Rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert… and rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert, rumor alert. And in case you did not get it, this is just a rumor so take everything you are about to read with a grain of salt.
Whatifgaming reported that The Division has already been downgraded visually. According to Whatifgaming, a source dev (whose identity cannot be revealed for obvious reasons) told them that the team has already took out ‘quite a lot of screen space reflections from the game’ and that the final product will not look as good as its E3 2013 reveal.
Here is the full email Whatifgaming received. As we’ve already said, take this with a grain of salt. Moreover, we don’t expect Ubisoft to confirm such a thing, even if this is legit information. As with Watch_Dogs, we’ll have to rely on what Ubisoft showed back in E3 2013 and we’ll compare the latest builds with that one in order to find out whether the game’s visuals are not up to what the French company showcased back then.
We really loved the reception to the demo we showed on the PC version at E3. Currently as it stands, there is definitely a lot of push coming from publishers to not make the experience so different on consoles as to alienate people into thinking that next generation is not as powerful as PC. This is probably what happened at Ubisoft Montreal. I think that while making stability changes is definitely important, it does not completely obliterate a lot of enhanced rendering applications.
Right now we already took out quite a lot of screen space reflections from the game and are working on asset management the best we can given consoles have that great unified memory. Naturally we will also be using online servers and have to produce a synchronization that higher graphics add to the latency so it had to be turned down. To me it still looks good, but not as good as the original reveal. I am sure as we get closer to launch and the actual console versions of the game featuring SD (Snowdrop) that it will start to seem all too obvious to people especially those on PCs. I just wanted to write and let you know that it definitely is not just stability but marketing politics plays into this a lot as well.
UPDATED 2nd Response from The Division Developer: Truth be told in regards to your question that while ‘Yes’ the lead platform is the PC, we simply cannot have such a big gap. As you know when the first WATCH DOGS Review was published by that one site, Ubisoft called it a “false review” and I am sure everyone can see how bad that sounded when they saw the game did look marginally better than something that was a last generation GTA IV. But no, they will not admit that they practice this or actively downgrade a game. It is much easier to say they removed things for stability which is often a lie as you can tell by the post-issues which are expected in any production we do.
Also to answer your 3rd question, no…they will never fully disclose what was removed from what build as no laws ask them to do so in terms of consumer rights. If we as developers published that information in very real terms for the consumer such as “Replaced particle fog simulation with 2d layer simulation in 3d space, removed particles from all explosions, lowered explosion volume multiplier by 20x, removed X # of trees and civilians, etc.” we would be out of a lot of sales and probably it would actually require too much time to deliver on the current hype that a lot of downgraded games see which look incredible with a vertical slice. I do share this in the hope’s that my colleagues and publishers and a lot of people who make false promises and do demonstrations which wrongfully create too much hype that they cannot deliver on ultimately stop doing such things. I want to see the industry actually move forward and not be so full of itself by promising too much and delivering too little. Regards
It remains to be seen whether Whatifgaming’s report is legit or not. As with Watch_Dogs, we’ll be sure as hell to compare various builds in order to find out whether the end product looks as good as the game’s E3 2013 reveal.
Kudos to our readers ‘[Chaotic]’ and ‘DJINFERNO806’ for informing us!
John is the founder and Editor in Chief at DSOGaming. He is a PC gaming fan and highly supports the modding and indie communities. Before creating DSOGaming, John worked on numerous gaming websites. While he is a die-hard PC gamer, his gaming roots can be found on consoles. John loved – and still does – the 16-bit consoles, and considers SNES to be one of the best consoles. Still, the PC platform won him over consoles. That was mainly due to 3DFX and its iconic dedicated 3D accelerator graphics card, Voodoo 2. John has also written a higher degree thesis on the “The Evolution of PC graphics cards.”
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Would anyone be surprised after Watch_Dogs? No. No they would not.
Consoles once more holding back superior PC gaming
Fu..c.k tha MONEY it destroys everything it touches
It’s not consoles that are holding stuff back, it’s the publishers that demand parity.
