A rumour surfaced yesterday, suggesting that Borderlands 3 could be releasing exclusively on the Epic Games Store. As you may have guessed, a lot of people demanding answers from Gearbox’s CEO Randy Pitchford who has previously made some positive comments about the Epic Games Store.
In a series of tweets, Pitchford did not confirm nor deny the fact that Borderlands 3 will be released exclusively on the Epic Games Store. Instead, he stated that the studio responsible for the game’s distribution is 2K Games, and that gamers should demand answers from them.
2K/Take Two has exclusive publishing rights for Borderlands 3 and makes all decisions regarding price-points, territories, distribution and platform partnerships. Please direct all inquiries regarding any of those topics to 2K. We are *just* the talent. 1/3
— Randy Pitchford (@DuvalMagic) April 1, 2019
Now while 2K Games is the one that will determine the digital platforms for which Borderlands 3 will come out, Pitchford claimed that he is fine with games releasing exclusively on specific platforms (provided they are exclusives for a short period of time like six months). Whether this is a hint about Borderlands 3’s exclusivity remains to be seen.
As a customer, I’m happy to shop in different stores – already do! I’ve bought games from Xbox, Playstation, Switch, Steam, Origin, GOG, Humble, Uplay, Epic and other stores. To me, exclusives are fine when they come w/ advantages and when they are short – say, six months 🙂 2/3
— Randy Pitchford (@DuvalMagic) April 1, 2019
Last but not least, Pitchford stated that he has a very keen interest in cross-platform play and that Epic has been support cross-platform play for a long time. This could also be a hint about Borderlands 3 supporting cross-platform play between PC and consoles (though this has not been officially confirmed yet).
For what it’s worth, 2K’s decisions aside, myself and the team at Gearbox have a very keen interest in cross-platform play. We believe multi-platform support is a pre-requisite and Epic’s leadership with cross platform support is helpful to our interests there. 3/3
— Randy Pitchford (@DuvalMagic) April 1, 2019
2K Games and Gearbox will reveal more details about Borderlands 3 on April 3rd, so stay tuned for more!
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Smells epic to me.
Not epic.
This game use Epic Unreal Engine – Epic will earn money from any store:
– Steam Store: 65% for developers, 30% for Valve, 5% for Epic
– Epic Store: 88% for developers, 12% for Epic
Please if you are going to shill for Epic Games (Store) at least have the decency to give accurate information. This game was going to sell gangbusters on Steam so that ratio would have become:
Steam Store: 75% for developers/publishers, 20% for Valve, 5% for Epic Games.
Not to mention the Steam sales for Borderlands 2 is 15 million+. So that is 0.75 x $60 x 15 million = $675,000,000 in potential sales for Borderlands 3 on Steam alone.
Funny thing is it will probably make more money for Epic Games on Steam than it will on the Epic Games Store (if we generously assume 10% of Steam users will buy it on Epic Games Store):
Epic Games Store = 0.12 x $60 x 1.5 Million = $10,800,000
Steam = 0.05 x $60 x 15 million = $45,000,000
Hear, hear.
His disingenuous comment still succeeded in duping at least two people. Ignorance is bliss.
He is right though. And I bought BL2 for 6 bucks a month ago, all DLC included, I can guarantee you those 15 mil buyers from Steam are for a large part late buyers just like me.
As you know I’ll boycott Epic just like the rest of you but i think this game might just sell perfectly fine even if it is exclusive. And after one year, when it launches on Steam, it will breathe life into the playerbase again. This is exactly what I’d do if I were Gearbox / 2K.
I’ll just torrent it to see if it’s worth my money and then buy the full thing with all DLC included on Steam.
“He is right though”
He was only partially correct. FasterThanFTL since red pilled him.
“I’ll just torrent it to see if it’s worth my money and then buy the full thing with all DLC included on Steam.”
While that approach has some merit it still works to the disadvantage of the consumer because it will will send out the message to the games’ publishers that folk are okay with it. You’ll therefore be encouraging those devs to continue signing over future games as EGS timed-exclusives.
