with constant 2mb uplink are harder to crack.
The entitlement in the pirate community is truly off the charts. Whatever mental gymnastics excuses you come up with just admit you want something for free.
And he keeps coming back for more comments! 😀 HIlarious
“a lot of gamers hate… Denuvo”
…plus Randy Pitchford, Timmy Tencent, Epic Games Store, the Chinese state government, Tencent and the brown-nosing shill ‘journalists’ in the media.
“Epic, make piracy great again”, amirite ?
Oh wait, you can’t post that on BL3 articles can you ? Atleast not right now xD
Even when you’re seemingly right you’re still ultimately wrong.
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lmao, some vague BS that doesn’t mean anything. You won’t tell me why I’m wrong, ofcourse, because you can’t.
‘Too much salt’
Sure, whatever makes you feel better. For your sake I hope they crack BL3 soon.
“I hope they crack BL3 soon”
You’re slowly learning. Well done you.
Guess what, its only a matter of time before it is cracked. Also smart people can also wait it out. There’s plenty of other games to play and things to do.
Not so wise if you want people with sense to buy your game. I don’t buy Denuvo infected games and I don’t even bother with the cracks for them. Only if the companies remove it then I’ll bother. Mabye re-evaluate 5yrs after the games are releases but my backlog will last me a life time and new games always coming out without it. Sadly I streaming will likely be the new Denuvo but worse.
“crackers”
morel like codex, since no one else is cracking them.
I dont know about anno but both borderlands and mortal kombat have high internet dependancy, borderlands constantly checks with denuvo to auhenticate, its like you are running a virtual machine emulator that has to send a ton of data to the denuvo hq, looking at the last 2 anno games and how internet focused they were, that is propably the case with the new anno game.
Groups that crack games do this not for work but for hobby. They have their own jobs and they crack games when they have time available or are on vacation, so some games have not yet been cracked, but this is just a matter of time. Other games are not cracked quickly because these groups have no interest in these games, because they crack that game that they themselves like to play. And finally, some games like Mortal Kombat 11 have not yet been cracked because Ed Boom had the unfortunate idea of making the game virtually Internet-dependent, multiple modes, and character endings are only available to whoever is connected, who It has the original game and a not so stable internet is always complaining on Steam and doing reviews negatively against the game because the connection is constantly falling and the game just closes preventing playing !!!
yeah
“. I’m not certain, but this is the most likely scenario. As such CODE VEIN, which has already been cracked, is most likely using an older version of this anti-tamper tech.”
No we have been through this, smaller morel linear games are easier to crack than big ones. Borderlands 3 uses your internet connection constantly to check denuvo servers and authenticate, some streamer said he couldnt stream it because of it.
“What’s also interesting here is that Anno 1800 is still safe. This strategy game came out almost six months ago, and none of the gaming cracking scene groups was able to crack it. I”
only one group bothers cracking stuff denuvo now, codex and its not as competent as cpy and baldman.
True what you said, but remember what I mentioned that some games are not in their interest, they only crack those games they are interested in playing and Anno 1800 can fit in this case !!!
Bullshit, just Bullshit.
It’s cracked, now mentioned they are not interrested.
Just an FYI since I own BL3 that -> “Borderlands 3 uses your internet connection constantly to check denuvo servers and authenticate” is not true that streamer has no idea what he is doing or talking about and it has nothing to do with Denuvo. BL3 has Twitch integration and when you stream on Twitch the API in BL3 will check if your game is in online mode to work with Twitch. In the options under Network & Social you have to turn off all 6 Twitch streaming option’s in BL3 he didn’t. If you don’t stream then this is not even an issue and it has nothing to do with Denuvo.
Anyone that owns the game can check this out and physically unplug their LAN or disable your network adapter and the game will work. The game 100% has an offline mode and I always play that way since I play solo and also play all My Steam games that way.
Having said that I am sort of shocked it has not been cracked since you can 100% play it in offline mode and the game is not tied to the internet.
there is alot of screwery going on, some people refunded it and were still able to play the game somehow and they say this is related to denuvo’s server side authentication system.
Crazy, who knows Man. I hate Denuvo or any other DRM in any video games. if only all video games where on GOG or there was no DRM in general, then we would not even have to put up with any of this DRM sh|t in our games.
I am a huge Borderlands fan so I am just happy I can play BL3 in offline mode, if I couldn’t I return it the very day I bought it. I hope by the time it goes on Steam they will also dump the DRM, fingers crossed.
the problem with denuvo is that at this point it basically server emulation on digital machine with multiple authentications system.
