Man, things are really going downhill for Ubisoft. After the whole 900p/30fps debate parity surrounding Assassin’s Creed: Unity, a new report surfaced, suggesting that both Microsoft and Sony are pressuring the French company for 30FPS even on the PC. Yeap, you read that right; MS and Sony are pressuring Ubisoft to lock the PC versions of their games at 30FPS. Hilarious.
This information comes straight from Ubisoft’s employees. During a school presentation about game programming, a Ubisoft employee revealed the following information.
Kudos to Reddit for providing the following transcript.
“So what the hell happened with watch dogs?” u/Egg_Slicer
During the presentation, the Online Programmer said that just before they release a game, they have to send a copy to console manufacturers, which then tell them what to keep and what to throw away (sooo yeah Watch Dogs maybe ?).
“30fps vs 60fps” ? everyone
The Game Architect said that they aim for 60 fps but due to “limitations”, they have to settle for 30 fps in recent games. He then implied that console makers are pressuring them into doing the same thing on PC.
“Ask how bad the upper/middle management is.” u/Ed130_The_Vanguard
The HR rep said that managers are former programmers and can sometimes be interns. But people are always managed by someone who could do their job.
Not asked, but worth mentionning :
The Game Architect said that they try to re-use code as much as possible. So that’s maybe what happened with the AI in Watch Dogs which was taken from AC.
“Are you aware of the negative response to the recent decision to lock your games (like AC:Unity) into 30 frames per second? If so, what do you think about that?” u/TwinDragonsOfChaos
I asked this question at the end of the presentation, everyone laughed. The Game Architect said that on consoles, and for this type of game, they have to chose between graphical fidelity and smoothness. He implied that MS is making them lock the framerate on PC too. Then, he smiled, said “But our eyes can’t see past 24 fps anyway” and winked at me.
“Then maybe ask about the impact of AI on these APUs in the consoles.”
They said they have to use Microsoft’s cloud instead of the APU to do the AI in certain games due to hardware limitations.
“You can also ask what is the preferred platform to develop for.”
PC, because they have to use specific languages and debuggers for each console and then validate the game with the constructor.
“You should ask them if they get any say in what the PR people are telling us.”
They don’t. Clearly the two engineers were no peasants, but they were asked questions they could not answer. He only implied that there were hardware limitations all over the place. And his wink when he told me that 24fps was all we needed confirmed that.
“Do people who work for Ubisoft have mobility ? Can they work abroad if they want or change their career path ?” (question from a classmate)
Yes, engineers can become managers and vice-versa, they can also fill openings in other studios, or change teams.
[UPDATE]
The original Reddit poster contacted us about the story. In order to protect his identity, we removed the link to Reddit, removed information about Ubisoft’s employee, and deleted the line in which we claimed that the information comes from Ubisoft itself (Reddit’s poster claimed that it was his deduction and not the exact words of Ubisoft’s employee). While we’ll keep this story live, we sure as hell want to protect both Ubisoft’s employee and Reddit’s poster.
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God damn microsoft. Windows and PC is theirs for christs sake, they should support PC gaming alongside Xbox, not gimp it. Jesus christ, microsoft, here you are, saving pc gaming again. I can understand sony a bit, but microsoft. Good thing we have moders and Durante to fix the vedelopers bullshit
They don’t own PC’s just the operating system. That’s why PC games can remain cheaper, because you don’t pay for the brand name at the top of the case.
Of course, but you get what i mean. Pc gaming should be their back yard, they shouls support it, encourage it. I mean you need windows which they sell, you use DX which they make.
And that’s exactly why they can get away with it. Unless every, game dev/publisher in this case, decides to support other OSs and/or every PC gamer decides to ditch this “monopoly”, M$ can do what they want.
Sad but true :/
And both Windows and DirectX have been “optimized” terribly for gaming. Thanks, Microsoft.
That’s not direcly MS’ fault though, that’s leagacy support doing the big damage there, otherwise your PC would be the same as a console with no forward or backward compatibility. Hope DX12 finally changes that.
rumors say mantle is infact more low level.
I’m sure it is, MS will always have legacy to worry about. A new API removes that as it completely drops legacy support. I just hope it approximates it enough though. DX12 will still be the winning API in that war, there’s probably no way around it.
Nuh-uh, you don’t get to bail them out with that buIIs#!t. Legacy support my a$$. Developers were groaning and complaining about DirectX being crap back in the 90s already. It’s always been bad. You don’t get to blame that on legacy support.