If PC and console versions were allowed to be as drastically different as they could be and would be if devs took full advantage of the potential power of high end PCs, there wouldn’t be a problem.
But consoles exist. Therein they are the problem.
No, publishers are.
Consoles are what is holding the industry back in the first place. Publishers enforce fixed spec and “Parity” because of the consoles. If there was no consoles. Publishers and developers could take advantage of the power and freedom available with PC gaming.
Consoles are the problem.
Publishers enforce platform parity because they are scared bitches. Scared they’ll lose a handful of sales and thus have less money to do coke. They don’t care about making good games, they only care about maximizing profits. Quality does not matter to them. They are a cancer to the industry, middlemen who only suck money out of the process of making games by blowing up the marketing budget. Who makes those decisions? The publishers decide that. They set the insane target numbers of how many copies need to be sold for something to be profitable.
What I’m trying to say is that even if you could wave a magic wand and make all consoles disappear, it wouldn’t fix the problems of the gaming industry. Publishers would still make sure that every new game is either a subscription based MMO or a Free2Play chock full with micro transactions and that their marketing budget is at least twice as high as the production costs, gotta ensure that 10/10 “it’s okay” from IGN, Kotaku and co with all that sweet ad placement, bags of extra swag for “journalists” and shipping them half around the globe to some island for an exclusive sneak peek at the latest piece of shit they have some poor frustrated and disillusioned dev crank out.
The problem is that developers themselves are mostly not business savy enough to do stuff on their own so they listen to those damn crooks, the publishers.
The problem is greedy publishers, not consoles.
PC is an open platform that allows everyone to compete and is not a DRM locked box where you have to pay up for the dev tools. CD Projekt got sick of the industry. Set up GOG for DRM free gaming and better customer services. PC marketplace allows for competition to appear naturally and offer better alternatives.
Publishers will be a problem but if you remove lowest common denominator consoles and push everything into an open platform. They will have to compete directly with companies like CDPR/GOG who offer better services. EA and Ubi want to DRM lock their games on PC because they can take their ball and go back to consoles if they couldn’t. If they were forced to compete with GOG, they would have to improve service drastically.
Consoles are still the problem. They encourage the culture of IGN paid reviews and publisher control. Remove them and force an open marketplace? Then publishers have to shape up.
Consoles ARE the problem.
Alright, you win, I give up.
So, how do you propose we kill the consoles?
Reading more and buying less consoles.
Spread the glory of the PC master race. Why live life on medium settings when you can ascend to Ultra?
Wanna give me a couple grand to upgrade my PC then?
you dont need even one grand for a upgrade.
Upgrading my rig to a GTX 980 (along with some additional compatible parts), currently, the fastest single GPU on the planet. The upgrade will cost me ~$950 AUD – and everything in Australia is over-priced. PC gaming is hardly as expensive as people make it out to be. My current card, a 2 GB GTX 760, cost me $250 AUD; it crushes console performance.
only scrawny, pasty, world of warcraft nerds play on PC. the problem is that you clowns are always begging for console ports
You seem so upset that the PC will have the best performing multiplatforms and the best gaming experience this generation that you resort to strawman arguments. PC will deliver better running games and cheaper games than consoles without online paywalls.
Stay mad. PC is the master race.
dont you have a life dan?
GOG’s fine, but it’s insignificant compared to Steam. And now even CDP develops for consoles. So yes, consoles are the problem, but DRM doesn’t come into this.
Not exactly. As others have pointed out, there’s an entire chain of causal events that ultimately leads to PC gamers receiving inferior games. Judging by your comments, you’re not only incorrectly assuming that the existence of consoles is the root of that chain, but also forgetting that this existential fact does not (on its own) necessitate that publishers pump out subpar PC games.
Essentially, your point is akin to blaming rape victims for the violence perpetrated against them due to the fact that they are attractive.
yes he is right. You your noodle and think about it.