Well i pirated it for 15 minutes and pressed uninstall, the game is nonsene. All games are now 100% nonsense but they want full price for them. I ain’t buying their filth. Pirate, play for 15 and delete if it’s rubbish. And delete i did. These games combat system are so dumbed down nowadays it’s not even funny. Gone are the days of the Flashiness and finesse of Ninja Gaiden & Vanquish. It’s all asset flips and dumbed down gameplay.
you pirated what?
Code Vien
100% nonsense? It sound to me like you need a new hobby. I hear that drones are all the rage.
I 100% Agree… But i’ll Pass on the drones, hate those things. I don’t know WTF is so special about a camera on a flying object. People are acting like we’ve never had cameras or flying objects. It’s all the rage cause the average human is so easily excited, Pffftt Drones.
So you bought a game you knew you wouldn’t like just so you can bi*ch about it. No one who’s into the two games you mentioned is going to like Boardlands 3. Try Dead Cell or Katana Zero (easily of the best games of 2019) if you want a couple of great games that are full of flash and finesse gameplay.
I can confirm BL3 works when my PC is 100% DC’ed from the internet. I did it to farm loot tinks because the patch that nerfed the farm is server side only. Unplugging it back then reverted the game to release day build instantly.
Updates/DLC is the issue.
Since DENUVO is such a metastasized cancer tedious to removed + games announcing before and soon after release all the stuff they plan to release, they wait for it instead of going over and over removing the cancer.
For example Borderlands and MK are games that are known to get many DLC/Updates.
It will work until the Denuvo authentication expires, at which point you’ll have to go online to ask permission to play again. That’s unacceptable.
They haven’t cracked it yet becasue they are waiting for a good clean fixed copy of the game. That you can bet on!
he never had problems streaming but its not like i care about this game enough to do research on how much of a mess it is.
Nonsense
Your right about guys cracking games in the their spare time but you’re 100% wrong about why guys crack games. They don’t just crack games they only want to play only. They’ll crack anything that’s available. I was in a release group for years (back in highschool and college) and most of the guys doing the actual coding hardly ever played the games they cracked. They did it for the props, the challenge, credits on servers and most importantly leech access on top sites.
You weren’t in any damn group, you lying Sack Of Schitt. You all over this comment section talking nonsense. The only group you were in was Fuq Boy group. Talking irrelevant rhetoric. Who gives a Schitt why they pirate, none of that is relevant. All we care about is that they pirate.
Above is the whining of a grown man. Upset cause I pointed out the bull*hit in his post, lol. What do I gain by lying about my past? Not all of us are pathetic torrent leeches like you. FYI, I was also in QiX, one of the largest divx/xvid release groups as well. Have fun with your torrents.
No one cares what you were in dude, you could have went to heaven and met God we don’t care cause you are a disingenuous Prick.
No one cares what you were in dude, you could have went to heaven and met God we don’t care cause you are a disingenuous Pr*ck.
What happen to codex is updating all games and it doesn´t update soulcalibur 6? Is on vacation, doing their jobs? No. Make others wait. Me make one crack? No, we don´t have experience, if we need to wait 10 years for a stupid game we will wait for it.
Poor sad pirates.
I guess publishers are happy with Denuvo as more and more publishers use it. i guess they see improvement in sales.
The sheer amount of cry about Denuvo by the pirates confirms that it’s working beautifully.
The sheer amount of cry about Denuvo by the pirates confirms that it’s working beautifully.
But sir only the SAME companies are using it Not new Ones.
And they must be happy with the results. That is why they keep using it.
OR breaking a contract with DENUVO/Iderto costs as much as fictional “Loses”
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Man O’ man I’ve come across 4 comments of yours and I’m impressed man. You just keep shutting them down with logic and your fantastic short stories. ??? I never looked at it that way, from a contract perspective, you may be on to something. Thanks
only they dont, there is zero relation to sales and denuvo.
Ye, sure, these dumb publishers, with all their data and accounting departments. They know nothing. A forum dweller knows better.
“Denuvo has managed to secure their sales”
STOP!!! Just stop perpetrating this myth, this fallacious nonsense. There is no way to prove this garbage because that’s not how sales work.
DRM works very well during the initial sales window. Developers have said as much.
Hey Robo-Fernando, I’m not gonna argue with an A.I. You’re on some next level stupid. You’re very smart for an A.I, but very Dumb for a human. You’re just not quite at my level yet. Hopefully you’ll get better via Unreal 5.