Put another way, you’ll be cucking yourself by buying such games on Steam.
100% true but i want to play this game online with friends or randoms. I fight the battles I can… I’ll buy it on Steam when the price is right.
That’s fair enough. Given the Borderlands franchise track record for offering obscene amounts of paid DLC then those buying Borderlands 3 on EGS will,
– be paying top dollar for the game
– be paying top dollar for the myriad paid DLC
– have to endure all the bugs and optimisation issues at launch
– be contributing to making PC more like console exclusivity BS
– be encouraging more publishers to sign up to EGS
– be playing on an inferior online gaming network
– be giving money to Tencent
Buying the game to play on Steam will,
– offer the opportunity to buy the game at a better price
– likely offer DLC bundles so to save even more money
– avoid suffering the bugs and other issues at launch
– grant access to a vastly superior online gaming network
– help keep anti-consumer console-like practices off PC
– stop Tencent taking your money
– help stop the Chinese from assuming control of PC gaming
So, yes, absolutely pirate the game if it’s an EGS timed-exclusive and then subsequently buy it on Steam when the value proposition is far greater and where there won’t be any ethical issues.
There’s nothing stopping BL3 from being a best seller or game of the year, or whatever you wan to label it because PC players had another hissy fit over it being possibly stuck to one launcher. Borderlands III, much like other games that have done thos, are mainstream. Mainstreambgames, bring mainstream fans, who have mainstreamn ideals of “why does it matter if it’s on Epic?” Or things such as that will ignore or shut out the “exclusivity” point everybody who isn’t an average gamer will make.
You, everybody else, and vn myself? Yeah well be waiting patiently, by how any of ius are there really? 100k if we want to be very liberalbeith the count? Realistically? Maybe 45k?
I believe it will sell great because of consoles. The Epic Store won’t do it any favors. Overall the game will be a success and that’s how they will report it as, however good or bad the Epic Store did. Guessing of course.
I read below that the total amount of people that downloaded Slime Rancher & Subnautica was 4,5 million. Assuming that’s the total user base of Epic, anything could happen. We don’t know yet what kind of spending the Fortnite kids can do or if the regional pricing will be fixed in the future. I pay more for the same games on Epic than I would on Steam. This is still a huge factor for many people. On top of that Epic hasn’t had a single sales period yet.
Those 2 likes to his comment were received before I posted my comment.
Facts.
I think you’re overestimating how many people actually care what store the game is on.
Sure, the easily triggered internet comment section folk will rage out, but generally people really don’t care. Things are selling very well on Epic, possibly better than Steam as Epic is doing a LOT of advertising for these games. Steam does very, very little for them.
These devs/publishers keeping moving over for a reason, and it is NOT because their games are selling worse.
The reason is the money they’re getting to publish on their store with an exclusivity that lasts probably a year.
You’re absolutely right that most people don’t care.
You’re absolutely wrong to assume games sell better there. They simply can’t due to how young the storefront is.
If your game is on the front page on steams top sellers your game is selling very well due to the advertisement it is getting.
These devs are moving over to fight the steams 30% cut in a long run not because it is financially best thing to do now.
You have some good logic, and good points.
But, it’s worth remembering that most of a games sales are within the first couple of weeks. Sure, you may get high numbers of lifetimes sales, but that is at a much lower percentage (prices drop so fast on most games and they’re usually bought on sale even then).
If publishers are going this route, it is most likely (I don’t have numbers admittedly) due to large up front profit. I’m sure some of that is a big Epic check, but either way the money is surely there.
Just look at how well Metro did on the Epic store, when “everyone” boycotted it.
Epic advertises everywhere. Steam only advertises on their own page. I think this has a huge impact.
Sure, it isn’t great for gamers, but it is how the industry works. Publishers just want money. Gamers just want games. I feel bad for the devs in the middle honestly.
Actually the whole “Metro outsold previous game” is very disingenuous when you blurped out like that in one statement. Let me explain.