I say f DX12. Microsoft is trying to sabotage PC gaming. Nothing good will come out of it.
Many developers are started to recognize SteamOS and OpenGL. It will be a long hard road, but no one believed in Steam and now it shines. Back then, Valve even didn’t had resources that they have now.
When I’ve read the “long hard road” you’ve wrote made me remember and ask why things got “DX centric” in the first place. I’m not that old of a gamer, but I remember a lot of titles that gave us the option to choose various renderers. Of course a lot of those companies where bought or failed, or evolved into something else, but why instead of creating something new, or continue to work with the already stabilished ones (like the OpenGL), they’ve decided to simply let M$ “handle” it? It baffles me.
In short, they did it like they solve all their problems, throw obscene amounts of cash at it, hoping it will blind people to their incompetence.
For a longer much more in depth explanation, read this: blog.wolfire . com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX
I’d say it’s just happened, historically. Someone wins a war, someone loses. I’m sure there is a lot of reading material can be found on this theme via google.
But, no one expected that Microsoft will “tighten the screws” on the PC gaming. But it’s not just that. Everything that they doing is worthless for PC for like 10 years. At least from a gamer point of view. They cared only about Xbox. And now it’s confirmed that they even want to sabotage PC. 30 FPS? Seriously?
DX10 didn’t improved graphics at all (compared to what DX9 did after DX7 and DX8). Every screenshot I’ve seen was just a marketing bool’sheet, created to sell a copy of Vista.
Tesselation on DX11? Bite my shiny metal ss. Model assets often lack of basic quality, and the game itself looks worse than what can be done on DX9. It’s like… trying to sprinkle the sugar on a long rotten fruit. Will it make it more tasty? And again, it was created only to sell Windows 7. They didn’t want to advance the PC gaming.
After that, what should we expect from DX12?
It’s time to move away from Windows, and I’m glad that Valve understands that.
But it isn’t and it hasn’t been since they introduced the first s#!tbox. They want to sell hardware that was their goal. They’ve been trying to sabotage PC gaming ever since. At least now finally everybody understands.
This is the same thing they did with Windows 8. Seek unification by dumbing everything down to the lowest common denominator (Windows Phone in the case of Windows, consoles in this one). Truly shameful.
the irony is xbox division is not profitable. Windows is.
over 95% of Microsoft company profit comes from PC!!! Yet PC is platform that Microsoft takes fully for granted! That is what monopoly does.
at one hand is they ditch xbone they wil focus on pc at the other hand if they do that sony will declare monopoly like they did with ps3.
If they would focus all their energy and money that they threw at their failed foray into the console market at making PC gaming more attractive and competitive to both developers and consumers, they could’ve probably hurt Sony a lot more by converting people away from console to PC.
But then again it’s Microsoft, on top of being evil they are also incompetent so maybe not.
“hey could’ve probably hurt Sony a lot more by converting people away from console to PC.”
exactly.
Yes agreed. If MS wants “Xbox” to survive, they better focus on their Windows Store with AAA games under that banner.
Heck, even performance tiering their consoles would improve a lot, releasing a new, more powerful box every 2 years or so with backwards compatibility in place would stop this gimping of PC games.
Earlier boxes would run the newer games at lower performance and that’s it, just like Steambox will be.
MS just doesn’t get it and I don’t think Phil Spencer will be much of a difference over Don Mattrick, but we’ll see.
What are you talking about? The PS3 barely managed to end up profitable in its last few years. Sony was playing catchup with the Xbox 360 the first 4+ years of the generation simply because they started with an absurd price and one year late.
If you mean that Microsoft abandoned the Xbox 360 by no longer bringing any exclusives to it other than Halo 4, yeah, you may have a point.
i know i heard that ps3 lost more money than they made with ps2 and it turned profitable in 2010 and sony is STILL lossing billions each year.
No profit, playstation is where they get money from.
What i am saying is that the xbox division has not been profitable so they may ditch it in the future.
They promised to focus on PC this summer. Here’s what we’ve got. Now you know what happens when they say “PC platform will get our attention soon”.
Releasing a new OS every 2-3 years, where the most killer feature is a 0.000001 version of DirectX – doesn’t make you a platform holder. Unlike Valve, they doing nothing for PC for almost like 10 years, since DX9 and the first Xbox.
did you read my post about evil within, it runs far better than the console versions.
so it runs slighlty worse than wolfenstein
“Slightly” worse, on a “slightly” better configuration with a “slightly” worse graphics.
