Konami has revealed that the PC version of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes will cost $19.99, and that it will go live tomorrow at 10:00 PST/13:00 EST on Steam. This is the same price with the last-gen version of Ground Zeroes, even though the PC will sport better visuals than the current-gen console version.
Konami has also detailed the bonuses players will receive by having a Ground Zeroes save when The Phantom Pain is released:
“When you play METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES PC version (MGSV:GZ), there is a variety of benefits when you take over the data to METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHAMTOM PAIN PC version (MGSV:TPP).
Mother Base Staff
If you would rescue prisoners or unique characters, you can use them as Mother Base staff.
Costume
The costume Snake wears in MGSV:GZ will be available in MGSV:TPP.
*The game of MGSV:GZ and its save data are necessary when you will receive the benefits of data take over.”
Last but not least, the Konami recently updated the game’s PC requirements, and you can view the new ones below.
MINIMUM:
OS: Windows Vista SP2 x64, Windows 7 x64, Windows 8 x64 (64-bit OS Required)
Processor: Core i5-4460 (3.40GHz) or better *Quad-Core or better
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (4GB) or better (DirectX 11 graphics card required)
DirectX: Version 11
Hard Drive: 4 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card (Surround Sound 5.1)RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 7 x64, Windows 8 x64 (64-bit OS Required)
Processor: Core i7-4790 (4.00GHz) or better *Quad-Core or better
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (DirectX 11 graphics card required)
DirectX: Version 11
Hard Drive: 4 GB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card (Surround Sound 5.1)
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Good price. I’m in.
Still way too much.
i7-4790 @4Ghz, LOL, must be REALLY CPU intensive then in order to recommend a £230 CPU with a £160 GPU and on top of that they’re saying use turbo frequency on the i7 because it’s default clock is 3.6Ghz
I seriously doubt it will be THAT cpu intensive. If it is, then they didn’t do a good enough job. This game doesn’t do anything that should require that much CPU performance.
yeah the CPU they want cost more then the 760 by a Avg of $100 US. That’s pretty funny. But at the same time I think they are trying to figure in hyper threading since the PS4 uses 8 cores so they just name off a I7 in general. But I am getting it the game when I wake up in the morning so I will see how much usage it really uses
Nvidia just released these specs for the game…..
Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows Vista 64-Bit or later
Processor: Core i5 Sandy Bridge 4 Core (4 Thread) 2.7GHz or above
Memory: 4GB RAM or above
Graphics: GeForce GTX 650 (4GB) or above
DirectX: Version 11 or above
Recommended Specifications
Processor: Core i5 Sandy Bridge 4 Core (4 Thread) 2.7GHz or above
Memory: 8GB RAM or above
Graphics: GeForce GTX 760 or above
These fake requirements need to stop.
Seriously. So many games nowadays are given such nonsensical system requirements.
If this game really does require an i7 4790 to run well, it is a failure. If the weak console CPUs allow for 60fps there is no reason for the CPU requirements to be so high on the PC.
But, but dat Konami coding……
PC Elitists begged and whined for a console-port of a game series that barely has been on PC and has much belonged and existed on consoles. Konami aren’t really known for a company for ‘PC Coding skills’, so what happens when you whining PC elitists get the grace of being able to play the newest iteration of the series? Which also was essentially made fun of and called a demo. Am pretty sure majority of people making fun of Ground Zeroes as a demo was PC Elitists so as to make fun of the console fanboys/’peasants’.
You b*tch and whine still about specs required to play it? Jesus. Ungrateful twits. It’s not really nonsensical but an estimation of the hardware you’d need to play it maxed. I don’t remember seeing so much whining for Crysis 1 and it was both a visual benchmark and the engine at the time was the most unholy of all unoptimized engines.
PC apotheosis here, I didn’t b**ch nor whine about this garbage series, nor will I be buying it. 🙂
So many peasants like you hanging around this site lately. Hopefully nobody catches a disease.
Am afraid you’re already infected by another disease, pheasant. It’s terminal.
You know the 1st metal gear was on PC 1st before nes right? But at the same time I am a gamer I play on anything I can get my hands on. I just don’t limit myself to just PC. That would be well… Stupid.
…………………………..First Metal Gear was on MSX. Which, isn’t exactly a ‘PC’. PC being more or less something that revolves around ‘Microsoft Windows-enabled Personal Computers’.
