Watch Dogs feature 3

Watch_Dogs – Xbox One Review Build Versus E3 2012 Build Comparison

Watch_Dogs is a game we are really looking forward to. WCCFTECH has released its review for Ubisoft’s upcoming open-world title, alongside some new video footage from it. Thankfully, this footage is captured during a rainy night, which is perfect for comparing it with that amazing E3 2012 build that was showcased a while back. So let’s go and take a look at the differences between them.

Naturally, we should note that the E3 2012 build was running on the PC while this new footage is from the Xbox One version. Though there will be slight differences between the current-gen console versions and the PC version, we don’t expect to see major improvements. On the left you can find the Xbox One review code and on the right the E3 2012 build.

Let’s stat with the biggest disappointment which is no other than the flying debris during huge explosions. WCCFTECH thankfully captured an explosion at a fuel station and as we can see, the Xbox One version lacks all the particle effects that wow’ed us back in 2012. By now, it’s obvious that the E3 2012 version either took advantage of Nvidia’s PhysX or had ‘pre-rendered destruction’. Either way, the end result on Xbox One is underwhelming when compared to the E3 2012 build.

WD_XboxOne_explosionWD_E3_explosion

Not only that, but the fire effects are way simpler in this latest build for current-gen consoles. It’s pretty obvious that Ubisoft downgraded the fire effects as they are not as impressive as it was back in 2012 (notice the fewer fire samples and the underwhelming smoke effects). The fact that we’re comparing fuel stations in both scenes makes this comparison as good as it can get.

WD_XboxOne_fireWD_E3_fire

Reflections also took a slight hit. As we can see, there are no reflections on the street from the lamps. Although the reflection system seems on par – in general – with the one featured in the E3 2012 build, it’s pretty clear that the number of reflected lights has been severely reduced. For example, the highlighted lamps are reflected on some water pools but not on the wet pavement, something that was not the case in the E3 2012 build. This obviously has an impact on the overall image quality.

WD_XboxOne_reducedreflectionsWD no 2012 reflections

Anamorphic lens-flares have also been reduced to minimum. While the E3 2012 build version had lots of anamorphic lens-flares, the latest version seems to have reduced them to only a couple. This may please some people as those effects were a bit disturbing (perhaps JJ Abraams did ask to get back his anamorphic lens-flares after all).

WD_XboxOne_no-anamorphic-lensflaresWatchDogs anamorphic les flares on_E3 2012

We will not be judging the texture quality as there is no point doing something like that for compressed YouTube videos. For that, we’ll have to wait until the games gets out. Moreover, the rainy night sequence on the Xbox One version seems to be lacking the fog effects that were featured on the E3 2012 build (as well as raindrops from roofs), though this may be due to different weather ‘rain’ types.

All in all, it’s obvious that the game has been downgraded. Reflections are not as ‘strong’ as those in the E3 2012 build and the explosion effects in the latest version are underwhelming. Anamorphic lens-flares have been reduced and the fire effects have been simplified.

Enjoy and stay tuned for more!

11. Watch Dogs Ubisoft E3 2012 Press Conference

272 thoughts on “Watch_Dogs – Xbox One Review Build Versus E3 2012 Build Comparison”

  1. xbox cant even run 1080p , those details from E3 gameplay would melt it instantly. of course they had to downgrade it , shame that PC probably suffered because of that too..console comparisons with PC will be interesting to see.

      1. Aaahh dumb typical white fanboy fella, the X1 can even do 900p instead its gotta be knocked down another 30% to an odd ball res of 792p and just cuz the X1 can do 1080p on simpler games doesnt mean it can really do 1080p on the games that matter. Dont be mad bro, cuz your system sucks.

        1. so resolution matters now ? how about 900p ? lol, and how about 1080p/60fps ? when we say at least 1080p/60fps you people always say Gameplay>graphics,no body cares about res,nobody cares about fps, only gameplay matters. but when you see s***ty Xbox lower res every pixel counts ? and it became important ? get the hell out retard

        2. oh another dumb sonytard who has to defend ps4 and bash xbox on ever occasion, congrats the irony is grand.

          1. Dumb as bricks, delusional, constantly wrong, worthless, malicious, mentally ill microsoft xbox fanboy shill.

            Thank god forums like beyond3d and neogaf exist where facts and knowledge can come to light, rather than the mentally ill ravings of delusional fanboys (you).,

          2. copy and pasting like a boss because you got nothing better to do.

            Yeah thank god beyoned and neogaf exist so r3tards like you who call people dumb as bricks delusional and always wrong arent allowed there and you console clowns get pwned there 100% of the time.

            You are a butthurt kid who cant stomach anyone elses opinon so you spam them with your same nonsene and DELUSIONS like me somehow being a xbox fanboy and you cant even have a basic discussion without using your copy pasted WRONG and WORTHLESS nonsense.

            When it was the last time you played a game on your ps4? Oh i forgot you down own a ps4, you just say you do, when it was the last time you used you UBER SUPER POWERFULL pc to play games instead of spamming people and calling them crap? I forgot you dont have that one either, i asked you to provide proof that you own those things but ofcourse you dont so you talk nonsense.

            I wish i could give you a console or a pc so you can STFU and play and stop passing your time by trrolling everywhere.

        3. It’s not an odd ball resolution actually, it’s a true 16:9 resolution and TV’s can only display limited resolutions, unlike PC monitor that can display the actual native resolutions that 16:9 offers.

          PC monitor resolution used to be 1920×1200 until manufacturers standardised it for TV’s to 1920×1080(1080p).

    1. wolfenstein is native 1080, the crew is native 1080, murdered soul suspect is 1080, tomb raider was native 1080, halo will be native 1080, I could keep going…

      1. wait are you thinking im like “praising” ps4 or something? both consoles are garbage and are holding up PCs

          1. Exactly, these xbots arent to bright are they. But they are very defensive.

          2. Incoming xbox fanboys pretending to be “pc master race” attacking PS4.

          3. wats ur problem with glorious master race? we are superior in every possible way.