Not true, wolfenstein doesnt have dynamic shadows or dynamic lighting thats why the game doesnt have flashlights or a torch or anything like that.
Both Xbox, and Playstation factories should burn in flames!
Especially $0N¥’s, they’re the ones brainwashing people making them think their peasant box does 1080p60 on all the games, when it can’t. MS at least does something for PC gamers, though it isn’t much right now.
http://postimg.org/image/o7fqbmygv/
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485754
Why i dont trust sony and call them the “good guys” and “saviors of gaming” like sony fanboys do.
Yep, we don’t forgive and we do not forget!
Lies, BS, and crap from almost a decade ago.
Mentally ill fanboys with bizarre hatred for corporations and pieces of plastic, folks.
hey its demfax new acount.
Keep damage controling kid.
Too bad the console versions run on low
“MS at least does something for PC gamers, though it isn’t much right now.”
WTF?
Sony Online Entertainment produces mostly PC exclusive games, like Planetside 2.
And Sony has the more powerful console, meaning they are the least responsible for the sh**ty ports.
Locking apps into a proprietary API called DirectX is not “doing something for PC gamers”. They are desperately trying to keep the Windows market share as high as possible.
This entire article turned out to be complete bullshit posted to the sick, blind mustard subreddit insane asylum. Good job showing how gullible and stupid fanboys are.,
This entire article turned out to be complete bullshit posted to the sick, blind mustard subreddit insane asylum. Good job showing how gullible and stupid fanboys are.
Oh boy a s**t storm is coming in the comment section lol
This is why consoles are cancer.
Yep! Demfax has a new account “demderp”, BTW.
so he got banned and made another one.
wow just wow what is this the 23535th time?
Yep, on VG247 again, at first is was something like “you_are_evil_get_help”. Hilarious, because he’s such a brainwashed low IQ playslave and is the real one needing help.
He is mentally unstable and going around telling people to get help?
That seems to be the case.
yup he is under your post right now attacking me.
You are blind, vile, lying, ignorant fanboy waste. You have made actual death threats on disqus and you have a blind, deranged hatred for pieces of plastic.
“You are blind”
Then how am i reading this?
Lionheart you are deranged, worthless, lying, constantly wrong, ignorant, hypocritical, mentally diseased, pure evil human waste.
i see only one mentally ill person and human waste here that has nothing better to do than attack people to make them change THEIR opinions.
Just killyourself.
lol. He got banned from most sites for spam. Better visit VG 24/7 to make fun of him.
nah. i never visit that site so if he fckng STAYS THERE.
Good.
KEEP reporting him for spam. I did thats propably why he got banned.
He is here attacking me. scroll down the comments
HEAR HEAR!
Hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!
What you dont like consoles?
Who cost bazillions to make with crappy architectures? Who basicly created the “1.5” sequels that we play today. Who have royality fees and 10 bucks from every copy sold has to be given to mafia like sonand ms, not ot mention paying thousands for a licence and hundrends of thousands for devkits and ofcourse testing the game before releasing it.Who killed entire genres becuase they are not casual enough, who make you pay for mp,who hold franchises hostages, who pay devs for exlusive crap, who run like crap and dont have backwards compability?
Shame on you , you are not a “Real gamer”
“Real gamers” are corporate slaves.
lol
lol
Not sure if your accurate about him being a real gamer, but you could use a spell checker on your posts.
i could also not speak 4 languages something you grammar nazis do not.
When your comments probably mean the exact opposite of what you probably mean and don’t convey an accurate meaning then yes I have every right to criticize you. For example your last comment: You speak 4 languages? Well, according to your actual comment you comment that you don’t speak 4 languages. Probably because in whatever your native language is the subject and verbs are in a different part of the sentence than in English. Of course I only communicate in English and Bad English.
” Of course I only communicate in English and Bad English.”
and i speak 4 languages, continue to be a grammar nazi while speaking only one.
More sick, deranged, lying fanboyism.
Yeah ok i am just gonna wait for the order to come out so they can expose that it is infact not 1080p but it is rendering on a lower resolution.
We have consoles because they are lcoked out underpowered boxes that dont do anything as well a pc nor have any capability.
Can i unlock fps on a console? Can i change fov? use mods? Can i use diffirent controllers or a mouse? Do consoles have backwards compablity? Whats that i need to pay for mp? Well screw you am not paying.
