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AMD assures its future next-gen Zen 4/Zen 5 Ryzen CPUs and RDNA 3-based GPUs are on track

At the CES 2021 event, Dr. Ian Cutress of Anandtech, interviewed AMD’s CEO, Dr. Lisa Su regarding company’s future plans, and how the current demand, supply and tariff situation is going to affect the launch of future products from AMD.

Lisa assured that the CPU teams are highly focused on the next-gen upcoming Zen 4 and Zen 5 CPU architectures, and GPU team is also currently working hard on developing the new RDNA 3 architecture which is going to land up in future AMD RX Radeon series of high-end GPUs.

This doesn’t come as a surprise since AMD had a lot of success lately with the current Zen 3 CPU lineup, and its RDNA2-based Radeon GPUs. Lisa confidently stated that AMD’s next-generation Zen 4 and Zen 5 core architectures are already being readied and prepped, and these are going to be extremely competitive as well.

As Lisa Su stated in the Q&A session with Anandtech:

“Mark, Mike, and the teams have done a phenomenal job. We are as good as we are with the product today, but with our ambitious roadmaps, we are focusing on Zen 4 and Zen 5 to be extremely competitive. Bets are made, and we track the progress.”

AMD’s Rick Bergman also spoke on AMD’s next-gen Zen 4 Ryzen CPU lineup, coming via The Street:

Q- How much of the performance gains delivered by AMD’s Zen 4 CPUs, which are expected to use a 5nm TSMC process and might arrive in early 2022, will come from instructions per clock (IPC) gains as opposed to core count and clock speed increases.

Bergman: “[Given] the maturity of the x86 architecture now, the answer has to be, kind of, all of the above. If you looked at our technical document on Zen 3, it was this long list of things that we did to get that 19% [IPC gain]. Zen 4 is going to have a similar long list of things, where you look at everything from the caches, to the branch prediction, [to] the number of gates in the execution pipeline. Everything is scrutinized to squeeze more performance out.”

“Certainly [manufacturing] process opens an additional door for us to [obtain] better performance-per-watt and so on, and we’ll take advantage of that as well.”

Even though we don’t have much technical info on AMD’s Zen 4 CPU architecture, but the platform is surely going to be overhauled and refined than previous gen Zen architectures. More importantly, Ryzen CPUs based on this Zen 4 architecture will support a brand new AM5 platform which will offer next-generation DDR5 compatibility & USB 4.0 support as well. The Zen 4 will transition to a new AM5 socket.

So expect even more performance per watt and efficiency gains with the Zen 4 CPU lineup. Apart from this, AMD also plans to increase the CPU core counts with this lineup. Currently, we have up to 64 cores on servers & high-end desktops/HEDTs, 16 cores on the mainstream consumer and gaming desktop section, and 8 cores on the mobility platform, and the Notebook market as a whole.

With Zen 4, we can expect even higher core count SKUs, like e.g. 96 cores on the server/HEDT platform, 32 cores on the mainstream desktop platform, and 12-16 cores under the mobility section.

“There will be more core counts in the future – I would not say those are the limits! It will come as we scale the rest of the system.” Lisa Su via Anandtech.

When it comes to the next-gen RDNA 3 GPU architecture, Lisa assured that David Wang and the team are currently focused on long term roadmaps.

 “Also on GPUs, David Wang and the team focus on our long term roadmaps, and we pick the right mix of risk to get innovation, performance, and predictability.

Bets are made, and we track the progress. We’re happy with RDNA2 on performance per watt, and overall performance, and we have a lot of focus on RDNA3. On elements such as AI specific integration, we are making investments. CDNA launched in November, and you will see us adding more AI capability to our CPUs and GPUs” – Lisa Su via Anandtech.

AMD’s Rick Bergman also spoke regarding RDNA 3 GPUs, once again coming via The Street:

Q- Whether AMD is aiming for its RDNA 3 GPUs, which will use a more advanced manufacturing process, to deliver performance-per-watt improvements similar to the 50%-plus improvements delivered by its RDNA 2 GPUs, and its future plans for the Infinity Cache technology used by RDNA 2 GPUs.

Bergman: “Let’s step back and talk about the benefits of both. So why did we target, pretty aggressively, performance per watt [improvements for] our RDNA 2 [GPUs]. And then yes, we have the same commitment on RDNA 3.”

“It just matters so much in many ways, because if your power is too high — as we’ve seen from our competitors — suddenly our potential users have to buy bigger power supplies, very advanced cooling solutions. And in a lot of ways, very importantly, it actually drives the [bill of materials] of the board up substantially This is a desktop perspective. And invariably, that either means the retail price comes up, or your GPU cost has to come down.”