          4. Some of us are more superior than others. You seem like someone who needs a shower. Badly.

          5. how do you know? how does what you just said makes you any different. i just…i can’t even

          6. hi is a troll. read his older posts 😀 we killed him already twice, he has two accounts here, one is Xtreme Derp and another one is ps4lol

          7. That you are hating every person that lives in Earth with a console.
            By the way,you guys are so arrogant…
            So,as a PC gamer,I’m saying….GET A LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

          8. You’re the worst kind of gamer! You give us PC owners who aren’t too shallow to also game on consoles a bad name! Depriving yourself of some great console games because of some idiotic superiority complex is laughably pathetic!!

          9. oh here comes the sony fangirl, i remember you bragging about ps4 being a super computer & that you’re married to yoshida, hows 900p doing? i suppose you think sub hd is great now that ps4 is stuggling.

            oh and just so you know 900p vs 792p is about 29% difference in pixels LOL

          10. Shouldn’t they be talking about the amazing power of Cell processor? Oh wait, that was last gen.

          11. If sony fanboyism and damage control was made of uranium you got enough to power the whole planet.

          12. and yet you & your friends are here and sucking sony’s c**k. how butthurt are you ?

          13. extreme derp is stalking and obsessively replying to all posts that arent ps4 related so naturally he has spammed every pc gamer 100 times over.

          14. all he does is go around and call people mentally ill always wrong and delusional if they dont agree with his opinion on ps4.

          15. Make sense. You’re exactly what he’s talking about. You just proved him right, dumba$$. Gawd, you’re stupid.

          16. “Gawd, you’re stupid.”

            How so everything he said was true, then again if irony was made of strawberries we would all be drinking smoothies after what you said.

          17. sure because everyoen who isnt a ps4 c3m licker is a xbot, typical sony pony logic.

          18. A ha, you think i care about the PS4 like that, Try again, ret*rd. And dont worry it wont be much better on the PC either, thanks to the consoles, sucker!

          19. don’t care about you s**thead and what you think, go fight your console sh**y battles somewhere else clown

          20. Depends what you mean “much better” you morons go as far as comparing gta v on ps3 and x360 and you specificly never forget to bash xbone for having inferior resolution, id say from that pc version is miles ahead.

          21. Right, says the douche slinging mud. Typical hypocrit. And btw, you’re a nut ball, take your meds, whacko! Now b*tching and moaning you skirt!

          22. No ps4/extreme derp is.

            We pc gamers know that xb1 is weak and expensive we dont bash it 24/7 like sonytards.

          23. Yeah..Sony fanboys always do that.
            But when Xbox fanboys find bad news about Sony,they bash as revenge.(Both do that)
            So my opinions are: All kinds of fanboys and elitists are stuck in their bashing/fighting loop,While I play my PC,my Xbox,and while I drink my milkshake 😉
            So its their problem that they are stuck here in this site,not mine.
            And by the way,I see that you are stuck in this loop too,so get out of it.

          24. “But when Xbox fanboys find bad news about Sony,they bash as revenge.”

            I dont see why not, everywhere i go i see sony fanboys falling in line to take a crap on xbone and “xbots” EVERYDAY 24/7

            its pathetic.

            The only reason i dont buy a ps4 is that i dont want to be assosicated with those scumbags, i owned 3 sony consoles. I eve picked a avatar to bash those sony fanboys. For crying out loud, wtf happen to playing games? Nowdays its about EXPOSING the devs, PWNING the fanboys and laugh at them when something bad happens to their system.

            E3 is coming and like every year i am eagerly waiting to see games, while everyone else is like “sony will wipe the floor with ms” or “ms is gonna turn it around and pwn sony in e3”

            Who cares i wanna see games, i care about games not about this godamn “MY PLASTIC BOX BEATS YOUR PLASTING BOX CUZ N4G SAYS SO” pathetic war i got caught up into.

          25. Neogaf is a SONYED WEBSITE.
            So is N4G.
            Everyone is fighting,even those “superiors” (NOPE) that are called The PC “masta race”.I mean,those guys are thinking that if somebody owns a console,he is poor and they are EXTREMELY RICH.
            So one thing to all of those fanboys(Including elitists):BITCH PLEASE

          26. To be fair the master race is a joke, type knowyourmeme glorious pc master race, console fanboys used as an insult, we took it as a joke, until this day people think we are serious when call them “peaseants”

            aahahaah, really?

            So now its “mustard race” since the “master race” didnt work as well as expected. The meme changed from master race to mustard race to piss of pc gamers.

            Its funny because the new consoles are pretty weak, there is no argument about it it is a fact, the 750 ti is a 149$ card and runs bf4 better than ps4. Also the cpus on next gen consoles are tablet cpus, there is no argument about next gen consoles beeing weak especially with the low end xbone gpu.

            But it is really annoying when you see fanboys of both consoles comparing graphics and resolutions and when we pc gamers say “well if you care so much about graphics, get the pc version, it will be superior” then we become “elitists” and we are “master race” and we are hunted down like “heretics” with pitchforks.

            To be fair blackbuster critic adressed the whole “rich/poor thing pretty well.