Hope consoles die off and you use steamboxes instead.
Can’t wait to buy my Xbox One, set it right next to my PC and then rub them together in the worlds most blasphemous act of heresy and betrayal. I will record this so as to show the masses. Oh the chaos that will ensue. The debates over whether or not I am a peasant will be glorious indeed.
Then… Ima play Halo while I wait for my WoW queues to pop to pour salt in the wound.
play what you want wherver you want, we just merely point out that they pushed the whole “graphics over gameplay” thing so far and now the new consoles are basicly weak pcs in a box that cant produce the graphics they were aiming for.
This entire article turned out to be complete bullshit posted to the sick, blind mustard subreddit insane asylum. Good job showing how gullible and stupid fanboys are.,
ahhahah yeah sure think kid, its not like they LIED about requirments.
We can unlock this haha, look for the crew, Dead Rising 3, you failed again against PC Master RACE Sony and M$
read this
evil within: we’re left with a 1920×768 resolution on PlayStation 4 and a meagre
1600×640 on Xbox One. In effect, it’s the now-familiar 1080p vs 900p
set-up here, but the intrusive borders serve to cut-down actual
rendering resolution significantly. Only 71 per cent of the screen’s
real estate is actually used for gameplay – and the aspect ratio
utilised is actually a higher 2.5:1 rather than the ‘cinematic’ 2.35:1.”
[: Anyone sensitive to frame-rate issues is going to have an issue playing
this game and should probably go for the PC version provided one has the
specs to handle it.”
“If you’re alarmed about buying the PC game based on Bethesda’s
alarmingly high recommended specs, at least we have some good news
there. A 4GB graphics card doesn’t seem to be required at all for 1080p
gameplay, and we’ve run the game just fine on the mid-range GTX 760,
while even the entry-level enthusiast GTX 750 Ti offers console-style
frame-rates at 1080p on max settings.
NOOO WE CANT DO 1080P 60 FPS ON A 149$ GPU WHILE THE NEXT GEN CONSOLES CAN DO 30 FPS STABLE ON SUP 1080P
#Pcmasteraceproblems
Well, where i alive (Brazil) Xbox One or PS4 is 4.000 Reais (around U$1,500), with 4.000 Reais i can get a I5 4460 + 8Gb Ram + SSD(for SO and some games) + Motherboard + PSU of 650W and an GTX 970 and will run all games without problems on 1080p with 60 fps+, if you considering the games here is around 100~200 Reais each game, with 100~200 Reais i buy 2~3 Games on Steam.
I’m sorry if my english is bad, i’m learning a bit now ^^
So ture.
And it turned out to be a load of BS. Just more gullible, sad, delusional, ignorant, deranged fanboy waste.
Nope they are still true but feel free to damage control for sony you derranged fanboy waste of space.
LOL Damage controling and you aren’t even paid.
Gullible, sad, delusional, ignorant and deranged
i post him a ling from mental help dot GOV every time he spams me.
This entire article turned out to be complete bullshit posted to the sick, blind mustard subreddit insane asylum. Good job showing how gullible and stupid fanboys are.
Keep telling yourself that Derp. Doesn’t make it a lie when it’s all completely true.
They better not f**k up Far Cry 4, god damnit!
Nearly identical to fc3 if ubi kiev messes this one up it wil be proven that the only reason fc3 run as well as it did was ubisoft massive.
I am dissapointed nothing there says anything about sony.
Anyway consoles have been ruining pc franchises and holding pc back since….ever. We all know that but what we didnt believe is that there are infact politics behind the crapification of the pc version.
“The Game Architect said that they try to re-use code as much as possible.”
YOU DONT SAY? I was reading a article on fc4, they got some guy doing assasination missions, some other guy doing the convoy missions…and they pretty much copy paste the same scripts all over their games.
Example assasin creeed side mission.
Use eagle view, locate the target stab him
Watchdogs
use your phone locate the target meele him
Far cry 3-4
use yoru camera locate the target stab him
The convoy missionsfrom watchdogs are infact on fc4.
The qtes and hunting from fc3 were re-used on AC3.
The cash run in watchdogs is basicly flag collection from ac.
All games have towers that reveal the map.
Thank god the PCMR brother was studying game design and they asked someone from ubi those questions directly.
“You can also ask what is the preferred platform to develop for.”
“PC, because they have to use specific languages and debuggers for each console and then validate the game with the constructor.”
and that comes from ubisoft. Imagine what other studios think.
