Written by Metal Messiah
If you have been following INTEL’s roadmap, then you must be aware that Intel recently introduced its LGA 1200 socket platform for Comet Lake-S, and support for Rocket Lake-S CPUs as well.
Now, according to one report posted by Lit-Tech, it looks like the LGA 1200 socket would be replaced soon next year with the arrival of Alder Lake-S CPUs.
This was previously mentioned back in January by Komachi_Ensaka. The exact dimensions were also outlined (45.0mm x 37.5mm), revealing that this new socket will be bigger than LGA1151/1200 sockets (37.5mm x 37.5mm).
Lit-Tech is a Taiwanese-based company responsible for Voltage Regulator Testing Tools/VRTT for the ASIAN market. The site even lists many “unreleased” architectures such as Ice Lake-S/H and Tiger Lake-H.
Intel Alder Lake-S is a going to be a successor to Comet Lake-S, and will feature a new socket LGA 1700. This socket will have support for at least three generations of Intel CPUs. Most importantly, Alder Lake-S is expected to feature a new “big core / small core” architecture, featuring Golden Cove and Gracemont cores.
Alder Lake-S will be the first Intel architecture to offer ARM’s big.LITTLE approach to desktop processors. These upcoming CPUs would be featuring up to 16 cores, in which 8 would be ‘Big’, and the rest would use the ‘Small’ architecture.
According to one report it is now speculated that these architectures are Golden Cove (Willow Cove successor) and Gracement (Tremont successor) respectively. Willow Cove is expected to appear in the upcoming Rocket Lake-S series of processors.
LGA 1700 socket is getting a support for 3 generations of Intel CPUs. This is something new for INTEL because the company has been known to support a short socket lifespan till now. These rumors indicate that Intel’s LGA1700 socket will compete with AMD’s AM5 socket in terms of platform longevity.
Thanks, @chiakokhua, Chiphell forums
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So Rocket Lake is already obsolete? Nice.
that’s the funny part actually.
Technology advances very quickly with PC hardware. Technically it’s obsolete pretty quickly after you buy it but the question is do you really need the latest and greatest every year or two? A few do. Most don’t. Even a current modestly priced CPU is fine for gaming for 4 years.
The only piece of hardware that I upgrade around every 2 years is the GPU and that’s only because I like to run at the highest settings.
Intel chips can last for years, why are people surprised when late gen chips require a new motherboard? Would people buy the new corvette if it had the same engine as the last one?
Because till now INTEL has been forcing customers to ditch and upgrade to a new socket platform.
it’s not about how LONG these chips can last. it more of “longevity” sort of effect as explained in this article.
I’m not understanding, most chips over clock to 4.0ghz with ease, what reason would you have to replace chips every two years? This isn’t like buying fruit at a grocery store, supplies are limited.
You shouldn’t have too people like upgrading to get more IPC+Frequency+Cores and buying a new board isn’t a necessary thing. In fact back in the day Intel used to actually keep the same board for years. Now they have the same old 14nm tech since 2015 but expect people to keep upgrading.
exactly, Intel has been stuck with the old aging 14nm since 2015, LOL
The majority of people do not upgrade frequently as an enthusist. Intel used the same board because they had no competition and improvements were minimal. NM size is almost irrelevant in a consumer market, most people are not software engineers or have 1000 hours of video to compress. Gaming on 14nm is almost equal in retrospect to game consoles which I would expect most people who buy a gaming PC in the first place.
On reddit and linustechtips every day and i can tell you that people upgrade yearly very often in fact techdeals did a survey and most of his audience even upgrades every 3 years and that is TECHDEALS.
Reason why no one upgraded before was over Intel and Amd not providing anything worth upgrading too. Also for people in the DIY market i wouldn’t assume what they do. If anything i know WAY more people who use their PC’s for programming or video encoding, editing and so on. In fact i really don’t even personally know that many people who primary game on their PC and nothing else, i know i don’t either. Still even rocking a GTX 1080 even.