Metro Exodus was a much bigger game that would have attracted a much wider audience regardless of which platform is was going to be on. So the fact that it outsold a previous game that was at the time a much lesser known franchise as well as a linear shooter isn’t exactly a surprise. We also don’t know the exact numbers. Which I though was a very interesting omission because if games do extremely well publishers usually give you a number, not a statement indicating a number. I hope you understand what I am trying to say.
But as I’ve said, most people don’t care about the storefront so they just went and got in on Epic. I would love to see what the difference in numbers would have been if it launched on steam. You can tell how well the game is selling by just looking at how many reviews the game has, so I am hoping a review system will be placed on Epic soon so we can see that. There is no doubt that Epic is doing alright. Even with all the noise from gamers like us.
Yeah that’s a good point. We don’t have numbers and the market has certainly changed. Their brand and visibility has certainly changed as they’ve grown too. We also don’t know what the console sales did in comparison, which would shed some light on it. These days we don’t really get solid numbers which is a bit disappointing, but they rare have incentive to share them unless they’re very good. It’s all about marketing in the end.
“but they rare have incentive to share them unless they’re very good. It’s all about marketing in the end.”
Exactly! Which would indicate that they weren’t all that good or at least not as expected. Which they probably expected.
Interestingly, Obsidian Entertainment devs have said that they didn’t know anything about their game being an Epic exclusive until it was announced, and the lead dev stated on twitter that “this is how you kill the best hype for the game” and I think he might be right.
The hype surrounding their next game was so huge, with Fallout sucking this much chode, and now, new video of game play was released the hype is nowhere to be found.
The landscape is very interesting that’s for sure. Gamers are fickle beasts 😀
All true.
One thing I don’t believe 100% though, the devs somewhere had to know about the Epic Store thing. I mean, you have to create the installer and such to work with the store and DRM (I’m assuming Epic has something running for that).
Unless Epic does all that before they publish it. I’m not 100% sure honestly. But, it would seem the game would have to have some implementation to support the store, controllers, features, etc.
Any devs have insight on that?
Not to mention Metro Exodus was revealed by Microsoft in their E3 lineup. A LOT of people got exposed to it including some who might not have been Metro fans before. That’s a lot of marketing right off the bat. Even if they didn’t buy it on Xbox, they still may have watched that press conference.
Yeah you’re right. I was one of them 😀 But I knew and played the previews games. I see your point though.
The only people Epic Games is fooling with their lies of success are console fanboys, dummies and paid off gaming media.
Nope. The hate for the Epic Games Store is overwhelming. Subnautica and Slime Rancher — each individually managed to reach over 4.5 million free downloads. Out of those 4.5 million how many of those want to actually buy something from the Epic Games Store. My guess is 10-15% at best.
4.5 million free downloads is 4.5 million possibly customers. That’s a large number.
Even if they’re not buying now, they are getting used to the store and may very well buy something in the future. Getting people “in” the store is most of the battle, and this is doing just that.
If Epic turns up the heat with sales, they will likely get even more users.
I am one of those 4.5 million does it look like I going to be migrating to the Epic Games Store. Even if I do buy something in the future it will be a few high profile games that are going to be permanent exclusives. All timed exclusives I am happy to wait out to buy on Steam.
Nothing wrong with that. I am in the same boat. I’m still primarily a Steam guy. Just bought Sekiro and couldn’t be happier.
But, I’m not going to miss out on great games because it is on one site or another (like yourself).
I’m also not going to steal things because my feelings are hurt (like some).
It’s O.K. to vote with the wallet (definitely do), but stealing doesn’t send a message anyone responds to. It just makes us look worse.
“I’m also not going to steal things because my feelings are hurt”
Nice straw man.
I spent more than $5000 on pc games in my life as a gamer. I have boxes of physical copies bought before the digital trend began, but I will act accordingly towards companies that use dirty tactics to hurt the freedom of choice of their customers and limit their options.
You mean, like valve? Remember back when Steam first started and you would buy a PC game only to open it up and see a freaking Steam code and no disk? Steam was forcing people to use their store, just like Epic. That was way worse.