Like we already did not know that. Why else would a developer put a
30fps frame limiter on PC when they can easily reach 1080p/60fps on a
decent gaming PC these days. 30fps on PC feels slow and unresponsive
because of the fast camera movement with the mouse, 60fps is the bare
minimum needed to make the game start feeling smooth.
BUT DUDE ITS MORE CINEMATIC.
Anyway if you check benchmarks it says on the bottom
“More is better”
i guess we should change that to
“less is more cinematic”
You nailed something I’ve been saying for a while – the faster camera/look speed on PC, due to the mouse, makes the framerate much more noticeable.
This is true, but even with a gamepad its still annoying for people that are used to 60fps+.
Not surprised. BOTH consoles are PoS hardware. Xbox fans know it and that’s why they’re not buying it in droves, whereas the $0N¥ paupers are completely brainwashed by make.belief and think their peasant box is a gift from god, when it’s almost as bad as the Xbox One.
tell me about it machinma keeps saying they got tired reading comments on how fanboys think ps4 is amazing.
Look the cpu is a bottleneck sucker punch admited it.
Yep, it’s AMD, they haven’t been good on the CPU front since the Athlon XP days. It sucks for AMD but it’s true and those console makers should have known that. They purposefully made the boxes cheap so they could rake in the money on them when in past generations they made a loss on the hardware and vast profit on the software.
i bet thats why unity is 900p. They were making the game for 4 years on superior hardware.
You should have a laugh at the performance analysis of “The Evil Within” on Eurogamer. It’s a disaster on both consoles and still the Sony fanboys are commenting that it’s not bad on the PS4 and it’s not Sony’s fault and the devs should do better. UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLE how brainwashed they are.
We all knew the Watch Dogs debacle, I’m sure you’re right on that part.
i pretty much figured evil within will run bad on consoles after seeing pewdiepie playing it on a ps4 (shut up i wanted to see the gameplay) it run bad, quite bad.
“we’re left with a 1920×768 resolution on PlayStation 4 and a meagre
1600×640 on Xbox One. In effect, it’s the now-familiar 1080p vs 900p
set-up here, but the intrusive borders serve to cut-down actual
rendering resolution significantly. Only 71 per cent of the screen’s
real estate is actually used for gameplay – and the aspect ratio
utilised is actually a higher 2.5:1 rather than the ‘cinematic’ 2.35:1.”
AHAHHAHAHHA
Where is your 1080p?
But hey the order is 1080p because the intelligent people at kotaku say so.
“On the PC side, there is a console command that enables players to
remove the bars but, at the time of writing, this only serves to crop
the left and right of the screen producing an even more zoomed-in image.
The field of view is already very narrow as it is, so this makes the
game nearly unplayable. Of course, let’s not forget that Mikami and crew
took this very same approach back in 2005 with Resident Evil 4 which
used a 16:9 aspect ratio within a 4:3 resolution, effectively operating
at 640×360 but in that case, the game used a much wider field of view
that made it feel less cramped.”
Ok can we stop using that black lines bs now?
“Neither version manages to run consistently and the narrow field of view
combined with jittery camera motion only serve to exacerbate the issue.
The closest analogue would have to be the original console release of
Resident Evil 6, where the camera feels much too close to the player
while the frame-rate regularly dips below 30fps.”
“After a day of initial work, we’re able to reveal some preliminary findings on the console versions of Tango Gameworks’ The Evil Within. It’s a curious title in many ways – possessing a distinct Japanese flair, yet built around a distinctly American rendering engine: id Tech 5. Designed from the ground up for hard-wired 60fps gameplay, the implementation of id software’s technology intrigues still further bearing in mind that The Evil Within targets a locked 30fps update – a state of affairs that extends to the
default setup of the PC version. We’re still looking at the console and computer builds, but initial results throw up some interesting
discussion points.
Resolution is the first order of business: the
developer opts for an extra-wide aspect ratio, presumably in order to
reduce the games’ rendering load – though HUD elements are displayed in
this region. Based on what’s rendered inside the letterbox, however,
we’re left with a 1920×768 resolution on PlayStation 4 and a meagre
1600×640 on Xbox One. In effect, it’s the now-familiar 1080p vs 900p
set-up here, but the intrusive borders serve to cut-down actual
rendering resolution significantly. Only 71 per cent of the screen’s
real estate is actually used for gameplay – and the aspect ratio
utilised is actually a higher 2.5:1 rather than the ‘cinematic’ 2.35:1. ”
” the main concern here is frame-rate – and first impressions are not
great. The very first scene in which the player is given control is an
appropriately foreboding moment, not just in terms of horror but also
performance. Neither version manages to run consistently and the narrow
field of view combined with jittery camera motion only serve to
exacerbate the issue. The closest analogue would have to be the original
console release of Resident Evil 6, where the camera feels much too
close to the player while the frame-rate regularly dips below 30fps.
