Each and every month, Steam conducts a survey to collect data about what kinds of computer hardware and software its customers are using. According to the November 2017 hardware survey, NVIDIA and Intel are dominating the PC market and are crushing AMD’s GPUs and CPUs, respectively.
According to the graph, AMD’s GPUs market share has been decreased from 23.5% (that was in November 2016) to 8.8%. On the other hand, NVIDIA has increased its GPU share. Back in November 2016, NVIDIA dominated the PC GPU market with a 58.6% share. And now, 84.9% of the survey-takers are using NVIDIA’s GPUs. Basically, we’re looking at a more than 25% increase in a year.
Intel is also dominating the CPU market as it has managed to increase its CPU market share by 13% in a year. Back in November 2016, 78.5% of the survey takers were using an Intel CPU and right now, 91.7% are sticking with the blue team. On the other hand, AMD saw a 13% decrease. In November 2016, 21.5% of the survey-takers were using an AMD CPU and right now only 8.3% are using a CPU from the red team.
Quad-core CPUs also saw a big boost. Back in November 2016, 47.8% of the survey-takers were using a quad-core and right now, 72.8% are using a quad-core.
Windows 7 64 bit is now the most popular operating system (Windows 10 was the most popular OS in the past few months) and the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti is the most popular GPU, followed by the GTX 960, the GTX 1060 and GTX 1050 Ti.
Furthermore, Steam saw a big increase of Chinese players as the Chinese language saw an 8.23% increase. This increase of Chinese gamers may explain the dominance of Windows 7 over Windows 10, as well as the bigger gap (between AMD and its competitors) we witness in both the GPU and CPU slides.
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I’m curious to see where AMD will stand in a year from now with their Ryzen and Ryzen+ CPUs.
They’ll stop producing gaming-related CPUs altogether if their next generation can’t rival Intel in actual game performance. They had over 7 years to learn their lesson. If they refuse to learn it’s on them. After 7 years of underpowered over-cored CPUs they doubled down and went the more cores route a second time with Ryzen, trying to trick people into believing in “future proof” potential by boasting about a bunch of CGI / video benchmarks. Evidently, it did not work, again, but I doubt they care. I think they decided gaming CPUs aren’t a market worth competing in years ago. That’s the only interpretation where they are rational agents. I’m guessing cheap office hardware is the most profitable segment for them and with Ryzen they are trying to expend into more expensive office hardware. Gaming is not on the (real, internal) roadmap.
MP games are a segment that seems great for AMD too.
Multiplayer games? AMD? The opposite is true, due to AMD’s poor single core performance anyone who is serious about multiplayer games buys Intel.
Interesting! Too sad, though!
I’m not sure they can’t “compete”, especially since game devs are actually getting better at using multiple cores more efficiently.
Please stop falling for this scam. People said this years and years ago and nothing has changed. Crysis 3 is still one of the most multi-thread friendly games. Most games are not and will not take advantage of more than 2 cores. Large amounts of game logic can’t be parallelized. There will always be a main thread that requires brute force and this main thread is only going to get more bloated as game engines grow more and more tumors than they already have. Additional threads will be used to do additional work, not to grant additional performance.
They’re already doing well in gamer performance, especially considering it’s brand new architecture. Intel has been on the same architecture since Sandy Bridge and it shows in games. Devs have had years to optimize for Intel and very little for AMD. This trend should reverse soon considering all the work AMD has been doing to correct this, ie collaboration with Bethesda.
The problem is only Bethesda seems to be interested in partnership. I mean it is true, they should focus on workstations and console hardware. I am still glad for all the competition tho. I bought Coffee for a ridiculous price because of that, so thanks AMD I guess.
“The problem is only Bethesda seems to be interested in partnership.” It’s an official partnership, but AMD works with all developers. Just look at the work that was done with Rise of the Tomb Raider after AMD worked with the developer to optimize for Ryzen.
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ROTTR is a DX 12 game and AMD knows they have a huge potential in this area. DX11 games remain a different story tho.
Howeve the quality of the game didn’t match the quality of the graphics, so it doesn’t really matter.
I am more interested in async compute development.
>Intel has been on the same architecture since Sandy Bridge and it shows in games.