It’s really no different. Steam has a dirty, anti-consumer past also, but people want to shove their history aside and worship them for some reason.
I’m not for exclusives, but if they lead to real competition in the long run, it is exactly what we need. It sucks, but it is true. We can’t have company rule all of PC gaming. It’s only a matter of time before it turns sour.
I hated Steam when I bought half life 2 after release only to be stuck for hours with downloading a patch, true. Even today, when possible I buy from greenmangaming and gog rather than steam.The difference between Steam and Epic are:
– there was no digital market back then. Steam were pioneers with no models to follow. And after, they improved their product. Epic released a bad product in a mature market, with incentives for developers and limits for the gaming community, to substitute for that bad product.
– steam are not controlled by commies, simple as that.
You’ll tell me to give epic a chance, see what they will become. When they will reverse the decision to take the best opportunity from me to buy games that are not made by epic, I will reconsider my opinion. For the moment, it seems like we are stuck with the worst and only opportunity, and that won’t do.
Sure, Steam has certainly improved their product. But, you don’t wonder why they stopped?
Why is it so easy for Epic to come in and take games? Why isn’t Steam fighting back?
Epic Games isn’t bad, it just isn’t finished. If Steam wants to put them in their place, all they have to do is cut their own proffits, but they’re not going to. Instead, they’d rather allow the market to be fragmented because they know they can sit back, develop no games or software, and keep letting their money machine make money, because they have loyal fans.
Steam COULD fight for these games, but they’re not doing it. They just want the money, and they want it easy. They don’t care about the customer.
Until Epic puts a dent in their wallet, they’ll not react and nothing will get better for users or developers.
It’s freeloaders. The type of lazy casuals who would install spyware and make a new games account just to get free games they could have bought for dirt cheap, aren’t the type of people who buy games.
I logged in to grab Slime Rancher when I already have it on Steam and Xbox in the first place. Because why not have multiple game keys? Doesn’t mean I Would ever buy anything on EGS. I won’t.
So, you’re saying you’re a casual freeloader?
If free things are free why not take them? Especially if you already own them.
Also no, I own more games than you’ve ever heard of, so that’s not what I’m saying.
Nothing at all actually. I’ll take every free game I can get, personally.
I was just using your own logic against you up above, mostly for giggles.
I feel like most people buy games, but most people don’t spend much. Some do, sure, but there are lots of people who a free game here or there makes a big difference. I’m glad these deals exist for them. It’s something that’s very PC specific, where a little word of mouth goes a long way.
“I think you’re overestimating how many people actually care what store the game is on”
You’re overestimating, as always, how many people actually care for what you have to say.
Do you have LITERALLY (I know the dumbasses love when I use that word) any evidence that games are “selling very well” on Epic store?
The only alleged proof we’ve been given is that Metro Exodus sold something like “2.5x better on EGS than Last Light”, a game which everyone claims sold like 15,000 copies on Steam. Which by the way is false, it sold something more like 2 – 5 million over time if even the minimum number on SteamSpy can still be believed even a little.
Which I’m pretty sure is BS, there’s no way Exodus sold millions of copies on EGS alone – but I’d believe it sold about 60,000. Other than that, what’s your source? The amount of people downloading free games?
Aside from sites reporting on it, I don’t have any evidence no. But that’s not my job.
It’s worth considering it would be illegal for the company to state sales information that is false, as investors have a stake here (falsely inflating stock, etc). So, I’m inclined to believe them. No one wants to be sued into non-existence and fined just to puff their own chest.
He’s just doing what 99% of the corporate shilling sheep do when they comment: regurgitate marketing scam talking points that have been meticulously designed by professionals (MBAs) trying to tug heart strings due to what they’ve found to be most effective through mass collected data, while not telling the public anything even remotely close to the whole truth – which is then repeated across every platform on the internet by paid off streamers, youtubers, sheep herding community managers and fake gaming journalist “interviews” to come off as real info, the whole picture, and not at all sponsored – which is then posted as if the talking points are their own.