There is no way to conclusively establish the effect DRM has on game sales because it is impossible to gauge and record the motivation of someone purchasing the game unless they tell you which none of the retailers or sales platforms allow or track. You can’t squeeze blood from a turnip so it is ridiculous to assume that every unauthorized copy of a game is a lost sale. Hell, from anecdotal evidence online a lot of unauthorized game downloads are actually never even played. So, the notion that someone who downloads a game but never plays it would have purchased it is ridiculous.
Amen ?
Doesn’t really matter. It’s better than nothing at all, which is proven to hurt sales. This was proven during the Napster era. They don’t care how perfectly effective it is, never have.
The many new release games on GOG have disproven your notion that lack of DRM for a game hurts its sales. If no DRM hindered sales to any siginificant degree, GOG would have no new release games.
What AAA game (besides the Witcher 3) was released at the same time on GOG and Steam? The answer is none. GOG is a great shop for indie and old games but it’s dead when it come to new AAA titles because no major publisher is going to release their new games with no DRM.
It doesn’t matter if a game is a AAA game or not. The point is the very existence of any new release games on GOG disproves the erroneous assertion that “nothing at all (DRM)…is proven to hurt sales.” If not using DRM hurt sales, no one would release new games without DRM. Whether AAA publishers put DRM in their AAA releases or not doesn’t prove that lack of DRM hurts sales. It simply proves that AAA publishers generally use DRM.
One of the stupidest, jewest thing i found companies throw around is “Predicted Lost Sales”.
Those numbers are pure fabrication, speculation to justified bad products/services which they KNOW are bad or not wanted by the consumer.
Then show us all how it’s a fallacy.
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It’s based on pure speculation.
The only way those numbers can be valid is if they have some sort of Minority report or Psycho pass kind of system in place.
Oh, btw i did forget to add i was referring to Digital sales. For physical goods there are ways, not exclusively based on speculation, to assess future loses.
And to add to that. If you works at the company, it’s generally a way to blame you the rat racer. Lost sales are the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. “Nah fool, you didn’t lose anything… People just didn’t buy your garage”. I know for fact that when there is Denuvo, I won’t buy. So why isn’t that Count as a lost sale?..
No one is making that assumption, but it’s reasonable to assume that (out of the pirates who can buy the game, which is a big number of people), a good number of them will give in if they really want the game and the wait is too long.
Actually there are plenty of people who make that assumption including the author of this “news” article and the ESA.
It’s not reasonable to assume that it’s a “big” number. It’s reasonable to assume it’s not zero, but “big” is pure speculation.
The other glaring point you are missing is that the cracked version of a game and the legitimate version are the same in terms of functionality and features. They aren’t in most cases. Purchasing the game confers additional functionality and features like Internet multiplayer and achievements and/or leaderboards for single-player games. Even if a cracked version of a game is available, people who otherwise would have pirated it will buy it if it has additional benefits they value. So, the absence of a cracked version of a game doesn’t mean that is the reason that even a frequent pirate would buy a particular game. They could be buying it because a cracked version would be inferior even if it did exist.
I think hardly anyone says that all pirated copies are lost sales, and if someone does, we can just ignore them. It’s common sense. Go and read articles where the Denuvo people have talked about it. They’ve said what you expect. It’s hard to measure etc etc, but they think there will be some difference, and it makes sense. They also said it depends on the game and so on.
I think it’s reasonable to assume that it is significant enough, maybe not for all games, but for games like BL3 ? Over a one month period ? I think so. It’s established, has a fanbase and a lot of people who really want to play more Borderlands. However it’s worth pointing out that for other games, it might even be negligible, who knows. For popular games, over a long enough window, I think a lot of people (out of the pirates who can buy it) will give in and buy it.
No, I am not interested in reading Denuvo’s propaganda on the subject because the company obviously has a vested interest in pushing the narrative that DRM improves sales since it sells a DRM solution.
So? The question is are a “big” percentage of those people willing to forgo purchasing the game for a free but inferior cracked version if it existed. I say no, and I have seen no evidence to substantiate that they would. The Witcher III was an established franchise with a large fanbase, and it was DRM free at release. And, even though unlike Borderlands 3 it was single-player only, it still sold well.
The real issue is does DRM improve sales significantly enough to justify its overall expense and hassle. I have seen no definitive evidence in over thirty years of observing the PC video game market as an adult to see that it does.
“I have seen no definitive evidence”
Ofcourse you haven’t. It’s impossible to even have definitive evidence. It’s more than reasonable to assume that a good number of people will give in and buy it if the waiting period is long enough.
“No, I am not interested in reading Denuvo’s propaganda on the subject because the company obviously has a vested interest in pushing the narrative that DRM improves sales since it sells a DRM solution.”