It shows? Intel leads in game performance at any price level. The perceived “future proofness” of Ryzen is all speculation, a similar kind of speculation as the one that lead to the budget-build hype of buying a FX 6300 years ago. That never paid off for anyone but this will? It has six cores which will help in the future, they said. Nope. Now we all acknowledge that cores are irrelevant as long as you have over 2 so they need a new argument. So devs will optimize their PC games (don’t hold your breath, lmao) to take advantage of “new architecture”, at least if they are published by Bethesda? That’s a long shot. When is this Bethesda project going to lead to results? In a year or two? Will the average game benefit from Ryzen’s architecture by the time Ryzen is obsolete (3+ years or sooner if Intel stop rehashing)? I think not. And will older games ever justify Ryzen’s price compared to an Intel CPU? Certainly not, older games will always perform as they do now.
For anything before 2019 Ryzen is a confirmed flop and we’re now discussing whether games at some later point will even attempt to make up for that.
You missed my point entirely, whether that is intentional or not we will see. My point about Intel was that developers have had several years to optimize for Intel architecture. Moreover it favors Intel as many engines prefer high IPC over multithreading even to this day.
Everyone knew that the FX series was crap. Enough with the Red Herring and stay on point as no one mentioned it.
If you knew anything about the Bethesda project you would have asked any of the questions or made any of those statements. AMD is collaborating to help with their engine, not a game. My GUESS is that they may be working on a brand new engine. Time will tell.
Nevertheless, many developers have been trying to optimize for AMD’s Ryzen chips. Most noticeably Rise of the Tomb Raider and Total War: WARHAMMER. This trend will continue as AMD’s implentatiuon of SMT is more efficient than Intel currently.
Ryzen will be on the same socket until 2020. New chipsets will come out but the socket will remain the same. Ryzen 2 will be built off of Ryzen. I’m honestly not sure if you’re intellectually capable of having this conversation.
I will just wait for the next RED release then abandon games…at least single player games!
I mostly dont play single player games anymore…even though I own an 769 log steam library!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cyberpunk has multiplayer.
So do I!
It is confirmed that it does but i highly doubt it would be problematic. it is probably CDPR just keeping up with the rest like how they went from PC only to PC first, then went open world and tried to be friendlier toward consoles and now this.
I don’t know what any of this means.
There’s no way the 1070 outsold the 750 Ti already.
“Steam’s userbase has dropped”
Citation needed.
“Steam’s userbase has dropped, doesn’t mean people don’t use steam, but they certainly don’t use it as much as they used to. Battle Net, Origin (EA), Uplay (ubisoft), Epic, etc….”
What? Even if Steam’s userbase had dropped, what do other services (btw, of the ones you mentioned, half of them don’t even offer non-exclusive titles), factor into that?
Take a step back from the keyboard, your delusions are starting to get the better of you.
LOL 750ti is still the most popular?
So if I am reading this right June 2016 to November 2017 Windows 10 users were around 92% of Steam users. Then later in November 2017 a bunch of Chinese gamers jump on maybe to maybe to play PUBG on bootleg copies of windows 7 to make it the dominate OS?
Anyway, AMD needs to get their stuff together I don’t like these numbers at all as a consumer I want to see competition, because if we don’t have it we will be playing higher prices from both Intel and Nvidia. My last processor was an AMD Phenom X4 965 black edition that ran hot and didn’t age well at all. I am running an overpriced I7 6800k now which I purchased before ryzen hit.
If AMD can remain competitive I am always willing to support the competition, especially the underdog in my system builds, but they have been dragging their feet for years and I don’t see myself switching from Nvidia anytime soon unfortunately for their inefficient offerings.. >_>
“So if I am reading this right June 2016 to November 2017 Windows 10 users were around 92% of Steam users. Then later in November 2017 a bunch of Chinese gamers jump on maybe to maybe to play PUBG on bootleg copies of windows 7 to make it the dominate OS?”
I don’t think you read it right… Win 10 users were never around 92% of Steam users
Doesn’t it say Windows 10 with DX 12 is 59.81% and 32.65% in the first chart for systems with DX 10, 11 and 12?
It says 32.65% have a DX12 compatible GPU but no Win 10
Ah yeah I didn’t notice the gpu, still it is a pretty dramatic change from about 60% to about 70% windows 7 users later in the month of November.