Again “no competition” lol Intel had competition since 2016 yet they are still on 2015 tech and they expect people to keep upgrading well news flash no one is even buying Intel in the DIY market. It’s literary 80% Amd and 20% Intel and i actually think its worse then that last i checked from retailers data.
Interesting 80 percent but the majority of steam users is 78 percent Intel and that’s based off 90 million users so Id like to get a check of your sources
Only a niche of ppl upgrade frequently. The vast majority, do not.
Linustechtips is a site for those ppl, and ppl who comment there will be part of that mentality. But in reality they are significantly fewer compared to millions and millions of gamers or even pc users in general
not many peeps replace and upgrade hardware that often tho.
4ghz mean nothing when you compare different architectures.. An old cpu at 4ghz compared to a new architecture is much slower and less efficient. For example, an old cpu will stutter at games while a new one at the same Mhz will not .
Question why would anyone want 8 big cores with 8 tiny useless pieces of crap? Why not just grab a 4950X and have 16 great cores?
thanks for the info tho.
Cool. So finally Intel would NOT be forcing customers to ditch and upgrade to a new socket platform, for 3 min years ?
pleasant surprise from Intel it seems.
Re-read the article its less then 18 months of support lol
Why does anyone support Intel? This is such nonsense and we actually have people in the comments supporting this what a shame! X370 owner got a R7 1700-2700x-3700x and possibly a new 4700x later this year i’m not missing out on 1% of CPU performance by keeping my board. I like upgrading to test several aspects of newer CPU architectures. This would be much harder if i had to get a new board as well.
My perspective is just one of many different perspectives but I really don’t care if a new CPU can fit in an old mobo. I do a new build every 4 or 5 years. I get new CPU/ heat sink, mobo, RAM, SSD, PSU and case. Usually a new mobo offers a chance to get faster RAM and additional features on the chip set. The old build becomes my backup should I need it.
I never upgrade the CPU during the lifespan of a build I do. Only the GPU gets an upgrade.
I’m going on 3 years on my current build with a i7 7700k and it’s plenty for me for the next year or two.
Same here. My i7 4790 CPU is still rocking hard. I’m on 1080p/60hz so I don’t have any plans right now to upgrade my system.
Paired with the RX 480, this Intel 4’th Gen processor does the job pretty much fine. Also, I mostly play older PC titles instead of new ones which rely on more cores/threads, or a higher core clock value.
Ye, i kinda made a mistake when i upgraded from 4770k to 8086k. Sure i notice faster performance but was it worth it now after 1,5 years? Nope.
I rarely play latest AAA games. Mostly just FFXIV now and thats more GPU heavy game which is a surprise since its MMORPG
i dunno with my 3770k overclocked i was starting to experience massive stutterings in newer games,going to a 9700k not only gave me much higher average framerates and no more stuttering
3770k is much slower than the aforementioned cpus . You sure did get low performance in pretty much anything new. No reason for comparison (i did own a 3770k until a year ago and i was glad to get rid of that bottleneck)
not really if you overclock the i7 3770k above 4ghz(mine was at 4.2) and pair it with fast ddr3 memory in my case 2400mhz you could get close to an i7 4790k and outperform a 4770k at stock settings
Hey, its 100% confirmed that Alder Lake is indeed going to use ARM’s technology, and a brand new socket. Though, how this method will work for Desktops, still remains to be seen.
I have Legit proof regarding this leak (internal documents, Images, power point slides), but I’m not allowed to make it public. Means we cannot share it with others.
Off topic:
BTW, what are the PC specs of your RIG ? Just asking. I’m using an RX 480 GPU paired with an i7 4790 CPU (non-K), and I’m using a 1080p, 60Hz monitor screen. LOL.
will it be 10nm or another 14nm?
Some form of the 10nm process node, not 14nm.
News about the next gen even before the current one is released…”Desperation” much!