The actual root of this problem isn’t the console hardware itself but the publishers and or Sony/Microsoft if they are pushing devs to do this.
If we didn’t have parity but the consoles still existed, there would be no issue right? You would just get the best version on PC and console versions would still exist for console gamers. And there wouldn’t be anything holding back PC games from excelling.
You can have console games that dont follow parity due to greedy publishers. CDPR and the witcher 3 are the perfect example. They independatly publish and so they can do whatever they want with the PC version and they do and they have. So as you can see, the console itself isnt the issue it just seems that way due to 90% of the publishers follow their stupid greed logic.
You remove shit publishers who like to suck Microsoft and Sony’s flimsy worm and the problem is solved, like the example I just gave you. WIll it happen? Most likely not, where there is potential of vast amounts of money, there will always be greed and a board of directors to demand shady practices.
tldr; greedy corporate execs are the cause.
Hopefully this makes sense to you.
Diji, the problem is just that, exactly.
90% of Games generally tend to sell more copies on Consoles (sometimes both Consoles, other times, even just the Xbox alone sells more than both the PS & the PC combined, in a handful of cases), which in turn makes Publishers want to have more focus on those Platforms, & saying that the “PC Version looks, plays, feels” better than the Console Version would completely clash with that.
Not only that, but when your Game sells 3-5x the Copies on the Xbox as on any other Platform, the other Platforms are just Ports to you, you don’t really care about them, you just do them in order to maximize profit, so why invest any extra time & attention to maximize the potential of the PC version, when it’ll make some quarter of the profits the Xbox will?
Consoles are an issue yes, but it’s not so much the Consoles themselves as the way Publishers & Sony/Microshit are treating the Consoles. Just take a look at Microshit’s E3 Presentation – a 90-minute ode to showcasing to Stockholders how much money they poured into timed-exclusive bullshit, low-age requirement Games, etc. It’s a sick joke, & since the Publishers get a cut of their own, they go with it.
Downgrading though, is just a catastrophe waiting to happen. You don’t showcase something big & fancy, only to take it away, & then expect nothing to happen, that’s just asking for the shitstorm. Either don’t show it at all, or delay the PC version, or Patch it in later, or whatever. It was a very stupid decision to make, & they’re suffering for it, but I see no reason to repeat it, considering what it’s costing them.
ya exactly, consoles would be fine on their own without the stupid publishers attached to them that we have now. But ya unfortunately its the way it is due to the money and greed.
I have said it before and I will keep saying it, there needs to be another video game industry crash like back in the day. Only then will companies get their shit together and maybe stop these garbage business practices.
Needs to be? Oh don’t worry, it’s coming 😉
Every time EA launches another Bug-riddled Bugfail 4, or Activision milks that CoD cow even more, or Ubisoft pulls some dumb shit, it gets another inch closer. They’re summoning it down upon themselves, all we need to do is sit back & watch 😀
No pc nerd just stop writing.
no you stop writing, you talk nonsense.
You are one dumb mofo, ain’t you?
Publishers are demanding parity between WHAT? Console and PC, so yes, consoles hold back PC.
You basement pc losers think you’re better than everyone else. Idiots.
Because we are better than you :^)
http://imgur.com/a/KYX0m
actually you console gamers think that.
no one even plays on PC. it’s a dead platform full of hackers. console games can’t hold back a dead platform. not having worthwhile games holds back a dead platform
Which is why Steam is raking in the cash right now with the biggest event in gaming, right?
Hilarious. PC is still the Master Race
cry some more pc is more sucessfull now than it ever was before.
Better graphics =/= Better game.
Better story equals better game. People like you are the root of the problem. Your so focused on graphics, that you could care less about a solid story. If only we could rid the world of you and your kind, gaming would be as it was before, true gaming!
I crearly that better graphics does NOT mean a better game. Did you even read what I wrote?
screw story i want better gameplay enough of this cinematic story bs.
Better story dictates the quality of the game? No way. Yes, gameplay is foremost, but I would argue that better visuals (artistic or technical) definitely add to the gameplay.