How
far does it go? Unfortunately nearly every major sequence, particularly
outdoors, is fraught with dips that interrupt the action, resulting in a
jarring, jerky experience. Scenes not unlike Resident Evil 4’s seminal
village sequence see dips into the low 20s. The tight camera work and
unsteady frame-rate lead to some incredibly off-putting moments.
Thankfully, when the game does return to more enclosed tunnels the
frame-rate tends to jump back to a more steady 30fps but, more often
than not, the experience feels choppy and inconsistent.”
My pc doesnt run at 60 fps at all times on evil within
PC MASTER RACE PROBLEMS
“Anyone sensitive to frame-rate issues is going to have an issue playing
this game and should probably go for the PC version provided one has the
specs to handle it.”
“If you’re alarmed about buying the PC game based on Bethesda’s
alarmingly high recommended specs, at least we have some good news
there. A 4GB graphics card doesn’t seem to be required at all for 1080p
gameplay, and we’ve run the game just fine on the mid-range GTX 760,
while even the entry-level enthusiast GTX 750 Ti offers console-style
frame-rates at 1080p on max settings. As for hitting a consistent 60fps –
well, it’s here that the unoptimised nature of the PC port becomes
apparent”
NOOOO A 149$ GPU RUNS THE GAME MAXED OUT AT 1080P BUT DOESNT MAINTAIN 60 FPS
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AMD has vastly superior CPUs at hand and they’re not exactly pricey either. MS and Sony knowingly settled for less. Don’t blame a hardware manufacturer for what other companies buy from them.
AMD have gambled with CPU multi-threading performance over single-thread performance hoping devs will use it more. FX CPUs are very powerful for their price just not with single-thread and the AMD APUs destroy the Intel IGPs in gaming. Effectively you’re paying a premium for single-threaded performance with Intel CPUs and paying even more for their IGP performance to even come close to AMD’s APUs.
I think after all AMD were right, NVIDIA couldn’t deliver what AMD delivered because both can’t do near the performance and cost of an AMD APU.
Actually, a lot of former “Xbox fans” have been buying Sony consoles this generation. It’s not like they are so enlightened that they sat out, they just switched sides.
I bet Derp and You Are Flat Out Wrong are former xbots trying to contain their buyers remorse on the failstation 4.
you are flat out wrong IS a xbot he did say he own a x360 last gen and not a ps3. YET he goes around trashing xbone and praising ps4.
Those people are mental.
Sony & Microsoft on their way to industry monopolization!
Sony monopolize? with 3rd party APU / Linux and openGL?
and still loosing money, year after year :))
bunkrupt already damn it
This is Microsoft looking after PC gamers like they promised is it? F’ers.
Hey at least MS is now finally making DX12 and releases something for the PC from time to time, like Halo: Spartan Strike. Sony does NOTHING!
PlanetSide 2, EverQuest, DC Universe etc are nothing? I’d rather have PlanetSide 2 than some half-arsed mobile game.
Hoooolly sh…
We’ve been saying it for years but finally we’ve been vindicated.
And? the peasants are gonna continue being coporate slaves and not agree to the facts.
And at least now there’s a s#!tstorm. You can be as pessimistic as you want, but sometimes things do change. It is good that this has finally come out, even if nothing should come from it, at least we know for certain now what we’ve known all along and nobody can deny it anymore.
Deny it? Nah just ignore it, like the long list on why pc gaming is better, the peasants will say “i dont care about any of those things”
….
Well, when they are fighting against each other, they seem to suddenly care a lot about those things. Those things being frame rate and resolution. They do care, they are just intimidated by PC gaming quality and don’t want to give an inch. But they know and they care, you can be damn sure about that. It’s just that they don’t want to admit it.
They also cared about used games and always online, enough that they made such a big s#!tstorm that Microsoft decided to flipflop on their policies. That was a big moral victory for consumers.