            Like i said you dont need a super duper expensive pc to run games well the 750 is dirt cheap runs games just as well as next gen consoles, yet the first thing a console gamer will say if you bring up pc is “pc is too expensive”

            No its not, so as blackbuster critic says you call us “master race” you keep saying that we have more money than you to spend on hardware and you keep saying that pc gamer is complicated, essentially that we know more than you…then you get angry at us when we laugh at those missconceptions and call you “peaseants”

            Seriously pc gamers dont think that they are super duper amazing, but that the pc is superior than console. I mean you have the better graphics, you have the free mp, you got customizable controls, fps , backwards compability mods. Pc gamers are not gloating or anyhing, we just saying pc has all thos things, you should play games on pc too. If you are playing on a console, no one has a problem with that, apart from some phychopath pc fanboys, but seeing console ONLY games going around and spreading bullcrap bout pc being expenssive, or having no games and when you try to argue with em, eg say “if you care about graphics then get the pc version” then you are called a elitist and are hunted down and called “master race” so you joke around and say “silence peaseant”

            Seriously this whole “master race is a missconception, google it, its a joke, a meme, yet some gamers, either console games or pc gamers take it for real.

            No one telling you to not play on console or that you shouldnt enjoy it, they just tell you that since you compare one console to the other day and night, well the pc is propably better on those things, like say graphics and controls, but when that happens ,the console gamers call the pc gamers “master race” and “elitists”

            Apparently its cool to argue about graphics as long as the pc version isnt brought up, either because they downright hate pc or they are insecure and to loyal to their console to even consider playing on a pc, so they got to downplay it.

            Enjoy whatever console you want to play. If a game is on xbox and i want it, sure it will suck to play on low fps and framerate but the game will be there, no matter which version of a game you play, it is the same game. So why bother comparing one version to another?

            “because one is better”

            well pc is better than all, but when i say that everyone is like “ELITIST” GTFO, GO SIGN SOME PETITIONS, YOU DONT EVEN HAVE GTA V.

            Arghhh!!!

          27. No…..
            I was talking about other guys…Who really take that “master race” seriously..

          1. You do realize with PC being the lead platform that means its build to run on PC first then has features removed to run on consoles, right? That means the bs of consoles holding back PC is over now that they use x86.

          2. You do realise that’s not the point, it’s just much easier to port it to the consoles from the same architecture, consoles are still easier to optimise for end of story, they always will be because of the set hardware.

          3. You’re talking about something not even the average PC gamer can run. So if you want to claim something is holding PC back its the average PC gamer.

          4. Not really because PC settings scale to the hardware, that’s why devs include ultra and 4K resolutions more so now.

          5. they do, they cut some features even on PC version to hide console weakness. Crysis 2 ? couple month later they released a patch to add those removed features

          6. Don’t give the consoles too much credit, 2 year old mid-range PC hardware can match a PS4 and destroy an XB1.

          7. Yeah, they wanted it highly multi-threaded like the console CPU’s have to be because like the desktop FX CPUs, they’re weak in single-thread performance plus the console’s only have 6 cores for games.

          8. I think that developers getting better at multi-threading will be a GOOD thing long-term for PC gaming. Right now even a quad-core CPU has a lot of wasted power because games aren’t tapping all the cores.

          9. So you think the OS doesnt take any cores on the PC? Your telling me a fat bloated OS like Windows doesnt take a good amount of resources, plus even 6 cores isnt that common on PC, none the less 8. Not trying to say the consoles are powerful or impressive. But lets keep the comparsions accurate.

          10. 8 core cpus are fairly common for AMD. I myself have an 8 core i7 but that is pretty rare

          11. i7’s are not 8 cores, they’re 4 cores double fed to 8 threads. AMD have 6-8 cores but they’re two quad-cores put together.

          12. Yeah I messed up with the i7. lol Thanks for not being a jerk over a simple mistake.

            I have a QUAD i7 lol

          13. Does insulting a CCNP who made a simple mistake make you feel good about yourself?

          14. Reserved is different you moron, memory and CPU cores are not reserved in Windows. Windows doesn’t actually take that much because some of it is cached for fast access to speed up cold starting apps.

            Windows takes memory because it uses it for lots of things and work patterns, not just games and media.

          15. Considering how most games utilize 3 and the rest go even higher, no it doesnt take away any cores, r3tard.

        1. PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

          PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF. PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other customizations. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

          A high end PC beating a PS4 is not an excuse for Xbox being an overpriced and underpowered console compared to PS4. Maybe Xbox will be worth it for exclusives years from now when it costs $270 (about what the hardware is worth in performance), and you can get a bunch of exclusive games cheap. $500? No.

          Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

          Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, PC is best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort.

          “Screw those poor console dirtpeasants that can’t afford or don’t have time to build and maintain 4k gaming PCs.” Mustard race fanboy idiot.

          1. Both consoles are garbage, a mid range pc easilly beats ps4, so much for 400$ sonytard race

          2. Dumb as bricks, delusional, constantly wrong, worthless, malicious, mentally ill microsoft xbox fanboy shill.

            Thank god forums like beyond3d and neogaf exist where facts and knowledge can come to light, rather than the mentally ill ravings of delusional fanboys (you).

          3. copy and pasting like a boss because you got nothing better to do.

            Yeah
            thank god beyoned and neogaf exist so r3tards like you who call people
            dumb as bricks delusional and always wrong arent allowed there and you
            console clowns get pwned there 100% of the time.

            You
            are a butthurt kid who cant stomach anyone elses opinon so you spam them
            with your same nonsene and DELUSIONS like me somehow being a xbox
            fanboy and you cant even have a basic discussion without using your copy
            pasted WRONG and WORTHLESS nonsense.

            When it was the
            last time you played a game on your ps4? Oh i forgot you down own a ps4,
            you just say you do, when it was the last time you used you UBER SUPER
            POWERFULL pc to play games instead of spamming people and calling them
            crap? I forgot you dont have that one either, i asked you to provide
            proof that you own those things but ofcourse you dont so you talk
            nonsense.

            I wish i could give you a console or a pc so you can STFU and play and stop passing your time by trrolling everywhere..

      2. Typical dumb xbot fanboy, thinking he’s trying to put up the PS4, typical xbot comprehension skills.

    2. PC’s could have been the best without you butthurt guys.
      The community in PC is not better than consoles thanks to you.