You would have nothing worth playing on PC if it weren’t for consoles, so unless you want to play Minecraft and Farmville for the rest of your life, then you should be kissing the feet of every console player.
where did battlefield start? pc.
where did cod start? pc.
where did nfs start? pc.
where did the idea of cpus, rams, and gpus come from? pc.
and most importantly,
did you write this on a console? nope.
And where did those games flourish? Consoles…. And where did the PC games that never jumped to console end up? Dead…… And ironically, no I’m not writing this form a pc, I’m writing this from my PS4. And are you seriously trying to give credit for advancements in computing technology to gaming? You’re just as dumb as I assume all PC gamers are. I love hearing about the Steam summer sale and how excited everyone gets, because ironically, all the games worth buying in the Steam summer sale I’ve already gotten for free through PS+.
seriously? you won’t even get ps+ if there were no computers. oh wait, did you just seriously write this on a ps4? nope, just… nope…
battlefield flourishes on consoles? you must be either blind or something….
“And where did those games flourish? ”
You mean go to die. They flourished on pc and turned into sht on consoles and died.
“advancements in computing technology to gaming?” You call your inferior, underpowered, out-dated hardware an “advancement”? Consoles are taking gaming backwards.
pc has more games than all consoles combined, so cry some more. Also thumbing up your own comment 3 times? wow
But they doing that, creating hype o_0 and then downgrade game visuals as they did with WD 🙁
So next game will be the same Hype and then downgrade, i think i cannot buy a Console looking game to my Monster PC so no $ from me. I preffer EA and FrostBite 3 with Mantle. And they will receive $ from me… DA I ME O and more to come from EA
and by the way i deleted the WD yesterday after fail patch and freeze all the time after 30-1h of playing. Lev 25 2 Act
It’s gotten to the point that downgrades aren’t even news, just something to be expected. That’s why nobody should ever pre-order anything.
Nah, AFAICT Ubisoft are the only ones doing it.
Screw them I say.
Watch Dogs is a fiasco, not only from the downgrade, but the performance is horrible as well.
From/Namco did it with Dark Souls 2. There are still a number of pre-downgrade screens on the official site.
Two games have been clearly downgraded, both during one year. Before that no-one even knew the word. I wouldn’t say downgrading has become so common that it isnt news.
The preorder scheme is the whole reason this stuff can even happen at all. Without preorders false advertising would be close to impossible in the games industry.
Bait and switch. Bait and switch…
Surprising no one.
Hang on, he said PC is lead platform for The Division? Werent Ubisoft telling PC gamers to “sign petitions, get on the forums and post their requests.” if they wanted it on PC after they revealed it as a console only game at E3?
Ahh, probably just Ubisoft lying again. If this is legit then it just proves what people where saying about Watch_Dogs being downgraded on purpose in order to look closer to the PS4 version to be true.
That part struck me as odd. PC lead platform after snubbing it? Doesn’t make sense.
It’s the lead platform for their fake E3 presentations.
ubisoft massive= world in conflict developers not exactly ubisoft they said in a article it was originally a pc mmo exlusvie then they looked at consoles and ported it there as well as changed the gameplay to me more console like, they didnt think pc gamers would want it.
Then again ubisoft lies al lthe time.
Now I’m really scared about how crippled Assassin’s Creed Unity will end up.
How about this: DON’T BUY IT. Show them that you won’t put up with this.
Agreed , not even bothering at all with AC unity at all , they’ve lost the plot on the series , I’ll wait till its $10 in one of the game stores then pickup a copy , Far Cry 4 will also be a wait compared to Far Cry 3 where it was a day one purchase for me, apart from console limitations holding PC gaming back last gen, it’s still doing it again.
“DON’T BUY IT.” means don’t buy it at all :
I don’t doubt that The Division will be downgraded to hell and back before it’s actually released but what I doubt is the authenticity of that letter. Why send it to such a small and unknown site as “Whatifgaming”? What are the chances any dev even knows it exists? There aren’t even comments on that page as far as I can tell, the navigation is horrible etc.