As for that long list, there’s also a list for why console gaming is better and a few things on there are valid if you are a lazy b@st@rd and most console gamers are apparently lazy b@st@rds and proud of it. The fact of the matter is that they want couchbound gamepad gaming on a machine with an OS designed around just gaming.
Oh, will you look at that, sounds like I just described the upcoming Steam Machines. The things seem pointless to a PC gamer but that is because they cater to console gamers, giving them PCs that fit their needs and demands, no matter how ludicrous and childish they are.
That combined with a growing disillusionment concerning consoles and their performance, as well as the practices of their manufacturers, could lead to really good things for the market and Lord Gaben. Think of him and Steam what you will but the man just might save not only PC gaming but gaming altogether.
dude you are a pc ellitst, console gamers dont care about resollutions and framerate.
Seriously jut look at the internet.
/sarcasm
when they fight eachother on which console has the best graphics, its ok
When we say pc has the best grpahics, we are graphics hoes.
When we have more indie exlsuvies, indies suck, when they have more indie exlusives than the other platform indies are awesome.
Also titanfall sucks because its not on ps4.
Fanboy 101.
Also yeah they are infact lazy as h3ll. But i do like the argument “on console everything just works no hussle”
Yeah its not like ps4 doesnt have error screen in gmaes and you have to update firmwire all the time.
They think we are fanboys about steambox because its a “console” so thats ironic.
No steambox is what it sounds like a steambox. Consoles have a fixed price cannot be upgraded, no backwards compability, mp fees you cant mod games or use mouse and keyboard and locked framerates, steambox does not.
they should force ubisoft to use consoles HW properly (GPGPU) not to screw already unoptimized PC ports.
Microsoft and Sony should also go to NVidia to make them stop putting special effects into ubisoft games, because regardless FPS the quality will be better on PC.
of crouse they are. hey look we can’t match PC, so lets bring down PC to our level. it’s like you see your classmate with higher scores and trying to drug/poison him/her instead of training. dead rising 3 and evil within and more future titles
consoles, the Gillooly’s of gaming.
trash porting aside those games are good.
well even if that wasn’t the case consoles are still damaging the industry in the long run but this shows how desperate they are. they don’t have to worry though if they can survive 1-2 years, with their famous exclusives(Halo/Uncharted) they can deceive the young and unexperienced gamers again and most reviewers will praise them for they own agenda.
don’t get me wrong those exclusives are great but they are still limited by their consoles not just graphics-wise and at the end of the day all exclusives are promoting diversion among gamers.
Is there any truth in this? It’s shameful Microsoft & Sony kept wanting to kill off PC gaming.
It wouldn’t be so ridiculous if the games ran at 30 fps at console settings. But no, they expect us to pay hundreds of dollars to upgrade our PCs to levels far above consoles just to play at their level? Lol.
“But our eyes can’t see past 24 fps anyway” and winked at me”
dude, something is wrong with your eyes. go see a doctor…
I saw this late last night and it’s believable, the whole Sony and Microsoft aren’t afraid of PC gaming seems to be false with this
I knew it wasn’t just Sony. Microsoft is just as dirty and doesn’t give a $H!T about PC other than to cripple it in order to sell more Xbones.
Yes, BOTH are guilty of this.
Like I need one more reason to not buy Ubisoft games lmao.
just use the goddam note
Ok… people… this is the news that everyone are talking about. And for the industry good… we need a change already. Devs and console makers always doing the same sh*t. You cant push the industry to 4k with the console power… they are garbage.
and i think that nvidia, amd, and intel should make something about it. They have a job cuz we are buying their stuff… they cant keep ignoring this sh*t…
i dont get it how this thread hasn’t got to 1k comments yet? it’s only about PC so no one cares right? how can someone buy console after this , lol i dont even…..
Finally read the whole thing, it would be nice to have audio or at least a true transcript that is verbatim. It would also be nice to get the name of the guy doing the presentation so that the statements can be verified.
I don’t doubt any of what is being alleged but it seems at times a bit convenient how freely information that is damaging to Ubisoft is given away. I hope somebody follows up on this and makes sure it’s all real.
It’s in French apparently.
Pathetic . Just pathetic .
i start to feel bad for ubisoft right now , they’re just in so much sh*t you wouldn’t want anyone being in xD still , they deserved most of it but damn
8th gen announced, steam 70million active users.
8th gen arrived, steam 100million active users.