        1. No.
          If you got 1440p or 4K,that is amazing…But it does not mean that you have to laugh on console guys because they have 900p or 1080p…

          1. It does because Sony, Microsoft and Ubisoft lied to them and then consoles users stick up for such companies. Sony made a big f*ck up saying on their site the game is 1080/60fps but 1600×900 at 30fps instead. Big f*cking typo or big downgrade.

          2. I know.
            Ubisoft is the actual reason for that downgrade.
            By the way,I wasn’t talking about this game only,I was talking about every other game on those consoles.
            Like BF4..

          3. “Ubisoft is the actual reason for that downgrade.”

            Had consoles not being weak there wouldnt be need for a downgrade.

          4. It was more like a mistake by whoever wrote the PSN market entry than anything deliberate. The store page has made mistakes like listing Trials Fusion on PS4 at 720p when it actually runs 1080p. Obvious mistakes like these are usually corrected without notice.

            But I didn’t see any microsoft fanboys screaming about SONY LIED ABOUT TRIALS FUSION 720P!!1

          5. Yeah if sony makes a mistake, its ok, if ms makes a mistake FULL STORM OF TROLLING.

            So much logic.

      1. The “console community” are that much better they come here hating on each other on a PC gaming site. LoL. They also don’t care about graphics but every article they’re defending their downgraded graphics.

        1. I love how they would analyze the tiniest details between the PS3/360, arguing which was better. Then when you showed the PC version suddenly it’s all “graphics don’t matter!” lol

          1. There is no difference.
            PS3 and the 360 are pre-made machines.
            You can’t replace hardware…
            In PC,you choose if you want 1080p/60 or 4K/30..
            But it’s their choice,and you and every other elitist likes HATING them because you got better graphics/quality.

          2. “But it’s their choice,and you and every other elitist likes HATING them because you got better graphics/quality.”

            So having a CHOICE our CHOICE to have 4k and you HATING us for it, is not the same?

            CLAP CLAP CLAP.

            Go back to consoleand when the only choice you got is who to pay in order to play mp.

          3. PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

            PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF. PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other customizations. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

            A high end PC beating a PS4 is not an excuse for Xbox being an overpriced and underpowered console compared to PS4. Maybe Xbox will be worth it for exclusives years from now when it costs $270 (about what the hardware is worth in performance), and you can get a bunch of exclusive games cheap. $500? No.

            Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

            Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, PC is best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort.

        2. And you are laughing and mocking every console gamer (They do that too) because you got 14400000ppppp LOLLZ

          1. The console gamers dont know sht about techonlogy so they are the laughcing stock of the pc community.

    3. Not just resolution makes the game though. I play on a computer with a EVGA superclocked 4GB GTX 760 and I love to play Star Wars Battlefront 2 and I get a consistant 80fps that drops to 79.9 or 79.8, GPU running at around 40 degrees celcius and running the game at 1080p native. The engine at the time was great but now engines are so much better that the textures blow it away, anti aliasing has gone to doing FXAA or TXAA with MSAA on the side, then you got the HBAO+ for Nvidia or HDAO for AMD graphics cards for the SSAO solutions, they got post fx and then shadow quality, ect. A lot depends on the engine the developer uses.

      We also don’t know how long ago that Ubisoft changed the PS4 or Xbox One version of the game to 900p or 720p. But say they changed it a while back and they had a better frame rate then what they thought they had they can make shadow quality from high to very high or add better MSAA, ect with whatever resolution it is. So even though the resolution is less other things become better.

      Even the games that say native 1080p doesn’t mean the texture quality is ultra, shadow is very high and MSAA X4. A dev could make a game 1080p native with low textures, low AA, low shadowing and make every setting low. In that case it would look better 720p or 900p with higher settings.

      Even look at Ryse : Son of Rome and Crytek cut the character polygon count in half yet the main character looked just about the same. Then it’s 900p and it’s still one of the better looking games right now. Did the resolution give that game bad reviews? No, they got the bad reviews because of how repetitive the gameplay is.

      I wouldn’t say a console can’t run 1080p because in reality they could if a dev really wanted it to. This is were this conversation would never end because it would go into texture quality and all the different settings we know about.

      1. It’s nothing to do with the devs “wanting to”, do you think the PC version is oh so optimised with driver and API overhead yet still performs better on 2 year old hardware?

        Excuses, excuses, PS4 and XBox One are much easier to program for than the PC, it’s just that people can’t acccept that the console hardware is weak and outdated.

        1. Did I ever say the PC version is super optimized? Nope. I just find it funny when people say oh it’s not strong enough to run 1080p but that is completely up to the developers whether they want to not run super low settings/no anti aliasing to achieve 1080p or not.

          If Ubisoft wanted to run Watch Dogs 1080p equivalent to super low settings they could get both consoles to do 100fps if they really wanted.
          I know the consoles are outdated. Just saying there is more then just resolution when it comes to games that determine how good they look.

          1. They don’t need to use super low settings, just unlock the frame-rate but they don’t want to because it looks crap on TV’s, even though console users can’t feel the frame-rate variations much on a high latency TV and controller.

            You suggested that the consoles lower their settings for a higher frame-rate even though a mid-range PC doesn’t need to do that.

          2. That depends on what the person wants though. I want a clear picture so I use MSAA X4 and turn down the shadows, physX and volumetric fog or post fx if worst comes to worst. Can’t speak for everyone but I do have to turn down those settings usually to get 60fps.

            Gonna upgrade from gtx 760 to 780ti when it drops to $350 or under. Gonna be a while though.

      2. No , man just give us on PC the best possible experience , il worry if my card can run it or not, also i can wait few months to upgrade if i must. And for people with average PC who can’t upgrade , there are options you can tweak. Dont give me same damn shit like console just with bumped resolutions , that’s bullshit… im just sick of crap console ports.

