As you all may know, Dead or Alive V: Last Edition will be the first Dead or Alive game to Debut on PC. There is a catch though, the developers have requested that modders on PC to be “Good and Moral” with their mods. Otherwise they won’t be releasing any more games on PC.
Well….. It looks like we’re not going to get any more Dead or Alive games on PC. If there is one thing in common among the PC community is that we don’t give a **** about the rules. Especially the modding community.
Although the developer has yet to clarify what exactly what they meant by “Good and Moral”. Back in 2004 Marvel sued “City of Heros” devs for allowing players to create their own characters. Gamers then created many Marvel characters which competed against Marvel’s own fighting game Marvel : Nemesis. The differences in situations City of Heros had character creation tools built in to the game, Dead or Alive V does not.
What do you think the devs meant by “Good and Moral”? Let us know in the comments below.
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How about no lmao.
Dumb devs
believe it or not, they have a history shutting down & and suing mod sites like they did for one for DOA3.
you can stick your threats up your a hole, and never release another game again, PC community will not be bullied by this company.
DOA5 is probably going to be a crap port anyway, the lack of communication with the community is ZERO, we dont even know what version we will get, feature ETC,
i would urge every one who preordered this game to cancel their preorders and to everybody else to boycott their games and their products.
What is going on with games development these days?!
suck my a*s, it smells
ahahahhahahhaha! keep your crappy console game then. titty and nude mods for all.
Lol how about screw you and your game?
Imo they’re probably just asking us not to do nude mods for the game, which won’t happen.
Well it was nice knowing you KoeiTecmo, you’ll be missed…. Because nude mods are going to cum hard & fast…. Pun intended.
Sir. just take my like 😀
It’s not about nude mods. All this is based of someone who clearly can’t translate. This is about them asking modders not to unlock the DLC for free. Which is a completely fair request, as well as not put content that is copyrighted into their game.
The original article knows exactly how to draw angry PC gamers around to read their article.
It’s so obvious, he says it straight out, that it’s about IP’s, and yet everyone falls for the speculation which makes no sense after
I’ve heard this being a translation error before, and I’m inclined to believe it.
But I wouldn’t say that an “IP holder perspective” couldn’t be connected to mods. Mods are IP infringements and they’re much much more likely to occur on PCs than on consoles. As a primarily console-oriented developer, they may not be used to outsiders changing parts of their games.
And since they specifically said “mod issues”, the assumption that they mean normal mods and not things like DLC cracks lies near.
It is about mods, just not about nude mods.
Let’s say someone mods Mario and Master Chief into the game, breaking someone else’s IP. So from their perspective, as an IP holder, they’d like for modders to respect others IP’s when modding things into their game.
I was joking around, though I think the “moral” aspect is very ambiguous and likely refers to nude mods. I understand nude mods were not the sole issue at hand though.
get lewd errryyday
That would make a cool t-shirt, typos and all
Pfft, that’s funny. Although I think I know why they don’t want modders to go nuts. Their nickel and dime DLC costume packs are in danger. I mean why would you spend money on their dlc when people mod the costumes in the games to pretty much anything you want. I’m expecting things like swapping costumes for characters that would normally be inaccessible amongst the rest of the mods, lewd or otherwise.
There are nude mods for the earlier games on XBOX. Didnt stop them making more.
Well, I guess this is the first and last DoA game for PC 🙂
The funny thing is that the game itself is far from good and moral. For one, they’re beating the s**t out of each other, and of course there’s big jiggly boobs everywhere and thongs.
Who are these jerks to threaten and demand moral behavior from their fans? I doubt they would have many fans if not for the morally questionable content.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zaScwt9YHII/Uho_RZhxQyI/AAAAAAAACY4/OSw4CQCXmow/s1600/tumblr_mfxoz5jyyp1r0p18uo1_500.gif
Pure Hypocrisy.
Yeah, not gonna happen.
Its like saying do your nastiest nude mod ever!! What a bunch of hypocrite clowns saying launching their threats like that! Prepare KoeiTecmo….
there will be nu*e mods for this game and there was some nu*e mods for it’s x360 version. that warning means a simple escape button for them to aviod future controversy
Dear Matt Followell,
Your article is full of fanboy clickbait. You seem to have conveniently chosen certain parts from the developer’s comment so you could get a discussion going on your article, thereby increasing hits.