If a whistleblower wants to blow a whistle, I think they would choose a louder whistle, in this case a publication with more readers.
Why would you even bother claiming its a rumor alert John? The hardware E3 demos and reveals were shown on is 2x more powerful than the combined hard number throughput of the PS4 AND Xbox One.
Seriously. After Watch Dogs, nobody expects Ubisoft to keep their word about any of their games, and most importantly; this is a UBISOFT title. It’s full of shit on arrival.
Well we already knew it would get downgraded to keep consistent 30fps on bloody console version anyway.
At the end of the day I just hope the actual gameplay is good enough to keep coming back for more. Most MMO’s after reaching level cap there isn’t much to do, so when they release new city areas as times goes on it would be good to have more end game content.
it’s more like an online coop shooter than an mmo, just like destiny, is it really an mmo ?
It will be somewhat like destiny, the devs have stated that its online only with many players, its entirely your choice to play alone, join a guild or just play with friends. New York is filled with PvE NPC’s and there are a few different factions working to protect the city or destroy it completely to kill off the virus. Also there will be many random PvP events like what destiny has which your campaign progress will halt until you are finished with that combat event.
So essentially this is an MMO down to its basic core as there is a level system, skill tree, inventory, crafting, high level raids areas for the best loot. Even if you solo you will come across many other players while you are playing, For other PvP stuff your guild can fighter over a specially designate building to claim as their home base of operations.
“we already knew it would get downgraded to keep consistent 30fps on bloody console version”
Surely, you realize that only the console version would have to be downgraded to deliver stable console performance. There’s more to it than “optimization”. It’s a deliberate bait and switch marketing strategy.
Yeah I know that but PC version seem to be console ports in terms of visual fidelity, Just like their last games Watch Dogs, Assassin’s Creed 4, Far Cry 3, Splinter Cell Blacklist.
So thats Far Cry 3, Dark Souls 2, Watch Dogs & soon-to-be The Division; NERFED. FAIL.
Far Cry 3 nerfed? When did that happen?
there is a video on youtube that compared it’s final build to it’s E3
not just them. Ghost recon and splinter cell blacklist as well
Haven’t played ghost recon ,but i can assure you ,Blacklist hasn’t been downgraded at all.
it did but not visually, they removed kill in motion mechanic from the final build.
oh ,they’re just a bad quality companie ,you only hear about them more now because is the beggining of a new generation ,which is when they are always more important ,but even so ,this start was way worse than the previous one ,don’t worry ,just spread the voice to convence people to not buy their games.
Why am I not surprised! -_-
because of those weak consoles we pc gamers are suffering
To be fair, it’s not the power of the console that is the problem, it’s how often they’re upgraded. A PS4 would have been incredible five years ago (even if it wasn’t as powerful as the current PS4), but Sony and Microsoft stretched the lifespan of the PS3 and 360 to nearly a decade. Just imagine if Sony and Microsoft upgraded their consoles every year like Apple does with the iPad.
Except that the entire problem spans from this: PS3 & X360 cost a fortune to develop in the beginning, so Microshit & Sony were selling them at a loss for years, making money off of the Royalties & Paid Services they provided instead of the actual Hardware itself. It’s only in the last few years that the Consoles themselves have actually made Sony & Microshit a profit.
Tablets, Smartphones etc. on the other hand, are instant re-coups, which is one of the primary reasons Apple & co invest so much into constantly launching new, upgraded versions of them.
On the bright side, Microshit is pushing the Console into becoming a “Media Hub” more & more, so eventually they’ll phase out of the Mainstream Video Game Market in favour of focusing on Media in general, & we’ll be rid of their “I pay you, you make this exclusive to my Console for the first month” bullshit.
Hopefully.
“I JUST WANTED TO WRITE AND TELL YOU THAT IT DEFINITELY IS NOT JUST STABILITY BUT [b]MARKETING POLITICS[/b] PLAYING INTO THIS AS WELL”
Marketing Politics! Marketing…….. POLITICS!