        1. Seeing how it supports 4k plus it had its own Nvidia trailer it is safe to say PC was the lead platform. They wouldn’t uprese it like this after making it for consoles. I know what you mean though. Far Cry 3 had major stuttering issues and the frame rates on Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag was pretty rough.

        2. Devs won’t target rare high end PCs, there’s no money in it.

          Most PCs are weaker than a PS4.

          1. “Devs won’t target rare high end PCs, there’s no money in it.’

            That is exactly why games have high requirments and they both upgrade the graphics from the console version due to not “targeting” the game for high end pcs.

            Got news for you pal, they target ps3 and x360 they even target the wiiu so your argument is wrong.

        1. does it look like this article is about PC gaming…? No ok good now crawl on back to your cave! -__- and FYI im not a ‘console peasant’ im a gamer not a spec whore….

          1. its here so we can laugh at the peasantry. no one really cares about potatoes around here.

          2. lool yet you’re here commenting..? its funny you PC elitist talk all this shit about games we ALL get to share anyways…? wheres you excluvies at that push the boundaries of your rig..?

          3. Arma 3, Total War series, practically all PC games have much higher settings and resolution than consoles, multi monitor resolutions, 1400p /4K gaming, super sampling options ect…

          4. so an FPS is your best bet to argument..? yeah i know nearly all PC games have higher res and wayy better performance.. but in terms of big budget AAA exclusives there aren’t any games that justify the price tage of a rig… so you’re happy you can play Watch Dogs in 4K well i have a PS4 that will allow me to play the SAME game as you but yeah your’s is prettier but we both share HE SAME experience.. where as you guys dont have the body of work that say Sony/Microsoft and Nintendo have so wohoo you get the best looking versions of games we all play but we get the games you will never see on your system… THATS my point… and btw in terms of pushing graphics to the max whats the point of bragging about being able to watch an RTS game in 4K ..? :S i can understand the steady performance thing but whats the point of bragging about benig able to play an RTS at 120 FPS at 4K.. i dont think ANY console gamer actually would be jealous by that tbh..?

          5. ARMA 3 is not like your ordinary FPS, in fact it can be play third person as well, the island is 1000 square KM, you can make your own missions and build your own places on the island and it’s more a simulator than and not your run of the mill arcade style FPS. Consoles have nothing like it.

            Anyway, you asked me to name one, don’t stick your nose up at it just because it suits you to win an argument. PC have plenty of intensive games. Also, better experience, you think 900p/30fps is a good experience on a HD TV at 100hz+? LOL

          6. No,it may not be good…
            But you are hating… BECAUSE YOU GOT 1440p/60fps.
            So,you need to GET A LIFE TOO,DERP.

          7. Extreme derp is a console fanboy actually go side with him if you want to hate everyone and call them stupid, congrats youtube is a better place than disquss, hope you console clowns are happy.

            Thats why we stay on pc so we dont have to talk to iditos like you.

          8. its 2014 and you still can do 1080p, well its not a matter of elitism, it is a matter of consoles being weak pieces of crap, ps3 and x360 were quite powerfull.

          9. no no im not turning my nose down at it at all.. i guess you’ve named your one and of course it is if the game itself is of high quality! last time i check The Last Of Us is a 720p game at 30fps.. so once again…. MORE than fine

          10. “but we get the games you will never see on your system.”
            i don’t think any PC gamer would actually jealous of that 😀 – and don’t forget it goes both ways but on PC nobody owns you and your machine + you have options, do you have one on consoles ? doubt that

          11. the over saturation of certain genres on PC tend to be the ones that dont do well on console anyways so once again im sure no one with consoles really cares, and im sure thats the case with PC gamers too but then you guys wanna watch Diablo 3 on 4k at 120FPS and tell me thats not a waste of money but ok… and what im confused.. nobody owns me on console :S

          12. i agree but:
            “nobody owns me on console”
            yes, MS or Sony owns your platform, they can do what ever they want with it and you can’t do anything about it, just like backward compatibility, you must pay $ a month to be able to run your last gen game on cloud, and not every game is supported. this is only one example

          13. oh then in that sens very true… 100% agree… but then isnt that the case with you mobile phone..? :S we know its certianly the case with iPhones.. so really its no skin of our backs all it stops is us playing pirated games so that’s more of a hypothetical problem than an actual practical one and as for Backward compatibility i HATE when people over exaggerate its necessity and usefulness.. i have never had the convo or heard the convo of someone saynig “i cant waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait to buy my PS4 so i can fiiiannnllyyy play my PS3 games on it!!” ¬__¬ so although yeah BC would be nice but not a necessity plus when it is on offer but for a higher price people complain and prefer a cheapers SKU so then whats the point when a year down the line they wont be playing any of their old gen games on it…?

          14. it’s just not a year or so, i’m playing shogun 2 totalwar in my pc right now, i have Rome 2, the newer version but it’s a crap totalwar game but i can and i have the option to install older titles in the series that i had fun with, or some day maybe i want to play an old game, i have an option on PC to install it again, but what choice do i have on PS4/X1 ? pay for PSnow monthly and buying the game again ? or plug my old PS3/X360 to play the games again ? this might work if i kept my old console but imagin 3 generation of consoles with all of those cables and space they take and trying to connect them to TV etc…

            it could be like this:
            i can’t wait to buy my PS4 so i can finally play next-gen games on it, in case they are not many games on it, i like to be able to play my old games that i paid for them before. not paying again one for service one for high speed connection and one for the game that i have on disk next to me. add lags and latency issues

          15. yeah thats true.. but tbh id assume most people will still have their PS3 while theyu have their PS4 for that case… i sincerely doubt theres been many people who’ve traded in their PS3 the same day they bought their PS4… but i 100000% get your point on where Backward Compatability comes in handy and when its important.. but in the overall grand scheme of things no one buys their next gen console to play previous gen games that LUXURY wares off after about a year..?