What’s missing is the fine print that is never talked about by the headlines or paid off “regular gamers.” Just like you posted here.
I sure as hades won’t.
People are going to go where the game they want to play is they aren’t as locked to one distributer as you think they are and they haven’t been for a long time.
“People are going to go where the game they want to play”
So that’ll be CPY and CODEX for Epic Games Store games.
If you are using the Epic engine you only pay 10%.
Despite the fact that I don’t use Epic and rather see it on Steam, I must admit, if I was in charge it’s a no brainier to put it on Epic store.
I can see the incentive
From those responses I bet money it is going to be on the Epic Store as an exclusive for 6 months.
Honestly I could care less what launcher it is on, as long as it has a offline mode and it is not on something like Google Stadia then personally I am good to go.
Rip borderlands
I’m betting it is the best selling one yet.
Surely no thanks to epic store.
Well if its on Epic I dont think so.
Just say it randy, we all know it’s going to happen
At this point I hope it happens just so that DSOgaming community goes into meltdown, and then I’ll watch as the game does great anyway (most likely).
More drama more fun.
You’re lame as hell.
I get a kick out of it. They think because they are rage fitting the rest of the world cares (they don’t).
All that anger for nothing. But, it is a good show.
Side note, I’m still yet to buy anything form Epic but I have a nice game collection of free stuff built up.
“Side note, I’m…”
Side note, nobody cares for your opinion.
I suspect the game wont do that great no matter what store it is on. I just don’t feel any hype around it at all. The last game didn’t sell that well either, it sure didn’t do the numbers of the second one. This one looks just like more of the same. Couple that with the fact that there are so many looter shooters out there now and that people are starting to be a little fatigued, and I suspect this wont be a critical success.
I’m very sure this will do really, really well. People are hyped for this.
I don’t see any hype at all. The hardcore fans yes but looking through comments in plenty of videos about it and it’s just like… I don’t know. I hope I’m wrong, don’t have anything against them.
Another day, another weak sauce trolling attempt from you in an Epic Games Store thread. gg
Another day, and yet another weak sauce trolling attempt from you as well, @Dsog wannabe, . gg
SMH…..Just because you don’t agree with someone else’s opinion or thoughts, doesn’t make him/her a troll.
SMH.
Another day, and also yet another weak sauce reply trolling attempt from you too, kite wanna be. gg. Get it?
whos next?
Go and F*** your C****
I.. NEVER… such bad manners from this young generation!
Awww, you caved so soon.. disappointing
confirmed EGS exclusive now.
Oh no.
It’s going to be nice seeing DSOgaming comments section salty about this game on every relevant article xD
Old news, do keep up.
I don’t know how many times people need to explain this but it’s not about sales numbers it’s not about having another launcher.
It’s about a company practicing anti-consumer tactics. Every consumer regardless should all be against this crap. It’s the same with microtransactions and loot boxes. Everyone needs to speak up or else these big companies will find even more creative ways to rip you off.
If Tim Sweeney actually wanted an open PC platform like he said when windows store pulled this sh*t. He would allow the games to release on every store simultaneously. AND then you guys can gloat about sales numbers..
See the thing is, MS didn’t “pull this sh.”
Microsoft windows store “exclusives” are games they developed and/or published. They own Age of Empires, Killer Instinct, Crackdown, Forza, Gears, Halo, Sunset Overdrive, Phantom Dust all of those properties and their developers belong to them. They have every right to release those games exclusively on their store, and yet, every single one of them is on Steam except Crackdown and Foza.
“It’s about a company practicing anti-consumer tactics. Every consumer regardless should all be against this crap.”
False dichotomy of sorts. Not all ‘anti-consumer tactics’ are equal. In this case, most people don’t care because it doesn’t make any difference to them, even if they are anti-consumer.
If Epic wants to shake things up and drive numbers to their launcher like this, fine. I don’t really care tbh.
He can shove it up his a** with the rest of their game if this is what he thinks.
Take a look at this….