China is more than 30% of all internet users. This is main reason why “worldwide results” of new systems are always 2x worse than in rich countries like UK or US
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Yeesh yeah XP is a complete turd that is a huge security risk point taken
That can’t be right. While i am happy my gpu vendor is on top, i can’t bring myself to think that it is good for consumers.
AMD failing to compete is a real problem, investing in tech that no one will use for 5 years or more, then wonder why they’re losing share. At least Intel learned from RAMbus and P4 days, AMD hasn’t, HBM, Async Compute, 8 core CPU are the future but AMD seem to think it’s 5 years ago or now in regard to HBM and have been consistently wrong. NVIDIA and Intel have concentrated on tech for the now, while AMD have been dreaming too much and have failed.
You have no argument, please try one. Ryzen seems to be AMD’s only hope at this point. Yes I do know what I’m talking about, it seems you don’t, remember bulldozer with 8 cores, total failure, AMD fixed it with Ryzen and yes Intel hasn’t innovated because they havn’t needed to since AMD failed so badly with Bulldozer.
Only one fanboy here and that’s you who can’t admit AMD failed with Vega and Bulldozer, it looks like RX failed to gain any proper share as well. Are you part of the AMD fanboys that are saying Threadripper will dominate the server market and kill off Intel? Keep dreaming,Intel usually respond well to competition, core2 sure did hurt AMD, they never made a core 2 killer, Ryzen is hardly a i7 killer either, espeically in games.
ultimate heresy!
1)TR4 is HEDT platform such as intel LGA2066. for server market there is SP3 (Epyc).
2) FX8150/8350 dominates i7 2600 in modern titles. all you need is to bump a bit the CPU_NB & MEM clocks
I see no valid argument there as what you said is irrelevant.
then enjoy another recently discovered microcode vulnerability https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1cb867e2cf0e942df5df4815cc99c7b2902d7f35945598fc62b1e128ab807dca.jpg
“AMD won the CES 2018 innovation award with threadripper.”
Okay, and? What does that prove, exactly, other than they’re innovating? Innovation without adoption = waste of R&D.
“8 Core CPU are the future???? HAHAHAHAHAAH What!? Do you even know what you are talking about?”
Do you? This has been discussed for years, now.
” I am stopping here I hate wasting my time on ignorance”
You should have stopped at 0, as you’ve already failed to avoid ridiculing yourself.
This dummy is just defending his purchase, that was after all every last cent of his paper-route and grandma and B-day money. Not to mention cognitive dissonance runs strong in silly Millennials, it just cant be helped. The future is doomed as abject morons like this will be doling out or meds etc etc. Scary sh*t.
That is only small part of the problem. Intel can really waste billions, as they did with their atoms vs ARM, and it did not hurt them much. AMD simply can’t. In their financial situation (AMD financial situation is actually better now than years ago and better than much think it is) it is plain miracle they made such a good CPU and GPU and if customers would not want them, then soon they will get intel and nvidia for much higher price they can hardly even imagine atm.
You remove competition and prices go sky-high.
AMD removed themselves by making bad decisions, blame Intel all you want for AMD’s failures, all AMD needed to do was make a competitor to the i5/i7, they couldn’t even do that, it took them 5 years to work out that single thread performance is still where it’s at. AMD have been so f*cking ignorant in the last 5 years, we’ll go our way and let the software devs follow, we know they will attitude, we’ll make an graphics API that they will want, DX12 isn’t coming, a constant line of fail with AMD until Ryzen and yet we’ve yet to see even if that takes any significated market share.
It won’t happen, why, not because I’m a Intel fanboy but because Intel have proven in the past to beat AMD, they never made a compettive CPU after Athlon, Intel demolished it with core series, then core 2 and i5/i7, there is no reason to believe they won’t to with to Ryzen unless the management nowdays screw up.
Well put.
You are making a lot of conclusions based on statistics that are being affected by a new market of a country of billions.
AMD has been taking good decisions and the prove of that is that DSOG has informed in the past year how AMD sales in both GPU and CPU has increased. But you cant make to people going to change CPUs in a flicker, and less of that a Chinese market when only Intel had access for years before the reforms of the government that allow to import more hardware including consoles. Even if AMD does pretty good the next year, it will not take the dominance of intel, that could take years if not decades.