Wait, wait. Are you freaking telling me there are SO MANY redneck, inbred, failed-out-of-HS idiot consumers across this country that will plop down 2 weeks salary to buy a PS4 or XB1 PURELY because of a game they saw on a commercial that looks “JUST AS GOOD” as the pc version of it they will NEVER see anyway? Whaaaaatt???
THAT is the ridiculously specific demographic that Ubisoft is afraid of losing and will tell, no FORCE their design teams to remove cutting edge graphics and systems from my pc versions to accomplish it?
This can’t be legit. It is too STUPID to be an actual existing dynamic.
Especially after they realized the idiocy of doing it even just once with Watch_Dogs.
If this is true, I can only think of 3 reasons why:
A. Either Ubisoft is that fucking retarded,
B. Ubisoft is SERIOUSLY fucking retarded, or
C. Ubisoft is actively trying to be elected “Worst Company in America”, either because they think becoming EA is a good thing (see points A & B), or they think it’ll bring them more Profile, i.e. Sales… (again, see points A & B).
Capcom tried to become EA. Didn’t work out for them.
Let me walk you through how Ubisoft’s advertising strategy works:
They build a game with really good graphics on PC. They advertise this PC version of the game but claim that it’s the console version. Then they scrap the PC version entirely and do damage control in youtube comment sections etc. when they launch the downgraded console version of the game on all platforms. If they gave you the advertised version and only consoles got the downgrade console users would wake up to the bait and switch scheme. They would realize that ALL game advertising is done on PC regardless of what version developers claim to be showing (remember the PCs masked as consoles at E3 booths) and whenever a new game is shown the majority of the audience (console owners) would be cautious, knowing that they are going to get something inferior from the start.
Look at the people in this thread clinging to the notion that this marketing strategy was a one time thing against all evidence to the contrary (past Ubisoft games).
not surprised at all…from now on every game will be downgraded, regardless what the company promises.. only few will probably wont? who knows..
Ubisoft strike again no surprise
Actually the games get downgraded for consoles to keep them closer to powerful PC’s that are even 2 years old. We’ll have to rely on our graphics card vendors to enhance the PC experience.
of course it will be downgraded, after all ubis**t is a peasant company and their games must run on those tardboxtations
Tardboxstation shills will probably call you entitled
http://i.imgur.com/dEADTkZ.png
Oh please, there’s no way Ubisoft would actually be stupid enough to do this again.
The amount of backslash they got for downgrading Watch_Dogs alone must have caused them to reconsider that entire retarded idea & make sure it never happens again. Either that, or they’re actually actively trying to be the EA of New-Gen Consoles.
Besides: Anonymous source on a minor, unknown website? Check. Come on people, at least wait until the next Build before you give yourselves Pink Socks trying to shit on Ubisoft so much, maybe?
“The amount of backslash they got for downgrading Watch_Dogs alone must
have caused them to reconsider that entire retarded idea & make sure
it never happens again.”
You seem unaware that Watch Dogs was a smash hit. And look at your double think. You admit that Ubisoft is guilty of false advertising and that surely they need to change their ways or consumers won’t buy their next game but in the same post you go on to defend them and cling to the delusion that The Division won’t be downgraded. This naive mindset is precisely why false advertising works. Wait until the next “build”? The next build will still look good because it will still be a marketing build, not a release build. The real downgrade comes at launch. Will you wait until after launch with your purchase? NO??? Well, that’s how false advertising works. Market one product, deliver another. People like you will fall for it again and again. Did you buy AC3? Did you buy Far Cry 3? Did you buy Watch Dogs? If you bought more than one of these games you’ve already enabled the scam once and are currently planning on doing so again. Great job.
That’s why he said “take it give a grain of salt”. E3 The Division was running on a high end PC, only Ubisoft don’t admit it like some devs do, Rocksteady admitted that Batman Arkham knight was running on PC. The simple fact of the matter is that all devs know PC is best to showcase their games because of the amount of detail they can push and power they can have.