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1112771380813025280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1112771380813025280&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeuxvideo.com%2Fnews%2F1025136%2Fborderlands-3-une-date-de-sortie-et-un-logo-epic-games-store-apparus-dans-un-tweet-supprime.htm
Does 2K communicate with actual customers? I think, just like Koch Media/THQ with Metro, they’ll do whatever they damn well please and ignore the backlash while swimming in their bribe money.
Steam is pro-consumer and anti-developer.
Epic is anti-consumer and pro-developer.
As a consumer with a brain, which would you rather support?
Steam isn’t pro consumer. They really give no fs about the customer, honestly.
Epic isn’t any better. They both just want our money.
The only difference here is Epic is fighting for market, while Steam is sitting idle.
The only thing good for the consumer here is the competition. Once Epic gets big enough to really compete, then we will see some true “pro consumer” action.
Until then, we’re at the mercy of both. Let’s not be fooled by thinking any of them are our friends.
“Steam isn’t pro consumer. They really give no fs about the customer, honestly.
Epic isn’t any better.”
Totally agree Epic Games isn’t any better, they are much much worse.
He’s unreal (no pun intended!). He communicates like an SJW insofar as having a penchant for wilfully omitting crucial facts to suit his narrative while also deliberately twisting half-truths and other nonsense spouted by fools like Jim Sterling and PC Gamer to support his narrative.
“Steam… really give no fs about the customer, honestly”
You evidently have no idea of what you’re talking about, honestly.
Did b**thurts blocked you too ? 😀
He pretends like he has but every now and then his guard slips to reveal he’s been reading and frothing over my replies to his nonsense, lol!
Steam is NOT anti-developer, they allow everything on Steam. For big high profile games, developers will get 80% of the cut and the install base of Steam is much much bigger than all the other Digital PC Stores combined and then some.
They are though. Even big games get drowned in troll games and asset flips. By no means does Steam deserve the 30% cut they take from indies, or the smaller cut from bigger games.
I wish Steam reacted in a more meaningful way, but knowing them, it’s gonna take a couple years. All Gabe seems to care about these days is Linux.
I would argue Epic Games does not even deserve the 12% cut they take. Games published on the Epic Games Store are flopping hard and their developers reputations are being flushed down the toilet. Not worth the extra the 8-18% they will be making per sold copy if you ask me.
Absolute bullsh nonsense stated by someone who’s never even used Steam.
Nothing on Steam is “drowned” or “buried” by anything, period. The only games that you could say aren’t getting noticed because of the volume of indie games, are more indie games.
I’d love to see you come up with one single example of a AAA game that came out on Steam and didn’t succeed because of some childish bs nonsense you made up about “people not being able to find it.”
If a AAA game flops on Steam, it’s because that game is dog turd, like Just Cause 4.
Duke Nukem Forever “succeeded” on Steam. So don’t even pretend.
Calm your t*ts kid, I’ve been a PC gamer since 1993, and been using Steam for over 10 years.
By big games i didnt necessarily mean AAA games but also games from major publishers like Devolver. And I mostly said this because I’ve seen Steam going downhill over the last years. Sales aren’t what they used to be and there are more garbage games than ever, and Steam has doubled down on not doing any kind of quality control.
I wish someone could just throw a nice bucket of ice cold water on that sleeping cave troll of Gabe while yelling RISE AND SHINE M*FO! COMPETITION IS ON!
We all know Randy from the classic Aliens Colonial Marines, looks like he’s still looking out for his customers.
Epic, make piracy great again.
Prickford is one of the shadiest, most honor-less mercenaries in the business. If there is a way to make tons of cash he will do it and to hell with everything else. No art, artists, nor loyal fans are sacred – even though selling products in a normal, on-the-level manner in this industry still rakes in billions for those who’ve earned it.
It doesn’t matter, really… Am going to pirate the sheit out of this anyway.
This is going to be one of that games that you install just to see how they worked on it and then uninstall right after. At least for me this is just another meh in the industry.
Subnautica and Slime Rancher — each individually managed to reach over 4.5 million free downloads. That is the install base of Epic Games Store, no matter how many supposed Fortnite users Epic Games throws at our face.
