It was only a matter of time until the Liberty City total conversion for GTA V was shut down, especially after what happened with OpenIV. After all, the team behind this total conversion mod was the same one responsible for OpenIV. As such, we are sad to inform you that the Liberty City mod has been cancelled.
For what it’s worth, Rockstar Games claimed that it will release an official statement about this whole thing soon, so stay tuned for more.
GooD-NTS, lead developer of the OpenIV mod, shared some additional details about what happened.
- At May 19th, 2017, I received an email from the legal counsel for Take Two Interactive in the USA. In this email they has requested to stop immediately any further work and/or distribution of OpenIV and “Liberty City in GTAV” projects.
- In belief, that we did not violate any laws, I asked them to provide more detailed information about their request. They agreed to provide details by email.
- On June 5th, 2017, after two weeks of silence, I got C&D letter from lawyers company (legal representative of Take Two in Russia), both in electronic and paper form, to my employer address. This C&D accuses me in Russian laws violations.
- After many heavy thoughts, we had decided to agree with their claims. We did not make it easily; it is very hard decision for us.
PC gamers appear to be really frustrated by this whole thing and have decided to flood GTA V’s Steam store page with negative reviews.
As said, Rockstar will soon issue an official statement, so stay tuned for more!
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Where did they announce that they’ll make a statement?
Rockstar’s official statement:
“We will continue to support the modding community as long as they don’t do anything at all. We’re doing this for our fans so shut up.”
It’s Take 2 , not Rockstar
Same thing, really, as Take-Two has barely anything left to them these days aside from Rockstar.
Except, what do they actually publish, these days? After all, Rockstar publishes its own games, so they’re down to, what, Mafia III? Gearbox Software’s latest piece of sh*t? Assorted sports franchises? Wanna-be Bioshock remasters?
They’re big, but aside for the fact that they’re Rockstar’s parent company, they’re all but irrelevant to most people.
– Civilisation is being run into the ground
– Bioshock is dead, those remasters were a last-ditch attempt at making some extra profits, & they blew it
– Borderlands is a joke, the fad is gone
– XCOM is dead
– Yay, sports!
They haven’t released a new IP in I don’t even know how many years anymore, they haven’t had a presentation at E3 in I don’t even know how long anymore, etc. etc. etc. They’re fast becoming obsolete & irrelevant to your average gamer, sports franchises aside.
– Civ 6’s reception was sh*t & its sales numbers so far are sh*t.
– Both remasters still have unpatched bugs that make them unplayable. They’re wiping save files, they’re crashing, etc. In the face of that, who gives a sh*t about a f*cking review score from some sycophantic website. Also; even if there is a new one in production (which there isn’t), without a good director, it’ll be sh*t. Besides, after Bioshock Infinite, nobody wants it to come back anyway, not with Levine in charge, not with anyone in charge. It’s over, it’s done, let it rest in peace.
– A tech video got a few million views. Wow, fascinating. And, since when do YouTube views directly translate into sales, exactly? At best it translates into curiosity, a desire for more information &/or a general interest. Hell, I watched the f*cking video, doesn’t mean I’m going to buy the damn game. Sh*t, some people probably watched it out of sheer shock (“wtf? Borderlands 3? Seriously?”).
The real question here is “how many former sycophants have become aware of exactly how sh*t Borderlands is?” And the answer to that seems to be “a lot”, so in the end its will seemingly come down to how many new idiots Take-Two can sell this entry to.
– XCOM 2’s reception was sh*t. Its sales numbers compared to the original are sh*t. Even if they’ve made enough of a profit to approve the development of XCOM 3, unless they shape up, the IP is doomed.
– Yes, sports games sell very well, indeed. And they’re also completely irrelevant as far as I’m concerned. The people who buy sports games overwhelmingly don’t care who makes them, & most people who buy non-sports games don’t buy sports games, so there’s only so much overlap between those two markets.