          16. it’s not all about luxury or graphics or new stuff. for example i want to play a 9 or 12 years old game (shenmue for example…), what should i do ? it’s nice game but it’s from 6th gen,5th gen or 4th gen
            1.i must plug my old console again if i still have it.
            2.i must by it again, buying a game that i already have. if it’s exist on stores for my new gen platform.

          17. yeah thats what i mean i completely understand and appreciate the allure of PC.. i dont bash PC i know the PC’s strengths however being able to play old gen games for me personally and actually a few of my friends isn’t as important plus when i wanted to replay shenmue i actually went on a hunt for a dreamcast and it was only like £25 pounds but shenmue cost me another £20 i think but it was worth it considering how desperate i was haha

          18. i hope you dont think im trolling PC gaming… i actually do think ts awesome but i cant take ‘PC Elitist’ who refuse to take into consideration peoples points against why we dont care…?

          19. what… ill reply when you start making sense because your points are literally not even making sense….. ¬__¬

          20. because you seem to need educating on the other sides argument lool…

          21. Here is some EDUCATING this is a pc site, it doesnt post anything console relatd unless its compared to the pc.

          22. How about stop being such a tool, “PC gamers” lol , “bad name” lol , like its sooo big deal some random guy will read what i said and go all like

            “wow dude PC gamers are such douches, i’m so disappointed..” ,

            oh wow.. just wow son first world “master race” problems.

          23. Screw those poor console dirtpeasants that can’t afford 4k gaming PCs.

            Am I doing it right?

          24. How harder? He has 2 fake acounts with ton of ps4 propaganda and copy and pasting the same nosense to everyone and EVERY single comment of their that dont agree with him becuase he things they are WRONG!!!

          25. No you’re not being perverted enough, you need to tell kids to kill themselves and perform sexual acts! That’s how they do it!

          26. HAHAHA Look who pops up!! Trolling again I see, you just can’t help yourself can you? You are what you are I guess!! I thought you didn’t care about your name but I see you’ve gone back to it huh? Insulting me as well? Boy you really must be angry, why don’t you report me? Oh no tried that and FAILED MISERABLY!! Stay angry troll!! I can rise above it so it’s wasted on me!!

          27. Am trolling? you have a name that his acount name is the same as mine and you pust inane bs and you say i am the one who is trolling.

            So you basicly take comfort in the fact that disquss and those sites allow trolls like you to exist and then you say i am the one who is trolling?

            Man if irony was made of uranium we could power the whole planet.

            Funny thing i left you alone but its you who keeps throwing jabs at me, seems like some sony pony is a little butthurt.

            But hey apparently its me who is “angry”

            If delusions gave medals you would get the gold one.

          28. I don’t troll, I’ve barely even replied to you so if I was trying to annoy you I wouldn’t be doing a very good job(even though you’re REALLY angry for some reason, remember all the threats of reporting me and hunting me down? hahaha) You’re PARANOID TOO it seems!! Anyone needs banning it’s you(didn’t dualshockers ban you for trolling? haha) Anyone is ‘butthurt it’s you! If you weren’t you’d just ignore me like I’ve been doing with you rather than insulting me! Save your Sony anger for the sony fanboys as it’s wasted on me! haha! Go troll the trolls troll!

          29. “if I was trying to annoy you”

            You did in the first message.

            “even though you’re REALLY angry for some reason,’

            WAS, i dont give a damn right now, your trolling is as weak as a baby’s fart.

            ” You’re PARANOID TOO it seems”

            Sure your name is most definetly not designed to poke fun at mine.

            ” Anyone needs banning it’s you”

            Sure not extreme derp going around spamming everyone and calling them mentally ill or you for making an acount to impersonate me like the last 2 times which acounts i got them banned.

            “didn’t dualshockers ban you for trolling?”

            Nope, but dualshockers is a site that pots ps4 articles to get hits, no one checks their reviews or their podcasts or their other news, like say pc related stuff, so i saw no reason to hang on a site that floods its traffic with ps4 rumors and news and attracts all the sony fanboys who have a free fire zone at shtting on xbone 24/7 trolling like crazy and the mods not giving a damn. So i stopped posting on that site. A month or two ago i saw a pc related article stating that the pc market is bigger than consoles. There were 2 comments.

            One from a random guy saying “lol really? and guissepe replying “yes really”

            So i dont see the reason to even browse that site anymore.

            “Anyone is ‘butthurt it’s you’

            How so, its you who came here with massive butthurt and taking jabs at me, whats wrong? You missed me? Or you just want to flame me to get my attention?

            The rest of the post is so facepam worthy filed with hypocricy.

            ” just ignore me like I’ve been doing”

            Yes your comment above is totally ignoring me and you are doing it right now, you most defently not trying to take jabs at me

            “Save your Sony anger for the sony fanboys”

            i am looking at a butthurt sony fanboy that made an acount just to pis me off

            ” Go troll the trolls troll!”

            I am trolling the trolls TROLL damn the irony here is so high that if it was made of uranium we could power the whole planet by now.

          30. I haven’t made 2 other accounts, this is the only account I’ve ever made and it isn’t to troll anyone! If I’d have been banned twice before like you claim why aren’t I banned a 3rd time then Mr Paranoia? My comment history speaks for itself just like yours does! You’re the anti Sony troll not me!! Get a life man, What has sony done to you or your family that’s so bad that you hate on them so much on every article? A gamer should game on as many platforms as he can afford to, don’t hate just because you’re poor or someone from sony slept with your boyfriend or whatever! Move on! gaming’s meant to be fun ffs! Try having some instead of being full of anger and scorn! I’m done replying to you anyway troll! JOG ON!!