MSX I’d moreso label a ‘Home Computer’ and at that, was in Japan only, and Poorly ported onto NES.
Still it was a PC just because it don’t have windows does not mean it was not a PC. That’s like saying Games under Dos was not a PC.
Grasping at straws there. MS-DOS was the first OS for PC, after that we should know where it goes from there. Why do you think Apple used the ads that begin with: “Hi I’m a Mac – And I’m a PC”?….. Because Apple does not list their product as PC. It is many things, from simply ‘Computer’ or ‘Home Computer’ because it was a COMPUTER for the HOME. The Origin of PC was defined as a multi-purpose computer designed for the average North American home.
By your logic, which is at that, biased and misimformed, you’d be claiming that Apple computers are PC’s, NO ONE, I repeat, No one refers Apple computers as PC’s – But here you are listing MSX’s as ‘PCs’ they’re computers – Yes. However, PC is still, both by marketing, advertisement, and simple logic, a ‘Computer’ that more or less is likely to contain Windows Operating System. Alternatively Linux.
MSX is not ‘PC’ – but is a Computer. By this simple logic too and the direct definition of ‘Computer’ (not PC), we could say all consoles are ‘computers’, because it’s the truth, consoles just were designed not as multi-purpose computers but for the purpose of gaming software.
This isn’t really debatable.
lol fine whatever man. MSX Japanese PC I will leave it at that.
Japanese ‘computer’ – Will leave it at that. Lots of computers are in this world, but ain’t a PC. If you want PC, it’s gonna be Wndows/Linux. If you want Apple, it’s a Macbook/Macontish Computer, I had an Amiga Computer before, it also was not a PC. Guess what Commodore 64 was? a Home Computer.
SCEA/SCEE/SCEJ is Sony Computer Entertainment Studios – Realize they don’t call themselves Sony Personal Computer Entertainment Studios for a special reason.
So yeah. Sorry, but you’re wrong, deal with it without fluffing it up as a ‘Lets agree to disagree’. Take it like a man when you’re in the wrong.
Now you are just being a rude Schmuck. Who cares dude I am 34… I can call a Computer a PC regardless the the freaking OS… 🙂 Btw the MSX used MSX-DOS / MSX BASIC… And was a MS product.
And you can at least spell Macintosh right… Geeez la frick man. Oh btw
“A personal computer (PC) is a general-purpose computer, whose size, capabilities and original sale price makes it useful for individuals, and is intended to be operated directly by an end-user with no intervening computer operator.”
So How about you take it like a man.
Nice edited post there. Yes I’m being rude but yes you’re being lazy and hoping your laziness can be forgiven for some odd reason. Whether it was made by Microsoft means little to nothing. Microsoft is the contemporary main supporter of PC’s, does not mean everything they touch equates to it being a PC, especially before PC’s even existed in common tongue whilst ‘Computers’ have existed in definition since we had the ability to Draw and Write.
Typo – Is what happens when you type it before bed. No need to be desperate to spot for errors when I’m over here spotting your miles upon miles of errors.
Take what like a man? You’re in the wrong, you’re lazy buffoon who doesn’t seem to know a thing and you’re acting like your lazy ignorance doesn’t matter if you’re in the wrong or it doesn’t matter if you half-arse everything like some kind of lazy fat dude who can’t be bothered to get up from his chair. You’re not proving yourself right with facts or evidence, but Assumptions and randomly-asserted Beliefs and clumping them with truth or facts because “You think so” or because you associate flawed knowledge that came from assumptions as facts. You already made that clear as day by saying “Who cares dude I’m 34”. What does your age have to do with anything? Age doesn’t instantly equate to knowledge in specific fields, only the chance to gain more experience in variable ones. For your age, you SHOULD know better, but apparently not. Your behaviour easily would lead anyone to believe you’re an idiot who doesn’t care, you only care because I’m getting you defensive so you’re trying to One-up me in spite, the problem is, you’re too incompetent to be able to and I’d bet any money that you’re an under-achiever in life even whilst being older than me. Whatever you say will not remove the facts I presented to you, there’s Dozens of HOME Computers, Few Personal Computers and that Computers as a definition and term given to variable devices used to compute and calculate (Like, Calculators even) have existed for a Long, long time. Clump EVERYTHING as ‘PCs’ and expecting your swiss-cheese knowledge to be sufficient in conversation is laughable.