Just because it comes from someone in the company, doesn’t mean it’s propaganda.
“The Witcher III was an established franchise with a large fanbase, and it was DRM free at release”
And that proves nothing either, because it’s a different game, and we don’t know what it would have been if it did have DRM.
Repeating the same speculative statement from your first post doesn’t make it any less speculative. It’s still not a reasonable assumption. There’s far too many other games on the market which can be pirated to assume that a significant number of people are going to spend $60+ on this one game which currently can’t be pirated.
If that someone is speaking for the company, it’s propaganda. Denuvo’s main if not sole form of revenue is from its DRM solution. Anything it has to say on the subject at the very least is going to be biased and skewed to present DRM in the best possible light.
Of course it’s a different game, but it’s still similar to Borderlands 3 in terms of scope and budget.
We definitely do know that lack of DRM didn’t prevent the game from being commercially successful and financially viable because a fully functional version of the game was available for download for free at release since the game had no DRM whatsoever. That’s the point. Lack of DRM and even feature parity in the pirated version of the game didn’t prevent the game from financial success.
Your entire argument is based on the one AAA title that was released without DRM. You have no other games to base your ideas on. Plus your willfully ignoring all the reports that differ from your line of thinking. Your no better than the people who equate every pirated download to a loss sell.
What “all reports” are those? You have cited no reports which support your erroneous, unproven notion that lack of DRM hurts sales or that using DRM helps sales.
One beats nothing.
“Observing the PC video game market” means ignoring the info you don’t want to hear. Your basing all your knowledge on sh*t you’ve read in magazines and forums. Your not in the industry so you don’t have access to the actual sales data but you know. Lol, you online experts are amazing.
That’s complete bullsh*t. My opinion on the subject is supported by the facts I’ve read over the years in the industry media along with the absence of proof by the DRM lobby. I’ve even been to a couple of presentations at E3 by actual DRM/copy-protection vendors 15-20 years ago back when there were a handful of companies competing for that business. Steam’s included DRM solutions and the rise of the DRM-free trend put them out of business for the most part. So, I’ve heard both sides of the tale. And, none of the DRM vendors at the time could quantify the effect on sales. They simply touted how long it took for certain games they protected to be cracked after release.
And, who the f*ck are you, hypocrite?! Unlike me you have offered absolutely nothing to support your assertions: no concrete examples or citations, just bullsh*t.
all i am gonna say is that mafia 3 was cracked on day 1 and it sold better than actual good games with denuvo.
One game is not undeniable proof but we won’t let logic get in the way of your bull*hit
You’re a Dummy… The gift of a brain is lost on you. What a waste, come to think of it… You remind me of our friend Don a.k.a Squirrel Brain. Is that you Don?
there are other examples mad max sold better than just cause 3 despite it was cracked.
It doesn’t matter if you believe it, publishers do, and I’m pretty sure they know more about how to make money on games than you do.
Go Fuq your mother and let your Father watch.
The reply of the defeated. You have nothing.
No, I usually respond to nothing with nothing. I’m not about to validate his nothingness with something. Make sense to you now. When he’s done Fuqing his mother i hope he fuqs you too. Cause only a Queermo would defend that idiot.
You win sir.
bruh i just logged in to downvote you, really that was your cumback in 2019 (almost 2020)? smuh
Yes, because I a grown azz man cares about a downvote. ? Maybe if I was a Puzzy azz generation Z, but try again you Kock Juggling Thunder Kunt. ?
Being completely embarrassed really hurt your feelings, lol
Embarrassed Of What Kuck Boy?.. Stop trying to make yourself relevant man, is not working. Go Fuq a goat and before you communicate with me again fill one of these out. You seem to have an acute condition. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72251111c44cbc618b5280810ee593795568821bef86fa5ab4aa238829c9e427.jpg
Ofcourse there’s no way to outright prove it, but people keep using this to invalidate the entire thing.
Vast majority of pirates wouldn’t buy the game anyway, but are there pirates who will if they can’t pirate it ? Ofcourse there are. There will obviously be a number of people who give in and buy copies because they don’t want to wait. This is common sense. It’s like Gaben said ‘piracy is a service problem’. Extend that logic. If people can only buy something, some of them will end up buying it instead of waiting a whole month. At some point, many people will get fed up and just spend the money.
So yes, ofcourse it has an effect. There’s no outright way to prove it, but common sense should tell you it does have an effect, and probably a non-negligible one. The only counter argument I can think of would be that it is negated by people who don’t buy DRM games on principle, but I doubt that number is big enough to completely invalidate it.