Money =/= importance. Take-Two makes sh*ttonnes money, sure, but the only studio of theirs that anyone knows by name is Rockstar, seeing as Gearbox is technically an independent. On the other hand, EA has brand names; EA, BioWare, DICE. Activision is a brand name. Blizzard is a brand name. Hell, Sh*tbox is a brand name, even, whereas Take-Two is just “who?” I doubt if most people even know or care about who publishes Civilisation, XCOM, etc.
Point of view. Here’s another one, for example;
“[Rumor] Mafia 3 needs to sell 8 million units to be a success; hasn’t even sold 1 million
This could be the end of the Mafia series.”
It scored 4.5 million sales in its first week (including refunds?), after which it dropped almost completely flat onto its face, so I doubt it’s going to hit that number.
Besides, even if it does (or maybe the rumour is wrong, who knows) & one removes the launch issues from the equation, that doesn’t change the fact that in the end, the content itself is still only so good, which overall resulted in a thoroughly inferior entry to its predecessor, so again, even if they do get a sequel into production, unless they shape up, the IP will die with it.
Yeah, that’s right, you got me. Oh & while we’re at it, here’s some more of my “opinions”;
– Civilisation 5:
User reviews:
RECENT: Very Positive (89%) (629 reviews)
OVERALL: Overwhelmingly Positive (96%) (66,480 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 9,978,276 ± 90,852 (Note: that’s not including the majority physical sales, obviously)
Release date: Sep 21, 2010
– Civilisation 6:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mixed (56%) (506 reviews)
OVERALL: Mostly Positive (72%) (20,149 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 1,935,548 ± 40,409
Release date: Oct 20, 2016
I guess the other 8+ million sales are….. “on their way”, right? Civ 6 will just “catch up” given enough time & discounts? Pray tell, will the game’s ratings also “catch up”?
(Note: Owners of the original Bioshock games got the remasters for free)
– Bioshock:
User reviews:
RECENT: Very Positive (85%) (108 reviews)
OVERALL: Very Positive (94%) (13,788 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 3,673,396 ± 55,551
– Bioshock Remastered:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mixed (63%) (158 reviews)
OVERALL: Mixed (49%) (5,181 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 3,673,396 ± 55,551
– Bioshock 2:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mixed (69%) (55 reviews)
OVERALL: Very Positive (90%) (6,190 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 3,673,396 ± 55,551
(Bioshock 2’s “mixed” being because of tech issues)
– Bioshock 2 Remastered:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mostly Negative (38%) (104 reviews)
OVERALL: Mixed (43%) (1,559 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 3,263,369 ± 52,385
– Bioshock Infinite:
User reviews:
RECENT: Very Positive (87%) (372 reviews)
OVERALL: Overwhelmingly Positive (95%) (44,404 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 4,657,681 ± 62,478
It’s funny how it still manages to sit at 95%, yet all I hear is mixed opinions about it, constantly. But yeah, sure, that’s an opinion, just like how many people don’t want to see Ken Levine heading another Bioshock game is also an opinion, but regardless; there is no new Bioshock game in development, as Take-Two has no intentions of touching that franchise anymore. Irrational Games has even been rebranded into Ghost Story Games in order to reflect their new focus (see: Google).
The Borderlands Tech video is an opinion, sure. Then again, all I hear is mixed reviews these days, so there’s no way to prove anything either way until the game actually launches.
– XCOM: Enemy Unknown:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mostly Positive (78%) (160 reviews)
OVERALL: Overwhelmingly Positive (95%) (22,816 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 3,499,190 ± 54,229 (note: game had free weekend, numbers unreliable)
Release date: Oct 8, 2012
– XCOM: Enemy Within (expansion pack):
User reviews:
RECENT: Very Positive (84%) (13 reviews)
OVERALL: Very Positive (91%) (1,011 reviews)
SteamSpy: no numbers available
– XCOM 2:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mostly Positive (77%) (269 reviews)
OVERALL: Mostly Positive (78%) (13,129 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 1,429,552 ± 34,749
Release date: Feb 4, 2016
So, the other sales must be on their way, right? All we need to do is give the game more time?