          31. To be banned for a thrid time you must display more clues of impersonation, but you usee your username just to bash me not to impersonate me.

            I am gonna be fcking clear here. If you say you are not trolling then STOP talking jobs at me, i left you alone despite the obvious username flaming trick, yet you keep finding your self here and go to extreme derp and say “hey isnt dakan a idiot?”

            So please get over yourself kid YOU ARE A TROLL and everyone knows it, if not then stop flaming me.

            “m done replying to you anyway troll!”

            Right because you are not gonna come here and call me various insults without replying to me, its not like this is what you have been doing.

            “My comment history speaks for itself just like yours does! You’re the anti Sony troll not me!”

            Yes it does, its filled with taking jobs at me and licking sony’s c3m of the floor.

            3 users have changed their avatar to mine, do you think they did it because they decided to be anti sony for no reason or because they cant stomach extreme derp anymore? You sony fanboys are a cancer in gaming and the reason i will NEVERY buy a sony console again.

          32. this entire site is about pc gaming, reminds me when star citizen developer said “ps4 and xbo are great because they will make things easier for pc gaming” Yet all the console fanboys starting a cosnole war in the comments when it had NOTHING to do with the article.

        1. so this article isn’t about the CONSOLE comparison or are you just illiterate/confused :S?

          1. hey call me illiterate some more douchbag, taht will SOOOOO gonna reinforce your point.

            Everything posted here is posted with relation to pc.

            I still remember how star citizen developer said that new consoles will make things easy for pc gamers and you consoletards started and irrelevant console war in the comments. You dont NEED an excuse why should we? ON A PC FCKING SITE?

            So yeah you GTFO this is a pc site.

          2. *Sighhhh* was i disrespectful..? i smply asked a question your’e the one shouting and calling me a douchebag i simply asked if you found dfficulty in reading and writing..? lol you STILLLLLLLLL dont get it do you!!? THIS ARTICLE (EVEN IF ITS ON A PC SITE) IS A CONSOLE BASED ARTICLEEE!! NOTHING TO DO WITH PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jesus child why are you soo confused about this? what dont you understand!!!!?

          3. You are the one who cals me stuff to piss me off, this is a pc site everything here is directly compared to pc.

    4. Nah, the game virtually never releases with the same detail as E3 videos now days, they’re too scared of releasing crappy alpha footage like they used to, now they release uber perfect bug free alpha footage that looks finished.

      I actually didn’t believe Crytek would release their Crysis 3 alpha quality but they did and Crysis 3 is technically brilliant.

    5. yeah right, like consoles would be holding the pc back even though they are two seperate things, and yet consoles can do it with a fraction of the hardware strength. get a life, nerd

    1. Fake according to them because it’s not the 9 they expected? It’s sad how people don’t know symbolism when they see it. We aren’t “hackers” as Ubisoft says literally, they meant it as a marketing thing because Watch Dogs is about hacking

  2. Wait for the real reviews to come out to pass judgement. This is no indication of the quality of the game and comparing it to GTA V is not fair or appropriate.

        1. But being downgraded imply looking worse than previous footage ,when ,in fact ,the Xbox One version was never showed.
          Im still hoping that the PC version will look just as good as 2012.

          1. I’ve just posted two screenshots of E3 gas station and that gas station fire, BIG difference, E3 version is superior.

          2. I’ll put money on it that we don’t get that E3 2012 gas station explosion effect on any platform in the final release on any settings.

          3. The explosion maybe not ,but the anamorphic lens flares and the dinamic fog probably will be there.

          4. Yeah I’m not a fan of motion blur but object motion blur gives the objects a better sense of speed or like being hit by a powerful blast.

          5. yeah, i bet E3 2012 explosion wont happen on any platform. that was some pre recorded and pre rendered build of the game i guess to just show that to people how good it could be but it won’t

          6. It wasn’t pre-recorded nor pre-rendered goddamnit ,it was real time ,it ran on a SINGLE 680 and a 2600k and it looked gorgeous.
            If now it doesn’t look as good the only ones to blame are $ony and Ubi$oft.

          7. they said it was real time, but sorry i find that hard to believe. i know what you are saying dude and i kind of agree with it but they always do that on E3 and other expos

          8. Everyone knew that the x1 version will look like shit ,even m$ fanboys.
            Besides ,$onytards Fucktards really thought that the p$4 was a high end pc and the partnership between ubi and $ony makes it worse.

          9. PC and PS4 are different markets with different pros and cons. PS4 has price/performance and simplicity, PCs have a higher potential performance, but generally more expensive and requires time and knowledge to buy, build, and maintain one.

            PS4 is comparable to a mid range PC at 1.84TF. PS4 has some interesting architecture benefits over traditional split CPU/GPU split memory pool PCs, and other customizations. For $400 you get a lot of price/performance, more than a $400 PC would get you. PS4 is better than most PCs. PS4 will have lots of good exclusives, both console only and PS4 only.

            A high end PC beating a PS4 is not an excuse for Xbox being an overpriced and underpowered console compared to PS4. Maybe Xbox will be worth it for exclusives years from now when it costs $270 (about what the hardware is worth in performance), and you can get a bunch of exclusive games cheap. $500? No.

            Xbox/PC fanboys seem to be on a war on people too poor or unwilling/unable to spend time and money buying, building, and maintaining a PC. Mustard race claiming they can afford multi-thousand dollar PCs but too poor to buy a $200-400 console.

            Both PS4 and Xbox will have good exclusive games, PC is best for multiplatform games if you have the time, money, and effort.

            “Screw those poor console dirtpeasants that can’t afford or don’t have time to build and maintain 4k gaming PCs.” Mustard race fanboy idiot.

          10. yeah copy and paste because you got nothing better to do. Even though everything you posted here is wrong

          11. why not sony? Eh?

            Let me show you something r3tard.

