Well, we all saw that coming. AMD has officially announced that FSR 4.0 will be exclusive to its RDNA 4 GPUs. FSR 4.0 will be an ML-based upscaling solution, similar to NVIDIA’s DLSS. As such, it will be locked behind the latest RDNA4 GPUs as those GPUs can effectively take advantage of it.
This right here shows why NVIDIA was on the right track all those years. I know, a lot of you are mad that the green team has been locking features behind its latest GPUs. But here we are with AMD doing the exact same thing.
This ML-based solution aims to provide better visual and performance. So, by using AMD FSR 4.0, owners of the RX 9070 and the RX 9070XT will be able to boost their performance with minimal image loss.
AMD claimed that FSR 4.0 will be using the same API as FSR 3.1. As such, it should be easy to replace FSR 3.1 with FSR 4.0. AMD did not go into details about how you can upgrade to FSR 4.0 in the games that already use FSR 3.1. At launch, PC gamers will be able to enjoy FSR 4.0 in 30 titles. By the end of 2025, there will be over 75 games that will support it. So, my guess is that you won’t be able to replace the DLL files of the games that use FSR 3.1 to enable FSR 4.0. Or at least that’s what I get from AMD’s statement.
It will be interesting to see how AMD FSR 4.0 fares against NVIDIA DLSS 4. DLSS 4 has made major improvements to image quality. Its Transformer model is right now miles beyond what FSR 3.1 can achieve. Since FSR 4.0 is an ML-based solution, though, it may come close to DLSS 3.
As for DLSS 4, we’ll have to compare them to find out whether they are comparable. Not only that, but NVIDIA still has the upper hand here. DLSS 4 has MFG and FSR 4.0 does not. Say what you want about “fake frames”, but NVIDIA is still way ahead. So, in this particular area, AMD is still playing catch up. Oh, and AMD has also used FSR 4.0 Frame Gen to advertise some enormous performance gains. This is another thing they’ve “borrowed” from NVIDIA.
Stay tuned for more!
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I appreciate that you will try to get a card for testing purposes but come on John. They showed and focused a lot more on Native performance gains than the Nvidia show did. I'd give them a bone for that at least especially when so many people were saying this price would be horrible if there werent any improvements to their upscaling or frame generation.
so they are basically doing what nvidia did but later and weaker, no wonder why GPU industry sux at the moment, there is no competition while AMD acting like a little bullied cu*k sucker
They are Worthless POS trash, and will Allways be!
Now these retards just Shoot themselves in GPU space, with their insane prices 🙄
And who is suprised. 9070XT should be 500$ maximum. Sh*t will be DOA!
F**k 7000 series adopters I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Great customer loyalty program they have there. They should at least state whether or not they intend to keep refining FSR 3.
I agree 100% that they should still improve on FSR3 but bear in mind that this generation AMD has promised for a long time that they would greatly improve RT performance since it was one of the things that they weren't competing well with Nvidia on. Until we get in depth reviews from sites like techpowerup we won't really know what AMD has had to do to the architecture to prepare for that performance increase. I know that FSR is software but there may be some aspects to FSR4 that make it dependent on those hardware changes.
Possibly they are pulling an Nvidia and just trying to get people to upgrade just for the software but I don't think we can know just yet.
Might not be any more room for improvement which is exactly why everyone is going to a AI neural network based solution. Nvidia's biggest advantage over the competition is they have these huge supercomputers built around DGX and HGX pods so they can more quickly train their models.
Evidence of that is DLSS 4's Transformer model has already been upgraded twice since January 31
FSR 1,2,3 all suck tbh. If I wouldnt have a dlss capable gpu, I would rather put a light sharpening filter and play at lower than native res with a true 16:9 resolution to avoid scaling issues. Thats what I was doing without dlss anyway (like 3200×1800 etc.).
I do expect FSR4 to look nearly identical to PSSR. But I am really curious for the results.
I hope not because PSSR is kinda 5h*t
I never saw it in person, as I refuse to support Sony any further with the PS5Pro, but yeah, I also expect it being only as good as the first iterations of dlls3 (in best case scenario) Since Sony co developed the hardware, I imagine they would be similar
Hi,
It appears that by manually toggling it in the AMD Software, we can easily enable FSR 4.0 in supported games.
Which means AMD is giving end users/gamers the option to enable it, on games which are already supporting FSR 3.1.
So the red team is giving a manual toggle option via the Adrenalin software.
Enabling it via HYPR-RX is also an option, but that will be limited to the supported list of games, as explained by an AMD rep at a recent Chinese event showcase.
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John, come on, wake up:
pay Metal Messiah some gentle bucks to help you in publishing more overall news. Even if just a couple articles a week, depending on his available free time, it is worth it.
The site really needs a lot more coverage on some rather important or cool news or industry commentary that is blatantly absent every week.
He already did it, you know him, we know him, we like him, he delivers good info, AND good analysis and is well written.
Come on. Raise the bar for this site.
Amen! MM is my go to guy when i want fast clear facts.
Both companies are doing this now (about time) and basically what they are doing is putting the newest DLLs in the application software so instead of having to drop a DLL in every game with DLSS or FSR4 instead every game with DLSS or FSR4 will just calls it from one DLL in the application software
Now all you do is upgrade the application software and all your games are instantly upgraded too. I suspect this will soon become part of the DX12 APIs so developers only need to write the code once and it works on all brands. That's basically what they did with Ray Tracing extensions to the API
Both companies are doing this now (about time) and basically what they are doing is putting the newest DLLs in the application software so instead of having to drop a DLL in every game with DLSS or FSR4 instead every game with DLSS or FSR4 will just calls it from one DLL in the application software
Now all you do is upgrade the application software and all your games are instantly upgraded too. I suspect this will soon become part of the DX12 APIs so developers only need to write the code once and it works on all brands. That's basically what they did with Ray Tracing extensions to the API
IMO that ghosting wasnt FSR4 fault. This was PT tech demo and I guess the number of rays was too low, so denoiser had problems. I saw similar ghosting in the cyberpunk with CNN ray reconstruction, but the transformer model greatly reduced that ray reconstruction ghosting.
Yeah the toy shop demo is more of a demo for why ray reconstruction (ie, some better form of denoising) is crucial to real time RT and especially PT. AMD is unfortunately only flexing how far behind they still are in terms of RT/PT. Cuz even if it's performant, I would never want to play an RT title if it looked like that demo.
They are basically taking advantage of consumer stupidity. Nvidia did it and now AMD is to follow suit.
This was old news, anyway sucks for those who have old gens.
This was old news, anyway sucks for those who have old gens.
Well, no reason to stay with amd. Guess I'll finally get a Nvidia card once the next gen or Gen that is dlss5 exclusive is then.