Sports games’ fanbases only overlap with actual gamers to an extent, this is a proven fact, not an opinion.
Take-Two isn’t a brand name. Not an opinion, a fact.
– Mafia II:
User reviews:
RECENT: Very Positive (88%) (186 reviews)
OVERALL: Very Positive (93%) (11,706 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 2,575,854 ± 46,580 (Note: that’s not including the majority physical sales, obviously)
Release Date: 22 Mar, 2011
– Mafia III:
User reviews:
RECENT: Mixed (49%) (243 reviews)
OVERALL: Mixed (45%) (10,767 reviews)
SteamSpy Owners: 522,396 ± 21,029
Release Date: 7 Oct, 2016
Oh yeah, I’m sure it’ll catch up to its predecessor in a few years, definitely.
So, yeah, plenty of incentives for another XCOM & Mafia sequel, don’t you think? Whereas Civilisation is definitely not suffering from the inferiority of its latest entry, absolutely not. Whereas Bioshock’s Remasters have been so well received, right?
Leaving us with; Borderlands is now irrelevant – opinion, sure, but hey, ask around if you want. Nobody wants another Bioshock sequel, especially not by Levine; sure, some (many, even) will want a new Bioshock, but from Kenny “Bioshock Infinite” Levine? Doubtful – assuming Take-Two is even interested in the first place. Sports fanbases don’t overlap that much & last but not least; Take-Two is not a brand name. It isn’t. Your average mainstream nobody at least knows EA, Activision, U-BE-SOFT, etc. but Take-Two? Harder. Way harder.
Nope, it’s both of them.
“As said, Rockstar will soon issue an official statement, so stay tuned”
WE ARE C3NTS
This is the only statement they need to make
And Jim Sterling uploaded a video about this issue just now. Thank God for Jim.
No.
Hey, it’s his catchphrase :)). Love him, hate him, he did a good job on that video.
I guess none of his buddies must be working at Take Two or Rockstar or else he’d be condemning the modding community for harassing those poor innocent publishers.
Thanks for the heads-up. I just viewed said video. Great stuff! He made a clear distinction, based on past evidence, that this fiasco is likely Take-Two’s doing rather than Rockstar’s fault. Also, there’ll be a Jimquisition about Bethesda’s recent shenanigans so I’m looking forward to that.
Look up the recent Steam reviews for GTA 5 and have a laugh.
Great to see. It’s quite the response. Whether Take-Two do the right thing in response remains to be seen…
In lieu of OpenIV ban I also left my negative review there. Goddamn a-holes.
It would be a blessing if rockstar made an announcement saying theyre cutting ties with TAKE TWO. but in reality that probably wont happen
that can’t because 2k owns rockstar
guess there going the jew route like bethesda and will be doing paid mods or some crap to nickle and dime all the goyim
wow way to upvote your own comment…fcking pathetic. Youre right though about them probably getting ready to do paid mods though so ill give you that. But upvoting yourself is like laughing at your own joke. It looks sad and weak
He’s been doing that for a while.
Always no filter and self-upvote.
Best thing is the replies to people who upvote their comments.
Tbh I have no opinion on up-voting your own comments but people consider laughing when you say a joke “sad and weak”?
Oh my Brahma…
payed mod is happening right now
bethesda is making a coup d’etat on the modding community with their “creation club”
i knew this was coming, but i think more publishers are gonna follow in their footsteps
#AAAisdoomed
F*ck this, I’m done. Never buying any 2K (e.g. Take Two) published game again. Between delaying all PC releases from R* to incentivize multiple purchases, all the customer support issues that have come with the thousands of people who’ve been falsely banned from GTA Online, and now shutting down the entire modding scene for their game, they’re gotten worse than Activision as far as I’m concerned.
