YouTube’s ‘Batman Arkham Videos’ has released a new video comparing the new HD remastered compilation of the very first two Batman: Arkham games (Batman: Arkham Asylum and Batman: Arkham City) for PS4 and Xbox One with their original PC versions. This is an amazing video and will give you an idea of the graphical differences between the UE3 and the UE4 versions of these two titles. Enjoy!
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PC version looks better and with SweetFX/ReShade it destroys this “Remaster”. And besides the “Remaster” immediately gets disqualified since its running at 30 fps. Forget 4k, at 30 fps a GTX 1080 will be able to run these games at 8k.
for the GTX 1080 to run this game at any fps or resolution you’d need a competent dev team working on the game… you won’t find one of those at WB any more.
WTF you talking both these games are already on PC and they run great and even Batman: Arkham Knight (PC) runs great after the patches.
clearly i’m talking about a remaster… tho carry on with your ignorance all you like.
No one cares because it looks like junk, that’s why we are laughing while we can play the originals on PC at 144hz, this is not a remaster, didn’t’ need a remaster, plus the PC version has their own extra graphics features like PhysX.
you don’t seem like you’re playing anything tbh… every time i read anything on this site you’re too busy spamming the comments.
Ever heard of Alt+Tab?
[insert pun about Consoles only having a Fullscreen mode]
I play lots of games, maybe you are just stupid or something. Been playing Batman AC, AA again, best on PC.
Are we supposed to play them? 😮
I thought we just buy and go to the internet to talk about it.
ok, ok, I wasn’t playing Guild Wars 2 and Doom last night for 6 hours. :p
Buy? Who buys stuff on here?
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The textures and skin shaders looks better to me in Remastered version. Also, the volumetric light and the slight motion blur effect makes the game feels more atmospheric and cinematic. Sure, the original version would be great in 8K. But, that doesn’t change the fact that you will buy the Remastered version if it gets a PC release, right? 😛
No way. There’s no way a pc gamer should buy such remaster. After the turd they dropped last year… F WB games.
No.
No I won’t because the PC version only needs the free SweetFX/ReShade mod to sharpen the textures and adjust the colors instead of shelling $40 on a remaster.
No.
I made a mistake just buying into Metro Redux because I thought if nothing else I’d be supporting an Independent Developer, but WB’s upteenth milking stratagem?
F*ck that.
I would get it, if they price it correctly, if it has all the games, if its on steam AND if i never had any of the games. Which i do, so gettin them once again seems pointless. The difference in gfx aint huge. Its no Black Mesa HL1 1999 VS Black Mesa 2015 case.
so would 2 gtx 980’s since they are faster then gtx 1080..lol
so its 30fps ok I m out
I seriously don’t understand this, at all. I saw it with Metro Redux as well;
What the f*ck is wrong with people, that they can’t just copy/paste the damn models, lighting, etc. & just add more detail to the already-existing Textures (or just decompress the originals, ala-Dragon’s Dogma PC)?
I mean, this isn’t even a case of “The Console Sucks.” No, because as limited as the PS4 is, there is no f*cking way it can’t run Arkham Asylum PC.
Ergo, this is just a case of “we were told to re-texture everything, & this is the result. Oh, also, since we ported all of this to Unreal 4, a bunch of things broke, so the Lighting is different now.”
I mean, just look at the Silent Hill HD Collection…… LOL.
Well the metro redux actually added a couple of gameplay features and and a plethora of performance improvements (at least 2033) This is not the case w/ arkham it seems.
True. Actually, I’d argue performance has gotten way worse with this Return to Arkham “remaster.”
This level of textures, with less effects (no reflections on Dr. Strange’s glasses for example), running at 30 FPS? LOL’d.
May as well add sweetfx to the original PC version and call it a resmaster, sell it to consoles for £40.
papadopoulos be trollin 😀
Seems to me they just removed the blue filter from the original and made a few scenes darker, that’s about it.
Don’t forget “Dr. Downgrade’s” hair.
im not trying to be biased but i prefer how the original looks
WB couldn’t be arsed to put work not even on consoles.
WTF is this company doing lol?
I say they made a good choice not bringing it to the pc, not because it would run poorly mind you, but because it would enrage people even more when they try to resell a product that looks virtually identical to the previous one. This type of remaster only makes sense on consoles.
i was expecting the remaster to be at least as good as the PC version without mods…but it is worse according to this video. it’s still gonna sell though. PS/Xbox fans are scr*wing themselves by supporting remasters specially these ones but w/e, many of them are just gonna ignore the advice on the internet anyway.
Few things I’ve noticed they changed in the Remaster:
*Massive increase in contrast
*Crushed blacks
*Increased saturation
*Removed the greentint
*Removed the distance depth of field
*Removed the bloom effect
*Added object based motion blur + camera motion blur.
*Added lens-flares
*Reworked several textures
*Removed lightrays and other special lighting effects.
*Speculars look reworked, but could be a side effect of the increased contrast and/or removed bloom.
Generally there are both improvements and failures in the new version. But at first glance the Remastered version looks more flat to me.
Don’t forget the framerate.
Thanks for the reminder bro, but I chosen to discard things like framerate, field of view, V-sync etc and solely focus on the differences from a pure graphical standpoint. Nonetheless a very important point! framerate limitations is a cancer that need to be killed with fire!