It’s doesn’t matter that the game uses 780 or 780 SLI ,some people have them and to have an option for that setting for the people that do is what makes PC the best.
90% of E3 Presentations have been running on PC for years (with the obvious exception of Console-Exclusives) New-Gen Consoles weren’t going to change that, anyone could have called that from a mile away.
Now don’t mis-understand me, I have a set of 780s in SLi myself (Nvidia Surround Monitor Setup), I’d love to see a Game that really brings on the stress, but whether it’ll be the Division or not, I don’t know. What I do know is that while sure, Ubisoft has a questionable history with this stuff, the fact stands that there’s no single frame of evidence that points to any of this rumour being actually true, so all this rage going around might as well be for absolutely nothing, but these dumb twats are taking it for granted that Ubisoft is going to pull another Watch_Dogs on us.
they are not stupid. they are liers, they will do this for eternity
“there is definitely a lot of push coming from publishers to not make the
experience so different on consoles as to alienate people into thinking
that next generation is not as powerful as PC”
That’s right:
“publishers to not make the experience so different on consoles as to alienate people into thinking”
Nooo, we wouldn’t that 🙂
You know, if consoles were a way to make gaming cheaper for low income families I would be all for it. But it really isn’t. In the long run it’s as expensive as PC gaming, you just get less quality for the same price in a “have now, pay later” scheme just like cellphone contracts. Paying a subscription fee for the online side of things and a higher price per game console users end up putting 700+ dollars into their system / into the pockets of Microsoft or Sony.
Consoles are not the budget option. A 500 dollar PC is the budget option, consoles are a scam.
The entry price isn’t that high in theory. 500 dollars were the Xbone’s launch price and I’m sure not everyone who bought it was rich. One issue that I see as a major hurdle for the average consumer is the horrible pricing and choice of components in prebuilt PCs. A consumer with no extensive background knowledge on what parts to buy and where to buy them will simply not get a well-balanced system at a fair price. People buy “gaming PCs” for 1000 dollars that perform no better than what I could build for half the price. Stores will charge over 100 dollars just for assembly, they will include nonsensical features like two optical drives, large SSDs and overpowered CPUs and save money in the worst places: GPU and cooling. So people end up with these noisy unstable computers that are good for maybe two years. And then they write bad reviews and warn others not to buy a gaming PC.
If there were a store out there dedicated to build quality PCs with an emphasis on price/performance, a store you could recommend to all the disillusioned console users as a way out I’m sure PC would be even more successful as a gaming platform than it already is. But for the time being all you can tell them is: It’s really cheap when you buy the components and put it together yourself and unless you’re going to trust someone else you’re going to have to do a shitload of reading to select the right components.
And that’s not a good sales pitch.
If you cared about saving power and value/money in general you would be smart so no, that can’t be.
The point would be to have a cooler, cheaper card that gets you the same framerate as its hotter, more expensive predecessors. Don’t tell me you blew your money on a fucking Titan. Come on, man.
So what, we’ll mod this too.
Consoles are getting more and more annoying everyday .
So that’s it : Ubisoft is now crossed off my list.
And that’s coming from a french guy who used to buy and play a lot of
their games… So much disrespect for PC players… Never again. Time to
draw the line, this shit has to stop. Like now.
“There isn’t a single screenshot, video, nothing.”
There’s actually a gameplay video and several screenshots all of which are visibly downgraded from the original trailers and screenshots but don’t let that stop you from defending them. They’re not going to downgrade it anymore, r-right?
Ubisoft and EA are equals who both screw their customers with different flavors of bait and switch marketing. Essentially, Ubisoft promises “better” every time while delivering more of the same and EA promises “just as good” while delivering something worse than the last time. Ultimately the quality of their games is fairly similar even though I’ll admit that EA has launched more complete and utter failures. Ubisoft seems more determined to maintain their level of mediocrity. I guess that’s why you prefer them? Because they don’t skip QA completely, they just do it wrong?