Here’s the actual context –
“We have to deal with mod issues from an IP holder perspective,” Koei Tecmo producer Yosuke Hayashi said in an interview with trade publication MCV.
“We would like to ask PC users to play our game in good moral and
manner. Otherwise, we won’t be able to release a title for PC again.”
Hayashi didn’t elaborate on exactly what he considered “good and
moral” (or bad and immoral) modding, but his words could be a warning
against making the game’s scantily clad fighters even more scantily
clad by messing with in-game models. It’s already not hard to find
footage of “nude mods” for the existing console versions of the game
running through emulators or modified consoles; creating something
similar on a PC version would likely be trivial.
While Dead or Alive is already famous (or infamous) for its
well-endowed, barely covered fighters, Hayashi defended the revealing
nature of the unmodded character models to MCV. “Our characters, male
and female alike, are created in a fantasy setting and are using
extraordinary abilities to compete with each other in a clearly
light-hearted, over-the-top universe,” he said. “Their abilities are
very balanced and we want to present all of them as dynamic, strong,
sexy, and confident.”
“What is important to remember is that Dead or Alive is a series developed in Japan, where the interpretation of beauty is very different to that of Europe or the US,” he added.
— Source: Arstechnica
Now coming to your more outrageous claim:
“If there is one thing in common among the PC community is that we don’t
give a **** about the rules. Especially the modding community.”
— Really? With that kind of ignorance, it seems you’re more of an inexperienced wannabe journalist writing his first article than a PC gamer. The modding community very well knows what the rules are and sticks by them as much as possible. Modders are passionate gamers, not idiots. The issues with IP holders arise when copyright infringements occur through certain mods, or when they cause unnecessary controversy which restricts game sales (think Hot Coffee). The modders are clever enough to circumvent that by removing or replacing the material in question, thereby playing by the rules. No developers really care about trivial things such as some nude mods to satisfy some basement wanker’s fantasy; what they do care is about copyright and sales first and foremost. It’s obvious you’ve never been part of either the modding scene or any software development project in general. Just thank your stars you’re writing for DSOGaming which is much more lenient with these sorts of things and lets writers (and commenters too, thankfully) write whatever they want, instead of a stricter professional publication like Gamasutra or Gameindustry.biz.
And coming back to the future of DOA on PC, I as a PC (and PC-only) gamer would rather have the next DOA game than some lame nude mods when it really comes down to it.
When they see the sales numbers on steam and all the $$$$$$ they will give a F who does what with the Game. And besides Temco is acting like DOA is a top Tier fighting game or something ha ha.
Please tell me how you can stop some guy from modding the game.
No seriously.
This is utterly stuppid.
Also most people dont use mods in those games, so how it is their fault?
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So you made a game that features boobs and you want moders to do nothing!!! hahahaha
The thing I love about the PC as a gaming platform is its open and free nature and how much value the modding community adds to games. Trying to bind our hands by attempting to limit how we express ourselves, regardless of how tasteful or tasteless the mods are, goes against one of the PC’s biggest strengths. If the DOA devs wants a “safe” and locked down platform where players are forced to take games as is, then just stick with the consoles.
I like PC gaming because there doesn’t have to be a nanny standing between us and the content. We don’t need a parental figure telling us what we can’t have. If devs don’t make something we want for a particular game, some talented programmers/artists are going to do the job for us.
Looks like they’re asking for it…
People commenting but actually the devs chalenge the mods to go nude.
“Moral”
What the fùck is that even supposed to mean?
It’s a video game, there shouldn’t be any boundaries…
This wont stop hongfire modders.
Modders: “But dem Tig Bitties…”
This remind me of “Ironic process theory”… where they tell you not to think of something but then you can’t help it.
And yeah.. if they are serious about this then they are pretty much guaranteed to not release another PC game again. To me it kinda sounds like they didn’t want to in the first place and are looking for any excuse not to again.
And this comes from the guys that developed extreme beach volley? Should we make a new scale for hypocrisy or idiocy ? That said, if they act on that, then we definitely won’t see any more DOA on PC