And all of your talk about how AMD is this or that becomes nothing if you just simply didnt take into account the chinese market.
As I said, had microsoft took bad decisions because suddenly W7 appears as the King of the OSs. Did Linux devs went so bad on taking decisions that actually the market share went to 3-4% to 0.8% on Steam? Nope, what just happened is CHINA…
I am not blaming anyone I am just stating the fact. On the other hand I would just love to see you compete against 15x bigger opponent, but even in that case I surely would not blame anyone else but you for loosing.
Problem is AMD is far from loosing, they actually gaining market-share despite steam HW survey data, which is questionable on its own.
That on its own is plain miracle. AMD is 12-15x smaller company than intel, it is also smaller than Nvidia, and both of those companies have far higher R&D budget. And AMD is still able to compete. This is definitely something that is not likely to happening in other markets and instead of blaming I would pay respect for that.
But np with blaming, some people are happy to blame as I am sure you do all the time. Though I think respect is far more applicable here.
And BTW if we are talking about proving, AMD proved historically they are able to make great products with very limited resources, intel on the hand proved they can waste billions and bring no competition what so ever (ARM).
Same excuses from AMD defenders(and same defenders), smaller companies and smaller R&D is not an excuse, you just can’t admit that AMD products fail and make excuses for it, according to you, AMD can do no wrong, that’s the very definintion of a fanboy and you always defend them. Prove to me you’re not a fanboy because all you have said is nothing but praise for AMD, I have critized both for valid reasons.
You seem to have reading comprehension problems, I didn’t say AMD can’t compete nor did I say AMD don’t make good products, you can’t admit they made errors. Intel made errors with the P4, AMD smashed Intel with Athlon and AMD64. Intel then smashed AMD with the Core series ,where were your excuses then, where are your excuses you put up when AMD beat Intel?
AMD cannot remove themselves, only customers can! That is absolute basic economy. Customer is who finally decide. Questioning this is just plain stupidity. And historically there were often far worse products that destroyed competition and became standards. There are actually lot of variables in the process, lot of them are actually emotional variables, many which no company can affect at all. And I am sorry but customer is the only one who decide that at the end, that is how our system works.
But sooner or later we will have monopoly in this particular market as in every market for that matter. And I think it will be significantly worse situation than we have nowadays.
…”Only thing failing is your inability to see beyond your fanboy perspective…” kinda calling the kettle black here arent you?…juuuust a little. Oh I get it youre just one of those ‘troll’ posters.
Who is failing here is you. Do you think a 20% of decrease means people throw away their AMD cards and then they went running to buy a new Nvidia cards in the last year.? For real?
All that writing to make yourself too look smarter and you didnt see that the chinese market is just wrecking every statistic data outthere including the OS use? Are people uninstalling their windows 10 for windows 7? Is it microsoft failing to compete too?
The only fanboi around here is you my friend… Trying to defend a company who has made inferior products for the last 10 years is what fanbois do best.
Simplified Chinese (64.35%) more popular than English worldwide. This is a joke right. Just shows these Steam surveys mean nothing.
No it isn’t, because it is the world’s most spoken language….
Last I checked mandarin was the most spoken language they have a population of over a billion people and weeabos are for Japanese fans get your your lingo straight.
It is still only 14% of the world’s population while this survey has it at 64.35%. Something is not adding up.
PUBG hackers? Miners?
You’re ignorance is amazing.
It was a joke actually, but hey, if it really got you that triggered….. Too bad, so sad.
China have nearly 1.4 billion people – more than 30% of all internet users. It is also country where nearly all gamers use PC because consoles was forbidden by government in last 30 years (until 2016).
China is main market of PC gaming.
“China is main market of PC gaming.”
Lol? Okay, nutty.
by gaming performance you mean singlethreaded ancient cr@p?
It’s faster is current games as well.
good goi! don’t forget to keep slurping that thing in your mouth
Everything AMD I ever bought has broke yet I still have a Pentium III that can still boot up any day of the week.
This is likely a consumer error.
I rly wanna get a 1600x but the 8600k preforms mutch better . I hope ryzen 2 is gona be better .