Denuvo has protected my wallet too
Same, I’ve Saved so much in the last 5 years. Use to. But 2-3 games a month now I buy 1-2 games a year if lucky.
no one cares about anno so it never gets cracked early as for borderlands 3 who gives a …
Well done, Denuvo.
“As such CODE VEIN, which has already been cracked, is most likely using an older version of this anti-tamper tech.”
Uh… this is Bamco. They have their heads so far up Denuvo’s a**, that they’re whispering in SquareEnix’s ear. There is ZERO chance, they would settle for “an older version”. Zero.
Secondly, Denuvo secures nothing, aside from publisher’s ease from the virtual pirate boogeyman they think is cannibalizing their sales. For every person out there that may cave and buy the game because of Denuvo, there is one who will refuse to buy it because of Denuvo.
Lastly, the games you’ve listed as not being cracked, are not being protected by Denuvo, they are being protected by disinterest. Aside from MK11, which will surely get cracked once their dripstream of DLC bulls**t is completed, none of those games peak anyone’s interest.
This industry started in the 70s with some of the most incompetent DRM for 4 decades, as every game on every platform, was pretty much cracked day one. Yes, this includes consoles which had pirates carts for practically every system ever. Yet, here we are, and this industry has only gotten bigger with time.
Anyone who thinks DRM is a necessary evil, is either profiting from DRM, or is a complete and utter moron. There’s just no two ways about it.
well said
like i said mafia 3 sold well despite it was cracked on day one and it was a bad game.
borderlands 3 seems like a really high profile game plus its not on steam. are you sure disinterest is the issue there?
It’s not. Trust me, there’s guys working their ass*ss off to crack BL3. Because the longer it stays uncracked the more games will use that version of Denuvo.
Where did you get these fact from? Cause they smell like you pulled them from your a*s.
The only one pluming Schitt out of there azz is you. You Fuqing shill. Why are you on here defending Denuvo like a crack addict defending his addiction. You’re up and down this comment section trying to prove what exactly when Denuvo does nothing but hurt the paying customer. So answer me this if Denuvo is suppose to do all these great things, “protect the opening sales window” then why is it still on Batman Arkham Knight, Rise Of Tomb Raider, Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, Just Cause 3, Just Cause 4 & Most of Capcom’s rubbish? Because those games were all cracked with 2 days before release or during the first week. What initial sales window are being protected then. And why is it that these games still have Denuvo in them 5 years later when they’ve been cracked 10x over?
After 5 years when the game has been cracked who is the Denuvo protecting the game from exactly? Sure as hell ain’t Pirates, because if I install any of those games today, don’t play them for a week, my internet goes down and I try to boot up let’s say Rise Of The Tomb Raider; it won’t FUQING BOOT. But the pirate can play his FREE FUQING game anytime he wants. You’re a Fuqing moron. A DipSchitt that speaks against his own interest as a consumer. Anyone that chooses security over freedom is no brother of mines and I can’t wait till they come for you and your family at night after selling out our civil liberties. You idiot!
Amen Brother, Take ’em To Church.
And to add to that… Why is it that after a game is Cracked 10x over why is there still Denuvo in the game? What sales window is Denuvo protecting when a game line Just Cause 4 & Hitman 2 is cracked 2 days before release? No one wants to answer these questions, they’ll just keep babbling on about nonsense. 5 years after any of these games have been cracked and still have Denuvo in them, the people that’s defending this “necessary evil” should go try boot up any Denuvo games after 1 week of not playing the game and lose internet connection right before booting a game like Rise of the tomb Raider, Batman Arkham Knight, Just Cause 3 Or Any Denuvo Game. See what happens and then comeback and tell us if they STILL feel the same way about Denuvo. While you won’t be able to boot up the game that you own the 3-5 years, the pirate will be off enjoying THEIR FREE GAME.
Crackers not interested in BL3 ?
Nice coping mechanism. Create a fantasy to avoid facing reality. Good idea.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76aafe6526d34bc67a2a8bc6c27cc8f2ff9c16e232b23b44533063a97aa854c8.jpg ahahah….he said the bullshit of the century! B3 is the most wanted game by pirates…
Gooooooood!!!!!!!!!
Thieves are crying.
Who cares this game cracked or not. Better play anime games with pantsu revealing everywhere…
epic store down can’t load borderlands 3 !
I think it’s more the fact that no one even cares about Borderlands or Anno, both Epic exclusives, enough to crack them.
NOT ANYMORE JOURNALIST LOSERS! HAHAHAHA!