What if the mod authors still make the mods and release it anonymously so Take Mass2 cannot do sh!!t to them? Or is that just too revolutionary?
I don’t know?! but i have a feeling that this shut down BS is happening because of this…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0a51bb9950bf3d3e01c7e8bcbb05c809abee6a9dc78d311f3cc3c4c4ce314c7.jpg
It seems to fit with how MS is locking down mods and other content with Minecraft on Win 10 and that marketplace, Bethesda with their community mod shop and T2 with their recent talk on GTA V being “under monetized”.
I can easily see T2 wrapping up mods and selling them as DLC. They already sell all kinds of standard vehicles like candy.
Notice how these publishers are starting to shaft us this way since modding became a thing on the X86-based current-gen consoles.
It seems that they were in the main prepared to turn a blind eye to modding when it was largely a PC-only thing but now there’s more money to be made from the massed ranks of console gamers they’re no longer doing that.
Console gamers are used to being shafted from every direction because it goes with the territory but this is extremely bad form by the likes of Take-Two and Zenimax.
The horrific idea of all this is that console players are used to getting shafted (PC players too, but differently) , while PC players can avoid or fix what is broken. If they take away any and all form of mods as well as controlling them,, then the platform in general is screwed, though I can’t really see that happening since they cannot control every person on the planet and nothing is entirely safe or secure anyway.
I just don’t like how this gen has publishers really wanting to steal and shut down in a big and open way.
Precisely. That is the chief reason for why we as PC gamers should be fighting this in any and all ways at our disposal. Our reaction forced Zenimax and Valve to back down before so we need to react with equal hostility now that publishers are trying it again by different means.
It’s too easy to blame it all on the consoles when the root cause is the appalling greed of certain triple-A publishers. The bean counters seemingly won’t rest until they’ve ruined everything for everybody but themselves.
Last time I buy a GTA game. Take Two can get bent.
Take Two’s response will be something like this,
We will continue to support modding once we get our cut of the pie.
In other words paid DLC for that which used to be free.
Don’t bother supporting them anymore, speak with your money.
Support devs like CD Projekt Red(Witcher 3), Gave us free and decent dlc along with cheap price expansions worthy of full price games, also mods still allowed(for now at least).
Yep support liars who downgraded the crap out of their game, lied about releasing a full-fledged Modding Tool and released some crappy stump instead. Yeah support these guys. Dumba$$.
I fully agree that they f*cked up, but they’re still leagues better than the opposition, sadly, which is why I’m giving them until 2077 to get their sh*t together, personally.
But yeah, agreed, of course.
Still no pre-ordering though.
Pre-order? What’s that? A marketing scam?
Sure sounds like one…….
I am supporting these guys Dumba$$!
You go pay $300 for your 50 mods that I’ll get for free.
$300 for 50 mods? Whaaa? Sheep reflex must have messed with your perception. If you must know I have a GOG version with 37 free mods installed.
payed mods is back…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7AgLSWFz9k
they are actively deleting threads and banning users for valid criticism
wow, rockstar is truely dead
Rockstar’s statement:
“Take-Two’s actions were not specifically targeting single player mods. Unfortunately OpenIV enables recent malicious mods that allow harassment of players and interfere with the GTA Online experience for everybody. We are working to figure out how we can continue to support the creative community without negatively impacting our players.”
Source – http://www.pcgamer.com/heres-rockstars-statement-about-take-two-shutting-down-gtas-openiv-modding-tool/
Typical damage control. Does Online not launch at all with mods installed?
Why didn’t they keep there mouths closed until it was ready for launch? This isn’t the first time a company has done this.
“On June 5th, 2017, after two weeks of silence, I got C&D letter from lawyers company (legal representative of Take Two in Russia), both in electronic and paper form, to my employer address. This C&D accuses me in Russian laws violations.”
Note this isn’t the first time they’ve tracked someone down IRL & harassed them by intruding directly into their lives, instead of just trying to remain civil & communicating through e-mail like a normal person.