Got it.
They haven’t actually confirmed the frame rate either, which makes me think it’s gonna be 30 fps considering you’d expect them to put 60 fps as a big, bold feature if that were the case. Wouldn’t be the first time either, the Dishonored “Definitive [Peasant] Edition” ran at 30 fps on the PS4/XB1 despite an equivalent PC (750 Ti & i3) being able to hit well over 100 fps (go to 0:47 seconds):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n6BXSA45ls
Probably because these older games are single threaded and we know AMD CPUs are really bad in single-threading, Intel are good at both, that’s why a i3 destroys the console in these older games.
Dishonored is one of the least CPU intensive games out there though, at least for “AAA” games. And if you’re talking about Batman, those are running on UE4 for the remasters, which has much better multi-threading capability.
Your analysis is spot on and gives much better insight than the “article” and embedded video.
Muchas gracias.
Much obliged
2:05 yielded the most distinct difference between the two imo. But this is a comparison of PC vs the remastered, which is cool, but as a value prop for console owners a comparison of the 360/ps3 original to t he remaster will be more telling, will probably see that on digifound as it wouldn’t be appropriate for a pc focused site like this. Whats interesting is I would have expected the remaster versino to feature significant;y better looking texture work since UE4 can do physically based rendering and didn’t think UE3 could do that. Surprisingly from the eyeball check it looked like some textures where better in the remaster, whole others like Joker’s vest seemed more detailed in the original.
You can add PBR to any engine, Eve Online did it recently in their 13 year old MMO game.
Actually Batman arkham knight was made with unreal engine 3. And I’m sure it used pbr and all the new next gen gizmo techs
You’re right AK was UE 3, but a heavily tweaked version. I was more thinking when the original AA dropped they didn’y really have or use pbr. During the last console gen when it seemed every other game was made in UE3 the charecters and textures all started to take on a similar look. I guess for me it really started to change with Frostbite 3’s excellent use of pbr esp when it came to things like uniforms / canviss. That’s been probably the biggest change I’ve seen in “modern” games well that and boost in resolution, that seperates it from last gen stuff
Yes, pbr made me think next gen games finally got Ray tracing anyway after seeing arkham knight, the order and uncharted 4 arguably the top 3 best looking games this gen makes this remaster look like an indie game maybe it would have looked better if they used the same AKnight engine and not 4.
You should check our Ryse, it can be had for pretty cheap from places like G2A. I would put it up there on that list for best looking games this gen, esp the PC version. Gameplay wise its middle of the road hack and slash, not amazing but not bad enough to be put off. But graphics wise even after couple years its still stands out ahead of most other games. There are times when you swear your looking at a prerendered cutscene but it’s real time gameplay.
“Whats interesting is I would have expected the remaster versino to
feature significant;y better looking texture work since UE4 can do
physically based rendering and didn’t think UE3 could do that”
Yeah but that will mean they will have to rework most textures, which is a lot a work, since console peasants doesn’t care so much about graphics, they’d be smart to leave most of the textures as is. The least they could do is to run them through a sharpening filter, High-res “on-the-cheap” so to speak.
Don’t forget that it’s a engine port, not made from scratch, I think that’s why we don’t get such big improvements.
“The least they could do is to run them through a sharpening filter, High-res “on-the-cheap” so to speak.”
Decompress the originals, ala-Dragon’s Dogma. Easy, & far cheaper than having a bunch of Artists re-create them, too. Maybe throw in some extra detailing, if they’re a little too low-rez, but that’s about it, don’t f*ck with the art direction, ffs, but no, they don’t get that.
Character models are better in the original but overall lighting and effects are better in the remaster 🙂
ya i dont see how the remaster looks better…it just doesnt.
poor pc gamers getting a shaft. but on the bright side, original looks better
yet again…lol
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Arkham sweetfx edition!?
Strange remaster, not compare with Gears of War remaster. 50/50, something better, something worse. Even 30/70, in favour of the original.
Underwhelming, much prefer the original’s style. Can do without the over use of motion blur, screen effects and change in certain materials. Happy with the original PC versions.
LOL! Hugo Strange looks funny in the remastered version. What’s up with the eyebrows? It looked like it was glued on his face. If anyone thinks that the remastered version looks better overall then you need to get your eyes checked. This is going to fail hard!
Both versions have weaknesses and pluses… Its hard to say which version is better. I kind of prefer the original more, but not in every case. Just overall.
Hmmm.. Original looks better (except batman model)
Completed arkham asylum twice on pc and same goes for arkham city with physx and dx 10 enabled. Few improvements can be seen on the remastered. But i am waaaay passed these games nw. Wont be buying it even though i own both ps4 and xbox one. Not worth my time playing for the third time.
PC is still the superior version.
This game never needed a remaster anyway, in the future kids will see both and think the remaster was the original based on how ugly it looks
I’m sort of interested in whether the remasters with feature the physx that was present in the PC originals. IMO, now that (at least in those games) most pc gamers can run them with physx enabled at 1080p/60fps, that would prove to be a major plus for the originals. Plus, I could be wrong but I think the color correction in the remasters could be emulated to some degree with reshade.
I am assuming this means the remaster isn’t coming to the PC?