I’ll let you think whatever you want, albeit, I’m still leaving my advice which comes from a person who actually know what he’s talking about. I know when to begin ignoring a person and usually its when I see things will escalating because the person in question is beginning to turn emotional and their idiocy is taking form. The conversation ended when I proved you wrong and you were incapable of accepting it, so I shall take my leave.
“ms-dos was the first os for PC”
LOL
Mmk, which was the first common and Personal-use Operating System? This of course excludes business-oriented models of computers as when we say ‘PC’, it’s Personal Computer, if it’s Personal, it’s implied to belong to a Person, rather than say, a Company. The only other operating system that had prior existed was CP/M, which was more or less used with ‘microcomputers’ than ‘Personal’ and is the influence of where MS-DOS came from, which became the common and original OS for the common market, home, and personal computer.
Why laugh under immense ignorance? Why laugh if you cannot give reasons for laughter outside of ignorance? You insinuate me stating that is laughable – but cannot give reasons as to why, because you’re apparently not as knowledgeable and your stupidity makes things outside of your grasp seem funny to you. It’d be like if you were born in 2005 and I told you ‘NES was the first home console Nintendo made’ and you go “LOL” Similar enough I’d still think you’re mentally challenged. I apologize if logic, common sense and knowledge hurts what intelligence you clearly lack, your mental capacity goes from 0 to Lint.
who begged and whined? you think Konami board of directors look on forums and random gaming sites to see who ‘begs’ and ‘cries’ for their games? the only reason game gets released on a platform is because those guys in suits see an earning opportunity. also MG started on PC.. only 3 and 4 were not on PC , but they might some day. there is no reason why should any game be console ONLY , or PC only unless its a RTS or it’s impossible to transfer the controls. BUT i agree with you about these guys crying about specs , because they don’t really understand them , yet cry and whine about them.. but then again, why care? let them be stupid
You could imply the same thing. Yet same happened with Dark Souls, the begging and whining was EVERYWHERE and a bunch of petitions everywhere and the fan-websites and the official facebook pages for each and every company was always bursting with beggars on the comment section, trust me, I saw constant moanings every day as I casually looked at my pages. – Up until the whinings proved to be effective and they got their way. Both FromSoftware and Konami being ‘ehn’ with PC really by default they needed some form of motivation. Which was an army of whiners. Unsure how profitable it’d be, FromSoftware I guess is appeased by the fanbase, albeit even though I’d rather play Dark Souls-games on consoles for the minimal amount of hackers present.
See an earning opportunity? XD Well, we’ll see how the sales are when GZ comes out. I’d be curious how many will pirate it on PC instead under the guise of “I ain’t paying $20 for this demo!!” kinda irony I bet.
No reason? There’s always a reason for platform exclusivity, it’s marketing and Competition, which of course is quite healthy for the industry. :O Just as Street Fighter V for PS4/PC could prove interesting for rivalry and competition.
And yes, not like I’d want to play FPS’s or RTS’s on consoles. Just, when the day comes that consoles are just freely capable of using keyboard/mouse, it makes the whole debate of Peripheral-superiority a bit minor and the only benefit of PC being mod support efficiency and upgradable hardware :L
“PC elitists”
nice ad hominem there. Wanting an optimized game for our PC is being an ungrateful twit? Wanting a good quality product is being an ungrateful twit? So this is what console players believe.
But for all the people that read this besides the person I’m replying to, the system requirements shown aren’t accurate at all. I’m running Ground Zeroes with my integrated graphics toaster and still get a pretty stable 20 fps, so your PC will likely do a lot better.
Making fun of PC Elitists vaguely does not equate to ad hominem, nice try with the buzzword and all. First, you have to infact know when to use it instead of using a word that you clearly don’t understand as it’s meant to refer to when you attack someone instead of disputing the content of someones’ argument itself.
So, one. I’m not attacking an ‘individual’ parse. Two, I’m not attacking a person wherein I’m avoiding a dispute in which someone created a rebuttal or properly argued a point and I ignored it only to attack a persons’ character. Three, upon properly making a rebuttal that destroys someones’ argument itself, if they even have one, you may then insult the person if you wish, but only AFTER disputing/destroying their argument and not before or not if the entirety of the post is merely a direct insult with no counter-argument involved.