            THe sony exlusive dlc is ALSO on pc, which means that sony paid ubisoft so ms wont get that dlc.

            PWND!!

            Now quit sucking sony c3m off the floor.

    1. People are upset that it got downgraded, get over it. And the gameplay didnt get any better for it.

      1. You summed it up perfectly. I hate how ppl say, yeah it got downgraded, deal with it. Nothing got improved because of it. Only thig that we know of is the graphics got worse. Didn’t the alien game from gearbox get slammed for the switch an bait??? So how come its not the same with watchdog??

  3. Thank you John for writing. I personally am glad you understood what I was trying to do. This was not a video review…just a gameplay clip I was attempting. I’m glad you understood it was meant to be a comparison clip. I also have screens from the e3 2012 intro mission …if you want to see that I will put it up soon. It looks bad…surprisingly bad. You’d think PC wasn’t that much of a leap…but it is.

    1. How did you get a copy of the game? And how were you able to play it without authenticating with their servers?

  4. That WCCFTECH review was a joke its was so nonprofessional that even Ubisoft Watch Dogs reacted on tweeter, review was so bad even Aidan wanted to kill him self… multiple times !

    1. It was to show how bad the game looks on consoles, its downgraded hard so it can run on potato , ubisoft wanted to sell as much as they can.

  5. I’m curious what console players were expected. The latest PC trailer was recorded on i7-3930K and GTX Titan, and it’s probably almost the same configuration from E3 2012. Do I need to say that this is far superior than X1 and PS4? Or I’ll instantky become a hater because of it?

    Let’s just wait for the PC version. Hope for the best, expect the worse.

  6. Are you sure? There are typically “review blackouts” because they don’t want us to be able to read the reviews before preordering (which is sketchy as heck, right?). If some people broke that blackout, of course they’d say those weren’t “valid” reviews.

  7. If you want to make a fair comparison you should compare 2012 trailer with a super computer and 2013/2014 trailers with the PS4.

    1. I just read this on WIKI :

      Watch Dogs received more than 83 awards and nominations for its display at the Electronic Entertainment Expo 2012 and won two Game Critics Awards for Special Commendation for Graphics and Special Commendation for Innovation.

      ” Special Commendation for Graphics ” lol

      Those awards should be taken away from them. They are somehow , no longer valid.

      1. Yes because they used a Titan to do all the uber effects like the mega gas station explosion rather than the sh*tty one we’re probably going to get.

        1. That’s something that most AAA developers like to do.
          How to do that:
          1.Show extreme graphics in E3 and cause a huge overhype
          2.Decrease graphics amount because you found out that you could not make those graphics better because you used A 10000$ GPU in E3,so THATS THE END

          1. he is trolling, he is a sony fanboy that knows nothing about PCs, only here to troll

      2. Go check out bioshock infinite E3 videos both of them, those things are not in the game, yet 10/10 best game ever.

        The game media has turned into a complete joke.

  8. Are you really using a very compressed youtube video of the BETA as valid evidence for a comparison. ?_?

    1. Compression isn’t an issue when you’re comparing such blatant downgrade of effects like the gas station on fire, In the E3 video the gas station was covered in a great cloud of fire and smoke effects as you would expect but that video which is not pre-alpha like E3 video looks like something from 2007.

  9. thank you john
    umm, eeeh, please be good on PC, i pre ordered this 😀 why i did that ?
    at least i liked the cockpit view, way better than Grid Autosport’s s**ty cockpit. shame

  10. Wow, 116 comments already, I’m sure the Sony and Microsoft clan will make it up to 400 by the end of the day, and give John some revenue to buy his new testing PC because console users do care but pixels, resolutions and frame-rates. *sarcasm*

    1. There won’t be a lot of comments because a lot of the PC fanboys here are closet xbox fanboys and won’t attack xbox footage.

      Any footage of the PS4 version will bring out the usual rabid animals.

        1. says xtreme derp who has 2 fake acounts copy and pasting the same bullcrap all over the place and spamming me.

          Might be surpsiing to you kid but some of us got lives.

        2. spam him, i have in both his acounts. The dumb idiot copy and pastes the same irrelevant post and posts it everywhere. He is trully a pathetic kid with a serious syndrome of not being able to take it when people dont agree with him so he tracks down people and reply to all their posts with his ps4 copy and pasted FACT propaganda.

      1. Why beat a dead horse? Oh i know its becasue some sony fanboys are so butthurt that they got to make a fake ps4 acount to damage control their failbox of their sinking company.

  11. Thing is, pc version need a geforce TITAN to run comfortable at max settings. You think it ll be less impressive than E3 2k12 ? i seriously dont. consoles. lol like seriously, just play the orange box on Xbox 360 its not even remotely close to what you can experience on pc. pointless comparisons are pointless

    1. Titan is old news, 770 and AMD’s high end GPUs can do it and they’re much cheaper. It’s only £200 for an R280.

    2. “Thing is, pc version need a geforce TITAN to run comfortable at max settings”

      Didnt the well known ubisoft guy who has been giving out all the information said that a gtx670 can max out the game? Whcih means 1080p TXAA and HBAO+ not available on consoles.

  12. my god you are fckied in the head.

    All i am saying is that you nutfcks dont need an excuse you will start a console war on a PC ARTICLE on a PC SITE, so please GTFO you are no better than those r3tards nor you should take any jabs at what WE talk on our PC site.

    1. i haven’t commented on anything else PC related on this site have i..? just on the ones relating to consoles.. if you dont know how to ague thats coools… enjoy your life but dont try generalise to make yourself feel better about losing the argument loool

      1. No thus you dont know that this is a pc site.

        So pick your “argument” and ride it back to the consoletard land.

        1. and thats that… ive never debated with sucha brain dead fool before.. i CANT WAIT to catch you on a Console article (which ive already done) and we’ll see lol

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