As we’ve already said, the old-gen console versions of Wolfenstein: The New Order have been leaked and players have been sharing videos from it. And while there is a day-one patch that MachineGames has prepared for it, it appears that the vanilla version suffers from a really awful enemy AI system. We’d go as far to say that the new Wolfenstein game looks boring (from both the above and the following video), though we have to keep in mind that things may get better once players apply the day-one patch. Still, if for some reason you cannot connect Online from the get-go, you are simply screwed. Wolfenstein: The New Order releases on May 20th!
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Do we know which difficulty settings this is from? You really can’t judge AI untill you play on the higher difficulties.
I’m sure its on the lowest setting because heaven forbid if some console scrub actually died while recording footage.
my brother pirated the ps3 version. thats correct. they do more damage only. terrible game… wolfenstein is dead to me.
Sounds like you have not been around long enough for it to be alive with you.
PS4 version / “Bring ’em on!” difficulty (normal)
Cool story. PS4 is not even hacked yet and this video is in 720p.
probabky just easymod – which has crapAI in every game
I really dont get wtf is going on in the first video.
Why dont they have guns? Why he uses the laser cutter? Why are they acting like zombies? Why is there horror music in the background?
As for the second video, there is nothing wrong with it, it is pretty much the same as the fear 2-3 mech parts, i am actually glad you get to go inside a mech.
If this is your idea of bad ai, well sorry but unless i see the ai doing stupid things while shooting and not trying to exlpoit it, then i cant agree that the ai is bad.
Well, if “good” AI was as much like a real player as possible, then such bots would be moving about, taking cover, etc. We see none of that, even in the mech sequence.
Standing in one spot and not moving is pretty much as far from player-like as you can get in an AI entity.
I saw that on another video. The ai does strafe and take cover.
I don’t think the mech scene had necessarily bad AI. The guy was just playing it on the easiest difficulty so of course the enemies looked incompetent.
Can’t see what the AI can do really in this situation. Like, you’re in a mech, they’re trying to overwhelm the player with sheer number via firing at you from every direction….
The only differences that could be made would be whether or not AI/Enemies can lay down and shoot at you and whether or not they make it harder via providing rocket launchers to them.
I think this overall is grasping at straws though at trying to attack Bethesda, probably vultures that are coming in for the kill for Wolfenstein/Doom since id are going downhill too.
Exactly they are just tiny ants in comparison wtf they gonna do?
The video above is weird. There is clearly some kind of bug or something, because they are just walking like zombies.
The video below seems fine to me (except for that crazy finger :D). That guy just probably set the easiest difficulty.
yeah no face reactions either, they are not angry while fighting the player.
Casualstein.
Haha, the AI in that first video is indeed horrible. It’s probably best not to judge a game by it’s pirated early leak build, though. I’m interested to read some early reviews on this issue, however.
Isnt there supposed to be quite a hefty day 1 patch for this? Perhaps there are things missing from the version that these filthy console pirates are playing.
AI or not. Its a disgusting sick game that should be avoided no matter what. Truly a game for sadistic psychopaths and equally like minded scum. One should keep this in mind:
ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks and BOYCOTT everything they make or will ever make for that matter, its NO wonder why there is NO real ID Software around anymore with scum leadership like that. Doom 4 who cares ?? The real guys aint making it, so why would anyone care despite its title ?
shutup and stop being a drama queen/ grand theft autp os way more sadistic, but there both games, so take a freaking chill pill.
Boycott the companies that didn’t actually make the game? Bethesda is only a publisher for it, machinegames made the game. Beshesda is also a game studio that makes games like the elder scrolls series and fallout 3…
eh what? Should i remind you doom 3? The original devs dont always do thebest stuff.
Not going off this video one bit.
Not going off this video one bit. Waiting till the 20th.
Game makers should go independent from publishers and makers like
ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks just like the real ID Software
did! Read about ZeniMax and Bethesda and you see that they actually
hire gangsters as CEO:s! Aliens: Colonial Marines Version 2014 is what
this is. Avoid this trash game made by Sweden.
Publishers could avoid bad impressions by *gasp* allowing reviews to be posted before release. When they do these blackouts I feel like I have to assume the game is crap.
Anyone missing the excellent AI of F.E.A.R. ?
playing it right now, its good but not excellent. The radio chatter makes it seem much better than it really is. Eg you press slow mo and the enemies say “he is too fast” its just a script.
It was really one of the best games in terms of AI at the time.i liked it specially when they tried to flank me.:-)
well, i like their “he wiped the whole squad” and overall cowardness, thats my experiance with fear ai, if you play on higher difficulities you take alot of damage and since you got so much slow mo, you pretty much headshot everyone in order to survive, so they dont get to flank you, they just fall back and stay put.
i did not use slow motion because i liked it more without it and so even in hard they sometimes flanked me.i could not take them fast enough.
without slow mo they are pretty damn fast.
All shooters have a crap aiming system. The worst was Far Cry 3 on the 360 and Killzone on the PS4. The last Wolfenstein was cack. Graphically, this looks decent, but it’ll probably be flawed. I suppose bugs can be fixed. I wish there was a fix for Killzone on the PS4 to actually make it playable. These days, I’m very wary of shooters, this included.
thats why we play fps on pc, SAME aiming system.