MS & Sony are s***ting their pants and do everything against this big threat which they underestimated it. afterall they are the ones who have to pay the price by bleeding more money and fight against something that can’t be killed.
Sony and MS, bstrds. That’s why I got disappointed in gaming in the last few years. Boolsheet is everywhere.
ECOLA is EBOLA #dontbuyubisoftgames #rememberwatchdogs
“No problem guys, the PS4 run games at 1080 and 60 FPS”
Killzone running at 30 FPS on E3
no thumb up?
The dots weren’t meant to be posted. My first post didn’t pass the profanity filter. I posted it again and edited the old post as dots to avoid double posting.
Microsoft cares so much abotu PC gaming and its support, it’s simply mindblowing. Makes me wish i pirated Windows 7.. bastards and their crappy 30 fps console. If the difference is so huge now, imagine how much better the PC games will look in 2 years. Poor consoles, not even the slightly better PS4 will put much of a fight.
Christ. PC’s are like 10x more powerful than consoles but you wouldn’t know it because of crap like this.
Well, Star Citizen won’t have this problem, at least.
Just this single corridor will tax my computer.
Games designed with only PC in mind certainly need to happen more often in the future.
To Ubisoft it’s all about the $$$$ and that’s exactly what MS is providing! #ParityGate
i don’t see how ubisoft is to blame, they need to get their games sold and on those platforms so they have to compromise where they don’t want to. But they need to do it to please microsoft and sony whose consoles were born outdated and they will continue to drag down gaming for the next 6-7 years.
1. The version I saw on PC of AC5 was amazing. This will not be amazing….
2. I found out this information last night and spent 4 plus hours spreading the information like a Internet troll
3. Remember people telling me my conspiracy theory about big companies paying off dev’s was BS… Well hope this is proof…This crap has been going on since the 8-bit console era.
4. PC gamer’s should be able to trust M$. Nvidia & AMD need to get Gabe on the ball and Pump out Steam OS and convince REAL PC DEVELOPER’S who are not be BOUGHT OUT to develop games on OpenGL/Mantle and stay away from anything related to M$
5. This really makes me look like a D Bag I been hyping Ubisoft over gameplay just for them to pull this BS. So far my geforce.com post only has had 63 views.. And Nvidia has not responded back to me as well when asking them if it’s true that they need to leave M$ and anything to do with DX.
6, If you have the time spread the news around. Ign, gametrailers, dso, linus, Logan, all the big youtube channels, heck anything that you can put text on!
lol @ escapist people are demanding proof like they are gonna get any proof on silver plate and even then they will deny it while others are twisting it. i don’t care if this is true or not but if it was against PC they probably never demanded a proof and took it for granted. hilarious even without all of these we all know what PC is capable of and yet it is not used to it’s full potential because of consoles.
If this is true, someone’s gonna loose his job. 🙁
this is called, fascism
What a crock!!
Never trust,never buy this kind of games.
There are lot of lies lies lies.
“Next-gen” its a lie,the gaming industry make a step back with this “30fps lock”.
The war begin and they will loose with this nonsense on PC platform.
Yeah man this is exactly why I built a monster PC!!!! Just so I could brag about my games squawking along at 30FPS!!!!!!
YOU PIECE OF S**T MICROLO$T….. “M$ is making us go for 30FPS on PC too…..”
I just love when I have to manually edit the script of my games just to get them to run “AS THEY SHOULD HAVE!!!” at launch……
Goddamn anger sharks so early in the morning……
Sony and their community are cancer to gaming. Poor man’s PoS devices, just look at the PlayStation TV.
http://oi61.tinypic.com/ejbebs.jpg
wow just wow
And it turned out to be a load of BS. Just more gullible, sad, ignorant, blind, deranged fanboy waste believing whatever fits their delusions.
Keep on lying derp. It doesn’t help your reputation of being a sad sack shill.
F’ you MS and Sony. PC MASTER RACE!
This is baseless and without any concrete source, you should have known better to just publish this as news.
Sony is cancer to the gaming industry.
sony and microsoft don’t want games to be superior on PC and have the PC stealing customers from buying their sh**ty consoles
Hmm lets hope Steam and Nvidia sticks up for the PC world. What’s the point of upgrading if my 2012 PC with a used r9 290 (not the x) maxes everything out, only a couple games frame drop to 40’s, most stay right at 60 with vsync enabled. Thank god UDK4 and CryEngine are so cheap and easy to use, We should start seeing some strong Indie titles in the next few years that will push the limits of the PC