P.S. I commend you for not buying before or at launch though. I guess you’re not technically part of the problem, you just turn a blind eye to it.
Let’s face it’s not a rumor, this is just leaked insider information. When was the last time there was a game rumor and it turned out to be false
There have been 25173 false game rumors since you posted 6 hours ago.
consoles sucks
Conspiracy Theorys ^
This is nonsense. This is someone saying exactly what PC fanatics want to hear so they can hate on Ubisoft. PC gaming is inherently limited by the need to have reasonable minimum specs. The idea that they are downgrading the graphics you can theoretically get on a $6000 rig to make people feel better about $400 consoles is ludicrous.
try 500$
To all the gutter PC players out there, you would have nothing worth playing on PC if it weren’t for consoles, so unless you want to play Minecraft and Farmville for the rest of your life, then you should be kissing the feet of every console player.
where did battlefield start? pc.
where did cod start? pc.
where did nfs start? pc.
where did the idea of cpus, rams, and gpus come from? pc.
and most importantly,
did you write this on a console? nope.
And where did Crytek go to die? Consoles.
infact most of what we play today are pc franchises, deus ex, hitman, fallout, wolfenstein. etc etc
you should change your name to TrueIdiot cause thats what you are
you would have nothing worth playing on PC if it weren’t for consoles,
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pc has more exlusives than all consoles combined.
Also pretty good ones
Pc has entire genres that you dont get to see on consoles.
But apparently its not worth playing unless it has amazing graphics, has mandatory multiplayer and it plays like and interactive movie.
Typical cosnole fanboy logic.
“you should be kissing the feet of every console player.”
Yes thanks for not buying wolfenstein 2009 and singularity, true great fps games, which lead into raven software closing down so activision could turn them into a cod map pack studio.
Thanks for not buying scary games, so horror games could be turned into action games with mandatory coop.
Thanks for buying cod and gta, but smaller titles like sleeping dogs and woflenstein dont sell well.
Thanks for dumbing down elder of scrolls, fallout, dragon age and turn them into action games.
Thanks for buying so many copies of cod, that every dev things the only way to make fps is to make them like cod.
Thanks for contributing into making tomb raider a 100 million cinematic action game instead of a good tomb raider game.
Thanks for the sole fact that more studios have clossed down the last 5 years than ever before in the history of gaming.
Didnt sony and ms show indies in e3? nfact thats all they showed, seems to me the future is indies and AAA development is too expensive and no one can make exlusives or AAA games, expect this generation of cosnoles to give you more of them same, more generic action games, no innovation, more sequels to franchises like halo and assassin creed and so on
Thanks console gaming!!
And thus Ubisoft takes the final plunge away from “company I buy games from” to “company who’s games I used to play.”
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Google knows it.
lol
I’m not a PC gamer, but that’s a shady business tactic either way. Ubisoft, take a good, long look at Capcom. You wanna be in that position? Keep pissing people off like this and that’s exactly where you will end up.
I have a very difficult time seeing the benefit to this practice.
I’m a PC gamer at heart but I also enjoy the hell out of my PS4.
I would expect games to look better on my $1500 gaming rig than a $400 PS4.
What console owner would decide not to buy a PS4 or Xbone game because it looked better on the PC? I have a difficult time believing that this actually happens.
And for God’s sake stop with the “consoles are the problem” b.s. I’m a PC gamer at heart but there are plenty of people out there that can’t afford to plunk down the money for a high end gaming pc. A $400 PS4 is an awfully nice gaming machine for someone on a budget.
Consoles aren’t the problem, shi**y publishers and dev studios are.
but you dont need a high end pc, eg 750 ti beats ps4 on bf4.
id settle for sony’s pr department too many lies and overhype.
agreed
Not surprising after the Watch Dogs incident. I’m guessing when the public calls them out on it, they’ll blame “performance issues”.
its ubisoft. of course its downgraded to the max (heh irony)
Oh, please. Don’t do this to gaming UbiSoft, please.