It is obviously finished game code as will appear in retail boxes. I bet it is leak from company that manufactures DVDs/Blurays for release.
I bet my grandmother and my one leg cousin friendship it wasnt a normal game.
Like a newspaper sometimes post some articles from an unknown uncredit reporter why would this site publish a video from an unknown source?
Yikes. That looks truly awful though not surprising since Bethesda’s publishing. Glad I’m giving this one a pass.
I really don’t get why everyone is trying to sabotage the release of this game. Bugs can be fixed, you know. Colonial Marines was bad all around, not just because of lack of polishing.
And besides the normal difficulty, the link says that it’s the PS4 version (with 720p). How is that possible? AFAIK the old gen version was leaked, and usually old gen gets less attention than current gen.
You insist that we don’t need to wait until a multiplatform game come out? We need to write the review right away, without seeing a game?
Nobody said anything about writing reviews, I’m just writing from an ‘end-user’ standpoint.
Maybe having been gaming since ’87 gives me another perspective, I don’t know, but to me it was obvious this videogame was going to suck, it was confirmed with that ridiculous ‘stealth vs mayhem’ trailer, and it’s confirmed again now. Way too many red flags.
And it’s not blind hate or whatever, for example, I’m really looking forward to Killing Floor 2.
If you have absolutely zero interest in the game, why are you even commenting on this thread? Please go preach somewhere else and let people judge for themselves.
I’m commenting on this thread because it amazes me how almost everyone is willing to say ridiculous things like the footage we’ve seen is from an unfinished version of the game (????) or that they’re playing on easy (like that would make the AI suddenly retarded)
What, only good things should be allowed to say about unreleased games? Even though there are and have been lots of pieces of information pointing the obvious?
In other words you’re trying to ruin it for others with your own negativity. If you don’t like the game, that’s great. But please stop waving your opinions like they’re some sort of heavenly mandate around here and claiming everyone else is deluded. If people want to get educated about the drawbacks of the game, they’ll do so of their own accord an not due to your unsolicited prodding.
Why would you think I’m being ‘negative’?? Criticizing aspects of a video game is now suddenly frowned upon here?
And why would I want to ‘ruin’ anything for anybody?? How could I even DO that? You give me too much credit man.
Honestly you sound (read) as if you were an employee in MachineGames/Bethesda/Zenimax.
I’m just calling flaws in a video game as I see them, just deal with it, and if you don’t agree with something that’s just fine; we can discuss them no problem, but don’t come here accusing me of being ‘negative’, ‘preaching’ and the other guy said everyone was trying to ‘sabotage’ this game (HAHAHAOHWOW.jpg) Maybe he’s an employee too xD.
And if so called ‘unsolicited prodding’ bothers you THAT MUCH, then why am I not seeing you telling other people that they can keep their unsolicited praising to themselves too? Explain to me (if you want, of course) why is it ok to sing praises of video games (released or not) and it’s SO WRONG to criticize them?
Fanboys. Fanboys never change.
“Why would you think I’m being ‘negative’?? Criticizing aspects of a video game is now suddenly frowned upon here?”
— No, calling out on other people’s choices are.
“And why would I want to ‘ruin’ anything for anybody?? How could I even DO that? You give me too much credit man.”
— You can’t, yet you try endlessly with your incessant whining about it being a “console shooter”. You said it the first time around in another article, no need to go on and on.
“Honestly you sound (read) as if you were an employee in MachineGames/Bethesda/Zenimax.”
— And honestly you just sound like a prick.
“I’m just calling flaws in a video game as I see them, just deal with it, and if you don’t agree with something that’s just fine”
— That’s pretty much what I’ve been trying to tell you. Don’t try and wave your opinion in others’ faces. Don’t like the game, state as such and be done with it.
“And if so called ‘unsolicited prodding’ bothers you THAT MUCH, then why
am I not seeing you telling other people that they can keep their
unsolicited praising to themselves too?”
— Because I like the game so far. Duh?
“why is it ok to sing praises of video games (released or not) and it’s SO WRONG to criticize them?”
— Again, I have nothing against you for not liking the game and stating as such, even though it hasn’t released yet. But persisting with constant drivel such as “omg you guys like console shooter lulz” is neither required not welcome.
Wow… uh, I didn’t know you were that upset. Look you shouldn’t take it personal dude, it’s just video games. You say it’s good I say it’s shit. Let’s leave it at that, I wouldn’t want you bursting a blood vessel (hint: that was a joke)
Sure, whatever you say. Maybe you should go easy on the blind hate next time so I wouldn’t have to get all serious and start bursting blood vessels and stuff. To each his own.
If you playing since ’87 you should have known about Starbreeze Studios and their games. They deserve a credit.
Yes, I do know them, some are hits, some are misses, so? MachineGames was formed by the apparently best stock Starbreeze had, however New Order was developed under Zenimax and we know what kind of products they put out there…
One video and tada ai is totally broken i can do the same for crysis and far cry 2.