Hell, even Nintardo’s never gone this far.
You’re a faggotttt thats why ????????????
And you’re a 10-year old console plebeian that’s about to get banned for being a little sh*t.
????????????
yep. they love sending “private instigators” to harass people and attempt to intimidate them with what may be even unrealistic threats of legal action they may not even be allowed to take. Most little people naturally buckle down and they get their way. It’s okay, I’m no longer paying for single-player games and content regardless of where it comes from. I’ll be pooling the money I save and see just how much it is at the end of the summer and in winter. If it’s quite a sum, I may move onto simply purchasing bots for multiplayer games rather than spending on those as well. And then take it from there.
I support all of take twos decisions. We’ve been modding for 10 years and i think its time for us to say goodbye to all that senseless time wasting crap. Besides its all been illegal since say 1, so why are you all crying? Would you like to see someone make use of your software in stupid senseless ways? Definitely not
“i think its time for us to say goodbye to all that senseless time wasting crap.”
Okay. Bye GTA, you senseless time wasting piece of sh*t.
Bye books, bye movies, bye video games, you senseless time wasting pieces of sh*t.
“Besides its all been illegal since say 1”
Uh, what?
“Would you like to see someone make use of your software in stupid senseless ways? Definitely not”
No, yeah, you’re right; f*ck originality. BUY THE UNORIGINAL GENERIC SH*T FOR OVERPRICED AMOUNTS OF MONEY, INSTEAD!
Moron.
Butthurt much? ??????????????????
Why, because we picked up yet another console plebeian troll that’s going to get banned soon enough if they keep going like this?
…….
Nope.
report this scumbag as a Take#(number)2 shill and then block it.
Go have intercourse with your father you fairy
It’s because the new GTA must have some liberty city in it and they hope to release it in the future. Stopping the mod means their new game will sell more.
Or so they figure, using the age-old completely antiquated & overwhelmingly disqualified theory that modding = lost DLC sales…..
Heh, typical AAA publisher.
the irony is that modding has already proven to increase the sale sof many games, even older games. I’m so tired of being treated like a damn sales figure and of all of the disgustingly greedy decisions that companies keep making in my face that I’m pirating all single-player games and content form this point forward with very few and strict exceptions. I’m done.
“the irony is that modding has already proven to increase the sale sof many games, even older games.”
That’s probably a part of the problem as far as they’re concerned; you’re spending too much time on the free content available on the older game, rather than spending time on the newer game – especially since that means you’re not being enticed to buy the paid DLCs for the newer game, instead…….
The thing that saddens me the most, is it’s times like this that I reflect on the fact we were very close at one point not a century ago to a world without these sort of shenanigans.
but anywyas, it’s all good. I’ll just pirate everything Take#2 and rockstar from this point forward, just like with bethesda and zenimax from this point forward. If they want to save me money, well I’m grateful. Their big jew noses are sniffing in the wrong direction if they think think I’m stupid enough to have my own pockets drained. they’re about to be filled with pirated savings instead.
And the funniest part of it all is, instead of trying to convince the disillusioned to return by shifting philosophies, they’re just going to keep buying into the latest version of Denuvo, “because F*CK YOU.”
bethesda is becomming pretty scummy on the surface, and zenimax has been visibly for quite a while now and even they didn’t do this with skyblivion when morrowind eso was ocming out though i don’t doubt this move will be past them in the future with the direction bethesda is openly headed
F**K Y*U Take2
Lemme remind you GTA V came out on consoles 2 years before it did on PC, Take two made its billions way before the game was out on PC so please stop acting like a faggottt, cus I’m a PC gamer and you’re making us look bad. Mods only came out about 3 years after the games release and we don’t give a crap about them, and we will support take two whether you like it or not kiddo cus even take two thinks you PC peasants are useless to them thats why they let you pirate their games only after they’ve made their billions. That’s why I’m a hybrid gamer, now go cry in the corner kiddo ????????
dem commies tho