“So [there are] actually a lot of efficiencies…if you can improve your perf-per-watt substantially. On the notebook side, that’s of course even more obvious, because you’re in a very constrained space, you can just bring more performance to that platform again without some exotic cooling solutions…We focused on that on RDNA 2. It’s a big focus on RDNA 3 as well.”

“On Infinity Cache, it’s somewhat linked to that as well, to a certain degree. If you’ve been in graphics for a long time, you realize there’s a pretty good correlation between memory bandwidth and performance. And so typically, the way you do it is you jack up your memory speed and widen your [memory] bus to open up performance. Unfortunately, both of those things drive up power [consumption].”

So it appears that AMD seems to be very confident about its future next-gen products, and the company also has a very strong CPU and GPU roadmap. It will be interesting to see how these next-gen products are going to compete against INTEL and Nvidia’s offerings. But the competition is going to be tough for sure.

Stay tuned for more tech news!

9 thoughts on “AMD assures its future next-gen Zen 4/Zen 5 Ryzen CPUs and RDNA 3-based GPUs are on track”

  1. I dont think we need more cores though… 8 and 16 is WAY enough for the every day computer and gamer in terms of software. Granted, more cores isn’t bad if it just comes with it ~ but I really dont see the need to increase core count for the desktop level really. Server and
    workstations sure ~ but desktop it would be a bit over kill. Instead, they should really focus on IPC and bring new technology to the forefront with their shrinks.

    1. Yep that’s right ………. but after intel has raised the white flag and they’re going “fabless” (in someways !), intel now will focus more on their architectures, i hope AMD holds some secret weapons to counter intel like : 4-Threads per core, Better L3 Cache Management; Extra Low-Latency, Higher frequencies, Better overclocking … (& low prices !!)

      1. Last thing you said is very important we need Intel to come back and come back strong so prices drop, remember those 1600AF CPU’s for just 85$ a few years ago? Yeah we need more CPU’s like that.

        I do agree that as of 2021 16 Cores are enough for most people, However i think Amd is aiming for IPC upgrades Lisa Su even basically stated that lol. Amd is not aiming for a bulldozer design i think we all know that but i’ve been hearing rumors about SMT allowing for 4 threads per core(Since Zen 2) but that also means we will have wider cores as well.

        I wouldn’t be sad to see 12 core CCX’s however instead of 8 core ones by 5 or 3nm. Latency is lower doing this as the threads don’t have to use the other chiplet in applications or even games that can use more than 8 cores.

        1. in 2021, AMD to aim the mobility market to tear out not a slice but a big piece of the cake ! intel know that, and they already feel the threat as more competitors come to the mobility market with massive products especially ARM(NVIDIA) and M1(Apple) ..etc. Seeing the actual situation :
          1-EPYC is crushing Dual-Xeon in Benchmarks
          2-Ryzen is wiping out Core ix CPUs from the market
          3-The Couple (Nvidia/ARM, M1/Apple)
          4-RDNA3(Chiplet design!!), AMD APUs, AMD FPGA, RDNA2 in Samsung Mobile Phones … etc
          5-AMD partnership with Sony (PS5) & Microsoft (XBOX SX) !!

          All i can say that intel is in deep deep deep s****t !!!
          (unless they come out with a quantic CPU ….. hhhhhhhhhhh)

  2. “we have a lot of focus on RDNA3. On elements such as AI specific integration, we are making investment”

    RDNA 2.0 is already on par with Ampere in terms of raster performance but ray tracing is basically half as good. I actually recommend all of you read this article from Techspot called “Nvidia Ampere vs. AMD RDNA 2: Battle of the Architectures”

    Goes in detail comparing the 2 architectures.

    The above quote basically makes me think DLSS on Amd might work with their own version but with RDNA 2.0 i don’t think it will come, with great performance benefits without major visual downgrades but i could be wrong.

    I would LOVE to see more infinity cache i think that is why the cards start to lose their edge at 4K as of now, but in the future i for sure expect that Vram limitation to hurt the current 3000 series cards just like how the 7970 Ghz edition out lasted the GTX 680 in modern games.

    Say what you want but i personally game at 1440P 144hz and i do NOT want ray tracing unless i can at least get 80+ FPS and i’m a graphics wh*re, I think by the 5000 RTX series we will finally have that.

    Wish that 3080 had at least 12GB of vram that’s the card i want cause i own a G-sync only monitor and refuse to give that up haha love it.

  3. who cares about track if it will be sold with very high price (or even no stock?). intel, it’s ur chance to make competition..

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