There is a lot of ignorance within the PC community.
Put Vega + Freesync up against Pascal + Gsync and you get the same experience, costing less with AMD.
And again AMD wins on the price / performance charts with the CPUs.
Sure meanwhile Nvidia has no competition for the Gpu, cuz Amd always sleep.
Not exactly.
AMD, just stay on the console market, because after AMD began to support the console market has become a Total Fail for the PC hardware market !!!
The new AMD Hardware is only serving to lower the price of Nvidia and Intel products, this is the only reason I have to thank AMD, because this way I can continue to buy Nvidia video cards and cheaper Intel Processors , because AMD Processors and VGAs have worse performance in most PC games and also in console emulators.
And in my country the price difference is very small between the products of Nvidia (VGA) and Intel (CPU) versus AMD (VGA + CPU)!!!
exactly! that’s why I will be buying an i5-8400 soon. thanks amd ROFL!!
All the AMD GPU were bought by minners. I had Update from GTX 750ti to 1060 Aorus OC card cuz 580 were out of stock -_-
Kinda nice for the chinese to bump Win 7 numbers, the last thing we need is DX12 exclusive games.
amd is so pathetic
AMD might go bankrupt soon or sell out or something, they lost their share in gaming market, internet will soon be full of cheap used cards (again) by miners and they can’t really focus on mining either since it has too many investment risks, give it a year or two and owning an AMD card will feel like playing on PC back in 2006-7
Chinese market is hugemongoose.
WeGame over there is the juggernaut of PC gaming with even more users than Steam, which only has a relatively small market penetration. When you look at the Steam numbers remember this, it doesn’t represent all the planet’s PC gamers or sheer numbers…..
Probably more than 30%.
Good, now Nvidia please release your 1180/2080 gpu, I wanna buy 2 of them and throw away my 2 980ti cards. Thanks.
Well now because AMD cant seem to manage to “tie their own f*cking shoe” we must wait even longer and pay even more for Nvidia. Oh well, thats they way its going to be then so be it.
according to amazon, from 100 best selling graphic cards AMD has risen from 2% to 20% for the 3 last months. AMD has 40% of cpu market according the same amazon. intel said in 3q earnings release that cpu sellings have not changed last year at all.
AMD at the same time has 70% jump in cpu sellings and 200% in gpu. and that is only begining. they do not count the mobile cpu and gpu market and cooperation with intel in gpu-cpu future market.
according to amazon, from 100 best selling graphic cards AMD has risen from 2% to 20% for the 3 last months. —->> most of them buy it for mining, not for gaming on pc… ^^
God-damn-it AMD, you’re forcing us into servitude to the mighty Nvidia and their unsavoury business model. Ive lost all hope.
LOL, please try to build you argument before posting such a nonsense.
aren’t games incapable of using Ryzen’s extra cores/threads?
The perfect title for those who like a war of hardware, AMD vs Intel, Samsung vs Pionner, Gigabyte vs Asrock, etc, etc.
Then some guys here came with their “AMD took bad decisions, AMD Bulldozer, AMD this or that” and suddenly people thinks AMD is “loosing billions” of dollars because suddenly in the last year 20% of the market share was lost. Pretty sure this survey means nothing to AMD actual sales.
But actually you can say that Microsoft, Apple and Linux “are taking bad descisions too”, how much of the “market share” did W10, OSX and Linux lost?, pretty sure no matter how “bad” is the spyware on W10, nobody is uninstalling W10. The gaps between both surveys is because a market that wasnt being taken into account just appear in the new survey? China. And China is a lot of W7 pirated copies with Intel CPUs and cheap nvidia cards to play LOL.
Its easy to control a market and “Crush” the competency when for years that country only allowed to import a small gap of hardware manufacturers, that could change in the incoming years, even consoles were banned not so far ago.
Funny, do you really think millions of Steam users threw their AMD CPU and GPU cards and uninstalled a DX12 for a DX11-only operative system in the last year? Ok.
I think John just went a little click and bait with the word “Crushing”.
No surprise for me. Intel and AMD are always ahead of AMD whether in CPU or CPU.
I was thinking who the duck cares, but now i get it, you are that type that always look at your neighbor garden.