Just because I made fun of a whiny bunch of people that formally are self-entitled whiners does not mean you need to get defensive unless you yourself categorize yourself as one of those types of people, if so, that ain’t my problem, it’s yours.
And yes, Ground Zeroes has been ported very nicely as far as every gamer and PC elitist and the like have been reporting, the only dilemma still being those who consider it a ‘demo’, but that hasn’t stopped a decent amount of sales
The PS4 CPU has 8 cores, the i7 has 4. The PS4 GPU also has over 5GB of usable GDDR5.
So that’s why the requirements are high if you want a PS4 like experience. If you want the PS3 experience (sub 720p, sub 30fps) I’m sure you can get by with less.
“The PS4 CPU has 8 cores” clocked at 1.6 GHz and 2 of them are used for the OS.Even if it has 32 of GDDR5 it doesn’t matter.
but , b.. my GDDR5
What the f’ ?
i7 has 4 core and 8 threads and in “8 cores” games the i7 its using all threads !
1 thread Intel= 16 core PS4
I don’t know if they are so fake.
The memory bandwidth on the 650 is pretty horrendous. If you jump up to the 660 it’s almost doubled. So the card can probably handle it, but the vram is probably not fast enough and not enough of it. It’s a pretty s**t card. By jumping up to the 760, the recommended card, you’re looking at 2.5 times the memory bandwidth, but 4gb is not mentioned in any way on that. I think we’ll see this game being capable of running on pretty poor hardware when it’s out. I think people worry about nothing here. Something like the 460 have a higher memory bandwidth then the 650, even the worst version of the 460 and it was release in something like early 2010. As they mention the 4gb spesifically on the 650, I’ll guess that’s the sort of cards they need so much vram, not most cards, as they have a much higher bandwidth.
And the CPU is comparable to a CPU 4 years ago in May, the i5-2500k.
Demanding decent hardware for running at game, that actually looks A LOT better then it’s console counter part isn’t unreasonable at all.
Nvidia on their website just today have these as the min/req specs.
Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows Vista 64-Bit or later
Processor: Core i5 Sandy Bridge 4 Core (4 Thread) 2.7GHz or above
Memory: 4GB RAM or above
Graphics: GeForce GTX 650 (4GB) or above
DirectX: Version 11 or above
Recommended Specifications
Processor: Core i5 Sandy Bridge 4 Core (4 Thread) 2.7GHz or above
Memory: 8GB RAM or above
Graphics: GeForce GTX 760 or above
Haha nope. 1GB or 2GB variants only.
Wrong.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4982#ov
Might be stupid but still proves you wrong.
Wrong. There’s the GV-N650OC-4GI,
Really? I’m surprised. I never saw that one.
Yes
Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes should have been included with The Phantom Pain. 20 bucks for a game that most will play through within 2-3 hours in way too high.
theres replay value besides the main story re**rd. why dont you f’ing kids understand this?
That would have been a nice idea. But it’s all about the profit though.
But I will be picking this game up when it’s out.
The game has nothing in it that require that high a CPU as recommended.
price is a little bit high, system req is messed up. but according to some 4chan user it constant 60fps on an i7 950 and a gtx 660, it’s 30 to 50fps on extra high.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (4GB) or better? for minimum? it should honestly be illegal to lie like this, they are literally lying so people go buy hardware they dont need just because konami took nvidia bribe money. disgusting. day 1 pirate.
Day 1 pirate = yes please put more drm in my games because i have no self control.
After Denuvo failed, i doubt they will even bother with new DRM methods 😛
Not really most piracy (and sales) happens at a game’s launch, if people can’t get it free (pirate it) they are more likely to buy it (in the eyes of a publisher).
Even if it’s only a week that they can delay a game from being pirated it’s considered successful form of copy protection.
For 20$ I could buy a lot of games on the Steam Holiday Sale. Why would I want to spend them on a demo?
A guy with GTX660 and a 6 years old core i7 920 was able to play it on max settings with steady 60 FPS all the time. the game is pretty well optimized
not max settings, High settings. on max settings it gets 30 to 50fps which i guess pretty good
I certainly hope the performance is as good as they say on 4chan, it seems Kojima and his team have been doing the work to make this a good port. This makes it even stranger that Konami would publish such nonsensical system requirements on Steam, it really carries on the stereotype that Japanese developers are bad at PC programming even when they may not be in reality.