Even if all the Install base of the Epic Games Store (4.5 million) buys Borderlands 3 on Epic Games Store, then Epic Games still makes less money on Epic Games Store from Borderlands 3 than they could potentially do from Borderlands 3 on Steam.
Epic Games Store = 0.12 x $60 x 4.5 Million = $32,400,000
Steam = 0.05 x $60 x 15 million = $45,000,000
You’re not taking into account that those games are old and a lot of people will own them on other platforms and so won’t bother to claim it on another.
The install base would have also increased as they are acquiring more and more exclusives.
I haven’t bought anything on Epic yet because I just want to see where the store will be in another year. I can wait for the games it’s all good. At this point though we should also be pointing fingers at Steam for their lack of competitive spirit.
“At this point though we should also be pointing fingers at Steam for their lack of competitive spirit.”
Epic Games Store is doing a better job of defeating themselves with their overly aggressive stance of taking games hostage and then following it up by the moronic tweets by Tim Sweeney defending it.
I just think there are a lot less people like you and I who follow the gaming news and a lot more people who just want to play games. Those people will not care what storefront they use.
This is true, but still i think for a reason or another many more than you think are pi**ed with this epic store thing.
Yeah but the point I am trying to make is that there are more people who don’t care. Honestly they even almost got me. Satisfactory hurt. And Phoenix Point was very dirty.
Probably, yes.
They don’t care about the store NOT because they are open to buying games from any store but because they are going to pirate regardless of the Store its on, but most definitely if its Epic Games Store exclusive.
Eh, that’s a speculation again. Hardcore gamers will pirate in this situation that’s for sure. Casual gamers who just play games will buy it on Epic store. I haven’t purchased anything there because I just want to see where the store is going to be in another year, but plenty of people on my Steams friends list (casuals) went onto Epic and got metro and yada yada. When I asked how they felt about it the reply was “I just don’t care”.
I do see the end of exclusives at some point though. Because this can’t be a long term tactic for Epic.
It’s pretty dumb to assume all 15 mil BL2 copies sold at 60$ on Steam.
That is why I said potential sales not definite sales.
Sure, but you’re also ignoring the bribe. Do we know how much that is? Afaik none of the devs or publishers have mentioned a number.
The only sort of confirmed bribe amount is what they gave the Pheonix Point developers Snapshot Games which was around $2 Million. Which is peanuts for AAA publishers.
Man imagine what they gave a massive game like BL3 then. I’ll just buy it on Steam, on sale with DLC included. Fukc Epic and their cash bribes.
Same here was not going to get Borderlands 3 anyway until it was 75% on Steam.
Timed = pirate it
Permanent = pirate it
Epic Games Store has fast become the de facto store for free to play. ?
If Pitchford says “releasing exclusively on the Epic Games Store” millions of gamers will hear “releasing exclusively on a CODEX torrent.”
All these Epic store exclusives used to make me mad, now I just look at the all the money I am saving and smile. I had not sailed to Tortuga for a game in at least 10 years before all this Epic crap.
Gonna Be Honest Guys… I played The hell out of borderlands 2, hacked, beat it like 8x over. And Borderlands is done for me, that stuff is old in todays world. Running around managing loot for guns every 5 levels and having “tons of guns” which are garbage anyways. when we all know only 5 guns out of the 1 million is actually of worth. That type of game was cutting edge and fun when it was released, now its just played out and done times over. So i say to thee, go get that Epic Store Fortine Money Randy, cause i ain’t buying your foolishness either way. Play 1 borderlands, you’ve played them all folks. Played one looter shooter you’ve played them all. I’m now in the mood for Linear games, sick of all this open world rubbish.
Of all the BS artists in the history of the industry, would you expect RANDY PITCHFORD to say anything else?
This dude is just as much of a scumbag, if not more, than Kotick, Metzen, Molyneaux, Wilson, Soderlund, or Mattick combined.
Don’t forget Kundratitz, Gratl and Kapelari. (The managing directors of Koch Media/Deep Silver)