I’m not surprised at all about that. The 660 is a massive jump in memory bandwidth from the 650. Almost doubling it.
They are most likely mentioning 4gb for the 650 becasue the memory bandwidth on that card can be beaten by cards in the 400 series of cards, and not only the high end cards in the 400 series. but cards in the lower end of it.
I was gonna say that we need a demo before we can go out and buy it, but.. this is the demo. xD I might buy it, if not i’m pretty sure a friend will, so either way i will try it out!
Cool. At this pricepoint (or lower, which was unlikely), it’s insta-buy. Let’s hope it’s well optimized! 😉
$20 for a game that can be completed in 10 minutes… sheeesh.
People are ‘entitled’ to their own preferences course – and I have the right to also suggest that it’s your loss – and that I don’t really care if you’d buy it or not 😛 Cause I know I’m going to enjoy the hell out of it.
Well, have fun with your demo. I for one, hope to try out the full game when it releases.
Apparently, that’s March 31st.
I already played and 100%’d it on PS4, like I’d wait for the PC version patiently. I put a total of around 13 hours into it and as soon as I get home for winter break I’m going to play it again, cause I want to rescue a crapload of soldiers for some reason. Getting the game early/at launch gave me a special code either way to get increased benefits as well as everything I do in GZ is transferred over to the full game, including soldiers recruited and Unique soldiers that were found in specific missions in GZ. Playing GZ at launch of PP gives mildly less benefits, although you’d also probably do less in it and get less done since you’d want to go right to PP asap am sure. Doing GZ and getting it over with gives more out of it sooner rather than later imo.
I’d doubt it’d March 31st, a website had ‘leaked’ March 17th, then was removed. I’m thinking it’s because it wasn’t a solid date and Kojima wasn’t secure with saying when, so early in development in his mind. I think it’s June and that he silently delayed it. At the Video Game Awards he wore a Swedish Shirt that literally when translated, said: 6th 22nd – – or June 22nd / 2015.
Actually, I was the first to secure my preorder at my local gamestop.
It says the release date is March 31st on the gamestop MGS:PP product page, though not many seem to have noticed. Though it could just be a placeholder, and March 17th could very well be the release date.
I guess being able to recruit Hideo Kojima into PP would be quite handy though. I just hope they make it so every door in mother base is openable. Much more roleplay value in a base that’s fully operable.
I think it would be a very good strategy exercise too, what better way to test your tactics than be able to control what patrols go where, what soldiers stand where?
Maybe choose your chain of command too, seems exciting to me.
Likely a placeholder. As Dec 31st is generally a placeholder for ‘late’ games. We know Q1/Q2 is the quarterly release date for MGS5 in 2015, March is the 3rd month of 12 – Meaning the First Quarter of 2015. ’31st’ heavily implies its a placeholder date thus for End of Q1 2015 release.
Unsure if EVERY door, but it does definitely seem pretty open. Though there’d have to be specific uses to each room, unless rooms can be like what say, PayDay 2 was going to do, like, your money/vault location, things you’ve taken or things you’ve done, achievements, but not like we’d want to run across the base everywhere just to get to somewhere specific, lol. Unless being a tour-guide to showing someone everything you’ve stolen and all the goats you have.
Traps I know for sure, but, patrol routine would possibly be good, especially in making sure all sneaking-potential areas with invaders are known.
Will you be trying the Ground Zeroes for PC? It just came out, but I don’t think I’ll be getting it, seeing as I already have the ps3 version.
Probably not. I’m not one of those kinds of fans who ‘rebuys’ the game a bunch of times. Though by all means, looking at Steam, it’s 33% off and I’d EASILY say at $13.39 (CAD)? That is a STEAL. The review scores on Steam is also Overwhelmingly Positive, that says quite enough that even PC fans are praising it after finally trying it.
I can appreciate the lure of discounts from time to time, but I know better than to buy a demo, 13 dollars or not.
There are those who feel that the fanbase who buys the demo are brown nosing so Kojima can rip them off. I mean, are you alright with paying 40 dollars for a demo?
Quality or not, it has about as much replayability as any other demo. A little disheartening to see so many good reviews for such an expensively small package.
I put 13 hours into it, so by all means. Even if one were to call it a ‘demo’ – $1 am sure is worth it. It’s all about getting your hours-worth.
The other spectrum to take into consideration, is how big of a fan you are. If you’re hardcore into MGS as I am, $13 is nothing for it. If you’re simply new and curious to the series – it may not be your thing as its more or less a game for the fans, in the end.
It was $40 but it became $30 for PS4/X1 – $20 for PS3/360 – it never was $40 when it had launched due to the pricecut. People emphasizing that pricecut were merely using, (for the most part) broken evidence to support generally-flawed reasoning, it can be simplified pretty easily to what I put above. 5-10-15 hours can be put into it. $13/$20 can get you some things in like, bag of chips, coke, a Sub to eat? Some icecream? Those last minutes – but cmon, just $13 and that’s still to much due to a stigma placed on it via it being called a demo? lol.
No offense but, you can’t just go out and being so cynical over the game and just being a total buzzkill, Steam reviewer people are generally harsh critics especially. If there was something wrong with it, you can be sure they’d speak it, or make satirical comments on why its bad, there’s no need to act as if like “Wow all those people just clearly don’t know a good game when they see one” – It’s got good reviews, because it’s a good, albeit short game. That’s all you need to accept :/ If you’re not hardcore into the series though, there’s no need for you to go out and get it.
I’ve enjoyed the MGS games, and I’ve played 1, 3 and 4.
But when you put it like that, I disagree. MGS fans shouldn’t conform to the price for anything less than a Masterpiece. I don’t care how big a fan you are, if you’re fine with paying that much for a demo, that’s your thing. But there’s a whole other side of the spectrum that feels that the game deserves to be more, not just cost more.
A demo isn’t a masterpiece, because it doesn’t offer the same joys as a full game. And GZ is a demo in the technical sense.
Then again, it is the MGS fans choice to do so. I just hope they don’t try to hog the comments sections with that sentiment much longer. Surely you wouldn’t waste 40 dollars for a demo of Dark Souls when the game’s right around the corner?
Besides, there’s no need to accept what isn’t there. And it’s not meant solely for the fans if Kojima knows what’s good for him.
It’s not about conforming. It’s about weighing Fun factor, seeing it as an investment and measuring Time > Fun. It ain’t simply black and white and most games made during NES/SNES days either way consisted of a VERY short game that made it feel like a longer game only because of difficulty disallowing you to actually beat it until you pour hours into it and become victorious. Goblins n’ Ghouls? Metroidvania games that make you backtrack a lot? Short duration does not equate to bad game, or conformity. As same goes with linear progression. As I had said, I felt that my money was well spent because the time I put into GZ was 13 hours worth, and I greatly enjoyed my experience and considered it a fine Investment of my money, everyone can differ on ‘What is a fine investment’ because our standards will differ, but you don’t seem to be looking at it as branched off and variably as I am. So, idunno what I can say? Not like I’m here to convince you or anything, if you want to wait that’s up to you course. Am just saying, it ain’t conformity simply because OTHERS can define to themselves, if it’s worth the investment, the reviews its getting is overwhelmingly positive, so your opinion is definitely a minority now, whereas when it first was announced, the price that is, many people were in your very shoes, but the opinions have changed because people realized that it was a good quality experience for a ‘demo-like’ game. A taste of what’s to come.
Kojima always referenced it as a Prologue to the main game. People stubbornly refusing to accept and understand that he was telling the truth, are a problem, it created a stigma in thinking that somehow a ‘prologue’ HAS to mean ‘Full-fledged game’. Though unsure where you’re bringing ‘masterpiece’ out of nowhere? Never called it that, just that it’s a good game for its content.
Why go back to ’40’…… I’m now questioning if you’re just a troll. I already went through that number. At that, it’s a bad analogy because Phantom Pain definitely isn’t ‘around the corner’…. It was $20 to $30 and now it’s $13 on PC and has been on sale on PSN many times. Kojima even stated this prologue would hold off the fanbase from Phantom Pain since the release date has been questioned so much.
Then what if we make a comparison in value? What if we compare MGS4, to Ground zeroes, which I’m pretty sure you could grab MGS4 for 20 dollars.
There’s a lot more replayability in MGS4, is there not? A lot more to do? It’s the norm for Demos to be given for free, and for full games to cost 40 dollars. People are used to having demos for free. It’s a tradition. Right now you could go on the playstation store and play a demo for free, with similar length and replayability to MGSV:GV.
Usually, I think when Prologues are mentioned, people think of full games that go before other games. In fact, I don’t think there’s a demo out there that acts as a prologue besides GZ. And what reason is there to question whether I’m trolling you? We’re just debating.
Then you’re comparing a game released in 2008 vs a game in 2013, and not taking into accord the decline of value a game has when it’s going on 2015 and you’re comparing 2008 (20$ bargain bin) to a 2013 $20-30 launch price. It’s not a good comparison at all. And GZ was never designated, nor marketed, nor spoken of, being a ‘Full game’. It was ‘ALWAYS’ called a Prologue, I generally always have to toss the Absolute and literal definition of ‘Prologue’ in peoples faces, it doesn’t deceive people, nor lie. Prologue was what GZ was called, and the definition of Prologue sounds very small. An ‘Opening’ to a play, stage or performance. By all means, if Kojima says “This game is an opening simply” – anyone who thinks “WHOA FULL GAME YAY!?!?!11” is an idiot :/
Your problem here now, is that from it being satirically called a Demo, you’re now comparing and acting as if it ‘IS’ infact a demo. When it isn’t, it being called a demo is a Joke, not the reality, the reality is – it’s just a short game. Just as Dead Rising 2’s Prologue story DLC, Case Zero was like, $5? And still not Free and still Short.
“Usually, I think when Prologues are mentioned, people think of full games that go before other games” – That is your error then, and no one elses. That is not what the word means at all as I said above.
“I don’t think there’s a demo out there that acts as a prologue besides GZ” – I just mentioned one above infact too – relating to Dead Rising 2. I question ‘trolling’ because your arguments have a lot of holes in it, or it goes from one thing to another without it being ‘full’ or concrete, feeling as if its loads of speculation, assumptions and half-broken knowledge of what you heard others say, or random pieces of articles you’ve read and made it your own knowledge, made it Heuristic Information that is in pieces and you plastered together and considered it Fool-proof and it stands out to me that I know much more on the topic and it just gives the feeling as if you’re piecing together simply what you’ve read and heard, rather than did your research properly :/
It’s a really short game, that’s why it’s a demo. It’s a taste of what’s to come. A DLC isn’t a demo.
And I don’t see anything wrong with the comparison. If GZ was more valuable than MGS4, it’d have more to do than MGS4. It’s not really an Error. A Prologue basically details the events that take place before the events of another story.
And they didn’t really say it wasn’t a full game, did they?
It’s a short game……short game does not equate to a demo. That is extremely flawed logic. It is a taste of what’s to come, but it’s also not DLC. It’s also not a demo. It’s a Prologue. Stop trying to give it labels that don’t reflect it. If you want another ‘Prologue’, maybe look no further than Gran Turismo’s Prologue.
‘More valuable’….? …. by basing the price point of a 2008 game to a 2013 game . . . . . ?
A prologue is an opening to the events that have yet to be shown. Why you’d refer or say a prologue is an opening for ‘another’ story I have no idea.
It’s never intelligent to say things like that. It’s like saying Scientists haven’t proven God doesn’t exist thus God exists. They never called it a full game, them never saying it wasn’t a full game does not translate to make it ‘Open to possibilities of it being a full game’……Seriously, I again question if you’re just a troll. Though, not to sound emotional over this but, I’m pretty much feeling like this is pointless, you don’t seem to be skilled in arguing points across and I’m getting a headache.
Technically, you can’t disprove or prove something that’s never been found. And is it possible you’re denying that it’s a demo for your own opinion? By definition a demo is; a demonstration of a product or technique.
A taste of what’s to come.
Also, they released what isn’t a full game next to games that are generally considered fully-fledged games. For the same price.
On another note.. I just realized, doesn’t the Big Boss we see in MGS4 have both sets of hands? I wonder how they got that out of the way.
If the story told in GZ is a prologue to PP then if that content is important to the story as a whole, then shouldn’t GZ just have been a full game or part of PP? Paying $20 for a small amount of content with a small amount of replayability, small because although you could choose to acquire certain individuals or not the 2nd or 3rd time around it becomes more of a chore, seems fairly steep. this would be more reasonable as $10 or maybe $15 (if you push it) DLC not as a separate game.
what a con. the game ground zeroes had become free content at one point.